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the the, this is the, the, the news coming to live from berlin. julie massage out of prison, and out of the u. k. the wiki leaks found or is expected to plead guilty to violating us espionage law, is now on his way to us pacific island. also coming up, germany's for mr. says the palestinian authority should play a role in post war garza, emily and a 5 fair buck as on her 8th trip to the middle east since the october 7th terrorist attacks last year. and it's really authority step up demolitions being occupied, east jerusalem in the wake of the october. some tax please have an exclusive report on how the move is ratcheting up tensions there even for
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the blow and terry martin, thanks for joining us. julia sondra has flown out of the u. k. after agreeing to a plea deal, which will see him go free. the wiki leaks founder is being moved to the northern marianna island as in the pacific where he is expected to plead guilty to violating us espionage law. son was warranted for publishing classified us military files on the with the leaks platform, which he founded in 2006. and he had been fighting expedition to the us and britain where he spent the past 5 years in a high security prison. it's a sanchez, ultimate destination is australia, his home country. here's a bit of what australia and prime minister anthony
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a news they had to say earlier about the apparent end of the song case. i've been very clear as by the live deleda, a in a position, but also as prime minister. that regardless of the views that people have about mr . ascends is activities, the crisis dragged on for too long. the w a reporter joel don't really is following the story from sydney and joined just now jo. a son is on his way to the mariana islands. that's a us territory in the south pacific. he's post to appear in court there. what to expect? well, it's an unusual place to such a high profile case to be a and the reason is going there is, according to the united states of justice, mr. san she was worried about going to continental united states is long see that you will face potentially the death penalty there. so he agreed to go to this us
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territory, which is also the closest you as court to his own country, a stranger. it's not clear if there's any kind of a legal advantage for you to do that, but anyways, nearby, he'll be there tomorrow morning on amber. many people from the island are expected to show up and see this court case, which is unexpected sensation in such small little territory and difficult it is according to plans you will plead guilty to one else under the espionage at all. so saving and publishing confidential documents that are past due by chelsea, my name is unexpected. to be sentenced. and this time spent in the u. k. prison system, about 5 years could be taken as a time served and is expected to be released. and on his way back to the store area, by the end of the week, essentially. now you're in australia, joel assigned is originally from there. what are people in australia is saying about his release as well as one says quite a degree soon to see here in australia,
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there are many people who think that this price is just awful too long. even those who think he did anything wrong or if he's been more than adequately punished. this training on earlier this year passed the resolution calling for him to be released, the starting prime minister, entity off and easy. and of all these us a leaders like is felice. and we also have some politicians today saying we shouldn't condemn him for accepting this for you deal because he should do whatever the hell can to get out of the system as long been concerns about his health as mental health is it's physical health and he's going to have a quite a bit of recovery edison there are those also if you think he should never be prostituted in the 1st place. the start of the journal, this junior put out a statement saying that the prosecution of the science was an attack on the freedom of the press and of all jealous. because one who did essentially was journalism publishing documents that basically revealed the mystique, united states and across the united states in the warm tara in iraq. so he's got quite a bit of sympathy. of course,
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there are people who think he shouldn't have been released. one of those is the former us vice president, my tendency for that message and social media saying that this would be a miscarriage of justice saying that people assigned to face the full extent of the law, which presumably me face death penalty. so you can see why. busy there was a rush to get him out of us because of this taken a very long time. by the time he gets back to australia, it'll be the 1st time he sees his children who saw that since has been in the prison system. and by the time he gets back, it'll be 14 years side of his legal deal, and people basically have degree sympathy for him and think that enough is enough. it's time for him to come on. joe, thank you very much. that was the w reporter joel delroy. there and city us for more on this, let's bring in rebecca vincent here. she has the international campaign, searching that reporters without borders and joins just from paris. rebecca,
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thanks for taking time to talk with us. what do you make of this deal for julian? massage. well, we are usually relieved that he is now out of prison. he never should have spent a single day there. of course he spent 5 years in london. hi security bellmarks present. he's been arbitrarily deprived of his liberty for more than 13 years. so this is a very long time coming, but a huge relief to those of us with campaign for so long for exactly this outcome. this is a huge development in such a closely watched k. so as you say, it's gone on for years, has the plea, agreement that we're learning about now, been on the table for a while. we're not yet able to comment on that. we haven't had the chance to scrutinize it ourselves. so we're waiting for that to be released as well. um, but we have long applicators and i know others have as well for a political solution to this case. there is a chance that there would have been a legal prevention of extradition. this was playing its way up through the u. k. courts, and we closely monitored that process. but we had to reset this as
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a political case and it may require a political solution. we had urged the us government long ago to consider other means of bringing this to an end. ideally, we would have seen a situation where all charges were dropped and the case was simply closed. but the most important thing now is that julian will not spend any further time, unjustly, behind bars. now it sounds julian this onto always said that what he did was not wrong. and yet now he's pleaded guilty. has he changed his position on leaking the information that got him into trouble or i certainly wouldn't read it in that way and we don't believe he should have been targeted for this. we don't believe that anybody should face such treatment for so long more than a decade for publishing information in the public interest. so the way that this was done leave some room for concern. we also remain worried about the possible use of the us as female shots against others in this way. so this is one next step is
