see a wide spread races, depression, today, the street, the people we need to talk about here. the stories, shadows of german colonialism is europe on the verge of a major shift? well, supporters of vladimir putin and friends of china soon have more power in the european parliament. according to polls a head of the european elections, right wing populous and nationalists are attracting more voters. but europe so far right, is also seeing divisions between the alternative for germany, a of d and the french national rally party, around some of the independent out stream. do you voters want the union to be? what alliances are being forged? pulls it off on that line. conservative president of the commission is openly courting the votes of the italian head of government. george, i'm alone each and her ultra arrives so that they lead the young. on to a point,

we ask europe's far act attempting partners working service the welcome to this week's to the point. i'm how you, how to get us. it's good to have you with us. and let's meet 2 days guests that he lives now is a new berlin correspondent for germany's thoughts and focus specialized in east german politics and the the party which i like to now is dw news chief political editor and book out bill is a freelance journalist. he has previously worked as a correspondent in paris and brussels solve. you're welcome. thank you for being with us. and i'd like to start with you book and to all of europe, seeing a shift towards the riots, even countries that have a tradition of liberal politics like sweden or than other ones, are seeing extreme right wing politicians and their governments. what the traditional parties do wrong, what it seems that the traditional parties did not attend the needs of the

preoccupation of the citizens. like the question of migration, i mean that the flows come that this some countries like italy agrees which were just overflowing due to the dublin agreement that used to rain in the yeah, your opinion. secondly, i think that's just the inside thing, which we see in many of the governments, for instance, in germany, a dollar, a famous coalition between liberals, queens and social democrats is leading to the point that the people just get desperate. they don't want the people to fight at the top that govern the bodies to fight, but to act and we have inflation. we have pandemic, we have the war and ukraine. and these are needs that really people are looking for direction for a strong hand. and this is why we see a movement also to more or to retire and isn't. and har tend to rules. and i think this explains some of it that also the european union cannot answer the basic

questions. it has not been reformed, has not the big as my crime has always proposed and wanted to do. and so the people few left alone and got turned to national to stick. i'll feel this big party. we're definitely seeing that on a national level, the question is if that's also going to happen on the e, you level and nadine, how much power do these political parties have to actually change you politics at the moment? while i think until now they are divided into 2 fractions or 2 groups within the european parliament. this is the id, the identity and democracy. and on the other hand, the e come out of the european conservatives and reforms so on. so no, they haven't really joined forces yet, and it will be very interesting to see what happens after the 9th of june after they are up in election to see if they will join forces if they will find new park most may be within the conservative and it will there be like one shoot, right drink. so the group within the european parliament,

i think then they can really change the politics and brussels. if they fail to phone that in a core listen, i think they will stay fragmented. but on the other hand, the point is, the shift to the right within germany, within other countries, within the economy, ignored by the conservatives, also maybe by the social democrats, but all the parties who rule within the u. the u commission. so i think there will be changes in the politics even though, right. when politicians are not really impala, but they were producing invisible change and definitely more pressure towards the traditional parties. nobody's. i live in germany these days. it seems like you are exposed to up on bergmann of political ad saying this election is crucial. this election is important. we go vote, it matters. what do you think makes it different from previous you elections? well, elections always crucial, but clearly we all see what could be

a potential force or said moment of the right and the extreme right actually playing allowed to role in brussels. when you see old enough on the line who's the top candidates for the p. p for the conservative centers, conservative and book, it really vying for support from someone like george and bologna, who is as actually mazda of the game of being a fall vice at home. but actually being a surprisingly pro european politician once she's in brussels and that is in itself a change in the way brussels works in the way european politics works. so the question is whether the fall rights can actually become a main stream full stack can no longer be seen as exactly that. the small fragment fragment at the end of the spectrum of what is mainstream politics. and that will ultimately depends on the voters. if we take a deeper look at germany, voters of the far right party seem to be very resilient steel. turner for germany,

