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a more than 1000 kilometer long border with russia and bella ruth. but as the war and ukraine drags on their position, rise on mayfield's front line with russia puts them at high risk. i want to know how the politics are protecting themselves from russia, and to find out i'm going to speak with the people. it's like rationally involved in the process. we will zoom in on the 3 industries, cyber security, energy defense safeguarding the politics coming up on this edition of business beyond the politics we gave their independence around 30 years ago when the soviet union collapsed. at that time, their economies were in tatters. the upshot was that leaders could design new systems from scratch, recreation, innovative, and business friendly environments that gave rise to $1000000000.00 companies. ready they also built super online societies where everything from filing years have says to, in the case of

a stony of boasting takes place on the internet. these digital economies have most of advantages, but in times of conflicts, they open up another dangerous front. cyber attacks have become a part of the 200 bucks for the russian federation diplomacy, if you say or do something that is not accepted by them or that is counter to their narrative. and then that immediately after that, there is a cyber attack to follow. that was get out of the rector of cyber security at a stony as information system authority. i asked them to describe some of the attacks his agency has had to deal with. perhaps the way the most known attack on a stone. yeah. we're not the most known, but one of them was uh, was the last year in alton, in 2023. when our national train system was attacked for about 46

hours, people are not able to use their cellphone to buy a ticket or to see when the training is coming or to show the ticket when uh, entering the train. and nobody uses paper tickets anymore. and a 7 now or that the tickets are in the mobile phone. definitely the other attacks recently on government portals, hospitals and even central heating systems. but one really remarkable incident happened on may. the 9th and latvia when people watching the tv news were southerly, served up images of moscow's victory day parade instead. may the 9th is when motions celebrate the face of nazi germany to i asked by task and she heads up block, be a cyber security agency. how it could happen. so the resource that was breached it was physically in lot 3 about it was administrated and owned by a company from another country. and from e u and the, our television company was using this resource for broadcasting. so

exactly how it was cracked i cannot disclose about the the goal obviously has been to cover this excess and in on the right date, the height and thread of fiber board fired from russia, especially targeting supply chains that cross international borders has prompted security agencies to be felt that resort has been my case, the cyber security agents it over. so now the people are working here has more than trip but within the budget, more or less control booth over the last 2 years. but we're still along the road of getting to at a minimum level to protect. because again, i come back to the fact that we have 9 incidents with an impact every 24 hours for $8314.00 incidents last year. and already in the course of the last 2 quarters of this year or the 2nd quarter is that long going. so there's been more i text them at the same time period last year. so. ready the tendencies going up, this is the,

this is the new reality with the threat level. so high government agencies have to compete for talents. it's a challenge, and for us, it has become even more of a challenge because of all of those a unicorns the company's sakes eating 1000000000. and there's about 10 of them appraising from a stone, you know, and they all in the tech sector all in the i t sector. so for a government agency, it is very hard to compete with the salary level and then to, to uh, to get or let tell him that we need to protect our systems when it comes to cyber security. international cooperation is key in lot fia authorities have teams up with nasal partner canada to fight cyber crime. we have been uh, conducting a trip hunting operations together with canadian armed forces since 2022. so there

are of cyber operators for, from canadian armed forces, working together as us are toby, on truck hunting operations on our critical infrastructure on our public sector. that reference to the public sector is key with tax us health states. i do cation records on most other public services, primarily taking place online. ready the stakes of cyber warfare could hardly be higher. the more you digitize your services, the wider the tech spectrum becomes. but what you need to do in such a scenario is this a secure by design approach. make it really and from the get go and build systems, you know, way that security is an inherent element. another area, the ball success being focused on safeguarding is energy. and you can see why in the month following russia's full scale invasion of ukraine. things got very expensive, very fast. inflation was an issue across the u,

but it was especially extreme and lot via lithuania and estonia because of their heavy reliance on russian. gov. all 3 nations took action to end that dependence as quickly as possible. nowhere didn't foster then lithuania in 202096 percent of the countries energy imports came from russia. today, this taker is 0 to or use the landscapes has been at the forefront of that change. his company, k and energies operates liquefied natural gas terminals. infrastructure that's been key to entering the reliance on gas and ports by a pipeline from russia of the company build its 1st ellen g terminal at the pores of club, haida in 2014 the same here that russia on next to crimea before the infrastructure appears in 2014 in july philip. uh, actually these had only one the channel for guess. why that was

