let's say together, nick always talks about community life on the research is now on the top the nature of cult itself, the strongest defense alliance in the world and the community of values multiple conflict but to prevent the confusion. but this view is not sure if i actually want you don't have a protein rights to be in charge. in many countries enough for con asia, the military alliance is regarded with skepticism and distrust. we often call and help. but you're a little bit suspicious that we are being set up for the future causal. there is a certain level of thought proceed. the war and ukraine. his father divided the

worlds and reveals a deep disconnect between nato countries and the global song. we don't even take from side to west, also needs to recalibrate them approach. so what does this mean for need to in the future of the alliance? we are going to get, we can't expect every country to see the world the same way we do. the nato should expand on a global basis. the booking of phones, so in west africa, in september of 2022, youtube as soldiers detained the president and ceased power accusing the government of failing to fight and as long as the insurgency, it was the 2nd cou within a year. supporters of the crew took to the street waving russia slash

the movie one bit here, picks up the loop and get up on the phone. so in the end, so it says ready to never give up the fight because we are here to support the military in order to testify our country, which has suffered so much from territories and shut down all duties. the embassy of former colonial rule friends came on to attack, dissatisfied with french influence and the west, in general, the orchestra to it's of the crew to and to rush out for military assistance. demanded a firm we are asking from to get out to these 2, these awesome being piece because they are taking us centuries back about this to most co instigate the pricing. it's not clear but this, the whole region has been in the cross hairs of russian. this information campaigns for years, the cooling book, you know, fast, so was just wanting a series of military take over. it's in west africa since 2020,

that have toppled governments in need. yeah. molly and guinea and were a military home test or the western troops to leave inviting russian mercenaries in instead, the russian wants to show that the west is failing. so of course, when there is a legal, the geo political vacuum, russian, russian moves in everybody's in the game with just one of the play as now you know, that's what we have to. i think i understand and integrate into us thinking people are looking after their own interest and making a, making a choice based on what they see and what they need. the kremlin has aggressively expanded its footprint in africa, offering military cooperation and seeking support. or at least neutrality over its invasion of ukraine government and some parts of the world. russian president vladimir puts in this no longer welcome. but here he is seen by some as

a friend. and all of this, despite the, with efforts to build a global coalition to condemn and isolate the regime in moscow. rational tries, in a way to, to do, of course is the spread of their false narrative. and of course, the i believe in, in, in, in, through. so i, i believe that the best answer to this information is, is, is the truth. and of course, nato is always ready to be part of the open public debate about about dissertation in europe, in africa. on the and we will continue to appeal to everyone that believes in the law that we should look at our contradict social 2 has been to force to get there will we are at nato headquarters and brussels of to decades in the office. the insult him back is about to step down at the secretary general, she has navigated the organization through difficult times

the since the start of rushes invasion. she has been trying to keep the alliance together, rel, link elyse behind you cream. she has also intensified need to outreach to global partners. our security is not a regional. our security is a global. what happens in ukraine matters for a strong and more successful to, to induce in ukraine. they're more likely to is such a gun. so you something seem to happen in the salt sign on the sea, on april 4th, need to celebrate that spread state and the strong found fortune between europe and the u. s. in the aftermath of world war 2. but there was no real party moved. investors, in spite of speeches, full of strong commotions. today we celebrate the center,

spend the rest of the strongest most. and during the most successful alliance in history, some of the to member a slight hungry and germany used to have very close ties with russia before the war . other especially those in eastern europe have always been wary of the kremlin with visiting military trail in western poland to a need to hi readiness troops from different countries are exercising. how to fight side by side should the need arise, like other countries that share at border with ukraine or russia and the to use to live under the some of the soviet union. the poles now fewer they are at risk of being attacked to ukraine falls. they have been warning of russia, true intentions for years. it's little bits for us the we were aware of the situation and we were awarding the others who are showing the, the experience, our experience for many,

many use of cooperation with russia. they didn't believe this. they wanted to make a business as usual loud. they can see we're right. we're right. we can make the business, but we have to be ready for any threats from english. because russia, it's russia, they haven't changed for centuries. helping ukraine fight against russia has so far united states of countries, even though key, if it's not a member of the alliance, you installed back and fell on need to leaders believe their cause. is it right? just one. the, the rushes more and ukraine is a blatant violation of international law. these are the 2 competing narrative which has been central to russia's longstanding dispute with me till most co says that the alliance has been encroaching on russia's folders for years. nato says it's the other way around. central and eastern european come sweets were afraid to rush

