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that we have an opportunity to to get it right before we even start environmental activist. all of the rules fail billions to be made out to talk to mentoring deep the greed task june 7th on the w italians in january this year, mocking the mother of 3 fascist activists in rome in 1978, almost 18 years after the defeated the right that can be few single gestures send about designed to send such a shilling warning. and you see pictures like that in your what goes to your mind. we are reminded so on the darkest
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hours of this continent when fascists were in power and set the world on fire. and i think every body who is in a democratic responsibility should be aware that there is this tendency of this political direction and this threat. and we should ally, and i tried to fight this the last november, a secret meeting involving fall right activist, neo nazi sympathizers. i'm seeing the effect goods from germany's writing a if the party took place to the hotel and puts them outside. but in the mission to discuss the mass deportation of migrants asylum, see cuz i'm not sure like german citizens judge to of assimilated poorly to life in
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the new country. the organizes dispute characterization of the event and the information we're reporting about it. what they didn't know at the time was that the german investigative group, corrective, was also at the meeting, watching and listening. principal guest speaker, the notorious austria in white supremacist mountains zone, invited to provide the goods with the ideological heft and the means of imposing it . i wanna make life on the lesson for those people who wanna is lamar as a country, those people who want to exploit or social systems. because at the moment, germany is like an open invitation for everybody wants to explore those to those who attended the meeting had been invited as patriots and were expected to contribute financially to the course. the group was in points moved
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it was really a moment of, we're just getting the po, it's just a matter of time. we're almost there. there's a camera in front of our nose. all we have to do now is not the, the host of the meeting was calling it's very outspoken, least the meeting for the master plan, the called at the master plan. and he invited people from the if the he invited people with money. and i think this meeting, all of this, like in the nicholas came together, i think one of the politics and money. and this was special about this meeting because marketing is in, uh, i was, you know, it was really invited in a special way. so into the invitation, they called him, we have the honor that this man can talk about the master plan. so anyway, it was
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a special on the report on the meeting it, many like a messiah o. b, a. if these poll ratings plummeted as hundreds of thousands protested across the country incense, but such a topic was discussed by main stream. politicians mixing with notice stream is and what's more close to a location stumped forever in germany's post will conscience hardly a co incidence? was it this meeting took place, been 8 kilometers from van se where the extermination of millions of jews was plotted and agreed by hitler's nazi cheese. where are you going to tell me that that sold never, never crossed your mind? i think that's the is despicable of the mainstream media to even compare it is, you know, it's completely not comparable. and it can tell you why it is meeting with the place to the calls pairing. and i'm just hoping i can tell you why just making the play flossie. the vote no from all thoughts at all. yeah,
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because i'm not focused on the past all the time. i was looking at all the special meetings of places i focused in the future. and ultimately, patients, you mentioned on this criticism, these people are focused on the task 6 months of gone by soon supports that meeting . but the best hasn't settled. and for some, at least the warning lights are still flashing. red. propose indicate that the far right will make significant gains in next month, so you have to pay the elections. if that happens, what, what do you do with all that new power? is there a ground plan? how safe is democracy? are you going to be across the european union? the key questions that we set out to investigate 1st stop in brussels, where the advance of the right wing has set nerves jangling among seen the politicians . not helped by a space of scandals involving spying and influence. peddling among members of the
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european parliament to be helpful additions, how don't hesitate to get paid from our enemies. so it is the combination of external pressures and internal willingness to cooperate with those who have the whole styles. hostile plans for the, for the and there are many other factors which are threatening democracy, for instance, of the look of understandable communication visible just because the people are calling for health. that it is a lot of uncertainty and the uncertainty has only increased along with mounting numbers straight to attacks on german politicians. the frequency of these interventions has doubled since 2019 ample evidence for germany. target number one and your 4 x treatments
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on may the 7th, yvonne most of the local 3 is candidates in just the front of self campaigning in the wrong place. at the wrong time. the far right to tell them to the with the time is perhaps the biggest recent threat to germany is now being assessed in the cottage. took got it all. 27 germans will be tried. charged with attempting to overt strode a german government. the quote president quoted the most serious national security trial. since the 2nd world war, prosecutors said the accused stockpiled weapons, and were prepared to kill, to achieve the aides. senior german politicians say they will trump the god against
