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aim be allowed to fire back with a weapon supplies by the west. that's the question posed by french president emmanuel mccall, speaking in germany this week. and his eyes that would not amount to an escalation of the war. now the white house disagrees. washington does not encourage keith to use weapons it has supplied inside russia. that's put an end to speculation about that position shifting for now at least the discussions. what are we putting is well aware off, which might be the reason his warnings against playing with fire are becoming more and more robust. nicole fairly in berlin, and this is the day the, the rights of self defense includes also striking targets outside ukraine, legitimate mentor targets inside
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a restaurant foster group and split up that we think we should allowed them to neutralize ministry sites. when we saw it was a fired fuel 20, the sites which a tuck ukraine, this constant escalation, continue to serious consequences. we don't encourage your enabled the use of us supplied weapons to strike inside russia. ukraine, as i said before, it has to make its own decisions about the best way to effectively defend itself. we're going to make sure that it has the equipment, it needs to do that. also on the day the us does not want israel to launch a full scale military operation and rough. uh but where exactly does the white house draw the line? we still don't want to see these, or at least as we say, smash and or off, or with large units over cover over large pieces the territory. and we still believe that we haven't seen that at this point. what we're going to be watching us, of course, very, very close are welcome to the de sergio crane and be
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allowed to use western weapons against targets inside russia. the question which has increased in relevance following russia's offensive near har keith this month, and the rapid advances made their code ukraine have prevented this by targeting russian forces before they cross the border. if you are a money on my call, the answer is yes. your brain should be allowed to strike russian military targets with western weapons. but that would be a change to the policy followed by paris, washington, london, and berlin for more than 2 years of war. and as far as washington is concerned, that no strife policy stance rushes bloody way of food and has threatened serious consequences if his forces are in fact hit in his own country by western weapons, is more in the west not to play with fire as he puts it, we have this report. ukraine's 2nd city hockey in the countries northeast. in
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recent weeks, increasingly a target of russian attacks. russia also claimed has made territorial gains in the hockey region which borders russia. ukrainian president, loading there's a lot in ski, has warned, rushes, preparing and offensive against har. keith, he says, restrictions on western weapons are crippling, keeps ability to defend itself when they move in, would you boys, boy, big fire any weapon from their territory at hours and they've been so that's the biggest advantage that russia has. we named was them, but we can't do any. they go to their systems which are located in russian territory with with western weapons. we don't have him dying right. separate our but no need to achieve young stuart and baggage, calling on numbers to lift those restrictions. he says ukraine should be allowed to use western weapons to attack positions inside russia. some of us have this the
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restrictions, although i have no, uh, my messages. i think we should not consider doing those so sections. because by having too many restrictions, we are trying to handle the criminal and forces on their back because they're not started using that capability to defend themselves. the united states has already sent you a queen. it's a tech comes a long range missiles seen here, and file footage, with a range of up to 300 kilometers. lifting restrictions would allow ukraine to hit targets, such as any troops build up in the belgrade region where russia is believed to be building an air base cave would also be able to attack supply lines to rush and control crime. mia, which are seen as critical for the crumbling war effort on our recent visit to keep the british for. and secretary david cameron said ukraine could use weapons provided by london any way it sees fit,
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including inside russia. but other partners, including germany, are so far on willing to grant you claim that permission fearing it could increase the risk of direct confrontation with myself. well, chris morris is the security expert at the university of portsmouth and joins is now. welcome to the day chris. now, if you crane was allowed to use western weapons against targets inside russia, would that fundamentally alter the balance of power and this war as well as that would be a significant step. and it would absolutely help those ukrainian forces on the front line is not going to fundamentally alter the nature of the conflict. unfortunately. now not certainly, well, it's not really upsets many of the challenges that ukraine is facing in terms of its recruitment of the troops, speeding fatigue on the front line. and it's just general lack of supplies and equipment. it's also going to, yeah, again, like russia has developed a series of accounts and measures against many western weapon systems. so,
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well as the guy, it would be a very positive step and it would shift the balance markedly in ukraine's favor original. fundamentally going to change things unfortunately. so if the strategic benefit is limited, what have them be wise to dismiss flooding, air pollutants, threats. some of them nuclear about the consequences will naturally rushing saber rattling is of immense, concerning this ongoing conflict. and unfortunately, yes, commencing to strikes using worst and weapon systems against russian targets could be seen as a key escalation. on the other hand, you got to consider this at any given moment. let him, if he's in his kind of doing pretty much everything that he is willing to do to kind of oppose to the west, adds west and support for you. great. in particular. so there's not really much space for him to escalates in that regard. and the white house has said repeatedly that it does not encourage or enable strikes on russian territory with american weapons. what do you make of the wording here?