shots and wanted to join the organization. the claims that the russians and some others make about what they called nato's expansion to the east. after the end of the cold war, uh, are really badly uh, misplaced and don't at all describe what happened. i was in the george h w bush administration. i remember that countries like hungry came to us as the berlin wall was falling and, and were knocking on nato's door because they had been through world war 2. they had been through the post world war to basically soviet occupation. and they wanted defense. they wanted to be in an alliance that would protect their sovereignty, the way the west caesar. every country should have the right to choose its own allies and not to about great powers seeking to maintain your self interest. but

this narrative doesn't seem to convince the global self. what you can't understand is why do you want to expand it? why would you 1222222. by and large. um, enlarge the footprint of nato in the world where we should be decelerating. the synthesis of conflict, especially with one of i see globalization and the will be increasingly integrated from nato's perspective. military support from its members is badly needed for ukraine to survive as a silver, a nation. but the allies are also struggling economically and have problems with using enough ammunition and weapons for both ukraine's and their own protection. russia meanwhile, has so far defied wisdom sanctions and completed a transition to a full born economy. so the supporters of ukraine understand the needs of the

international community to help them contain russia. and they want countries in the global cells to also believe this is for their own goods. if you validate the principle that unprovoked aggression goes on, answered, it's going to be the small defenseless countries who are going to face the risk. united states doesn't face the risk of, of unprovoked attack. as long as we remain strong this afternoon for the indiana. or we have to open up to dialogue to other perspectives and we have to make it clear to the country and then the global side and see which and not to the same. everyone has the interest that we are interested in dialogue. we are interested in the strategic partnership, which is going to by protecting the rooms based international to take above you at the end. and that's a lot of our them for fits but is this the kind of partnership the countries and the global self are looking for? we travel to south africa to find out the country has as much as one of the driving

forces on the continent. south africa does not see the war in ukraine in the same light as the west. the government in for toya has refused to join the western coalition against the kremlin. instead, south africa conducted terry trellis with russia and up stained on every resolution adopted by the you and general assembly we joined a rallying shoshanna group in new york for tour. yeah. one of the most notorious townships in the area, supporters of the governing african national congress have come together here to protest against violence, crime, unemployment corruption. these are the issues south africa is currently grappling with. but in spite of all that, they are proud of their country. and if they are successful, struggle for freedom and independence. we want to be treated as new quotes because we're living in the clinton and quote, africa doesn't make us different. and from people who are living in noodle for

people living in the mail because we put our own destiny. we want to go to that destiny using our own way of doing things. we cannot be told because the very same people want to tell us what to do. they get the resources from this theme of feedback that they want to undermine. today. we support every one who is a victim of a meal kind of lives in who is a victim of we did anything, we have one to support them. we thought even flinching the risk of historical legacy that might possibly explain south africa's political choices of to all. it was the united states and other western countries that supported the apartheid regime for decades. while the soviet union provided money in weapons for the fight against white dominance in the region, the weapons are still on display symbols of old alliances and partnerships when nato or the west goes to countries like india. china now of course,

but also in africa, latin america, to come and join them and sanctions against russia, or in condemnation of fresher, they forget that these countries have historical relations with russia. that some of them had been helped by rush in the liberation struggles. and they forget that these countries are also deciding on the basis of the national interest of the community center in the cafeteria. monro, panorama copays, the b i. p. visit to here today. the politician has served in different positions in the government, including as a foreign policy adviser to president serial rama pasa. the center has been financed by cut off just one example of the many partnerships south africa has porch since it's independence. here ne, to is viewed with this trust that things weren't happening right? yes. in, in, in e mail on old continental, no one is talking about what's happening in west inside. no one is talking about

even what's happening in the middle east. there's many, many places, way we believe that interventions used to be and not only in gaza. and we believe that they have really been some kind of discrimination against that basis as it relates to conflicts that are happening. and it's only important if it is happening in this setting, geographic area and sit tendencies. that's what we see the and that is how people seem to perceive nato here in south africa. and also in other parts of the world. as a western club characterized by dappled standards, when we see they don't, we often call and help us be a little bit suspicious that we are being set up for a future goal door. based on this table, based on historical commission, do you not provide? the nato has never been aggressive. no one in the global sites has to worry about that tonight. and it will stay that way because the members days of an a to room

