the just education makes the world make up your own mind. made for mines of russia attacks ukraine from bases inside russia. then why shouldn't ukraine be allowed to fire back with a weapon supplied by the west? that's the question posed by french president the money on my call speaking in germany this week, and his eyes that would not amount to an escalation of the war. now the white house disagrees. washington does not encourage keith to use weapons it has supplied inside russia. that's put an end to speculation about that position shifting for now at least the discussions. why do we put them as well aware off which might be the reason his warnings against playing with fire are becoming more and more robust

. nicole fairly in berlin, and this is the day the parents of self defense includes also striking targets outside ukraine, legitimate mentor targets inside a restaurant, foster group and split up that we think we should allow them to neutralize ministry sides. when we saw it was a fired starts, which a tough ukraine, this constant escalation, continue to serious consequences. we don't encourage your enabled the use of us supplied weapons to strike inside russia and ukraine, as i've said before, it has to make its own decisions about the best way to effectively defend itself. we're going to make sure that it has the equipment, it needs to do that. also on the day the us does not want

israel to launch a full scale military operation and rough. uh, but where exactly does the white house draw the line? we still don't want to see these rarely, as we say smash and or off, or with large units over cover over the large pieces of the territory. and we to believe that we haven't seen that at this point, but we're going to be watching us, of course, very, very close to welcome to the de sergio crane and be allowed to use western weapons against targets inside russia. the question which has increased in relevance following russia's offensive near har keith this month, and the rapid advances made their code ukraine have prevented this by targeting russian forces before they cross the border. if you are a money on my call, the answer is yes. your brain should be allowed to strike russian military targets with western weapons. but that would be a change to the policy followed by paris, washington, london,

and berlin for more than 2 years of war. and as far as washington is concerned, that no strife policy stance russia's bloody food and has threatened serious consequences if his forces are in fact hit in his own country by western weapons, is warn the west not to play with fire. as he puts it, we have this report. ukraine's 2nd city hockey in the countries northeast. in recent weeks, increasingly a target of russian attacks. russia also claimed it has made territorial gains in the hockey region which borders russia. ukrainian president loading there is a lensky has warned, rushes, preparing and offensive against har. keith, as he says, restrictions on western weapons are crippling, keeps ability to defend itself when they move in. would you boys, boy big fire any weapon from their territory at hours?

and they've been so the biggest advantage that russia has, we named was them, but we can't do anything to their systems which are located on russian territory with, with western weapons. we don't have any value right, except problem, but no need to achieve. you installed in baggage, calling i numbers to lift those restrictions. he says ukraine should be allowed to use western weapons to attack positions inside russia. some of the sections, overall us have no. uh, my messages, i think we should not consider doing those 2 sections because by having too many restrictions we are trying to handle the printing on forces on their back because they're not started using that capability to defend themselves. the united states has already sent you a queen. it's attack comes a long range missiles seen here. and file footage, with a range of up to 300 kilometers. lifting restrictions would allow ukraine to hit

targets, such as any troops build up in the belgrade region where russia is believed to be building an air base cave would also be able to attack supply lines to rush and control cry. mia, which are seen as critical for the problems we're effort on our recent visit to keep the british for. and secretary david cameron said ukraine could use weapons provided by london any way it sees fit, including inside russia. but other partners, including germany, are so far on willing to grant ukraine that permission fearing it could increase the risk of direct confrontation with most well. a chris morris is a security expert at the university of portsmouth and joins is now welcome to the day, chris. if ukraine was allowed to use western weapons against targets inside russia, would that fundamentally alter the balance of power in this war? was that, would it be a significant step? and it would absolutely help those ukrainian forces on the front line. it's not

going to fundamentally alter the nature of the conflict, unfortunately. now, no, certainly. well, it's not really upsets many of the challenges that ukraine is facing in terms of its recruitment of the troops, speeding fatigue on the front line. and it's just general lack of supplies and equipment. it's also going to, yeah, again, like russia has developed a series of accounts and measures against many western weapon systems. so it was the guy, it would be a very positive step, and it would shift the balance markedly in ukraine's favor original. fundamentally going to change things unfortunately. so if the strategic benefit is limited, what of them be wise to dismiss flooding, air pollutants threats. some of them nuclear, about the consequences will naturally, russian saber rattling is of immense, concerning this ongoing conflict. and unfortunately, yes, commencing to strikes using what's been weapon systems against russian targets could be seen as a key escalation. on the other hand,

