time minister benjamin netanyahu says, what he calls the intense phase of the war and gaza is winding down. just to be clear that does not mean that the war is over. israel is holding onto it stated goal, eliminating homeless, but that goal remains elusive. 9 months into the war, the group has not been dismantled, nor have the remaining hostages seized during the almost her attack been brought home. so really, what has the intense face of the war achieved? on the call for lucian, berlin, and this is the day the, the end of the fees of intense fighting. very soon, we must swim before we still getting back for 120 oxygen as uh, as the most important political line sensitive objective. it's

a shame that our, i mean, is to still continue as business as usual with the is the phone interest in politics. after the intense phase is finished, we will have the possibility to move part of the forces north. and we will do this picking up silver the to be the and also on the day polls say the national riley is on track to finish top in french parliamentary elections this week. how worried should frances allies be? so is the national rally, is today the only movement capable of the mediately. insensibly responding to the clearly expressed aspirations of the french people. in 3 words, we are ready welcome to the program. it's great to have you with us. benjamin netanyahu has signal to that. what he calls the intense phase of israel's military operations against tomas and gaza is drawing to

a close. but the is really prime minister says the fighting won't stop until the group no longer controls the gaza strip. is rails declared, am in the war, is to eliminate him off and liberate the as really hostage is held by milton groups is an am, israel has not achieved, but these really military chief of staff says the structure of a mazda in the city of rafa is nearly dismantled, israel's military now appears to be shifting its focus to it's northern border, where classes with lebanon's, hesper, i'm unless you all have been intensify the applause the benjamin netanyahu, despite the political head when he's facing both at home and abroad. but his message will likely disappoint those pushing for us to use foreign garza and the speedy return of his reading the hostages. gimme a scam, we ask him if there is an agreement. it will be an agreement, according to our terms. and our terms are not to end toward believe goes on her

mazda, as it is, i knew i refused to leave him off. as it is, of course, we need to eliminate it. as fighting along israel border with lebanon heats up, the prime minister signalled israel could scale baskets operation, and golf with offers to whom i shall love that soon. after the intense veins is finished about. cool. so for one to hold up, we will have the possibility to have a part of our forces nor efficient is good enough because we have them good talk to show him show on the bike. and we will do that using a lot. first and foremost, the need for defensive purposes. when the, when i was in a lot of bites, i called to fill out the form with them for further. crosspost attentions have continued to rise since the outbreak of the war with israel repeatedly striking the a roland back to hezbollah. melisha over the weekend. international observe as of cold for restraint. owning an open conflict could trigger a y double in the middle east. is really defense minister you of go on to is currently meeting with us officials before leaving for washington. he told the

president of the adult. luckily, these meetings, i will discuss developments on the goals upfront the level done front of people, and they have a crucial importance at this time. i'm not familiar prepared for any action that may be required in gaza, lebanon, and other places as well. almost most of the again, it's relative to the government's handling of the will continues to grow over the weekend. protest is raleigh, near the headquarters of ness and yahoo is the crewed party. the biggest, so far, according to all the noises demanding the return of old hostages and an immediate cease fire. meanwhile civilians and goes, i continued to get quotes in the crossfire full palestinians, including a child among the latest victims of his riley showing on central gauze the on monday. and we can now talk john sack of similar, he's the director of the counter extremism project here in berlin. welcome. it's so great to have you in the studio know israel stated goal going into this war was to

eliminate from us and gaza and deliberate. the hostages, none of that has really happened, has that. so what has this intense phase of the war as that in the i was calling it really achieved? well, there have been some successes, but really not really any sustained approach of these 2 core. a saw of course they have killed a little from us fighters. of course they have broken some of the tunnel system, not all of it. they have definitely eliminated large parts of the weapons, what goods and i'm storage is of, of, from us. but they haven't gotten the to lead us safe a day and seen what, and they still have about a 100 this radio hostages income. so if they would leave now, how much would it be back with a month unfortunately? so what it only can mean is a re full course of troops away from the ga, the strip to the north, but they are continuing military operation in gaza strip at the lower level. yeah,