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you. think efforts are underway to repeat this. attempted qu, they could be of attempted cuz well, you know, i'm not allowed to talk about concrete things, but i would strongly suggest to listen to the presence of the intelligence agencies in germany. and they are very clear that there are people still acting and trying to do stuff like that's how crucial of coming europeans that actions to democracy in new york. i have to tell you that this election, so we'll have a decisive follow for the future years. and the way the life defend make business in europe. and so the selections are very crucial and these elections are necessary to protect. i think that if i look only the far right,
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but the political bowers, including the new members of the following month, will destroy the unity off the european union. then the you will, we can, we have the have to be strong now because we have a lot of new challenges and, and, and the nice outside of the role for we try to influence inside the . ready how can people trust the elections? they don't know whether they've voting for a russian puppet or somebody who's genuine. i think everybody who has a little bit of an understanding about politics knows where they put the puppets are. if you're listening to the pre election, the hype, you could be forgiven from thinking the far right. there's about the story, the citadel of european democracy,
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demanding to be left inside. but you'd be wrong. it's already on those gates and its power and influence have expanded rapidly across the continent. you have autographs and you have fall right, governments and fall right parties of the well established in your now does that frighten you? it does because i see a lot of lying in the campaigns. i mean the promises. so what's frightening me as is the 3 you didn't do enough to or for the people of the alternative from the far right? no such, i'm big. you a t on the trip to the, to see the white supremacist mountains zone, the islands, plenty of bodies of the playbook. and that of, of the far right move with that from intention to exhibit a high level of pressure on, in the goods either to adapt to life in europe. go a,
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what is this high level of pressure? what is any kind of pressure, economic pressure, financial prey, harris is not at all, not at all threats confiscations but no complications that's, that's you made all this up. what did i do? i got to ask them to do them every right and i ride by every right, that's the beach and they have the same overlays. you basically have their positives, a culture called what i'm saying is for people who are you legally with a passport, the have to assist as a system of high pressure and also them voluntarily to go to the home countries. if the prefer the listing uh is like, pallet society, you might as well just go to in this and make so what are you able to deliver upon from dreams of division discrimination, closing, find restaurants, housing most destroyed multiculturalism. what, what, what do you deliver? that's pretty destructive program, isn't it? and i'll throw comes a positive one. we want to safe and peace of identity and the same time respect.
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and we are a nation culture, the thousands of islamic countries respect to tell go, well, no, i respect the blue relative to the world, but i want to save my own country it's, it's just foreigners go home, not at all. and that sounds good enough. eldest leslie and joe people, if you want to help go there and help them there and stop importing them to europe and becoming a pull sector in the met. that's what i say. and i think a message is not very cold at all. it's very serious and that's why at the moment the ac is the most popular party among young to test that played the a. these lead candidates in the european elections dropped into a small bavarian town just a month before the boat. maximilian pro max to his promises was there to greet the faithful. the image is crucial. the fancy sports god given name out tunes in the game and case the cameras missed the 1st time around. the model was for decoration
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and the little white cost of funds to assist the anti immigrants message. it didn't look like a party of the german security services and classified potentially extreme. but it is just 2 days off with a german court confirmed that classification and the a if he can continue to be watch bug and followed by the state across the street for the event account, a demonstration. and a reminder that quite apart from his party, madge max himself does have problems. big ones, your office is just being rated after your chinese and the system was arrested last month on the charge will be as active as an agent for china. the news report said that and it said several people working closely with you, receive funding from china to do you know by then? no, that's not true. i mean, the 1st thing is, look,
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the gym and domestic intelligence said that they super. why is my former assistant for 4 years? obviously, he was suspicious, but i was the want. and now those who knew every thing play me tell you play, you're paying the victims, you know, i the title victim, obviously i am. but this is not the political question. this is what i always say. the government reads germany at the, the, the government wants us to look for spies. but we don't, we notice this feel nauseous. it's a difficult thing. but the election is about politics. it's not about spines. your role, so i believe under investigation by the public prosecutor has done no, no, no. i'm surprised to publicize the address then from russia in china. the public prosecute to interest is now reading news. and is considering whether the news reports are enough to prosecute me or to investigate me. so they call it
