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i miss award winning offer is available worldwide for every language level. reading gentleman has told me to go the so how was the post that the home of the gym and musical procession establishment turned over knowledge into not secure that rate. the 4th thing, that sort of thing. they gave us 1st class performances that are still admired today.
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we're all, bob gone down the and now she gets one madhouse, viviana sitting room. it's part of the german culture. jewish prison is performing most thoughts and schumann and beethoven. so the german got the nazis, the nazis succeeded in destroying many things. that music you can't destroy the fact of what you can try that it's impossible news the
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. ready the just pushed on you to alaska and the judge agreed and or last loan, specializing because it's not someone's not valid conversion. come off our scripts . yeah, we haven't got much. we suddenly heard an announcement, an english of english discussions. you
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know, i can't remember exactly how it went, but it said we were supposed to stay where we were is in, when the british came, they had no idea what they would find till they thought they were liberating a prison camera. but this was an to prison account. it was a pit of corpse. it's any lice and go back laughlin business. the car from look longer to time is in the end of those bus lava 5 mentions. your information is for mentions rosetta from boy candice miss. because from my advice, i could pop vasta 5 off of on the, on the vesta dimensions and federal system or the fruit is not gonna come out in from the stall needs to be submitted. if you're free or monitored by search page. but for some, it was too late to observe. that's how it was. it was indescribable. suddenly, here's where i live. it's. yeah, i have
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a detailed message that you probably had dental based description of beth and 5 and from both of those and was unimaginable on those. i missed just over an a cut of ground lay dead and dying. people could not see you, which was which, except perhaps by a convulsive movement or the last quiver of aside from a living skeleton too weak to move. this dan bills was the most horrible of my life. very kind come the phi stuff. eventual commission have the funds for reason all she was 5. you have them start. think of right. give us give us more. laurie is this kind of a kind of one kind of media come into. it gives us an idea to remind those wrist as a video of my sister in talking to a british soldier and as another of 3 goods and walking back to the canada flag.
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it's too low for me on each business that to me the spectrum, the image is managed by stuff at kaiser and, and have been pretty efficient. i think you have a frontier edition takes the time that you've already gone to college is right after live organizational not make is there a number? i was sitting somewhere and someone told me there was a jeep or something from the bbc. they want to interview people. and that i should go over that normally in the to, to come up with my 1st encounter with a microphone regarding michael thomas smarter to ask about the vouch with saddle. i should say actually will continue to use and published on the desk of air conditioning problems with best buy, showing up on the pen when dimensions names and score the bronx is highly recommended for barker that's a lot of them. almost equinox is best for findings and i'm with the cup and of
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course box. the thing for them was e commerce or some juniors back in my mind of chatter safe my grandmother's life. so that was always somehow in the atmosphere of the family story. the history on distractions and teams experiences for i am of died in us this it was just up to piece that was called and yet the thing with the youngest button
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to exit the off to the 2nd load, more german conduct a vill him for things as career was also on the brink of ruined the victorious path . i saw him as hitler's pet, maestro, he was banned from performing and in 1946 was brought before the knots vacation tribunal followed thing that faced uncomfortable questions. once he a nazi, did he bet any guilt? why hadn't he left german the in 1947, the tribunal classified for things as a follow, a category that carried no penalty. he soon began performing again with the balance and demonic. and his return to the stage was a great success the
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or the home for things i was born in berlin in 1896. his musical career took off at an
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early age of 20. he was already conducting symphony orchestras. this is so this is so powerful and i say this as someone in the same profession like a how to keep it doesn't get better than that. you think sometimes i think if someone can conduct like that, then maybe i should just pack up and quit. that's not really a nice feeling in listening to 4th thing that elicits everything from profound exhilaration to the sense of being completely insignificant and powerless. a guns flying with must close to the status on this test. i do believe something emanated from him. something extraordinary is on the list that transcended the music, something deeply human accessed. and then when he stepped on to the stage,
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you had this sudden sense of ratcliffe on site and then and truly inhabited to separate. well that's the bonds use. it's 5 as the use of the genius of the musician booking is part of the german people, and he has no particular sympathy for the victims on the country. the only person or people that the 4th thank left field. cindy p t for is full. he says the occupied germans the way we are suffering no under under, under the occupation of foreign on these. the way they will make me suffer. the in the early 19 thirty's, germany was conceded, the land of music with
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a rich tapestry of sounds like music, jazz, classical music, i'm contemporary compositions were all very popular. this musical diversity ended when the national socialists came to power in january 1933. the new life chancellor adulthood, the to control of parliament within weeks under pointed himself, the few of them. and he also set the tone for the nation's music, the cause it clears the despite the ring from the printer one, i'm just but i can use this commute to be just jump in this thing into the 1st spot to be free to go the 5 side me to the bottom, the nazis seized power in 1933, they immediately launched a series of what have become known as wild purchase excitement, dust,
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few to all of gwinnett because of those purges and because of the intense and frequent violence on the streets and even in concert halls, many people in the music profession left germany at this very early stage as was the tires, also to escape persecution for less than half, not even for for 5 on the floor ones and the minister of public, enlightenment and propaganda. joseph governors was responsible for music and culture in the nazi state. soon off of the nazis came to pass, established the rice chamber of counts so which included the rice chamber of music membership was compulsory for anyone in the field. and so these institutions allowed doubles to control german count from life and the allocated posts and titles to his office of choice stuck in the amount of time and attendance to the president. and then come on to come to the top, cuz that's,
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that's the name of the steps. if you guys go to a comment is i'm you're, i was the time of residence and then i moved to don't throw this out to the house, to mid threes on the weather. the all got that's and onwards he still has to stop. stop. don't talk to them 1st thing last as vice president of the right chamber music, fill him for the thing that was done from an i'm political office to a political figure. he also received the honorary title of pressing state counsellor for things that was so important to the nazis that they put him on the list of got to pick canada to office that were gifted by gold. the
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guide testing daughtry's use. it was considered the most german form of our tests to offset, spoke directly from the racial song because it was so important. the state in bass did a great deal of money and when they believed the music shapes the racial, some of the people didn't just have an educational quality shake. the racial essence of the nation in michigan were built in sort of that awesome package. the, the nazis who would say, we are a cultural nation, we are a cultural people, you couldn't possibly suspect that way of doing something that was on cultural.