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the rings don't seem to meet much encouragement in regard to this, but what do they mean by an a billing as well? you'll probably notice this, but over the last few months, the language surrounding the use of american weapon systems has been guessing. increasingly, um, dig us now we already have within the last few weeks, several nations either confirm that they're working systems are available for use within russia or take the step of actually allowing them when they previously haven't been able to be used in that amount of. now, the softening that we're seeing from the us is very interesting, and it would be a major step, of course, like limiting the use of, of how american weapon systems are employees by is one of the main leave is that america has to control. i suppose the tempo of this conflict. so if they do to choose to take that step, i think they going to choose that moment with the exception. ok. do you think we're going to eventually see that moment?
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again without being, you know, without it, i find myself down to well yeah, i would say that that movement does feel increasingly eminence. like i say, the ukrainian forces on the front line or increasingly believe good. we have russia kind of messing for. so let's just say with the border, it seems that the obvious conclusion is that yes, america will be in the near future that permits in these weapons to be used overseas in russia. is it what and what was the consequences for you? thank to again like us, i don't think it's going to fundamentally alter anything. again, lake is going to be a lifeline for ukrainian forces is going to help them contain russian offensives. it's going to hopefully allow them to push back a little bit and stop any further encroachments into ukrainian territory. but like i say, basically, the russian military has been going through this kind of darwinian process for the last few years. why every time there is a change in tactics or a new weapon system introduced,
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they either adopt their electronic wolf that will they adopt that type ticks. so again, it's going to be very short term gains, and the likelihood is something that the russian military is already prepping for. so again, well, so you might see a nice and positive movements on the ukranian side in the short term is not going to be a fundamental alteration and insides of, you know, the broader picture of escalation with this, by the river tasting russia. and, you know, driving a wedge again, i think the thing rusher really has, unless it does take that, you know, it does actually follow through on his new dia, threats. i don't think there's much that can do to reasonably escalates that it's not already doing. what would it take to bring about a fundamental alteration as you, as you call it on the battlefield? that's the critical question. i think we should. ready be asking at the moment at the moment, the way the conflict stands is it is a brucell, a very troubling war of attrition. now this is not suitable that the outset of this conflict any be looked at fighting, but it is
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a type of role that plays very much into russian strengths. now what we need to be doing uh, and everyone who supports you great needs to be doing is, is effectively finding a new way of, you know, contesting this war. because at the moment, like fighting this war of attrition, introducing new weapon systems, introducing new funding packages is very helpful. but the fundamental nature of the war is one that very much suits russia on an ideological level out on a practical level as well. so unfortunately i, i can't really get much guidance into what the actual level that other phone level 5 might actually be. but if things don't change radically, then again, we might not get the outcome that we want in this conflict. at this point, what do you think is more important western weapons or artillery shells and manpower that's, that's an interesting question. now i would say that's absolutely central to addressing for ukraine's will. moving forward is going to be addressing the
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mountain power issue. now, when we think about the type of all the ukraine has been fights and has been, puts an immense pressure on particularly the service people that it mobilized early in the world. lots of them have been, you know, fighting a war in the trends for 2 years. no, it's very difficult for them to get, you know, manpower, rotating in and out of that conflict which leads to fatigue. in addition, you know, rusher is proving that it has this in drawing capacity to continue to mobilize, continue to bring forces to that. and you know, again, overtime the arithmetic is really going to start counting. indeed it is as we speak . so i think it's absolutely funds that fundamental that more than anything you great insults is mountain power. she's just now going to be easy. so that was chris laura. so the university of portland, thank you so much. thank you. a look at the gaza, warren, our israel's military says it has taken full control of the strip of land that
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serves as a buffer zone between gaza and egypt. the 14 kilometer long philadelphia cord, or as part of a larger demilitarized zone along both sides of the cause of egypt border. meanwhile, israel has stepped up its operations in the southern gauze and city of rockland, the spines, international criticism over civilian casualties, and an order by the icy ga to hold all military activities their israel's national security adviser says the war and gaza is expected to go on at least until the end of the year and the white house has condemned the loss of life, of dozens of civilians as a result of and is really air strike and rough on the weekend. but washington says, it doesn't believe israel's offensive and gaza has violated president joe biden is declared red line for withholding future transfers of weapons to israel and secretary of state antony lincoln says that israel must outline, in any case it's strategy for bringing the war to an end or in the absence of the