western democracies which feel clearly on could in the values that are a state which also have clear moral principles that don't have whenever natal went to build the, you know, a do the lock and i've gone this on and if you, if you talk about countries that are going to the global solid or countries that are not western, i think for them it's about too many movie to which perhaps 6 was and does change, which is that every time they did was google, it doesn't the dock and i've gone to find so mutual splendors and you all kind of got us on something by which all we have a perception and i think it's a correct valid was option because of business while we are under the sun, the do can justify what need to do. the kind of gone to funds need to elyse, went into i've gotten this done up to the 911 terrorist attacks on the u. s. to ensure they said that the country, which never again become at safe haven for terrorists. the invasion of iraq was launched in 2003 under what's turned out to be a full street tex. it was conducted by a you asked,

let call ation of countries which included some other natal members the conduct of the west and both operations undermined its claims that it wants to protect a rules based global order, the suffering of the civilian populations in the rock enough gone is done, and eventually the humiliating retreat from a guy and it's done weekends, the reputation of the west leading power. the us, one thing we should to do as nato is told him, to throw less us from afghanistan at the search because it was hot breaking to see while a nato troops were leaving, as the tenant and the disorderly, the behavior on the part of a kinase for city is the united states as been so well, it's well this taken us into one adventure of to the other. and the full has

full for to the right, full modeling, the new emerging powers like india are eager to step in to feel defined. we are in new delhi, india, capital, the country of 1400000000 people has aspirations to become a top global power. faithful to the corner stone of its foreign policy, multi alignment. india has refused to sacrifice its ties with russia over the war and ukraine. instead, it has taken advantage of west and sanctions on russia by purchasing cheap oil and bulk. need to seems to be seen here as the party, mainly responsible for the war and ukraine. 2 factors, one is. 2 you know, going on please stream the supervisors that does the west and rescue but more specifically to the not to itself and that kind of publication that's not to has

done regularly on the east and, you know, bordered off a shelf maple is probably the purpose of nato's to help us set arms. it's media chris by the us to find the markets towards weapons. nothing more. the 1st thing i particularly don't feel that of that is affordable on any such type of what is happening. that natural is needed, the prime minister in their rent remedies refusal to break with russia seemed to surprise many europeans for a few that india being a democratic country which side with other democracies. does this mean? india is indifference to the violence in ukraine. a federal question should be what really hasn't done. so it takes a lot of pride in saying that he has to be on euclid. but at the same time, we do not support the water that he wait. all we all have also sent 15 consignments of age to you create a v r one. so perhaps, so one of the most bulky supporters,

all for mediation and be spending, you know, india has a particular relationship with russia and it has a particular relationship in europe. and these are both constructive partnerships. they have, you know, different elements there. the relationship of russia still remains important for a number of reasons, defense, energy, security, food security, and for strategic relations and duration of russia has long been india as lodges arm supplier. but the warning ukraine has have seen utilities inputs has to diversify its weapon. space mode is government has turned its focus to domestic production with western technology. this guided messiah destroyed locally made by india is a recent example of that. and military drill into human lives. here in just disputed border with china into an american troops training together. here it's both countries try to manage

rising tensions with badging exercises like this one, reflect the bonding defense ties between india and the u. s. but the mistrust of nato appears to be deeply rooted. i think nato and his member states and other european institutions do suffer from a charges of double standards, a popular see when it comes to a universalizing. their mission and the feeling in many parts of the global south is that uh, the standards only apply when your insecurity or need to interest started stake. but our convenient fee set us side when other country share similar concerns about things happening in their regions and their countries. so countries like india and south africa are aspiring to take on a bigger role on the world stage. their platform is brakes. an informal collab initiated by restaurant 2009 to counterbalance the g 7. it has recently welcomed

new members. the group now represents 45 percent of the world's population excellency. part of excellencies from india food. he supports the expansion of the brakes membership. how do you spell it? breaks members have differing interest. there is competition, there are disputes among them. but what unites them is the urge to challenge a world order dominated by the west. the view of a rigs is larger that just of it. uh so you did it already recognize the rely, jay, that the bricks countries dope sauce countries on a rise? we do need to be that who will stay in the brakes and strengthen the brakes and let the voice of the african nations to actually be head. brooks is definitely a good for them to actually do that because it is taking away the power of the west . we look at the brakes and when we are devin brakes, i think we want to retain the non western on nature and the flavor of bricks