you've got to consider that at any given moment. let him if he's in his kind of doing pretty much everything that he is willing to do to kind of oppose to the west and west and support for ukraine in particular. so there's not really much space for him to escalates in that regard. and the white house has said repeatedly that it does not encourage or enable strikes on russian territory with american weapons . what do you make of the wording here? the readings don't seem to meet much encouragement in regard to this, but what do they mean by an a bullying as well? you probably notice this, but over the last few months, the language surrounding the use of american weapon systems has been guessing, increasingly ambiguous. now, we already have within the last few weeks, several nations either confirm that their weapon systems are available for use within russia or take the step of actually allowing them when they previously haven't been able to be used in that matter. now, the softening that we're seeing from the us is very interesting, and it would be

a major step, of course, like limiting the use of, of how american weapon systems are employees by is one of the main leave is that america has to control. i suppose the tempo of this conflict. so if they do to choose to take that step, i think they going to choose that moment with the exception. okay. do you think we're going to eventually see that moment? again, without being, you know, without, you know, throwing myself down to well, yeah, i would say that that moving disability increasingly imminent, like i say, the ukrainian focuses on the front line or increasing a believe good. we have russia kind of messing for. so let's just say with the border, it seems that the obvious conclusion is that yes, america will be in the near future for mixing these weapons to be used overseas up in russia. is it what and what was the consequences for you? thank to again like us, i don't think it's going to fundamentally alter anything. again,

blake is going to be a lifeline for ukrainian forces is going to help them contain russian offensives. it's going to hopefully allow them to push back a little bit and stop any further encroachments into ukrainian territory. but like i said, basically, the russian military has been going through this kind of darwinian process for the last few years. where every time there was a change in tactics or a new weapon system introduced, they either adopt their electronic war or fat. will they adopt the tactics? so again, it's going to be very short term gains, and the likelihood is something that the russian military is already prepping for. so again was you might see a nice and positive movements on the ukranian side in the show attempt is not going to be of fundamental alteration and insides of united the broader picture of escalation with this by the river tasting, rush hour and you know, driving a wedge again, i think the thing rusher really has, unless it does take that, you know, it does actually follow through on his nuclear threats. i don't think there's much that can do to reasonably escalates that it's not already doing. what would it take

to bring about a fundamental alteration as you, as you call it on the battlefield? that's the critical question. i think we should. ready be asking at the moment at the moment, the way the conflict stands is, is a brucell, a very troubling war of attrition. now this is not suitable that the house of this conflict any be looked at fighting, but it is a type of role that plays very much into russian strengths. now what we need to be doing uh, and everyone who supports you great needs to be doing it is effects re finding a new way of you know, contesting this war. because at the moment, like fighting this war of attrition, introducing new weapon systems introducing you funding packages. it's very helpful . but the fundamental nature of the war is one that very much suits russia on an ideological level out on a practical level as well. so unfortunately, i can't really give him much guidance into what the actual while up,

what that other foldable f i might actually be. but if things don't change radically, then again, we might not get the outcome that we wants in this conflict. at this point, what do you think is more important western weapons or artillery shells and manpower so that's an interesting question. now i would say that's absolutely central to addressing for ukraine's will. moving forward is going to be addressing the mountain power issue. now, when we think about the type of all the ukraine has been fighting, it's been puts an immense pressure on, particularly the service people that it mobilized valuable. a lot of them have been, you know, fighting a war in the trends for 2 years. no, it's very difficult for them to get, you know, manpower, rotating in and out of that conflict which leads to fatigue. in addition, you know, russia is proving that it has this in drawing capacity to continue to mobilize, continue to bring forces to that. and you know, again, overtime arithmetic is really going to start counting. indeed it is as we speak. so

i think it's absolutely funds from them. and so that more than anything you great insults is manpower. she's just now going to be easy. so that was chris laura, so the university of portland, thank you so much. thank you. a look at the gaza warren, our israel's military says it has taken full control of the strip of land that serves as a buffer zone between gaza and egypt. the 14 kilometer long philadelphia cord, or as part of a larger demilitarized zone along both sides of the cause of egypt border. meanwhile, israel has stepped up its operations in the southern gauze and city of rockland, the spines, international criticism over civilian casualties and an order by v i. c. j to hold all military activities there. israel's national security adviser says the war and gaza is expected to go on at least until the end of the year.

