was unprecedented international support, the plan getting the green light from the un security council. on monday, it was up to home us, which had been sending signals that were promising until they worked in the past 24 hours from mazda is proposed changes to the plan. some that the us secretary of state today labeled unacceptable 9 months into this for both sides of where they've always been. far apart. i bridge off in berlin. this is the day. the late last night we got word that her mom had given their official response from us as well as numerous change to the proposal that was on the table. the behavior of fault plus spots is different. the differential pages being the utah account for executive to, to the f ones or must stop

one side saying it will not enter into a deal with a permanent safe by the other side saying only so we still have that gap and you know, squared one is what will remain until that gap is also coming up of ways turned into weapons. north korea has launched a 1000 balloons filled with trash and things that people normally flush away. it good south korean government and military in a very difficult position because they cannot shoot it down because of the risk of even further damage. and so, so, so, so, so, so far as the korean government have to basically just wait and pick them up when they land you know, to our viewers watching on tv as in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin today with the question, are we any closer to a ceasefire in concept?

according to the us secretary of state, the answer is yes. and only one thing is standing in the way the militant group, hamas i'm oss, which is regarded by many countries as a terrorist organization. reportedly reacted positively to the proposal backed by the us for a truce. but now it's asking for changes. many of those changes blinking says, are a no go. the secretary of state is entire to drum up support for the initiative. aside from what tomas wants to amend this plan has still not received a clear public endorsement from israel. this stands in stark contrast to the un security council. on monday, the counsel endorsed the plan calling on both israel and come off to enact it immediately with no conditions. when tonight, the world is still waiting for that to happen. here's a primer on what the plan that for now has unprecedented international support would call for. let's take a look at it gets made up of 3 phases. the 1st phase would include the release of

some hostages, the return to palestinian prisoners and partial troop withdrawal. all of this under a 6 week truce. the 2nd phase includes a permanent ceasefire, and now that would be the for withdrawal of israeli forces from the gaza strip. the 3rd phase would focus on a plan to rebuild, gone to well blinking, have said that some of the challenge of proposals from home oss are unacceptable. we still have no information on what those amendments call for. here's more now from anthony blinking to the entire world. almost without fail has been behind this proposal and we've heard it again and again and again. so we were waiting on one response and that was the response from us. and as the prime minister said last night, we received a response from us has proposed numerous changes to the proposal that was on the

table. we discussed those changes last night with different colleagues. and today with the prime minister. some of the changes are workable. some are not joined now by jonathan independent. coffee is one of the leading middle east analyst at the atlantic council. that's a us based global affairs. think st. jonathan is good to have you back on the show when you and i spoke 24 hours ago. you were cautious about what seemed to be growing optimism that this plan would be the plan leading to piece. i'd say it's very prescient of you mos hasn't signed on and it wants the plans changed. what do you say about what's happening? thanks for having me back. thrilled to be with you. look, i think it's a challenge and i think there's not a lot of surprise for everybody is all of us are the europeans that this was the response. this was the yes box. and the question is, how big is the box?

so is this a poison pill? which would mean the last isn't really looking for this to end up included in this deal. and so what these put back in the state for per, are saw extreme. the thing though is i want to agree to it, or is it going to be a 2nd? i don't, can said just opening negotiating position stuff that solved the changes are workable and might be able to be accepted. and some of them are just not. but some of them are ultimately with them drop. i think it's a little too early still to say, but i wouldn't expect israel to sign off or even agree to anything. that's a modest mixed. the 1st move it makes clear what they really want except yeah let, let's consider for a moment the decision making process with in how mos you told me yesterday that everything the group agrees to what rejects depends on the guns are based on loss leader. yeah, yeah. send warm, what makes this man who does not take part in any negotiations because he is hiding somewhere and gods have what makes him the only important decision make. so sooner

is the mastermind behind the october 7th attack. he is the political leader in gaza, but ultimately has control of the v is as well. the reality is that some of the leaders sitting in the national don't actually have the ability to control or come in the brigade to the terrace, either from us to make a decision to agree with the deal or not agree to a deal assume or does a mazda, as a terrorist organization, as a whole, has a variety of factions, the political faction. and though i just mentioned the political faction in guys faction that's really there and signed up to the boss simply to be able to work and to be able to get money and living expenses. and then a fashion that's incredibly militant, that is the group getting it. and the ones that carried out the october 7th attack