has been monitored by the federal office of for of the process of protection of the constitution. for years, the german domestic intelligence service classified the party as a so called suspected case of white wing extremism. and rightly so, as a chord confirmed a few weeks before the european elections. it's one of just many scandals. here's a look at the parties leading figures. beer and hooker is the a of these leader in the german state of turing. yeah. where he's spending a radical nationalist ideology that some have called fascist inmate. a court imposed a fine on the former history teacher for knowingly using a band nazi slogan. maximilian call is the a of these top candidate for the european elections. one of his employees allegedly spied for china horse spies are a problem. cross has also been accused of accepting money from russia and the chinese secret service, which he denies. in one interview call claims,

but not all members of the s s were criminal of sparking international outrage. attributes from is number 2 on the 8 of these european election list. he is also currently under investigation for allegedly accepting money from russia to promote pro russian propaganda, which he also denies is the a of the $2.00 extreme for europe's rate when populist were about to see not even if the supporters dismiss all those allegations as nothing short of a media conspiracy to damage the party ahead of the elections. how significant are those revelations? well, this will be an interesting point to see on the 9th of june, because until now we don't see really, how can i say a tumbling in acceptance within their vote? does we see them bit like 17 percent, which is a huge class compared to the 11 percent the sd had in the 2009 thinking you

election. so still more people are supporting the f d. i think we have 2 points that are really important. well, on the one hand a, the support us have a huge skepticism about traditional or established media. they don't really trust what they hear and see with the media. and on the other hand, i think there's like a strong what evasion to vote, a d to show some disrespect against the leads i think to vote for a d as an elite vote. and i think this motivation is stronger than a then the skepticism about the scandals and sometimes a of d offers. they support us some rhetoric regarding oh, also. but then the other part is they also have the scandals. phone deadline has some investigations where there's kept a gauge within the u parliament, which comes through the social democrats. so i think they have some reports to defend themselves and their support is believe them. they definitely do it. however,

even though the party is acting as if nothing is happening and more or less, and we say that it does have an impact, is this a big problem for the if the, internally, all these scans that are going on? i tell you what of what i see is the biggest problem is that it's not even the pets . good afternoon, so yeah, we have just come to the save uh, meeting of nathan or foreign ministers, or discussions. so focused on our support for ukraine. we all want to stop this war, but the part of the works is that the breath, the we prepared for the loan, whole, the sooner the war kind restaurant must understand that this kind of wait those out . no final decisions were made today about. so we made significant progress on the issues the 1st night. those plans to play

a greater coordinating role in the position of equipment on the training practically old military aid to claim 99 percent comes from nato allies. so it makes sense that nato should play a greater role in these efforts. this will enable us to use the nature of structures to put the support on the firm or something. provide more flexibility to keith. and the address both mediates on the longer term needs. secondly, i have proposed of allies commit to a multi year financial pledge for ukraine. since restaurants, full scale invasion in 2022, i'll also have provided approximately 40000000000 euros. russ, so me to target support to crane each year. we must maintain at least

this level of support each year for as long as necessary. i will also proposed that's how i should share this burden excessively. this will improve accountability . i'm giving you a crane, the predictability, the need to plan for a long term. finally, we discussed ukraine's pause to nate thought membership allows agree that they are trans future, it's in they thought we are determined to make progress insulting. this pulse membership will be up, will be your friends ultimate security guarantee. it will ensure lost in peace on provide disability needed for reconstruction. let me add this on. i'll add support on the questionnaire escalation. a

rough shot stop to this war. they next caught me off in 2022. i mean 2020 the and they told me on 2014 uninterrupted, 22 gross sales, full scale invasion of ukraine began the boldest conflict in europe since world war 2. russia is striking hospitals. schools on shopping molds. russia is bumping power or water infrastructure. restaurant is killing ukrainian civilians. ukraine is defending itself from a polling russian brutality. so let me be clear. health defense is not escalation. self defense is the for the monthly right.