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a pre investigation. it is just taking good on me because those people don't want to talk about politics. no payments came your way. nothing from the protocol, sco voice of europe for the reply declared the payment. but once again, if you repeat payment payment payments, you know, speaking that spin us, that's the way to a white is serious political debate. but a serious political debate was brewing only it wasn't the one proud wanted. you talked about scott doors and this information by the intelligence agencies you're pulling out with marine depends the rest of them on national now in front. so you're not so exciting to some of your closest political lies anymore. your look, 1st of all, we work together with our colleagues in new york in parliament. so they are very happy with cross spoke too soon. days later, the f these allies in the european parliament, the far right identity and democracy, groups through the mouth,
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crowd was banned by his party from any further campaigning. he remained so barely candidates, and he'll find out soon enough. what the boat does make a b a if these pre election payoffs is valid. and the question to the chair of the bone does tags intelligence committee, can you foresee any circumstances under which a fall, right? government could come to power here in germany? no. certainly i arrived now. i see no way people never saw it the a steve would pull that 20 to 25 percent. did that? yeah. well yeah, i mean you come for see any of the code for that and i know i need to go for some gym. that's true, but you asked me for pro bono, for profiles, ease and, and i don't see that,
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but that doesn't change that we have to take this very, very serious, if we're watching, the extra miss would be voted into power and then they show that they can solve the problem is we, we will and then they gets exchanged for someone else in the next election. we would have no problem. the problem is that when right wing extremists get into power, they don't give it up again. and that's what you see every way that everywhere includes hungry with its far right populace. prime minister, victor, all the friends of love be uprooted, and to be of russians. he doesn't want to leave the you. you said recently he wants to come correct. in office since 2010, he submitted tom with associates from his feed us party dumping 18 key rows in government. only now he has a serious challenge here in the little village close to hundreds border with
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ukraine, a whistle blower and form of feed us inside. the campaigning receipts in the european parliament but paid so much as long as a bishop is much logic. he wants to, i'll speak to obama from power. it's not an easy job to with the support is here. the rural areas are a strong hold for all about. but a ton of the signs on a rainy days for a little cheese. and then the series mode you on those, he's bringing in crowds and telling them what they've long wanted to hear as the system is complex and the people are fed up into good option with the proper going and the lies with the secret service. so he's quite the hebrew production even, but i still think i'm quite sure that document action means it's possible to in the theme, to feed us some of the good or bad mojo speaks publicly about the government's interference and the judicial case. and he does so was almost far as he he was married. so the previous justice minister,
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you did vargas. and those the strengths and weaknesses of the system. the also knows what a state capture operation looks like when populus are in charge to main problem in hungary. the nation's 5 book on the, you know, in 5 years the or bundle or man spend more than 1300000000000 for in for propaganda. we have that many, a city of pope i've gotten the in 2024 in europe in the union been the ones have administered the oath has many, is still a new cation. we don't have a ministry of environment, but we do have, i mean it's still propaganda. it's to be, it's funny, but there are those 3 inch icing in the it'll be and i'm bored about the capture of states institutions like the police, the security say i have is the and got to press everything is captured. yeah, this thing is, is that the by, if he does guy what x to be this guy? the, the got this all the doors, the constitutional court,
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the president and everybody of course the, towards the idea of be split or vice thing from 2000. and then who would address that again to everybody or the position? so now there is no balance of power in hungry is the only one the one of the existing power is to feed us. this is a bar effect story. to soak with power factory, the economic bar be what it took up by waterman secret service part of it, the policy is everything. with all that, how is he really going to let himself be voted out of office? that's a question. i really hope that something the steel, the from the democratic hero environment is that oregon and, and have you ever heard of that, that does take over the fall or if the deal have demanded that from the on getting people it'd be added on the, not the short 5 need to have the difficult it will take more than some live time