a civil are the only one that can actually have authority over all of them. and so at the end of the day, the what everybody else wants is going to be just decision. yeah, yeah. i mean, we often think of how much is being this one big monolith. i'm wondering, is there a dispute within him also about the future course? or is everyone without exception behinds in more? you know, i don't think everybody's be assigned to him. i just think a lot of people don't have sufficient wouldn't say is, was the 2 opposing sufficient influence to oppose and why? so i think there's actually a number of splits and a number of other logical splits within the group number of differences in terms of preferences on what different meters if they were in his position might do. but the truth of the matter is she has control. now, if she were to be killed by these realities were fascinated, then it might open up space. ironically it could change things as you know, different meters battling. but right now he's gonna have to charge anthony blinking

to said today that the present agreement that's on the table is virtually identical to a proposal that tomas put forward itself over a month ago. but today they come back and make further demands. i mean, this sounds like it looks like a delay tactic. how is that new come off is interest or where you are right? it is, and obviously some of that will depend on what are and if they're about the time table, then it really is showing that somebody has an interest that we have very clear forwarding now. um from another outlet of soon was comments about frankly using the palestinian people that were civilians who died. it's also the ultimately beneficial for from our propaganda. i was thinking they had us, the forms are seeing the impact of that and that come to life, that the focus is on the groups and focuses on send war himself and the survival.

and so for the gauge, it makes sense because if there's a resolution to the conflict with the concept, the ends, at least i should say, well, then see more power was probably going to be the minutes is not gonna be a mazda reading, gaza right now, though, the opposite seems to be true, as i say, he's delaying and that keeps him as the person in the drivers. yeah. and you know what you're talking about this report, the wall street journal. they, they published lead messages from seeing more of which in which he calls the deaths of palestinian civilians necessary sacrifices. and he says, quote, we have these railings right where we want them. so yeah, that doesn't sound like a leader. if you wants to cease fire deal, what ask you about guitar guitar has been conducting these, these fire negotiations for months. now. the guitar, a prime minister, described the process today is frustrating. what would happen if guitar gave up its role is mediator as well. my guess is what the problem we have is the ship's in

stepping back in. but we saw a couple weeks ago that didn't go so well. the last round of negotiations ended largely because the contentions that egypt was not negotiating as a mediator perhaps in the best for it was given different drafts to the israel and the for moss. i'm skeptical that guitar really is going to step out. i think the view for their own foreign policy, certainly global regional mediation as a key to of what they want of you know, and for what don't wants to be known for throughout the world. but there's no doubt that you've got visuals in carter that are more narrows frustrated at this point. and just let me ask before we run out of time it less for just region for a moment that the rips can be bridged and that a ceasefire agreement can be reached. does it make sense to go into such a ceasefire without a plan for the day after the war in gaza?

it doesn't make sense, but the clear when you are look there's a lot of plans out there. a lot of think things and individuals associated with the face, including the accounts of have people who are for both plans are involved in the various behind the scenes, non governmental engagements about developing plans. i think the us government is the number of years in our tenants that are clear about what needs to happen. but it's true, is this going to be a lot of questions about security, about the military and recovery effort of that reconstruction about governance. that right now or just on do, and we're gonna have to see how they come to fruition. i think the us has been so focused maybe right away. i just think we going to replace them, can even habits inspire so that conversation is possible. johnson panic off with

the atlantic council, jonathan, we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us again tonight. we appreciate your analysis. thank you. thank you. now to the loud speakers, the leaflets and the balloons. now these are the weapons being employed in a cold war, raging between north and south korea. over the weekend, sol, set up at speakers on the border for the 1st time in years and it press play the sound system, sending anti p on game propaganda broadcast across the border. it was a response to the north releasing dozens of balloons. hundreds, we should say filled with trash. john yang says it will stop sending them when south korea to active is stop spreading. prop again, the leaflets. on sunday, the south korean military said that its soldiers fired warning shots after north korean troops, briefly crossed the border. it said it believed the group of about 20 men crossed