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this is our justification. we are a nation of culture and culture is i'll cover the, the seats, you know? so he was striving for global recognitions, brightness and national pride. when music became so intertwined with race, everything that derived from a foreign rights to be eliminated. o, succeeding in the job and then it's just the dodson and the died shipments and types of sleep and the diabetes, the goods and the diets and was equal done. induction and food we all spoke about.
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the item is gave a kind of move, is guide you to of, to, to go to a label to design. you can buy them to be those items would be the live and that's a lot of that kind of thing. and then since you know, the talking yeah, they're going to have you ever conduct glen glen? go said we can spectacularly replace these jewish musicians. we don't need them. most of them. i believe they did even in germany. yeah, it's java. my boss is taught staples of so the endorsement, the rest of the around 300 kilometers east of the rise capital building. today the city is called phelps wife and belongs to poland. anita alaska was born here to a german jewish family in july. 1925
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is cool. most of the guns i can know from what was it this time? a fairly ordinary family. lizzie, and so, so just let us know model it's music was just normal. which item before my these with the days before we go have televisions, we play music at home and my mother was also a musician. so there was always music just keeps you in bed. for me, these though there's a photo of me sitting on the ground with a little brim undercoat, and sheet music in front of me, and i'm pretending to place a trailer to village. i'll be sure to be there. or my parents probably said, i think the child wants to play the child. so they bought me a very small one, lived in the auto he says to offset, and this was my 1st teacher. but then things became difficult and deadlock, some become as i grew older, i still wanted to play their childhood. but so and no cello teachers left and breast allow who were willing to teach a jewish child, chevrolet of them,
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and bus or the. and you're just going to the what a renter of what's left recently. and i went to the house to where the house was, walked around the city to imagine the space sooner to the help and most book to the and the university. do you think this was a really culture, direct german jewish family, they're unsafe, they was safe until suddenly comedies 00. and that's my, me is not the leading district that was i was sent about and whether we still have jewish ciello teacher who would teach me, that's what i thought that was shortly before the 9th of november. so i was invalid . and at the time, when i had showed her lessons with legal costs for 6 months, luckily dunc gigi's ex mono. if it gave me something i could do on who just about the menus, how did you and then came crystal and left the night of broken glass,
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or did you coast all enough to? and my mother called and said, i should come home straight away. the house, at that moment, everything changed. we realized there was no place for us. but unfortunately, it was too late to suspect the meet at this tech showed them on from what i was right. but for you guys, let me sort of stuff to somebody that has to be god. oh,
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the fascination of which makes it begins with that with the waves that he conducted the way to communicate with musicians to the lazy communication with the lands. and uh, there was nothing like you took the time, but every major conductor since suddenly every measure conduct a live today has had to absorb something. the 1st thing in order to achieve that, they wanted to ask me, success is long as oh, absolutely. it sounded so completely spontaneous and his freedom with 10 times radiated such amazing simplicity of calls you had to submit yourself to his well, is there any resign cool goals and just about to go by the trays up and down there because he's conducting is often very your last statement with a great sense of natural,
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you have the sense that he was composing the music while conducting a company is there and as doing it as we got the money. and there was no single person who could have been more of an embodiment of german music if you want to call it that. then foot thing that he was the head of germany's most important orchestras, the berlin philharmonic and the shots cabella. and he performed his court rep, a tour there in a way that was ground breaking and influential time can read about why is it, does it? yeah. or do you beat and find the impact on the fire? was something quite different about it for you. darker, not as luminous, and yet very powerful without what you know, while megabyte it is, it had the force of conviction, savings divided the
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s. we talked about gm and mean, think of something that might have been something and it's a bit too much about it. because it was important to him and so was staying in gemini bly. let's get things starting from clinton on. that's just the mysteries or the person she come is a virtual peek. i just finished brian titus from the doctor inspection or the cost on it feels that came from a family way. conversation revolved around things of great beauty salon. they talked about michelangelo who he was extremely knowledgeable about. olsby is about to but ok and only on the screen when it came to politics. well,
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yeah, the just about us be what sort of difference. unfortunately, one thing that i was convinced that politics and art, or 2 entirely separate entities, windows and that because music embodies internal values in a sense and transcends day to day politics on, it was obvious that music had to be free of political influence. and does he disobedience of guys that most from pretty design for us, not propaganda minister gerbils salt under control, even in the offs. this made the berlin philharmonic orchestra all the more important to him in 1933, the privately run ensemble wasn't financial difficulty. goes nationalized for the on it and turned it into the rise orchestra, saving the jobs of the musicians. but there were full jewish musicians among them,