and we are in a military official today saying that at israel is close to dismantling at the rough up for gauge. now i'm from someone who knows this conflict very well. are those traditional military structures really the way that how mos function? well, must have filled up military structure, but it's not like a brigade. it would be in the drum and ami on the us. so it is a organized group of fighters and, but i thought brigade was really the last brigade in, in inverted commas. that is right, happens tackled yet, but that doesn't mean it this or is how must fight as of these various debris gates that they have to just model before i that in captivity with it. it's still a use connected cell network or from us that really fights back on a daily basis against this. right. and a couple of weeks ago was even able to fire rockets. i tell them if again. so what does it mean then that they dismantled the brigade then in the north they,

they said they had completed their mission in the sense now they're popping back up again. it seems like they're playing a very sinister game of whack a mole there. how can they, how can they move forward and effective way and move towards achieving that stated goal? is it even possible the way they're going about it right now? well, the strain, the armies now encountering exactly the same challenges that the international forces had enough kind of time or the american and british forces had in iraq, is that you can not just clear area of tires to inspections elements. you need to hold that area. now and then afterwards, you need to administer that area and they've been very good at the clearing of the air. yes, they have been partially good holding of the areas, but since they have limited tooth numbers that always have to move troops out. so what of course happened was that how much fighters simply pushed into these newly cleared areas back into, into this, into these areas which they had been before. and with these really happened all

that. so this can be a hold and administer step wasn't really done. so yes, they get to northern guys that yes, safety at now i saw, but that doesn't mean that i'm us won't be back as soon as they leave these areas. and if is right and has now decided that they have to concentrate more forces in the north because his bullet has increased its attack, it clearing into how much is hands and it's being into as well as science, because that's exactly what both groups want them to do mm hm. this all started in response to the october 7th, her attacks it as broad, incredible hardship to the people of gaza. now has, or how much loss supports over their role in making what is taking place in ralph and all across the strip of happen. and triggering pulls up very difficult, but that has one by the pa, this team and research center just recently, which really shows that now if i taught has greatest support in gaza strip them. how must, as bob thomas has great support in the respect that,

and then uh fantastic. so it has lost support. but that doesn't mean that, that would be a, at this point, a viable idea or full is governing casa, if it's not, is really occupied at the end of all of this. and that means there's the question who is going to be the biggest problem factor in gaza ones these rarely, i mean, would completely withdrawal or mostly withdrawal. and at the moment, still, the only viable power structure that would very likely take over again is on my so the not at the end of this at all. i want to look at them. they offer it a 2nd, but the 1st, what do you consider to be a boss is biggest source of power at this point? is it popular support still? is it something else it's, it's building this to accept as many publishing and casualties as it takes. this was the strategy from the very beginning to make this an extremely bloody conflict folders where the government make this really government news international support increase the pressure on these rarely government so that they have to stop before

the back is truly broken in the gaza strip. and looking at today's announcement, i'm wondering whether this is not a strategy that will in the end, maybe work out well, that is very interesting. how could you see it working out then in there? well, if israel really now stops a major military operation in live and on against discipline, i know you've seen this in 2006. what kind of results it takes because it's paula is truly an army. we have extra pre gates, which has 5 more rockets follow ballistic missiles and has developed a low flying high speed drone that the mates, the i am drawn the having a completely different military scenario that you have in gaza where it's more in search and they offer this as an extra provincial consultation, which means most of the military energy will go to the north, will go to live and buttoned up in on will again live in 2006 experience major destruction, including an invite route because that's where it's for us. send off gravity as

well, but that also means cause i will get less attention and then we may be back if we were at the point, maybe we're into october 6, which would be a direct your call. yeah. and you say there needs to be a plan for governance for gaza that looking at the past. how have tara groups like, how months been taken out affectively? was it through diplomacy? in the end? there were a couple of examples were like in the irish republic, the high r, hey, was brought into a peace book this. now the problem with a religious ideology, like i must, as is, there is no political process to be had. this is a extremist organization whose identity is comparable to that of all the kind doesn't have a global bond at this point, but certainly wants to have is lumnick state and goes on. so there is no negotiation. you can have someone who has a lot really just, i do want it to be on the ability to try out terror organizations simply by