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that law actually needs urgent reform. it was not intended to be used as a target journalist to get typically like this. but we have seen that it can be so firstly, we need a public interest defense, other reforms that last so that journalists do not have to worry that they can face similar treatment. what signal would you say this sends to other investigative journalist or whistle blowers exposing government wrong doing well, we think that journalism, particularly those who report on national security issues are a little bit safe for now because of julia sanchez release. but again, the way that he has been targeted for so long least cause for concern. the us is not the only government that pursues journalists that report on national security issues. we. we've noted this as a worldwide trans, including from some of the countries at the very bottom of our world press freedom . and that's, that's why it's so important that our democracies are held to account that the standards others, including the us, the country of the 1st amendment, shows that it means what it says. and we hope that we will never again see such
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a prosecution by a democracy committed to the values of freedom of expression and freedom of information as we see with this way too long. dragged out prosecution of julian, his arms is your flight. rebecca for assault over his roof. is it over with now now that he's being released or do you, will you campaign for him to be pardoned? moving forward, assuming that he does then carry a guilty verdict on the, on espionage? well, we'll have to scrutinize the deal itself. we'll be following closely what transpires today and hoping very much for the chance to speak to julian when, when he is able to learn what he would like next. um, we will continue to support if he continues his legal fight. we will continue to support that. we will continue to support other journalists who find themselves targeted for their national security reporting and again will continue to campaign for reform of the espionage act in the us. um the us has recently dropped
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significantly in our real press freedom in docs of this sort of cas a, a spotlight on other issues that need to be addressed out, particularly in an election year when we don't know what will happen in the administration to come. so this is a positive step. very welcome and a huge relief to all of us. rebecca, thank you very much for talking with us. that was rebecca vincent of reporters without borders in paris. now today, tuesday, ukraine and you will start negotiating the terms of the countries accession to the block. it's something here crate has been working toward for a long time the w's. lucy is schultz and looks of how ukraine got this far and what to expect. next of applying for you membership, one of the 1st moves ukraine made off the rush are launched, its full scale invasion back in february 2022. the move that the country sees as
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a pos to better living conditions and more secure to the you agreed to start the process. what made it clear you cry and would need to make some changes before taking the next steps. any country joining the has to meet its high standards, including on rudo for all human rights and a competitive market economy. since then, ukraine has been busy with it's you home, but pushing forward reforms to cope corruption and decrease hardly galks infants. oh, why fighting all for russian addressing that are in the country praise from the use execute. if you have me rate strides, much greater than any one expected from a country at war, you are undergoing the reforms while fighting a full scale war. and the goal is surely within reach. now that the eu has approved. few crimes reforms accessing talks can begin,
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but they will be heavy on technical detail negotiations. the mean going through every chapter of the usually book. all $35.00 of them and making sure that you cry is lost a line that includes of a policy areas such as energy, taxation, and justice. the 27. currently you members will have many more opportunities to approve or block ukraine's progress. and joining this class could take years or even decades. all that means ukraine's journey to you. membership could still be el . i'm going to the, let's talk to lucio schultz and our corresponding who filed that report to join just from luxembourg. let's say ukraine is not just any you member, any you perspective member, it's a country has been invaded by russia and that war is on going. what does that mean
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for ukraine's you membership prospect? how does that factor into the war? yes. the question, but that actually means and the question whether you train can joined violet is still entangled in that war is an open question and that has been ask you today next book as well. but at this stage, what met us for you train is that it is an historic day. they're starting these accession talks. and we have also heard from you, if you union that or from ministers coming you today, it is not a new historic day for you explain. it is also an historic day for the european union. and this is also meant as a sign of solidarity to what you're trying to keep, to tell them to keep on fighting of russian aggression. and that has been a lot of price for ukraine that they have been able to do. reforms in the area of rudolph are all fighting against corruption while they're in this very difficult situation. in the best case scenario,
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lucio with ukraine recovering its territorial integrity and meeting all the accession criteria. if all of that happens when light ukraine theoretically becomes you man. so it's very difficult to put a date on this. what you have to keep in mind is that even though the start is a starting now with indigo associations already entering into the 1st chapter to really get onto the substance, even bet might still take around another year. this is what you're deployments expecting. they think it could be a bit quicker, but what you need to see for that is for every one of these chapters, for every one of these decisions, you will need for unit damage and by the european union member states. and we have already heard, for example, this morning by the hungarian minister for european affairs, the honors bullcrap, the tea, things that you train is still far away from fulfilling the accession talk. so it is very difficult to say when you try and will finally be
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a member of the european union, or if it's indeed might ever become a member of the european union. but today, it is an important step that they start with similar jason talks and we expect for ukrainians to come in a couple of hours. and then we'll take it from there. a big day for ukraine, and e u r corresponded lucy, a shelton in luxembourg. thank you very much. and let's catch up on a few other stories making headlines around the world. today. the greek health minister has issued a warning to visitors to watch out for the heat. at least 10 for and torres have either died or gone missing. after hiking and 40 degree temperatures. grease has been hit by as early as ever heat wave in reached. the owner of the south korean lithium factory, the caught fire on monday, has issued a public apology. he offered his condolences to the families of.

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