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including concept mazda, she mountain gold panel is this button fi affair, and you off the kind of knows that in these 4 cases, the musicians were subjected to increasing pressure, in order for their contracts were simply not extended. so to see that they were all pushed down to the orchestra by 1935 at the latest orchestra and also visit home for bring them back to the musicians. but the pressure from the regime was too great. she moaned gold bag and the other jewish musicians of the balance and the monica left germany to escape the nazi dictatorship dom bond, but on bond. but um, but the bond that i'm just being glad, i guess i was excited to be mandated by the
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and 1934 foot thing that stood up for compose a pound increment facility mathis demo that he planned to perform with above and for the monic. what followed was a power struggle with gerbils before base. the concept denazi's found tend to me. it's modern style of music, unacceptable. unfortunately, the low who had made these ones stand the gates, the regime on this thing, on this one on this item. and the value for the volume program never had another confrontation with the regime. they simply stared him down and he was too afraid for his position that i am for his personal interest ever again to stand up the good, those left alone to the under pressure from the nazis. 4th thing that came to a decision is step down as leader of the button for them on a, conduct a at the stage opera, and vice president of the rice chamber of music,
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the doubles manipulates, in an almost felt stim fashion. and the relationship between fortunately the doubles is very mushy. the false immunization tree that's out here is give you the font, is the state that and participated in his own way through music was the kind of the by spring 1935 food. him. 4th thing though, was back on stage, conducting the balance for the money. he was rehabilitated. and once again celebrated by audiences and high ranking nazis the and so he makes, he's packed with the devil. this is the deal. he stays in germany. he doesn't
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make waves. he conducts for the nazis, whatever they want him to conduct, he conducts in front of a huge swastika, he is morally degenerate. the the the, when the nazis came to power in 1933, germany had around 65000000 inhabitants. about half a 1000000 of home with german jews, a so called non ariens. they were dismissed from the workforce. almost old german
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jewish musicians lost the jobs. the phoenix had given very few people have the financial means to emigrate them. there was a hugely expensive undertaking by a few investments, and many people also identified with germany on the dodge land. the was where they lived and worked many for decades, and they identified very strongly with that advocacy. i've talked to him and he didn't even see it on the in 1933 unemployed jewish office to establish the control button don't show you the cultural association of german jews. it was a kind of self help organization that enabled jewish musicians to continue performing with the own orchestra's and on samples. alongside berlin, munich was the hub of this cultural life, a dissenter,
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sonton. these include tobin as best as the interesting thing about these cultural associations was that for a long time, some form of jewish cultural life continued to exist in nazi germany. and of course, that was kept entirely separate and under the firm control of the nazis or but it did make it possible for jews to perform works that were drawn from the german musical tradition, while at the same time renegotiating their jewish identity. so i just wanted to see about your interest in the test or find the defendants as you want to know each other. and this is still where the main shopping area is today. knowing how is that in causing this process to act here and honest with and on this side street until 1938. that's where the main synagogue was, where major symphony concerts took place. and the concept of stuff from the in that we met about an ad so helped and right by the main synagogue. there were at least 2 jewish music shops. where until
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the mid 1930 is you could still buy recordings by jewish artist hoffman content with them and one part glasses and just a few streets further onto manadis processed on you'd find the police reports. yeah . which hosted smaller concerts for the jewish cultural association to go to the instructor for the e. give, with us you own, in the deep orientation students, johnson honest. until 1942. it's known that science, it's the guns for she'd munch. and each one was different. some people who snatched from the street in, okay, sounds haven't received and left at telling them to report somewhere within 24 hours that only my parents, not me, your renata, is an initiative or not to. and of course, we wanted to go without parents represented in retrospect to come. i think i know
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what my father did. he told us he'd go to the gustavo and ask for the mission chase . we lived nearby window allowed. and as far as looking back, i suspect that my father went out side, walked around the block a time or 2 and returned to the book, and then simply told us they didn't give us permission to go with some devices involved. i guess i can still hear his wise words. he said one day when we are going you will join us soon enough and we survived and they didn't. that's how it was. too about us. yeah. after the deportation of the parents need to alaska, and her sister renata was sent to a jewish wolf and each in press, well, they were just forced labor. as in a paper factory. it was here that they help french prisoners of war to escape with forged documents. they were discovered and put on trial,