a grid coming off from russia. so we recognize the threats and there is one of those risk price manipulation from boston stage energy joined golf problem. leave us suffering highest prices in europe in continental because be inconvenient partner at all, or let's say the consumer offer a gas which was not to it, let's say, following or supporting the let's save a politic a line off of the eastern neighbors. the car pay the l n g terminal is aptly named independence, that the weight in now no longer relies on russian gas. having replaced it with inputs of l. n. g from countries such as norway in the united states. other allies of ukraine are benefiting from the companies know how can energies recently one a tender to maintain a for l n. g terminals on germany's north, the coast of developers, major players uh,

spotted to approach us. oh guys. you know, we saw your project well done. you know, maybe you can help us in some, you know, and in some scope of how projects is sonia unlocked for you. i have also ended their dependence on russian gas. and both 3 countries are in the process of quitting the russian and bella, russian electricity grid connecting to europe by a poland instead. but do they have the financial resources to deal with an even more ominous thresh, following rushes invasion of ukraine, all 3 governments boosted their defense budgets considerably. leaders are paying special attention to the possibility of russian military aggression in 3 areas. the eastern a sony and says you have nava where 85 percent of the population is ethnically, russian, the region of luck, gully and eastern lot via the the russian x club of colleen in grad it's connected to bella. ruth, by the so walk, you got a 65 kilometers stretched up. awesome. titled as a potential flash point for

a confrontation between russia and nato. i must 33, once again, that the security of the baltic states directly depends on ukraine's victory. the politics are among the world's biggest per g d p. spenders on ukraine. and all 3 countries are well exceeding the nasal defense spending. target of 2 percent of g d p are actually spread and prepare for a long confrontation. and so most we, for that we need to increase our defense budgets as soon is now spending more than 3.2 percent of a gdp on defense. the additional money is being spent on increasing troop numbers, buying new weapon systems, expanding military service and boosting cyber security. but is this increase defense spending actually having any impact on businesses on the grant? i asked to see the sony in defense of the aerospace industry association. he told me that the exports of defense systems have gone up. so those numbers has increased

. let's say, uh, 40 feet in front of a sense, of course, the main market. main market, but the, the, the biggest export driven you okay, came from your brain. defense companies have also noticed the difference in box acre enough to land even the sweetest banks which being before, where are you concerned with the, the sort of defense industry. as now, as they said that the moral compass has to be changed. they also now see this potentially been in this kind of markets as a small country, as tony, as defense companies comp compete on price or quantity. but they have built up a nation, specialize high tech systems, attracting interest from bigger international players. like germany's design baton . we have the company board deb sinking though they're providing situational awareness systems. actually, that's a joint venture with raymond, though,

for example, raymond, dollars supporting or so on. so you, for even they saw this kind systems workforce made into sonya, that's what and what do you bring in what needed they financing this project. so defending ukraine is the main mission. but what it by protecting themselves, you see we may have lived with the side to the east story. and this rhetoric has been, it's the 1st time describing different topics and of course reading tab. so maybe submissions historical. um, memoirs from the boss, of course it's the it's how, how it to explain the last way. you don't have panic and just doing it. ok. tomorrow we stopped at all. but the yes we,

we definitely be aware the situation kind escalate. we often hear what's happening in ukraine, described as a war on europe store stuff for the baltics, that's literally true. i'm what struck me the most about the people i spoke with was the cool head. whether it's managing l n. g terminals sending advance defense systems to ukraine or culturing the latest cyber address. these small countries have no choice but to keep calm and carry on breathing for the nose and out for the most. it's in delta and it's interesting, but of course the, there's a lot of stress and that brings us to the end of this edition of business beyond. thank you so much for watching. if you liked this episode, you should definitely check out my colleague stevens recent story. he looked into why europe defense industry is struggling until next time for me on the team is good by taking the

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