providing governance that is taking away the source of support. and in this case, it could only be understanding governance, but the pin a is very historically make at this point. so that doesn't seem like about blocks, only remain locked in this then international control, the are a union or the un getting control over the gaza strip and managing until a newly established political solid. you could take a stack of shinla. thank you so much. thank. if of the holes and friends say the far right national rally party set to emerge as the largest group and parliamentary elections this weekend of the party is predicted to gain around 35 percent of the vote. beating a left wing alliance and the party of president and money and my call the prospect a victory for the national rally with its national as an anti immigrant policies

has francis allies more than worried. here's german defense minister of worst, the stories. these come to mind as i mean, i can say from my pots and for the view of germany, the nationalism has never been the solution to problems. but in fact, a substantial part of the problem is that if it does, is that this is a lesson from european history that cannot be neglected. this thing, that's why i wouldn't be happy if a true result would achieve comes back, which would strengthen the democratic free and pro european forces on those the future of europe. because they have eva is with the german martial front of the united states, where she focuses on european security and defense issues because they know welcome to the w. now we just heard the german defense minister giving a pretty clear election recommendation that's a fairly unusual move. isn't that what exactly are francis allies worried about with a predicted wind for the pens party? so 1st of all, thank you for having me and, and didn't. the thing is that, um,

if there was a fire, a prime minister or a file, right, a government in france, this would certainly be an earthquake policy in europe to the extent that many from the mentors of french foreign policy um, would potentially be questions such as um, reading either wanting us to move the project forward and also it was significant, complicated working with the french government on all the issues related to your team that fast and find policy. so even though the french president has a very high competence and foreign policy defense, for example, according to the constitution false to the prime minister. so that particularly corporation, along with this tier, ministries could be significantly more complicated than it is today. let's look at defense because france has been one of ukraine's most outspoken and staunch backers . what would a national riley when mean for european support for ukraine?

so this is still very difficult to say today, because the project of course remains pretty bank. and we also see that the, um, national ready has been a bit more cautious on the question of ukraine. so around a week ago, also as on down vanetta with unique, tentative might potentially become prime minister in case of a victory. explicitly said that, um the basically the warning ukraine is a security threat for a year, and they are now also more cautious and genera on their rhetoric on russia, which previously was very russian friendly. so we do not know how expected and foreign policy under the national already would look like and, but it is certain that there is a big question mark with that. and i think it is this uncertainty that makes it very complicated. also, father in europe seems to anticipate what is basic is coming. yeah. and very

concerning for it. for francis allies, i'm, i'm guessing now no matter the outcome of this election that is coming up and my name a call will say on as president, that is just the french electoral system. he has extensive executive powers in a scenario of what the french called cohabitation, where he be forced to work with his political enemies. how much can you really achieve against the will of parliament and possibly the government? so 1st of all, it isn't from that foreign policy and also defense and security policy has been more most centralized in the, in easy and recent years of the call. but it is also very interesting to know that actually particularly defends policy is one in french. it's called a domain pattern, so to ship the domain of policy making, the fact that the president had so much a grip on that plus more prolific a practice, then a constitution or reality, or comes confusion or obligation so that we can potentially brace for an extra the

negotiations or group for influence on find pharmaceutical sensors in or particularly defense. and in the next months, we don't know how exactly a potential to hear it on the accreditation on that. but the fact that my call is committed to the alliance between france and germany. it's not the best relationship at the moment, but you know, it is a strong ally and still the main far right candidate. you mentioned him. there's a down by the law. he says he will respect the franco german alliance, but he wants a stronger force for france and europe. so what would change if the national riley really established itself at the heart of government? so 1st of all, i think even though we hear things like maybe like commitment to the franco german, i am sort of franco german partnership from the french national. really,

i think it's still important that to know that differentiation already really has a traditional in framing germany as to bad guy in europe and basically framing extended german government takes as a very different man so far from. so the idea that there might be any kind of a french government, a french government, under a prime minister, by the law seeking close and cooperation with germany. i think that is purely unusual. if there was a nation, i run the government and it is particularly from my 12 best friends, wouldn't even know that france could be pushed into a stronger cooperation with germany. and it is also on the flip side of my call, who could potentially be the most important interpreter for germany because on many projects by stopping on a man's tv and level such as the meadow tank um, the friends in germany have been working on or even cooperation and why not try and