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but i sure can. i'm cortez criminals was sent to trial juice will not. it is. so we will actually lucky to be in prison for adoption. yeah. and yeah. and giving no sent straight to auschwitz. now she's because she to in so yes, what is the phone this i'm just about finished. best of all this is that i have john soaks house is on the top down to saint paul says. now and this has gone back to model is 5 and that's for stocks to going to touch one, florida. i wish this. do you think this about the prisons where the crowd, boston, jews were taking up space, so they sent me to alphabets in your office, cuz she told me that i didn't have my full sentiments signed. i even wondered if i would have to make amends for that. when i returned to germany and managed off ends up to this and have it, the damage which the interest i'll shoot you tonight, then we use what? oh, sure it's meant we went there to be mad at us is of the yes you did was clear this
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was the end stations committed by others on this aspect. but everything always happens differently from what you expect. right. in the next, i arrived at our shipments at night. the next morning was the intake process. and we'll see you know, song that was very different. the way i arrived at auschwitz underway, old and re present as arrived at chicago on those huge transports. there was always a selection committee who decided who would go to the gas chamber and who wouldn't the was because of that, that gets guidance because i was bad that because the only about 10 of us criminals or to publish it. yeah. it's mission quotes, the speech, broaden game, getting our subscriptions and that ones i'm calling. have memos, cuz yet what, how does a new mountain and to view on dog is shot for it and is devonne feeling. this is what happened next time. prisoners carried out the intake process,
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and most of this guy look for is not asked me, what's your name larry? you from? do you know how long the war will last? we were testing base or try b not signed. but of course i didn't present some dollars and then she asked what i used to do, and i said, i played a shadow the must. a channel that should be on dusty should fantastic. she said there's an orchestra in the station. i was naked with a toothbrush that was a great kindness. she pushed the tooth brush in my hand and said, stay here and wait for the town. she fetched the orchestra director jose. he's making law for it to get a competitor. mice doesn't frontier a capella goal, and that's why the, i don't know is a wish. we have a guy stuff she was through. finally, she had a challenge for the orchestra. scott, the dean or janice richard died. ida arrive at just at the right moment. fantastic . we had this peculiar conversation. i was the nature of michaels,
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they asked me wherever and with whom i had studied. she said, i had to quarantine, but they'd come and get me suited to that. and that's how i drawing the orchestra. but we have a whole new study about up and so it was unique, authentic. com a hi, the mountain going, you replaced the problems that they gave to me in the i do think there's anything militant or aggressive about this new city. very good music. so i don't see wagner as the middle height in the music that he composes. he isn't, he is
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a composer. he's trying to create great click the plus the fussy and fascinating is that this music completely absorbs to furnish. and that's the precise thing. it's also been accused of those funny yeah. for the back, this was the you saw it and as music compared to co inside quite well with the like the only do you have national socialism, us with an adult papers worship evolve. that was a driving force behind the side and the cost, the which of the lock, not physician, is suggesting voice, have wagner was certainly aware of music, can express the state of mind of soul, but an actual opinion that something rather different. a line on which the
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house fond freight and the bavarian town, or by roy, was once the home of the shot fox. today it's a museum to recognize as long as both are composed of upfront and offer a political writing. as such as you determine the mozy jewelry in music. wagner published the text in 1851st under a suit and then again under his real name in 18. 69 shot bach nova. i'm slum. and on tuesday meet dusk, the interested cottage shut off, now was a raging anti semites to one with us. as the 13 was out in circles in germany, that was almost a matter of good manners. in them was he goes as, as once behind the say about jews and music history. so because it was an attempt to justify in historical times why jews are incapable of producing authentic off.
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as it looks as our guy that i did not use have no nation of that road, they can only imitate an impasse night, actual culture and language and not if use call to actually produce anything original, authentic this nice to attempt to she is, of course that's rubbish like, that's not true, but it's where a cultural and theoretical justification of anti semitism was born. and what to you later if you ask me to dance the real scandal and behind fog now? is this i dishes scandal on by of ok now. as a shop kind of, i have no particular connection to wagner. i've never going to buy roy, but i've tried, does he create as well a 100 times? it's fantastic music. the man was a genius. i mean the genius galleries. but he was alert, sent through this april. sure fine. he was an anti semite, but he didn't need to write down order of that poisoned gift of to find that his anti semitism went a step to find it's on them. obviously, which is most,
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it was like a breach in the wall. it was like, it was respectful society. it was culture and society. it was a composer. the highest form of german bus is being a composer. it was a german composer saying are 18 rights to be anti semitic. actually, it's quite a central, if you are a german supposed to features the, the rice moody target took place in may 1938 in just a little. it was a showcase of german music in national socialism. but the event was also intended to disparage what pati ideologists called degenerates music and audits of mozy.