by mistake. there was concern that this cold board that it could get hot and that the weapons could go from being psychological to being convention south korean soldiers stand god. their attention focused suddenly on the north, people here on the edge of to sunday skirmish at the border. even if the military says this was not a serious attempt to enter the cell. what do you got given that the north korean military immediately moved north. after our warning broadcasts and warning shots, we believe that they did not intend to invade. but despite the reassuring woods relations between the 2, korea's r at the lowest and use tensions up in ratcheting up in recent weeks of the po and yang sent hundreds of rubbish filled balloons across the border. as many of the balloons was said to be filled with ex comments. that in turn led the south to

restart, broadcasting, propaganda, and cape off across the border. reinstalling racks of speakers pointing towards the north. now, sol accuse is beyond yang of rebuilding its own. loud speak is near the demilitarized zone speakers that had previously been removed. degree is have a long history of blasting each other with propaganda. the use of massive stacks of speak is goes back more than half a century a deal, so both sides agreed to stop using them in 2018. their effectiveness has recently been questioned and many see the re introduction as largely symbolic balloons purchased as in the south send to the north have proven to be much more effective. they devices are often quite high tech and they can reach deep inside north korean territory. these operations have sparked fury in pyongyang.

this week, the sister of north korean leader, kim jong on issued a warning to the south. came your showing, said it would face you count direction if it does not still active effects from sending the balloons and continues the loud speaking broadcasts. the tit for tat is only deepening the divisions between sold and p own yang and remains just one of the seemingly calculus obstacles on the road to piece to the korean peninsula. my next guess tonight knows what is at stake here. he's an expert on the asian pacific region with a special focus on nuclear strategy, arms control, and missile defense. among many other things. he's also the author of the book, kim, john own, and the bomb survival and deterrence in north korea. it explores what a nuclear on north korea means for south korea and the rest of the world, or maybe the welcome to the show tonight on could find that he's a senior fellow in the nuclear policy program at the carnegie endowment for

international peace. i'm good, it's good to have you with us loud speakers. balloons, troops getting lost. i mean, this sounds like, like a, i guess, a cold war comedy, maybe a modern, the episode of the street 3 stooges. why is all of this happening? that's right. i mean, we are seeing the resumption of a familiar dynamic between the to korea is one that in the past has led to is an exchange of fire. and that remains a possibility here that this conflict could go from the realm of the psychological and the symbolic to the kinetic. and of course, the risk there is that things could get very quickly out of control. nursery, it today is more confident than it has been in a number of years. its capabilities, including its conventional capabilities, are much more advanced than they were in the past. and so the risk of a serious introductory and clash i don't think can be ruled out here. i want to ask you about these balloons, because they've gotten the attention of the world. why is north korea sending balloons over the border and not using more high tech gadgets such as drums?

i think they see it as a means of symmetric retaliation for what they see as the new sense of south korean activists. sending balloons across the military demarcation line that separates the 2 countries. now it's after he is a liberal democratic society under the current government. and so there is a degree of respect for the ability of non governmental organizations, civil society groups, to conduct this kind of activist messaging against north korea, the unit administration in south korea as emphasized the human rights of the north korean people. the north strands of course, don't accept those, they see this as an out front of their sovereignty. and more importantly, in front of the political control, the cambridge game exercises and the gardens, and so to retaliate and kind of they have chosen this rather unsavory me sending their own balloons filled with fell across the demarcation line that in turn or says now love the south koreans to redeploy loudspeakers and so this could continue spiraling between the 2. curious, again, you say unsavory um,

some of these balloons we understand were filled with human fx, kermit. and i assume that this is not by chance. um, is this for a psychological warfare tactic? of psychological warfare, i mean it's just the regime giving of psychological middle finger to south korea. it also. so i think that's pretty much right. i think i think the goal of this is to communicate to this after reading people that the unit administration's policies are what have led to this moment. i think the north korea's north korea's goal is not necessarily to punish the south korean people. at least at this point, i think it's more to turn the south korean people against the conservative administration and soul that has emphasized hawkish signaling drawers in order 3 and more generally. so that seems to be the objective and a certainly unusual when it comes to north korea's play bug. but in recent years, we have seen the north koreans get a lot more creative in the ways in which they criticized south korea most prominently. of course, at the start of this year conjunction took the most significant decision he's taken,