it isn't strange and then you, instructor ukraine has the rights on the responsibility to protect its people. and we have the right to help ukraine. a poll, it's right themselves. defense of course, restaurant doesn't like this. at every stage of this war. russia has complained that and on the same breath tooth, and wanted to the turn nato allies from supporting ukraine. but we are not on the we will not be the 3rd rush shock. this. the one attacking restaurant is to them escalating most recently, but opening a new front in the productivity engine. i mean waves on you strikes when you're creating and citizens us, the war. hows of old or support how's of old will continue to evolve. you

are welcome. the bylaws are providing many different types of assistance, not the night. the summit will put natal support on the firmer for thing for it on whole thank you secretary general. i'll start with bloomberg. andrea well we'll speaking about only for the future, and that's part of the commission fresh. we have all of you spent roughly $40000000000.00 per year. so far. hold on all scale us to do is to commit that for the full of years. that's new money. because that's one of which is not that they're not on the, on the, on the, on the important thing is that we need to take the basic we need a firm commitment for the goal to ensure that ukraine is able to plan,

to ensure that ukraine positive to the, the ability they need to conduct as was self defense, but also to send the message from a school that must go cannot wait till sounds. so then more clear it is that we are prepared for the whole the soon that it's worth a moment. because assume they're pressed and put to realize that they cannot win this war. we will be there for as long as necessary. but then just before we continue that they're also like to thank the the tech support this the tech government on the, the, for me this, the, for hosting this event of the, for the minister at all has been excellence on the surroundings the see to probably the causal has been excellent then you for a very important to for me, is there anything in it? okay, thank you. oh, check tv. they

dollars agree that your credit will become a member of the alliance. we are working on how to move your train closer to membership. at the summit we agreed important steps. we to move the requirements for something called membership actions on meaning that the return to the membership process for your trade from a 2 step process through one step process. and we also agree the comprehensive package for interoperability to ensure that ukraine comes closer to naples standards, doctrines, on the, on the full integral ability with an april. then i hope that the summit in uh, in uh, worsting we can take further steps and also believe strongly that so um, the fact that we will most likely establish emission,

providing or stronger for furniture for providing support to claim that was to help to move you can close to 2 to membership and of course anything we do together with you can help them to control such a membership. and so all of us agree that you can should be a member about the timing of the invitation depends on one that will be a consensus on one of the conditions on it. thank you. uh that the panels. thank you. i don't see it yesterday by or decision yesterday, by the us, germany and maybe some other allies about possibly striking international retaliatory strikes into russia. seems to be the latest example of natal members coming around to a position the ukraine and some allies have been begging for, for a long time off in less than what you can watch, but actually relenting over the past day. has there been any discussion or is there

any ongoing discussion about trying to get more ahead on some of these tactics and enabling ukraine to, to do more to actually pursue the strategy that you've outlined? thank you. ok, this war has a volt naples support has evolved on our welcome. not all eyes are using restrictions on the use. so what happens? we need to remember what this is. this is a war. aggression versus a tech ukraine. new crane has the right of self defense. the right to self defense includes also the striking, legitimate mentor targets in restaurant on the the fact that your show has an awesome new offensive that they have escalated the war by opening a new a front in the north, trying to move towards the highest, able to into the division a demo. so it's, that's

a one day in our texting ukraine from inside russia and you'll decide the border with the one on the borderline on the front on this more that's the same. then of course, the only way to attack a bill behind enemy lines is also then to attack into russian a district into russian territory. almost are providing support in different ways. so my laws having every impulse and the restrictions, although not laws of east there restrictions, we just need to be a vigilant we need to, to, to adopt unable our support as the war a goals. and of course we this, these issues in the meeting and today, and we'll continue to coordinate that goal. se, uh, that's also one of the reasons why i believe it will be helpful to have a stronger nature coordination on the long term financial attached. and along with on what all have proposed. okay, so let's thomas over there over there. yep. thank you. thanks a lot of course,