because of we are not there then actually becomes and to western breaks it's about geo politics. country can only corporation it, it's not a military alliance. nato countries collectively spent much more on defense. but the brakes nations are catching up. especially china. it already has the 2nd biggest economy in the world and to numbers, the biggest army and navy in the world. for the last few years, china has been asserting its power and its neighborhood in particular towards taiwan, which it considers and renegade products, but also towards japan. and increasingly, in the south china sea, a region of sweet tv can port this will need to countries as well as one 3rd of global trade. it's shipped to the area. this is a very volatile region. we know that, but there are no horse. i mean, there are no hot tours at the moment, and most of the countries that i speak to,

whether it's indonesia or malaysia, or even the indians who look like pro west and at the moment. don't want this foreign power, this foreign sinking power to come to, to the region and perhaps making things worse. so far it is mainly due as that is boosting smaller countries in their efforts to contest paging claims in the region. but kids need to play a role there to of, to old and it's new strategic concept. the alliance describes china emissions as a challenge to add security. well, my own personal view is that nato should expand on a global basis, not for a offensive purposes or just out of now you've idealism, but because the world has entered, i think, a new period of foreign policy. i think it was, you could take 2023 is the year that happened with visible formation of the china,

russia axis. and if you ask countries along, china is periphery, japan, south korea and india. they will say they're very worried about what the implications of this are, and i'll be a globe. i have my diet. so by whether we need to become more global methods, whether it come straight to 3 hours away for the 2 hours away from you, we have to deal with it differently. and i don't think that in the future, but that doesn't realize nato becoming large of that and can. but the future of nato will also depend on its most powerful member of the united states. we are in washington dc where those voices don't think the value of the trans atlantic bond has been growing load and louder and we see ours money could be spent elsewhere to do like better infrastructure or like better politics in america 1st and yeah, i think my needs to be sent to other resources. i mean, we do have the largest portion of the contributions to nato. we've been asking them

for years. our country partners to contribute more contribute more or we're gonna, you know, kind of loosen up our ties. but we have the responsibility, i think it's uh, ensures that others feel safe in the world. and i think without it, you know, you have outside actors like russia in china, they're going to feel the goldens. she has been fueling and time nato sentiments. when donald trump was president of the united states, he described the european union as a folk and threatened to make your p and pay for you as protection. now, on the contain trail, he is doing it again. one of the presidents of a big country stood up said, well sir, uh if we don't pay and were attacked by russia, will you protect us? i said, no, i would not protect you. in fact, i would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. you gotta face, so crude, a 2nd, trump presidency, mean the ends of nato. i do think that it's highly likely trump of withdraw from

nato if he's elected. and i think that would be a catastrophic decision for the united states. it would have negative consequences all over the world because the countries of asia would say, look, if the united states is leaving the most successful military alliance in history. what, why do we think they would defend us? we need to look at the factual elements and also to visit e since development. that sentence has inactive the deals to prohibits in the future us, pres, then to withdraw the united states from nato is a good safe guys to measure. i think in may 2024 need to complete its largest exercise since the cold war involving thousands of troops from europe and north america, regardless of who wins the race to the white house. many here expect that you asked

support for need to will decline any way, and the viewer will have to do more for its own defense. some see, it is a chance for the continents to emancipate itself from the u. s. and we calibrate it's approach to the global self. i believe very much that your of has an important experience to share with the world. countries coming together offer a war coming together, setting up structures. this is an inspirational, really and inspirational story and inspires me as a european, but i can tell you it inspires many people in asia, africa, and latin america. so i think instead of talking at each although i'm always so. so the 1st exemplifying all the divergence of the problems, i mean, tablets and those other interview with. but i think we should be talking to each other much more. and the geopolitical moment is perhaps right, correct. and as well, we need to get all 5 tihawn. finally meets on an equal footing and accepts that there are no longer any blocks in the world. that's the decisive factor coalition

of all those who support the rules based international order. because in the end, it protects everyone from indian fits. so now europe is occupied with the war raging on his doorstep, but it's this war that has shown you a p instead little can be a cheap alone in an emerging multi polar won't change in perspectives, may be an important step towards a more peaceful future. the dancing despite the 16 year old domino aspires to become

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