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the. this was the title of a museum exhibition put together by hon. savannah siegler, the director of the national santa environment inspired by the degenerate as objects sufficient. he presented to examples of music that he considered repellent . the sky and the guns deciding so exactly was the general. it was a rather difficult task, and the general taught was all made by abstract artists. well, artists who distorted the human face, estimated because each sat is pretty high in the highest on solve what kinds of starch and constant things and how that works. so those are you to kind of must clint with sign it and as of now from kitson bus stop. and so what is degenerate music festival? so you could imagine a ton on music we think because he blinked the triad was dramatic. a natural gum on
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a tunnel music was jewish music, went out to another. music is, did you just pretend to me all right, out of the fundamental or the good to go to the i'm cho dusty. i'll do it on the do i gave them is the still won't go to another do and after or the principal. and she was listed on the do to give you a good log into when he was able to, she wouldn't honor change our truck jacks every see for those for the you just guys, being funny is still not. it was an abusive exhibition of replete with contradictions. not any jewish musicians were reviled non jewish ones with 2, such as the austrian catholic composer and chronic. and his jazz opera, johnny speeds of which is the main car. and it is a black man, a black jazz musician who seduces a white who inflict on and was considered rate a font as cost musicologist out abreast tuning is the next.
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but it's on the nazi gen which music exhibition is documented and annotated the material in a book of the businesses, the comma, the degenerates music, brush f, as in boy as a symbol of degeneracy of the general music. i have taken a blank, jazz musician and african american this music and betrayed him kind as repulsively as possible. please upstairs does bulging loops and earrings in welding, but also in his tal pants and the towns fuck, you can see the towns here and the big sacks events and saxophone on the finishing touches star of david, one to conduct one. this reflects the nazi belief that the jews had mazda minded, the infiltration of jazz music into germany, jazz music, this was res, makes any pot, exit all sorts, enter the nonce is phrase making was degenerate, and how submission across the mission ball for the nicest and often
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the goal is thought you want to be about 3. i'm for this. give, let's start is the speed of us. and if i ask who i'm good enough, 2030 dodge an automatic right. the spelling of the home ownership. okay. as the lights on some beautiful thing, the speed, the 9th, has informed me the model, which was cool on the fly to lucy's fun before you could board science concept. if not, if you can switch. i'm and birthday concerts for hitler. we're
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a fixture in the annual national socialist calendar kind of runs out on a few of us can board 2nd seal his birthday on april 20th was an important event. kyla and, and it became the custom that the night before they would hold a birthday concert. this is in the i'm for i'm and so be not just a board starts consent. golf in previous years goes to trying to in this foot thing left for the best and concepts. but he had excused himself on medical grounds in 1942 good. those tribes, he managed to co us foot things into performing with the balance of the money, the just have to kind on thomas and we can talk this ions have eaten before i knew what the occasion was. i wondered, is going on there. if you can just send some things happening,
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which is really quite fascinating, this noise, as you're practically forced to sit up and take notice after school today at a concert makes a huge impression on us. but i know it took place at a time of great on the ease and disquiet and stuff different, not the musical performances outstanding in any case. so i'm call it the concert at the millennium. so i can just send you a 1000 thoughts out the he's a man with a conscience who chooses to suppress his conscience. it was a propaganda event entirely to the taste of yoseph goods. and the mistress played along the
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dizzy spells that i must, the face he makes. when he shaking hands speaks volumes of both. it said that he wiped off his hands. afterwards, we stopped most of us as a so you do get a sense that something strange is taking place of would it be to be so sensitive, but he just told themselves, do what needs to be done? mazda cx, very deliberate and interpretation of beethoven that evening. that was more profound than maybe even he realized it was much easier than having every experience terms, conditions ourselves. we used to judge we 50 of the moral lines. it tells us of something use right to enroll until somebody is good or bad. we have to say, well, what would i have done in that situation or my motives?
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what are the benefits to me? what are the, what are, what are the detriments? i'm i under multiple threat. am i going to lose my life? if i don't conduct this concert face, it was best day. and if the answer is no, if you're not going to be thrown into concentration, kept because he talks about the mind conducting a field. she should, we had a bunch for me. she instruments several times in mandolin, most one good time. the quote is a china the event we will mess the address on. um, as soon as you can't imagine what it was like, it was an orchestra, so i can okay step. i don't ask me how she managed to make something out of it. that was acceptable. if we'd been so terrible that it was unbearable, that would have b and fast. yeah. but as we have ones are indigo,
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asian. 2 model is a, was in her own right. an extraordinary violinist, very successful, helped established a really successful career for himself. 19, twenties, 1913 europe. she also came from a very esteemed musical lineage to her father on old rosa. she had been the comfort, most of the vienna philharmonic he had found at the rose a quartet suitable for the niece of gustavo mode on the making sure that the orchestra was good. keeping this quality off was the best way
