the the, this is dw dues live it from berlin. tonight, the head of nato, once the guard rails removed for ukraine against owenberg says, ukraine should be allowed to use western weapons to strike inside russia. we'll take a look at why keats biggest backers are holding some want back. also coming out. guilty verdicts for 14 hong kong pro democracy activists. tonight we ask, what does this mean for the future of the opposition movement there? and south africa, all the break of political change, the party that rule the country since the end of the part. so i may soon have to share power the

i bridge jobs, our viewers watching on p b. s. in the united states. and to all of you around the world. welcome, we begin to this thursday with nato foreign ministers meeting in prague, military aid for ukraine on the agenda. on friday, the alliance has ministers for debate. a new military aid package for ukrainian would provide at least $40000000000.00 euros or more for every year. it'd be decided by native leaders during a summit. and once again, this july, as thieves, biggest backer, united states is facing increasing pressure from allies over restrictions that prevent ukraine from using us weapons to strike targets inside russia. well, the head of the meeting, they the secretary general, you in stone. brag said that it is time for need are members to reconsider those restrictions. i believe that's the time has called me to consider some of these

restrictions to enable their pregnant. so really defend themselves and restaurant in for either the content they, the ukraine on ukraine. the hoss, according to international law, the right to defend themselves, isn't showing the new instructor. on the rock for self defense includes also, striking military targets of judgment. printer targets, outside ukraine was the head of native bear. the foreign minister of lafayette is also at this data meeting. she explained like the a stance on how it's weapons can be used by ukraine along with how other data members have discussed weapons restrictions. douglas, actually this question is not on the table for the ministers. it's each country's individual question that's not took alyssa, why discussion? but we have had exchanges was in natal when i still worked for my to over the shortly off as a start of the war when it was clear. so to create and will be fighting. and the

serve will be a link to your periods of all. so that's what, that's what countries can supply, what kind of supply will be coming party to see, to the war. and it was very clear consensus among variety of factors that ukraine's right of self defense, which is under un chucker of the closest one, includes, is the ability to strike legitimate number 3 targets on the russian transfer from which it's very likely is that russia will be attacking or is already attracting or, you know, and they brings of, or until, and so forth. so that was, that was a whole sort of discussion because it was important for the allies to understand that they will not become part. it doesn't work. so that, that's all being discuss further. it's a disco, it's a decision for each individual. so as far as a lot of is concerned, we have never ever put any restrictions on the weapons. we support the federal

crime because we are not public this award. so we are an important source international. so very clearly we are comfortable with some, there is a whole set of other countries will have says that the loads, the countries who have not said anything, the terminal enforced restrictions. so, you know, it's, it's a reality, or will it be just a matter of time? del, before the us and other reluctant data members change their stance. i put the question to our brussels bureau chief alexander phenomena. she's in product and i of the world's friend, i think that the pressure is certainly growing on allies to agree on that. we heard from you in stalls and back and i think his position and the position of his staff at nato headquarters is very clear on that that ukraine has every rides to defend itself. and that it also includes attacking legitimate military targets

on the russian territory. and so we heard from you and still from the quite a, quite a passion of fleet. he argued that it cannot be, that the russian troops are sitting just across the border. so actually on the front lines and there are launching their attacks from that point. and still from their military base is there an ukraine is not allowed to use western made long rage weapons to attack those positions. however, we also have to say that he is urging allies to reconsider the limitation restrictions, but need to is not providing weapons to ukraine. it is up to individual allies to decide what kind of weapons to are providing and whether there are any restrictions on the use of those weapons. and there are some members of the alliance. first and foremost, of course, the u. s. and germany who are very skeptical when we talk about the usage of the

west and made a weapon senior queen. yeah, we, we have heard that from the us president from the german chancellor. the that we don't want to do anything that would escalate this conflict. so what about that risk of being brochure has made it clear how it views arms that strike its territory as a toto escalation. that is what the kremlin is saying. the kremlin is a threatening the west at that the conflict could escalate. and of course, there is a real risk for germany, but also for other allies, especially for the you as they don't wants to be dragged into a direct conflict with russia. however, we also have to say that over the course of this war in the last 3 years, we have seen that the individual allies change their strategy and kind of a did, they were willing to provide it to ukraine. we had the discussion about western mates, tangs, they were then provided to ukraine. we had the discussion about whether it is okay