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plans of the day after there won't be a day after a plan for the day after that does not leave israel responsible for gaza, which it says it does not want to be. but if it is, it will simply have an enduring insurgency on his hands. for as far as one can see into the future or not, if not from us will be left in charge, which is unacceptable. or if not, we'll have chaos, lawlessness and vacuum the eventually will be sold again by. i'm off for maybe something if it's possible. imagine even worse, and we cannot speak to laura blumenfeld. she's the middle east, alice, the new york times best selling author who joins us from washington, dc. welcome, laura. joe biden has said in the past that the full scale is really military operation and gaza would cross a red line. is there any clear evidence though, that such a red line really exists as well? you saw what happened today. i mean, the white house describes the latest unfortunate loss of silly eliza is heartbreaking,
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but not red line breaking. and i think it's anybody smudged that. let red line this week, it would be the i c j by allowing a little bit of ambiguity in their language. they talked about an incursion into a rafa. might they use the word might endanger the past air and israel with it's tom let it interpretation their lawyers quickly got busy saying that, you know, we won't cause a great loss of life or in this case they were talking about genocide and that left just enough ambiguity, we heard, you know, john kirby from the white house. they do not smash into the, the major population centers with the major ground offensive. and so these regular same were proceed. you know, with a scalpel, a lot of both saw me at the jake sullivan, the national security council advisor argued last week that there was no mathematical formula to assessing how big and id f operation is. so the scale will always be subjective. where do you see the administration actually drawing its
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lines as well? i think there are 2 important things for the administration, not only in terms of their relationship with israel and gods, or the companies but their, their position in the world. and the 1st thing is leadership, i mean, we are not a go it alone. nation. natania who said, if we have to fight alone, we will with our fingernails. but i didn't represent alliances, you know, decency versus revenge. so i think the most important thing is where we can maintain our leadership and our alliances with the less than with other, you know, friendly nations. you know, the 2nd most important thing is that we maintain our moral high ground. that's very important to us. how do you fight bad and stay good? and i think if we see that kind of erosion of the morality, i'm in the battle field and gaza, that's where we will draw the line. that's where we always have. and that's in a way also some of the lessons that we're trying to learn and, and mistakes we're trying to make up for, in terms of our behavior in iraq, afghanistan. but you know, saying that there is no real way to,
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to assess how big this is using words like the smashing into russell, which israel is probably not going to do because they know that the world is watching, is that not to get out of your obligations free car then away a no, i actually take that, although we're not watching. i think the united states actually has israel by the scruff of the neck right now. i mean, as i heard from your previous report about ukraine, in some sense, guns are the love language of america to other nations. and israel is heavily dependent on guns and weapons. you saw as again after this tragic fire and the tent encampment, palestinians, on sunday night, the israelites were put to point out that they use the smallest munitions available of 37 pound bomb. i'm sure that was because the united states was saying, you know, it's our guns, it's our ground rules. and so i think that even diplomatically at the un, i mean, now there is it going to be a un security council resolution to condemn and entered hall the incursion to rafa?
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i'm sure the united states is going to exact a price from israel if they are going to have stain or veto, actually think more likely was what israel is going to be looking for. and they're going to say to israel, okay, you know, maybe we'll give you that veto at the un, but let's see some flexibility on a hostage deal, which the united states really does see, is unlocking the whole mass and, and the key to keep moving forward or perhaps, you know, with a, we'd like to see those 350 trucks, which you promised us at least a 100 trucks coming in from the north. so i think there are ways that they're using their leverage is just behind the scenes. because israel is absolutely dependent united states at this point. yeah, this is an election here, and there are many people in the us that would like to see the bottom administration take a more robust stance towards israel. there's also people were saying that, you know, the administration is not doing enough to support as well in this. so i want to know from you is to what extent is jo biden's policy determined by those domestic political pressures?