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being on a rainy day or to push the or by machines through the exit. but how is it possible to let a single lead to take over an entire european state for so long could it's happen elsewhere. there's a reason why people might turn to the right. isn't that there's widespread discontent in europe with politics and outcomes? not just migration. a report to the commission in february talked about a broad geography of discontent, of declining regions. many small cities, towns and rural areas have a sense of dispatch, not just limited to economic hardship, but also to have a feeling of being politically disenfranchised, socially alienated. you have sympathy with them. absolutely. but allow me to come back to this any additional question because look to my crow. enjoyed metronome is currently in the polls. was his party around 17 percent in, in fonts. social is the shortest during the 16 percent in germany. this moment of
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the time, that's all the 2 top leaders of funeral and then the voice and the last because we are lacking real leaders. we have the support of citizens just 3 weeks before the european elections. so the vacuum right to prime minister rubber pizza survives and assassinations attempt in the town of a 190 kilometers from the capital practice law. but the government, so the shooter had a clear political motivation one of feet. so as i said, being taught hateful position, i love the filters. european leaders reacted shaw wanting the pilots have no place to european politics is fine, but they've already be plenty of warranties either late for, you know, or to go to the feet properly to go out the sphere. right. head of your judy elections. chris attacks finds out spits brutality and its intention. the fairies couldn't carriage similar violence in other parts of the comfortable with political
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hatreds. also from the you're a liberal political group review said it was increasingly along by the rising polarization. and the political, severe fuel by extreme is by the ology to some of those ideologies. world show last november in the fall, right? meeting in post them as it was in respectable assurances, legality and moderation. what is really interesting about it, they really wanted to do a, to plan everything in a way that seem to be legal. you know, they were, they, they emphasize that always, you know, we do it legally. we do it constitutionally and i think this also shows, you know, the, the dangers which are the other of these organizations, these movements. and also the idea, of course, they try to infuse these ideas into drugs society, you know, not by breaking law and not by changing the constitution or doing unconstitutional
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stuff. but by bending all these laws and institutions kind of a of yeah, like it's a, it's a slow poison into the society denazi's back then we're also saying everything has to be legal and you can look into the funds they pulled, the car is underlined. everything has to be legal. this is, this is, you know, normal the protocol which discussed the extermination of choose exec. yes. what's better backlash against you for breaking the story and the scripts came a way afterwards. the. yeah, of course, off of the story we had that tremendous backlash and we had people attacking us personally. the me, i was on the main channels of the party with name and face and saying that i am channels of the a f d. yes. so it was on the pocky main channels of twitter, etc. so they were kind of cooling our dog whistling against me, but also the rest of the collect teeth and
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a tory room was under under attack. i remember there were cameras, you know, waiting from right, right. it could blog is waiting for you to come down to says, and then we're showing we know where you are. we know your address. we are going to follow you and we know from internal monitoring of a ride to go check groups that they are organizing to find us. and we are actually not the only use for them exec and every kind of use room. every journalist who is reporting on these groups is actually targeted and you know, the stronger that gets, the more. yeah, the more people are targeted and that's for sure. it's not just in europe. the people are waiting with anxiety for the results of the june elections. ukraine, spices and politicians. those of any search by the far right with its russian sympathies, could have serious consequences for the war with moscow. in brussels. they know that to the i am to not have been not
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happy at all because sizing ukraine needs more, more weapons and more of munition and so on. your is supporting new k, but it's not enough. is it not enough in the military sense? and that's all that counts and the end of the day off, they don't have sovereignty over their own territory. they don't have a country today. we have to see at least 4 lines of support, but you are either, this is a key one. this is exist centrally important, critical one to support the ukraine of a sufficient amount of immunization and right, that's the west has to do more. ukraine's armed forces has seen plenty of promises coming. go aware that their political football and not always in the hands of the supporters if the elections give the far right great to influence, it might well mean that those are munition weapons supplies become
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a trickle locked in successive e u committees. by politicians who think ukraine should settle now with moscow, and in the war so far away from the field of conflicts, the political 5 lines have been drawn for ukraine as much as the rest of europe. the stakes could hardly be higher. the . the
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