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that she could ensure the survival of the orchestra and its members. of course, we don't have any recordings of the orchestra, so it's difficult to know how they sounded, but probably less media. ok a and and less pull in quality than many of the other camp bands through the company the germans address to as phone. oh my god. oh, i was on the hood of we would but she was, oh yeah, i know she had to dignity that couldn't be acknowledged via the in the 19 searches. i'm a real say lead a small women's orchestra called divide some age on the v in these world. singles, she was deported to outfits, be a canal in 1943. as an experienced director, she had to specially arrange the pieces for the comes to orchestra. since the
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selection of musicians and instruments in the stomach nation come was always down to jobs. the different items controlled by the jewish people were sort of selective and prepared for being sent for germany. this territory what's called effect in laga. and in the can jargon is was also called canada canada because for europe and those days, canada was the land of plenty. the place of emigration deadlines of milk and honey canada was just here in this direction. the
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. ready the shows you guys are ferguson. imagine the situation when the deportations begin to. oh, so you have to leave your home in a day or 2 hours straight away but isn't for possible. what do you do? i do believe you're doing research on the east home. so what do you do? i'm choosing to use your voice on your best sheets issue, which you fact she or 3 best outfits. and the thing that is most dia, today is there was a habit on an instrument as an instrument because you can't find and you take your violin. if you play the flute, you take your flute and we'll chat as it would cost. so be back in now, and it became one of the wealthiest places in europe. i lose only the most valuable
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objects people couldn't part with pertaining to be. i can know a cello, a violin, it was all the i'd shown the guy who to alice, what for. ready the . ready the investment commander says, here's an objects commander's house motion. i must have searched and figured i don't stinks. convinced the hut and you mentioned kind of stance on below, overburdened zip side to pick a number of this big take me to give them the size dimension of form from list the in the morning
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after the morning go 10, they have to wrap their chairs and instruments and they are were climbing for this little squire, which is stressing next to the main entrance. and they started to play to march marchers which were well known they were maybe tabby, german music. 2 2 2 2 2 entails and design decisions, it's pretty much down to with the factories and the same thing in the evening. and the mom, the settlement, the, the idea was done. the number was to be correct. the same number of those who lived there. kemp has to be back in the evenings if somebody died during the work usually was just murderers. yeah, i think the work was unable to walk eh,
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her status because the prisoner was beaten. well, so because we divide the other prisoners at us this, that this 6 where it will be correct has been established by when that was over. we went back to the block and just devoured the sheet music we had to and the rest, the 12 because the account says on sunday. and so we set down somewhere in the content, various places and laid off for the amusement of the gods to use them on the present. screwed also here as they didn't do yet the same way or some it was an insult. ringback not, i've also read this is allowed others to dream themselves. i'm sure if that how if only for a few minutes, almost all americans and probably not nice to have it. ringback we're not visited our streets. i knew that i wanted to see block 12 with the music
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club course. i remembered from grandma's book that had block was near the room where the selections took place. and it was, as she's said, basically next to the fence. the wind and i spent some time minded that often that when you get the funds, which may definitely come in, i'm in different communities to start for funding and found. i have alex i as in an argument and he's in a stand on often on come on down to my uncles to kind of thoughts on that. i'm think what's currently using an older kid. that's how much cracked that's alpha when he gives one type pushed on. when this been, i'm coming is looking for the lighting i'm to game will decide and damage which one
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is all time. run this afternoon if i'm not i to up to be in the right skiing ice cream high from the moving system. come next on. so that's probably up to me and the major part which let's say to our right, left hand side as well. that was where they were sitting and they were practicing. and we may see the location of the building is it's still neighboring the can. that is also neighboring to the fence to the wire. and just behind the wire there was the unloading platform. so in fact, when they were practicing to it some people for on the platform,
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they could hear it then you'll see the it is rough or come. it was perfectly normal for someone higher wrong to come to block and demand to have something played for them because of order only for said i give you said dr. manually shakes disposition pro, showing the sized box to phone often becomes 2 blocks seen in auschwitz and dropped machines, experimenting, and much of it's difficult to get to the phone. besides, some of them experimented you might have mesh wrench into conflict. was really
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wanting, god of good can get some mention going inside of them. went out and took one done and it's put him in the from 1943 to 1945 use as many of the was an s s come jump to an oscar. it's big enough. he was responsible for the murder of tens of thousands of people. wasn't able to do to me. i wanted to hear humans to him. all right, so i paid it as fast as possible. i didn't look at the man, just get out a new location of those viable. i wrote about it later because it's interesting to note that these people, people like many of the, were not on educate to wouldn't get billed at north haven. can you repeat, such as i today, people ask me, how can you still play schuman go to lunch with is a split that city to yeah. how did you feel?