to provide you queen with of $165.00 to jets. now you play in pilots are being trained on those of fi to jets and they will be provided to train. so we cannot rule out that the defense of some still skeptical allies with regards to the questions. uh, what kind of a tax ukraine at ukraine can use the wisdom made weapons for that they also can change their stance on that question. the use alexander of a number and with that beautiful scar line there in prague behind you. alexandra, thank you. thank you. well, the chords in hong kong is found 14 pro democracy, active is guilty of subversion. it's the biggest trial of its kind since trying to imposed a new security law and the territory back in 2020. that law critics say a bit stifling the said australia in the united states or among the countries that

have criticize today's verdicts, calling them politically motivated, they've also called for the defendants to be released as a prison in san jose, up to home cones, west count lou lou quotes outside people que patiently to enter the fate of 16 pro democracy activists in the hands of hong kong legal system. we've been waiting for this day for over 3 years. i feel very sad that so many people have been locked up for so long. the case centers on an unofficial election that was held in 2020 officials said it was a threat to the government. the joshua was among the 47 pro democracy activists arrested. they were charged with conspiracy to commit some fashion under a national security law and post by china that no had been introduced following

protests, which so tens of thousands take to the streets to defend democracy. trying to set the law was needed to restore stability. the critics say it's been used to cross political physician on 1st day, only 2 of 16 defendants were acquitted of sebastian. the other 14 were found guilty, a point not lost on lawrence. now i should not be the focus for today. i hope everyone will continue caring for our other friends. in the case. these men may be free for now, but the prosecution has already launched in a panic and that real quick polls the floating guilty budgets, meanwhile, have a good many in hong kong and outside. but the chinese foreign ministry has he,

childhood international criticism during the week completely oppose any interference in china's internal affairs by individual countries. on the basis of current legal cases. and any attempts to describe it and undermine the rule of law in hong kong for quite some time the of the search he won, defendants have already pleaded guilty. meaning, oh, but 2 of the 47 people arrested 3 years ago. good faith lives in jail. in a joint nail from washington, dc by sunny jones, he was one of the nominees in the 2020 primaries and he's also i understand a close ally to joshua wong. and he tells me that he just managed to flee before the mass arrest took place in hong kong. so i think it's good to have you on the program, but i wanted to start by asking you what went through your mind today. when you

heard about this, the court's decision. today it is difficult um, just bear with difficult to see a witness manufacturer of mine including joshua uh now behind the ball and on this very tough to see that the visual 40 and hold on for r t a. so determined um to uh, to what pops the whole pool democracy camp. and i think this is a very unfair trial. and just so many interests tests can be found during the shops . i spoke with joshua long, several years ago when he was traveling through europe. he was trying to lobby for more support from europe for the opposition's calls in hong kong. i remember asking him why don't you leave hong kong while you're still able to isn't your freedom more important to you? and he said he couldn't do that. that he was gonna change the system. you made

a different decision, didn't you? yes, i made a very different into that decision. and now i'm an exile living in the united states. i think this is a fairly, a tough life decision saying, i mean, that depends on each individual calculation. and for me, i think i also, i mean i, i understand that the trial is going to happen and the credit on is going to happen . and then there's no fair and open and trust and tribes in front of us. so i make up my mind and then try to leave and try to enjoy the freedom in another country to continue advocacy fall in. i think people will understand both what you've done and what joshua decided to do, but on the outside it can look maybe that like joshua was not he and was not

realistic about the reach and the power of beijing in trying to rain in hong kong is that a fair assessment, he because he told me that he was going to change the system i think this is a very not fair document and column that 1st of all, i think we have to respect of each individual choices, right? i mean, there's no back end, right? there's this has nothing to look a science when we talk about a strong opponent like b, g to try to like, crash you. so what do you see what decision to be made for? i mean that in full some of the calculation including how realistic of your future annual family you'll be left of one and i think for people like to shop and should be life. and courtney poll many people who chose to stay in hong kong. i think they actually the other one for us, so courageous is because they do, of course,