arguably in his entire tenure. and that he formerly recalls the longstanding or through and strategic objective of unification. but south korea, and that's what we're seeing now, is taking place in a context of north korea. having fundamentally revisited its approach to south korea and south korea when ask about the, the speakers, it's got these huge speakers along the border blaring music and, and k pop music on top of that up against the regime in the north. why does the leadership consider this to be a threat and the leadership in the north consider this to be a threat. i mean, i would think it would be more of a nuisance, particularly if someone was blaring k pop music into my years. or i think it's a matter of respect and an honor for the north koreans. i think, i think practically speaking, they don't necessarily see this as an effective means of turning their people against their government. but they do see it as a symbolic step by south korea to challenge their sovereignty to challenge their political control. and in essence,

i think they see it as an assertion by south korea of the superior already of its political system. the north koreans, i think with this inferiority, these are the south korea, which is a more successful country and pretty much every single, every single measure you might imagine, with the exception of i guess possessing nuclear weapons. but the certainly, i think has treated this as a significant upfront to the legitimacy of the cameras in the past. and notably in 2015, this was a, be specific, a deployment of loudspeakers, almost led to a significant conflict between the 2. before they ultimately did get into toxic escalate tensions. so that possibility eyes remain here. my hope is that we will see the 2 jury as walk away from the brink rather than continuing to press their lock because this could very quickly escalated serious lot. yeah, a lot of people share that wish with you that's for sure on could handle with the kind of endowment for international peace. we appreciate your time tonight in your analysis. thank you. thanks. fab any, are the koreans and military says,

and it has destroyed 3 russian surface to air missile systems and russian occupied crimea. it's the 2nd report in strength on air defenses on the peninsula. this week ukraine says the strikes targeted a russian s 300 system. and 2 more advanced s 400 systems near bill back military air base. and so vast of whole new arms deliveries from the united states are increasing ukraine's ability to strike russian targets further away. analysts say it's only a matter of time before keith might attack another vital target in crimea, the bridge linking the occupied peninsula to the russian mainland. let's see how that might work and what that would mean for this conflict. this video from ukraine's military intelligence service allegedly shows c drones attacking russian ships off the coast of crime, in just a few attacks out of many in the past month on the peninsula and the russian naval

forces dr. there, including drone and missile strikes, attacking the navy off crimea makes it harder for russia to blockade. ukrainian ports and attacking land based forces weakens rushes ability to wage war on the ukrainian mainland. crimea has served as a russian stage in gran since 2014, when russian forces legally annexed the peninsula from ukraine. the move led to international sanctions and isolated russia from the west, but also allowed russia to station tens of thousands of troops there, as well as tanks and troop carriers. it's blacks. the naval fleet was docked at the port is the vast apple, and it serves as an air base as well for bombing raids on ukraine. for much of the war, the cap street bridge, the connex crimea to the russian mainland was russia's main military supply route for the peninsula, making it a prime target for ukraine. the bridge has been attacked multiple times and the

legend truck bomb in 2022, as we see here. and again in 2023. it's status as a major target, came back into focus in march of this year when german military personnel debated striking the bridge with a german bill. taurus, missile. a recording of that conversation was leaked, creating a scandal until recently. ukraine's western backers forbade it to use long range weaponry on russian territory. but that is changed. both of us and germany have specifically authorized keith to use their weapons to hit targets just inside the russian border to defend the city of hockey. in the northeast. new deliveries, including attack comes missiles from the us, open up a whole new range of possible targets, however, attack them to have a range of 300 kilometers, putting crimea well within their sites. the camp straight bridge is

a no brainer target, and russian military planners have built a new railway line to transport hardware overland to crimea. possibly in anticipation of further attacks on the bridge. ukraine were to destroy the bridge. it would be a blow to moscow's ability to supply its military, but its impact on public opinion in russia would likely be greater annex thing it from ukraine to russia has been a major point of pride for russian president vladimir putin. part of what he sees as his historical legacy with the day continues online, you'll find us on x also known as twitter and on youtube that dw do is you can follow me at brent golf tv. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody the,

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