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yeah, i didn't feel and using the i guess out the i didn't completely lose my identity. they'd say get the challenge, not a tennis to put the tennis t i was the only ones very lucky on the dish of us or yeah, i conducted him by heart by 18 years of service. i was very friendly with last on fox, his grandson on the menu showed me on this go, which measure has brought to 10 to 15 years on. if you're gonna turn in all that,
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the fine roy host the box and the festival every year. enjoying the nazi era, it was a most important since we found wagner was out of helpless favorite composer. the split device is madison and ryan. she is always eminent with fondness. i don't think we should be permitted to separate his work from the history of its reception. from getting hacked and audiology guidance, that's what people trying to do. they say, well, yes, hipaa and all of that like that was terrible piece of good. but the music is divine team was it is good place. yeah, the music is defined, but so i was, i am convinced that you can and may only be a love of wagner and have a clear conscience. but if you're willing to confront that, all that aspect and truly grapple with it,
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all does he started to conform to you via does that mean to dean in the when and think, i mean 2 o'clock, i think that's what, as a chinese different dates often on have it kind of decided to stick with didn't so english kind of thing. would you mind once that's true? now once it goes to the doctor, you have to write that rico and wagner's daughter in law been afraid, wagner began directing the by roy festival in 1930. the in. you bite in the house, you can give me a buzz back know sheet and hit uh just go to long and well on the same page when it came to wagner and buy a white glove box and they became close friendly, 50 boxes. oh, so i see that as that's from but hitler also when to buy white because the vulcan
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is when like family to and just off the family. he never, i always try. it was his way of getting away from me doing. we're going to reach to best buy it and i do think it's important to acknowledge this particular speed, the human dimension guide by the terrible thing. is it a man who was basically a failed autism and phyllis triangle man was able to plunge the entire well into chaos. so you've gotten surveyed, it's causing nonsense. hitler might be closer to us today. then we can to believe to nea as was like 70 percent of the whiskey you'll get quotes was everything to him. you just spoke about it constantly doing you all's perfectly. he was also a knowledgeable talk there and with the value of the piece as well to know if i've
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got the holes getting found. and i used to tell me how he and his brother villans had to sit by this place right here. and listen to hitler often late in to the 92 of them just getting into all of this new food and log and stores. hitler's presence at the festival was also a political statement. i'm one that was understood international office like italian conductor arturo toscanini cancel their appearances. jewish office will no longer welcome for the others. what on the touch? y 19. 43 bill. him for the thing. the had conducted up the festival 6 times allowed to touch this young of when i talked to all figured out how to habit of going backstage off to our performance. which is unusual for a politician who to as much. but that's why he felt like an artist among optics,
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and he liked that. i'm not too sure i left the office with science it and on the field i had come and spoken to them and shaking that hands and sign them and so forth. but they were in shante, that's fine, you know, tracing device on one of these occasions. he ended up meeting foot thanks to him cuz i've got some reporting that have called the point where i intended to him. i knew that i went ahead and put the site in front of jeff. it just started something
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standing in 1914. the event in by roy became what the nazis now called the war festival. and wagner music became part of the war and propaganda machinery. can you straight back? no, boy, it was initially talking to originally. ok. you didn't save of cancelling defense to hold the cost of the war which they've done during the front was well that's why, but hitler didn't $15.00 as extreme. hitler was determined that by how it shows up as the grand foundation of the national socialist control project to. but this was a matter of propaganda. even though, by then he'd let himself, audrey ever attend speech back a couple years since the start of the war, the wagner festival was financed by the nazi organization strength through joint. there was also responsible for recreational programs for the value of the. this meant that the audience
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was almost exclusively soldiers live classical music was also performed in factories to maintain military monroe the item. and it was imbedded, maintenance feedback as steve kind of, as on the part of the for the and ask him i'm soft costs. so excited fund started and backed 1000 concepts stopped. so i'd love to have your input thing that you didn't get that fair enough motorcycle case though. you're here i'm, that's my studying. i flushed views on the because the, [000:00:00;00]
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the most he does most mostly fund comma. there might even be some of us clinging to i. what's important to understand is that this music serves the purpose of propaganda funds and not only the music itself, but the framework under which it took place to this market. there certainly were people in the audience who attended and listened, surely for the artistic enjoyment, despite the war and escape the grim reality of war time. however, briefly through musing will seek and be seen to be on the test on ultimately these performances suggested that music was simply another way to carry on much of that. so by just even if the world was collapsing around them, i intended, sir, do you have a list of what it is? cuz they not do
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the 2, an outside in the design makes different sites and getting document. i'm out the door to stop ceilings is to by the time it is full time and i invested in some of them to get the body based on the truck saying that starts that's close to elevate. scheduled phone numbers doesn't drive between us and starts a quarterly phone. i'm saying when that happens, once we've got this type of problem becomes assigned us even type as enough nonsense enough for you. how can i be that as late as 1940 for the funeral march, some of the go to the demo phone was still being recorded and then, and 1944, when all resources were supposedly going toward what the machine called
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a total war. i mean, obviously the state must have had a reason to want to go ahead with these recordings until almost the bitter end. some indian, i'm so frantic the we know that they were orchestra's in most of the main concentration camps at the hall, had its own orchestra's lux and house and both involved and of course, an outfits. there was not one but 5 orchestra's just in the main camp. complex,
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so we know that orchestra's was very much an integral part of camp. los van closet does show piece we with a show. if someone say the red cross came to make sure our shipments was truly just an ordinary camp, they didn't show them a gas chambers. they showed them. awesome because we look relatively decent though, isn't music. so it must all be fine. guns about the whole thing was a colossal deception. colorado reading the the
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the to this and start with a so called model ghetto model. cam it's, it's a smooth fortress town outside of prague and was established by the nazis really to demonstrate to the world what a fantastic last use with living under nazi internment denazi's and knowledge, and very fully fledged musical life to develop in the camp and very famous me, so it was cultural activities and musical activities formed the basis for a large part of the propaganda film that was filmed, the fuel donates a town to the jews the very late because 1944. i mean,
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it was no secret to anybody. probably the red cross what was happening, but the what the nazis were doing against jewish people and sent to you in roma and homosexuals and everybody else. so i don't know why they even fathered, making this film. i mean, most jews were killed by the, in any way the and of course what happens to many of those musicians and many of those performers in the film is lips shortly after they had done they work. they too were placed on the transports. that was sent off to ask the same mentality. part of the idea of national socialism is
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a cultural phenomenon. and even among those that we are measuring, we still want them to make music for us to this mentality. so perverse, it's almost beyond comprehension. but essentially it is integral to the way that the hitler couples kimbler state function, the music of the arts, what to be used as part of somebody to machine, the rehearsals for a holocaust memorial day concept in london. the grandson of anita alaska, of unofficial to rage at the program. simon, vile fish is also a challenge. and to sing a musical highlights of the concept is a recreation for the victims of to race in stock.