and the white house has condemned the loss of life of dozens of civilians as a result of and is really air strike and rough on the weekend. but washington says, it doesn't believe israel's offensive and gaza has violated president joe biden is declared red line for withholding future transfers of weapons to israel, a secretary of state and to me, blanket and says that israel must outline, in any case it's strategy for bringing the war to an end, as in the absence of a plan for the day after. there won't be a day after a plan for the day after that does not leave israel responsible for gaza, which it says it does not want to be. but if it is, it will simply have an enduring insurgency on his hands. for as far as one can see into the future or not, if not from us will be left in charge, which is unacceptable. or if not, we'll have chaos. lawlessness and a vacuum that will eventually will be sold again by a mouse or maybe something if it's possible. imagine even worse, and we can now speak to laura blumenfeld. she's the middle east alice,

the new york times best selling author who joins us from washington, dc. welcome laura. joe biden has said in the past that the full scale is really military operation and gaza would cross a red line. is there any clear evidence though, that such a red line really exist as well? you saw what happened today. i mean, the white house describes the latest um, unfortunate loss of civilian lives is heartbreaking, but not red line breaking. and i think if anybody smudged that let red line this week, it would be the i c j by allowing a little bit of ambiguity in their language. they talked about an incursion into rafa. might they use the word might endanger the past? and he is there and israel with its tom wittick interpretation, their lawyers quickly got busy saying that, you know, we won't cause a great loss of life were in this case they were talking about genocide and that left just enough ambiguity. we've heard, you know, john kirby from the white house. they do not smash into the, the,

the major population centers, but the major ground offensive. and so these razors same were proceed. you know, with a scalpel, a lot of bones saw me at the jake sullivan, the national security council advisor argued last week that there was no mathematical formula to assessing how big an id f operation is. so the scale will always be subjective. where do you see the administration actually drawing its lines as well? i think there are 2 important things for the administration, not only in terms of their relationship with israel and guys or the companies but their, their position in the world. and the 1st thing is leadership, i mean, we are not going alone. nation natania who said, if we have to fight alone, we will with our fingernails. but i didn't represent alliances, you know, decency versus revenge. so i think the most important thing is where we can maintain our leadership and our alliances with the less than with other, you know, friendly nations. you know, the 2nd most important thing is that we maintain our moral high ground. that's very

important to us. how do you cite bad and stay good? and i think if we see that kind of erosion of the morality, i'm in the battle field and gaza, that's where we will draw the line. that's where we always have. and that's in a way also some of the lessons that we're trying to learn and, and mistakes we're trying to make up for, in terms of our behavior in iraq, afghanistan. but you know, saying that there is no real way to, to assess how big this is using words like the smashing into russell, which israel is probably not going to do because they know that the world is watching, is that not to get out of your obligations free card and away? no, i actually take that, although we're not watching. i think the united states actually has israel by the scruff of the neck right now. i mean, as i heard from your previous report about ukraine, in some sense, guns are the love language of america to other nations. and israel is heavily dependent on guns and weapons. you saw as again, after this tragic fire in the tent. the encampment passed indians on sunday night.

the israels were quick to point out that they use the smallest munitions available of 37 pound bomb. i'm sure that was because the united states was saying, you know, it's our guns. it's our ground rules. and so i think that even diplomatically at the un, i mean now there's going to be a un security council resolution to condemn and entered hall the incursion into rafa. i'm sure the united states is going to exact a price from israel if they are going to have stain or veto, actually think more likely was what israel is going to be looking for. and they're going to say to israel, okay, you know, maybe we'll give you that video at the un, but let's see some flexibility on the hostage deal which the united states really does. he is unlocking the whole mass and, and the key to keep moving forward. um or perhaps, you know, with a, we'd like to see those 350 trucks, what you promised us at least a 100 trucks coming in from the north. so i think there are ways that they're using their leverage is just behind the scenes. because israel is absolutely dependent

united states at this point. yeah. there's, there's an election here and there are many people in the us that would like to see the violent ministration. take a more robust stance towards israel. there's also people were saying that, you know, the administration is not doing enough to support israel in this. so i want to know from you is to what extent is joe biden's policy determined by those domestic political pressures? and is he always going to lose support whatever you dot i mean, great point and the domestic pressure on him cuts both ways. in fact, one of those interesting demonstrations i saw on a college campus was where you had the pro palestinian protesters chanting and the counter protest was chanting the same thing which was asked by then i think for the president, the most important thing is not to look week week is kind of code for all right, because that's one of the biggest problems for him. he's got to show the sticking with is ally. we saw nikki haley who was potentially going to go into a trump administration over there in israel. you know, writing on a shell,