girlfriend for documented sites on him. secretary general again, 2 questions on the my 2 year pledge. so do i understand you correctly that you no longer called for allies to make commitments for the time after the war? because of course, to 40000000000 refers to war time, contributions. and secondly, when you say that the burden should be spread equitably among allies, are you referring to the nato spending t, so contributions to common costs at nato. thank you. so we will not start the work on the details of such a financial plan and there's no way i can go into all the details before i present the them to drill down laws on. therefore, we have worked through adults these days, but i strongly believe that we need the financial place. both street address immediate needs,

but also to address the need to build the future force. so this is about making your cravings able to defend themselves today and to deter future effects in the future. so it's a combination of 4 term long term. and of course, many of the things we do now as immediate responses to the immediate need. so for instance, providing f sixteens is part of the me, this a response. the media needs for your brain to defend themselves today. but of course, many of those get picked. this will also be part of the future force to deter an attack in the future. so i think this distinction between the future force and the needs today is, is this a bit to artificial? these things are linked on. therefore, i think also it makes sense that need to place in role both in building the future force and coordinate them. the support for helping to you can use to, to deter aggression. it will do to defend aggression at today and then up then

again the parents on board. i'm sure he's gonna have to come back to that about the . busy of course, the g d p has been used before g d p is a, is a right the flex and with different let me explain the income of each and every country. so when we discuss partners and a thoughts up is the one option we comes up into, i'm, but again, i can be more precise or they thrown in this process. and at the summit i expect to be able to tell you all of the this. oh, okay, thank you. uh, over to new york times. uh hi, secretary general edward one from the new york times. um, earlier in the war. uh, one of the main reasons why restrictions replacing the us on the use of weapons 5 years, ally countries was because of the fear of that present put in with order the use of a tactical nuclear weapon in the battlefield. and ukraine. i'm wondering what has changed in that assessment? do you have new intelligence that shows that the threshold is higher than your previously believe? do you think that the allied countries made

a mistake earlier in being too fearful of this? and has that is have china in india exercise influence a couldn't since then i think we need to understand that these are national decisions. are different allies have provided different types of support and minneapolis, hamilton post and the restrictions. so that's nothing you need to analyze, don't have restrictions, they give the weapons to ukraine. and of course, they all assume that there will be used as a and along with international law, but martial a. so it opens up for the use against the i mean to targets in, in the restaurant because that's part of self defense. and then open all eyes. how has a more evictions bought? but so this was 6 is on the east or reduced, reflecting that the well, the, the,

that the water has changed. because now the front on this, both inside ukraine, most of the fighting so far happened. those are deep inside that ukraine and all the fine thing is in the car could reach and on the border between restaurant on the, on the, on your brain. and then it makes sense also then to adopt and the restrictions that would make it impossible for ukrainians to heat back against activity positions. and these are positions that inertial volumes detecting a ukrainian forces or ukrainian a cities put in prison. fulton hoss, tristan, a dollar since the beginning of the war. he has been out there again and again, actually the day before the invasion had gave his speech with any, all of that provided supported through grain. but we are not being deterred. because if we had been deterred but the message then we could have again,

given any support, he turns on tons of rentals from giving any admin side support. they tried to print this from providing armour advanced. miss our systems a fight the jets. and we have a bold step step out of support because we strongly believe that they're creating costs throughout this for several of the funds. and we have the right to help to claim a bullying and there ought to something. okay, thank you. and your opinion, profit of you. oh, thank you. you are being probably a green. i have a question about this love don't support. we know that so much. okay, so we'll leave a coverage that will say at the nato secretary general jens spelt him both taking questions after his press conference, where he outlined 3 major decisions that coming out of the amazing and major foreign ministers in prague. and they do have plans to pay a great to a coordinating role in the provision of equipment and training to ukraine. allies

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