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the composers to the vote over see right, this in the 19 ninety's tears and get direction. and she is check. she lives in prague and it brings into contemporary time a car and compose it. her reflections on the history the oh, in the the who or the
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me the to the board of, of i use it from the very or korean as a sort of fuel line above which then the singer sings of sort of come tauriel jewish orthodox prayer on top of it, so i'm seeing some these are basically the most strongest. jewish crown there is above the very rec pm the, you know, i didn't choose to be pointing this family and i certainly wouldn't. so somehow, sally,
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the memory of victims of the holocaust to use that somebody or in building as it were. and i'm very sensitive about that at the same time it, it's such a part of my dna somehow that whatever i end up doing it, it pays upon it. and she was just a very loving grandmother. she still is sooner she would come to every single concept that i ever did. i mean from every school concept to, to today really? absolutely. because you understand everything, not every single, no boss is asking too much less than ever. yeah.
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i know when you do that well, just in between nephew. yeah, no. i'm in the office taking all sheets. i'm stressed and responds and accomplish things i was reading through it in the fun part of you're not feeling better than the sheet. the attention of the couple of clicking get all that is in the hospital toying with this, isn't the flight of from michigan get dark enough on basic preventative? he does in the, in 1945, anita and ranada, alaska when liberated but homeless and state laws they had to stay in germany for months because no country would take in state. this displaced persons
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immediately after the war. finally, they managed to emigrate to england, where they were reunited with the oldest system of the on the to london is where i need to alaska 2nd lives began. it was easy for us to speak to my generation then to our own children, because at the time she was in her early mid twenty's starting a family starting a new life in a new language, she actively did not want to bring up that period of her life she felt that she wanted to catch up on last time, so she wanted to catch up with her, tell her studies and start her family and get on with her life. the chiller, that's, i'd save time. also brought her back to life. i need to alaska beneficial is a cellist and founding member of the english chamber orchestra. she married pianist
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page of via fish for almost 50 years. she didn't return to germany. in 1996, she wrote her memoir and became known as the trellis device which filled him for the things that stayed in germany until shortly before the end of the wall . that what opportunities for him to leave sooner. for example, in 1936 when he was offered the position of conduct of the new york philharmonic as this yeah, that's due to the flow for hobbies choosing sonya okay. i gotcha. and he finally took himself and his family to safety in switzerland, in february 1945. and this is some moment off to his the notification from he began performing again in 1947. for example, here
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a besides vote festival in 1954 the the, let's look at it from a postal perspective. the musical license gemini, had been so complicit in the crimes of the nazi regime that he never looked back never to then states. so us questions. they carry on as though nothing happened, because as far as, as music is concerned, nothing happened the illusion of the wizard,
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right in germany. i don't think people who should presume to judge someone in a situation they counties and a mattress. and i don't blame for 10 glass and not leaving everything behind and going to america. when no one would have known who he was. i mean the categories folk i meant is that so easy? so nice. the filters are also not unless it's some damage. we still haven't truly grappled with the question exactly how many jewish musicians were dismissed. how big was the political influence, or were people simply willing to be instrumental lives with the we still don't have answers to those questions. all right, and these all 50, that's in the meantime, i would ask him to say all these people who suddenly disappeared, why did you think they went to discuss funding? it doesn't mind what to after the war. my mother told me that on the radio they
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often heard about what the allies had found in the concentration comp silence on. and he said to me, is we can never be happy again. the need the, the for the bid him for the thing that died in november 1954 at the age of 68. this grave is entitled bag in south western germany, the in 2018 renata. alaska ha,
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placed underneath the alaska binding fish. were invited to the german parliament, a son raphael, violet fish plate, the channel, the indian, those bonds from the vin before, via by the dorchence are less than called fuss then guns us. yeah, we have take the show then need the deadline. if you say of the items, since it's mine, half of our list, press go button and then send new vinnish i purchased to soon for a fee and fee. the additional boy s. next task is done. i am find gifts on the lips and display gifted monthly scents. no, this one that's the most. yeah. i had my m is last about the fish a great deal. in the way she's able to talk about what happened in such
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a straightforward way. i liked her speech quite a lot because i think it's enough. and afterwards i wrote her to say i admired what she had to say is a clue to her connection to the culture for 0 for reconciliation. her big heart, if i this out. so there's something very moving about that i'll see, to me and music also had something to do with it. even the time that i performed for that man. somehow it all goes to demonstrate the power of music. this isn't sizing dolphin dusty music and does it cost out the desolate lice in the is divided into thoughts if you hello, doesn't this know how and old in real life or this is the nazi succeeded in destroying. many things is supplement music. g,
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