the anticipate there will be consequences and political a persecution. they know that, but they do choose to stay is because they want to of so determination political will. and then also to tell the home people and vision will forward to that they would advocate and i think they are fairly successful in this way. and we should really remember the names. what does the future for the opposition movement in hancock? what does that future look like now? it's going to be tough. i mean, i sat, right? i mean because also this friday and before this product, we have the national spiritual. we have the article $23.00, which is a lot of have a controversial security role that helped to dismantle the political freedom to hold on. people once had the right i that you asked me whether or not i would anticipate. there will be like my scale most button in homes on the street in the

near future. i think the answer is no. right? however, i will say hong kong people, what gets up because there's too many ways for them. like i mean underground, also for full full full of assessed to sustain and maintain the momentum. i tried to lift the whole of identity to use muscle to contact the beach and narrative. so now i've got one more question before you run other time. you're in the united states. do you think that the west has done enough or did enough to support the opposition movement in hong kong and we could, could, could today have been a completely different day, had the west done more um, i think, i think so. if we were lot wrong about china decades ago, if we could really see it and the real nature of the chinese communist party,

that especially after the wife of children p and that we should. and we should be able to understand that china, he's hotly, you'll ally and we should try everything we can um to, to the risk from china. and also try to limit our assets to china and not allow in china to take hold of us are the countries strategic assets and supply chain, for example. right. i mean, not just like many european countries. so if you ask me yes, i think there's lots of things to be done. i mean, to have phone call and to contain china, you know, normally for democracy, active is sunny chain. joining us tonight from washington dc send it, we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us. we appreciate you being so candid with us, and we certainly wish you all the best thing ever so much. i to the president of the philippines ferdinand marcus junior will deliver the keynote

speech at the start of what's known as the shang reload dialogue on friday and tensions in the south china sea. they are expected to play a big role in this speech. so 3 trillion us dollars a trade passed through these disputed waters each year. but they've become the side of escalating tensions between beijing and menu. and the dispute at south china sea filipinos civilian flotilla is shadowed by the chinese coast, gone. its mission to deliver supplies to filipino system in new scarborough. so the activists group is called this is ours, which volunteers have written in tagalog on the boys that floating here that of the $100.00 vessels that set off and only a handful reached their destination. many turned back after being followed by larger chinese coast gunk ships. the stand off is one of the number of maritime

incidents that have started the tensions between manila and beijing. feel a rival claims to a number of locations in the waters west of the philippines. the leaders the scarborough sol, is one of the disputed areas. its photo fishing grounds full within the philippines, exclusive economic sun, which he can see and yellow here. but they're also within china. so cold, 9 dash line in china claims the area within the spine to 2016 international court ruling. it had no legal basis to do so. they jane has dismissed the philippines civilian mission as a publicity stunt. but also it keeps money less frequently aggravating tensions in the south china sea just seems, or if the philippine side is bent on having its own way, well, what china will take the necessary measures? routes of firmly defend gets rid of it,

right on your end to interest. do you find made such a donkey tree since those comments tensions have risen even further in the region with aging. launching, who games around the philippines know the neighbors, taiwan. so i think the defense ministry and ty pay royce has reported the chinese will. plants also flew into the bashi channel, which separates taiwan and the philippines. manila didn't directly address paging. slate just move is about at a navy cetera. many last week, the philippine defense secretary said his country was committed to defending its territorial interests. we will train more realistically, bear with me more money, buying for a family peace between us and like minded nations, mark paintings and ideals. more and better all the exercises in moving

also our significant 3rd parts. in early may, manila already staged launch scale will drills with its mutual defense tray to ally the united states. it involves more than $16000.00 military personnel and infuriated staging. i will say last week the philippine coast gone to announce the opening of new security outpost on a found northern island. a stated response to china military build up in the a tie one over the past 2 years. and a way to come to threats including quite foreign intrusions. here's a quick look down some of the other stories that are making headlines around the world. the jury and former us president donald trump's harsh money to islands, continued its deliberations for a 2nd date troubles accused of falsifying business records in connection with payments made to an adult film actress to prevent her from speaking publicly about