go together was permanent. i don't see that there would be. busy willing a string each and am i, am i calling the president has warrant that the policies of the far right and left could lead to civil war? and to what extent is that election nearing and to what extent showed francis allies really be concerned about political instability in the country going forward? so i would definitely not use um the wording of them so before, because i think that is a very, very strong and also opponent raising statement. but i think it's through the lines that there are tensions in french society. and that it is increasingly difficult to basically recall inside the different sides in the ends, in debate and phones. because basically what's the emergence of his pocket, the muscles and all match which originating and to strengthen the port as it goes center in france, my call has de facto um, absolutely, we can, um,

the part is the very previous address at the center needing to strip estimating the pallet to the forces at the politico or at the mountains as the fringes of the partnership and system. and it is, i think it's safe to say that particularly when we're looking at the upholstery occurring came looking at a desperately hung upon enrollment. if the poets i indicate what we indicate a realistic scenario, and i think domestic instability is something that at least definitely can prepare for. but we have to see how this is playing out on the government level. and how this is going to affect for impulse. because the nevada of the german martial fund on in my room, i called the big gamble. thank you so much for all those insight this. thank you.

russia is blaming the united states for a ukrainian attack on crimea and marks the new escalation intentions between russia and the west. moscow has summoned the u as in bassett, or to warrant that it will retaliate. at least 4 people reportedly killed in the attack on sunday and over a 150 wounded. some of the injured are being transferred to moscow for treatments, brush or claims long range attack comes missiles were used. like those you can see your on the screen. the kremlin says the weapons were supplied by washington and program to find us specialist. and we can get more from the double use russian affairs analysts, constituting and god, who joins, is now from billing me as constantine. good to see you again. the russia claims the us beers responsibility for these attacks onto possible how are they are justifying their accusation. and do they have any evidence for their claims? for the 1st nicole, the answer to your last question, there is no evidence as usually there is none. this is a very clear propaganda cliche which brings up convincing the

russian people that it's not the waves or against the cry. it is a will with the west and against the west. the west is attacking rush. and that's why there is such a reaction to the attack comes miss, i'll strike all the crime in the fact that of the russian government. so the russian farm, the street called in the us some best of the to protest no means to highlights this idea of confrontation with the us. but frankly speaking, i think there will be more such strikes and there will be still as little evidence as now that the us forces are really directing, distracts. will take any kind of active part in watching themselves. what do you say is not? and so from, from what i gather from what you're saying is that they're playing to a domestic audience. then how concerned short the,

what should the us in this case be about warnings like this, then the look, put in is destroying such mornings pretty much every week. we keep hearing about the new collab missed as changes in the dock train, but what he does is what his forces are doing pretty much the site is tracking mostly civilian targets in your grade with long range artillery and such. and by now we pretty much know what could be the response in terms of truly military metals. i don't think the clinton has anything more any, any, any more surprises of his sleep. what you've seen recently is a very suspicious fires which look like a x of sabotage into european union. only think that if russia really wants to show that is very serious and responding we, we, neighbors, you. ready we, we, we can some mind steps eventually there will be some kind of rush or link solve with or is it may try to blow up something in the us. that could be a possibility,

but i do not think it will ever stop strikes by us weapons launched by ukrainian crews. they get us rough from todds. so how should the west, particularly the us react to these threats and well, i'm certain that you guys will say that this is the death as we already had in the base. i think that the americans go to just to reach are right, that it's the ukrainian sovereign decision. where to strike end of the crime is a legitimate military targets. it has up at least by about the depending on who calculates but at least 200 minutes resigned. staff, all legitimate targets that uh the, uh, the, the beach which was shipped doing destroyed, uh, is located near a military base. well, i mean, the russian government has to take care and tell people to be off the beach and

model shots before when you called just before we went on the ass. i was looking at the russian tele going journals rush and social media and all ready. i've unconfirmed reports that in fact, people on the beach, the engine worship by debris from russian beside the air defense missed all that was launched and just have that 2nd one will never know probably, but i'm literally what we have told to you about the peninsula. that's is a completely full that is covered with military sites as c w, as russian affairs analyst consenting. i got. thank you so much. i a less or time. make sure to stay informed. stay engaged and stay in touch for now though, from the entire team here on the day. thank you so much for spending parts of your day with us by the

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