an artillery shell, it is, was planning to use, you know, finish them. so the good news for buying however, is finish them is what nikki haley saying now. but if you recall, donald trump said finish it. he doesn't want this where to go on either. i mean, as of now, it's kind of been a sloppy, slow and lowly kind of lowly kind of fight. and trump does not want to see that on his watch either. as well as the analysts laura blue and felt thank you so much for sharing your insights. was great talking to you. thank you. great to be here to columbia. and now we're congress has voted to, to band bull fighting the band means there are now on the 8 countries and the world . horrible fighting is allowed, including those where the animal is and killed. lawmakers voted over whelming lead by $93.00 votes to to, to phase out the practice by 2027 bull fighting is popular in the country with

hundreds of events every year, each drawing thousands of spectators the lot or just the states to help find alternative employment for tens of thousands of people engaged in the business of, of 5. and we can go live now to columbia and brand or, and listen to i love i san diego, a centuries old tradition, but a highly controversial one in columbia. this is the end of the year is long campaign to end bull fighting. why that lawmakers agreed about it now? it wasn't because it seems is the end of this long journey for lawmakers. so let's say that the, it was the for debate in the lower house of the department. where is this issue and it was taken today as just said 93 volts in favor of 2 accounts. we have to say that the costs of already at times debated today in both. that'd be. busy at some members of the problem and try to leave the house and not get through to break decorum. but it was not possible this time, those who were in favor of these

a proposal of the, of the see a bill, a bad for the fights. and they waiting fiber and they were my dirty, and that's why we have this story called this issue on their thinking and by the government. we have to say that the do controversial discussion that started seeing the early ninety's, but never it cleared and see show was taken to be in the by, in the parliament or even the columbia inside of the stuff has changed over the last few years. and that's why we are seeing these a decision today to forget to call this in our res difference. also the presence of mind activities is a stronger at the mentality of the columbus health change as well. yeah. sometimes with the president, welcome to a decision, he has to sign it into law. he wrote on acts that those who enjoy the death of animals will end up enjoying the death of human beings. but not everyone sees it that way. what are the opponents of the band been saying as well,

some of them gather together near some of the bulls are reading us across the country, especially in the biggest in the, in columbia, which is the board drinking. but with that last time the, somebody yeah. some of them were gathering there in order to process against this a new know i'm this story called in moments for the country, but the left side that they have like, uh, like, uh, a way to the lake to delay the implementation of this. and you know, because a, the session is what 2nd in the lower house of the parliament still has to go to the upper house of the parliament, the congress. and also a has to go to the presidential it sanction. so we will be seeing bull fighting for, for some time to come and columbia then. yes, according to their proposal, nicole, it varies uh, 3 years, 2 years, which i called you the 3 years of frustration. because as you said in the previous

report, some of the people involved in these kind of industry, i called you to the call me get about 1000000 people involved in this industry. you . we have to mention some and all farmers a breathing me bite full apples and also people in the bulky with this kind of a cool sort of industry. they have to change and find another way to support themselves economically. and it's not clear how the government is going to support them and how they are going to did these transition. what display are you say? the current a board rings are going to be does for in a sport and click the real values in the next 3 years. and columbia isn't the only country a lot in america, turning its back on bull fighting. is it or right now? yes, it is. the only call 3 discussing this stuff with the parliament gmail brasil to bind staple fight many, many years ago. and the other countries

a like mexico business where like whether i'm through, they are like you nam legal limbo. they have this cost about this in, in the they're far limits, but they haven't made a decision. mexico suburbia, specific case because, and each state i have to thank each it, they own decision about the both sides. that's why we see 7 states, mexico, that the country there, these parts of the quotes around everything and some others who bank or divide the . yeah, this low, is it motivated solely by a desire to end animal cruelty or also one to shake off, you know, messages of the colonial era? that's part of the debate you called because the arguments and, and coming from different ways in the, in the colombo society, from the governments, from the colombo society, and also far from the columbia in a new model, activities and all the arguments and the discussions and ideas come from different

so it's like a mix. if you take a look to proposal is frontier, there are different aspects and difficult to say each way. columbia is trying to delete or in race, parts of that colonial aspect that we get from a spanish colonial to as in many maybe centers as well as turn list santiago lopez turning us from columbia. thank you so much. you're welcome bye. and then iceland, a new volcanic fisher has opened up in the south west of the country. the region has seen 8 or options in the last 3 years. the kilometer long crack in the earth began spewing lama just hours ago today. on wednesday, the affected area is mostly unpopulated, but close to the famous blue looking spot and a major geothermal power plant believe is a rupture and comes as a blow to the residents of the fishing town of grinda. vague who have not been

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