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and is he always going to lose support whatever you got i mean, great point. the domestic pressure on him cuts both ways. in fact, one of those interesting demonstrations i saw on a college campus was where you had the pro palestinian protesters chanting and the counter protestors chanting the same thing which was asked by then i think for the president, the most important thing is not to look week week is kind of code for all right, because that's one of the biggest problems for him. he's got to show the sticking with is ally. we saw nikki haley who was potentially going to go into a trump administration over there in israel. you know, writing on a shell, an artillery shell it is was planning to use um you know finish them. so the good news provided however is finish them is letting hailey say now, but if you recall, donald trump said finish it. he doesn't want this where to go on either. i mean, as of now, it's kind of been a sloppy, slow and lowly kind of lowly kind of fight. and trump does not want to see that on
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his watch either. that's middle east analysts, laura blue, and felt thank you so much for sharing. your insights. was great talking to you. thank you. great to be here to columbia. and now we're congress has voted to to band bold fighting the band names . there are now on the 8 countries and the world horrible fighting is allowed, including those where the animal is in killed. lawmakers voted overwhelmingly by $93.00 votes to to, to phase out the practice by 2027 bull fighting is popular in one country with hundreds of events every year, each drawing thousands of spectators the lot or just the states to help find alternative employment for tens of thousands of people engaged in the business of, of 5. and we can go live now to columbia and brand or, and listen to i love i santiago, a centuries old tradition, but a highly controversial one in columbia. this is the end of the year is long
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campaign to end bull fighting wives. lawmakers agree, it's about it now. it was because it seems, is the end of this long journey for lawmakers. so let's say that the, it was the 4, the birds in the lower house of the department. where is this issue and it was taken today, as you said, the 93 volts and fiber 2 accounts. um, we have to say that the plus i've already at times debated today and both are because i have some members of the problem and try to leave the house and not get to to break decorum. but it was not possible this time. those were, were in favor of these a proposal of the, of the see a bill, a bad for the full fight. am they waiting fiber and they were my dirty. and that's why we have this story called this issue on their thinking and by the government. we have to say that the, the controversial discussion that started being the early ninety's, but never it clear to, to show was taken to e e in the by,
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in the apartment or even the columbia inside of the stuff has changed over the last 2 years. and that's why we are seeing the same decision today to forget to call this in our res difference. also the presence of mind activities is stronger at the mentality of the columbus health change as well. yeah, sometimes of the president, welcome to a decision he has to sign into law. he wrote on acts that those who enjoy the death of animals will end up enjoying the death of human beings. but not everyone sees it that way. what are the opponents of the band been saying as well, some of them gather together near some of the bulls are reading us across the country, especially in the biggest in the, in columbia, which is the board drinking bullet that last time about something about here. some of them were gathering there in order to process against this a new know i'm this a story called in moments for the country but the left side that they have like,
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uh, like, uh, a way to the lake to delay the implementation of this. and you know, because a, the session is what 2nd in the lower house of the parliament still has to go to the upper house of the parliament, the congress. and also a has to go to the presidential it sanction. so we will be seeing bull fighting for, for some time to come and columbia then. yes, according to their proposal, nicole, it varies uh, 3 years, 2 years, which i called you the 3 years of frustration. because as you said in the previous report, some of the people involved in these kind of industry echo due to the company just about 1000000 people, the voltages industry. we have to mention some, at all farmers, a breathing the bite full apples and also people in a bulky with this kind of a cool sort of industry. they have to change and find another way to support
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themselves economically. and it's not clear how the government is going to support them and how they are going to did this transition. what display are you say? the current a board rings are going to be transformed in a sport clips are being used in the next 3 years. and columbia isn't the only country a lot in america, turning its back on bull fighting. is it right now? yes, it is the only quote 3. discussing this stuff with the parliament ogden team. ambrose sealed by end table fight many, many years ago. the other countries a like mexico business where like whether i'm through, they are like you nam legally bolt. they have this cost about this in a, in the, they're far limits, but they haven't made a decision. mexico suburbia, specific case because, and each state, uh, i have to thank each eh, they own decision about the both sides. that's why we see 7 states,
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mexico that to consider these parts of the quotes around research and some others who binds or divide b. yeah, this low, is it motivated solely by a desire to end animal cruelty or also one to shake off, you know, vestiges of the colonial era. that's part of the debate you called because the arguments and, and coming from different ways in the, in the colombo society, from the governments, from the columbia society, and also far from the columbia and an email actives and all the arguments and the discussions and ideas come from different so it's like a mix. if you take a look digit proposal, it's frontier. there are different aspects and difficult to say the way columbia is trying to delete or erase parts of that colonial aspect. but we get from is fine. these colonial as in many, many centuries ago, as during less than half a lopez joining us from columbia. thank you so much. you're welcome,
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bye. and then iceland, a new volcanic fisher has opened up in the south west of the country. the region has seen 8 or options in the last 3 years. the kilometer long crack in the earth began spewing lama just hours ago today. on wednesday, the affected area is mostly unpopulated, but close to the famous blue look on spot and a major geothermal power plants believe is a rupture and comes as a blow to the residence of the fishing town of grinda. vague who have not been allowed to return to their home since december when lava began to encroach on the town. and that's our time. thank you so much for a company by the
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