into alleged sexual affair between the if found guilty truck could face up to 4 years in prison. thousands turned out in jerusalem for the annual eligibility cube, fried march. the event is usually a mix of but politics and partying, but to come to more somber aspect this year. i mean the conflict between israel and tomas and gaza, the eligibility community dedicated to march 2 calls for the release of hostages, still being held by a box. so yeah, so they need is a prime minister roberts golub says that his government is set to recognize palestinian statehood that will make it the latest european country to do the following. ireland, norway, in spain, most un members recognize the state of palestine in some form, but few western countries. i've taken that step early results from the south african election showed that the african national congress

is on course to lose its majority partial results show. the amc is still in the lead with about 43 percent of the votes followed by the democratic alliance party, was about 25 percent. if the a and c fails to win at least 50 percent of the national vote, it may be forced into sharing power for the 1st time since the end of apartheid in 1994. the amc has ruled south africa. i'm challenged since then. it is now led by presidency of over i'm a whole so the final result to the election expected by sunday. but here's what the 1st deputy secretary general of the african national congress. here's what she had to say about the results so far. it was the width of 5, and that that was as, as indicated that whatever that was predicted, it has been proven problem. we are way above what was predicted. is it possible that percentage of the nc saved for the latest?

if i add the valves we asked in at the city full percent, and you do believe that once all of the stations of all of those i've, i've submitted, then the in c capital flip and met with a report that's how the agency sees it for now i asked our corresponded diane hawker in johannesburg of south africa is facing a seismic power shift. it really can be considered a seismic shift if you see, look at with the amc comes from in previous evictions. in the 2019 election, the parties ended at 57 percent. and in previous elections it was well above 60 percent. and for the party at this stage to be at the moment less than 50 percent. i think it is going to need the ac need is to make some serious reflections on what is leads to this sort of a change in voltage sentiments from the people that we've been speaking to in the

months running up to the selection. and even yesterday, those were voting, there was a sense that south africans would tie it with a number of things that they've been seeing going on. for example, corruption has been a major concern for many of the voters. young voters in particular, were very frustrated and continued to be very frustrated about the ongoing jobs crisis that's linked to an economic crisis. and when we spoke to those were standing in the queue. many of them was saying that they needed to see change and that they were taking the selection as the opportunity for them to make sure that that change happens. and on the boards that you see behind me, we seeing the results of those sentiments from different parts of the country. the boards are reflecting the national results thus far, as well as the provincial results. and those tallies that are showing that the agency at this point has not yet reached that 50 percent mark. and if we assume that the agency does emerge as the biggest party, but that doesn't have

a majority which party who will be the most likely coalition partner for the is at this stage is very difficult to say because even the amc leaders are a bit reluctant to speak about coalitions, they are a painting the picture of confidence. i'm saying that they'll only start talking about coalition partners later on in the game. but what we do know is that you don't have the political parties such as the economic freedom fighters. they've said that they wouldn't be completely opposed to a coalition with the amc as long as they could reach an agreement on some policy issues. there's also the m k party, which is a recent addition to sub african politics. it's lead by for most of african presidents, jacob, sue my and they also fall, looked like they will get a decent amount of boats at the moment. they sitting at about 9 percent of the

overall votes. and the is some speculation that there is a possibility that the agency could look to the m k parties for that um, for those coalition tools. but of course, it all comes down to a docking for 4 positions. and with these parties will be able to read all the important policy issues for the next 5 years. ok corresponded volume hawker in janice berg of this night. this time of election results watched by a thank as as a sports news. now the champions link trophy has arrived in london, the head of the sound of the spinal. it was the german cyber. we see darkman face explains real madrid, former chelsea star john a be me kel, showed off the silverware defends that trivago square london mayor. so the con, hoping that the fans on their $1.00 to $5.00 across the city support as both teams have also started to arrive in the british capital,

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