the find out about all the story info, migraines, reliable news. so like when, wherever they may be the this week on the 77 percent street debate. you're speaking about the impact of what's the issue towards how i did he likes as you're going to we keep seeing you that coll, chase bank culture is bank is up with guns. why are it didn't go on college? and that was quite a place for speaking may look around which you know, those days there's no to put the address on you. yeah. it but you're new thing to get that to a phone speaking. go look along with the new compound video of what to do, combining african languages and local along with this in particular. and we're having this conversation in english 1st that has and 15 of college at 15 of college . i use language. if we're having this conversation in english,

what are we still trying to defend? we've been having a tool that the woman is not supposed to can and excites okay. i'm okay. okay, okay. okay. okay, let's settle this chicken situation on watson. the hello and welcome back to the submit to set up a test suite debate this week. we a back and you've done this capital of compiler. now this is a city that steeped in traditional culture, but you wouldn't know that walking around because like many capitals across africa, it's also living in a more than time. as of today, we're asking applicant cultures at risk of being erased in the quest for globalization and who brought us to answer this question for me, then uganda. and i want to talk with kia, because when we had a conversation on your you said something very interesting about what you think the role of culture is in society. so you'll find me what role does culture play it plays and will really comes to the discipline. lead comes tomorrow, as when it comes to will behave the so called such

a gets suited into the young people. it has to begin from home. for example, me, i'm a long you buy tribe of good enough from cassettes to from west and you're going to, my mom is from the east. so when you get to see that typically munitions you think i've mentioned in my, my, the language. yes, i know like me, i can speak with on, you know, i to and i mean know, then you're going to can speak the language, but why i might be able to do all this because my father told to me from day one if he grits i do not need to annual and reapply him, i'm fine, you're going to get a smack when your head. so if you're speaking of this at the end, because really does a speaking of them that you should be with young people, the issue is actually with them. okay, so before, before we addressed the issue in totality, i just want to understand, you know, because not everybody lives in a cultural home. so what does that look like for you is that when you're having best days, is it when these marriages, when do you really feel this culture? cochise actually felt during traditional ceremonies that is doing in the cold weather, calling nicole among the the grandeur which i do should know marriage. so the only time i would know that a good me see exist properly is when there's

a tradition tomorrow. and then these old does, would tell us to dress like tradition was under the option of dressing that tradition where now that means that we are only shown and we are meant to believe that culture should only be to be portrayed during traditional ceremonies, right? if you come dressed in your skin, you punch, i will actually send you over. but you cannot tell me to come for a grand putty and you expect me come, dusty no, go me see what are you trying to on? because that specified ya shown us are going to say is the traditional effort, traditional you're going to go there, gave me, i'm all right. so let's move to phrase here for a little bit because you come from an extremely traditional home and what it's talking about here is nothing new for you, right? but you have a very different interpretation of you tell us a little bit about the, my grand my that would where, how good may see every time it felt like it was the only just senior. and then that i had a great grandmother who would do the exact same thing my mother way as have gone messy to almost every function she has been invited to have gone up in the home. that's very or each additional you have to kneel when you agreed you have to kneel

. when you saw, you have to do such and things the way they are meant to do your clothes as opposed to be a set in height, as opposed to speak. your language as opposed to it's so culture to a point that they've been gender roles attached to men and women because of call to, you know, culturally a mind is like a good. we see him as he's out there. and so if i'm talking to him, i'm going to be kneeling. that particular parts of the chicken that only the mind it's and as a woman did she didn't it, ma'am and also well growing up. i used to see my grandmother refused to say she can because you know it's meant for the man. but i'm going to be like, i don't want to do all that. yeah. okay. oh wow. well, gabrielle gabrielle. gov, it's right to misinform, you know, we are a coaches will say a to that is coach where the stranded because of the political question. we don't do guns by choice, we have your guns, despite the virtual quote, you know, and you'd see, we have both together noted by our choice knowing because that we decided so

because you have mixed up, someone comes here and the cutting, your incompetence is a pushed all of us, and it will gone to here where it's, what do you mean when you say cultural incompetence these, you know, you know what to what type of the testing may so say at, and you do eat i, i find it. does that mean competency and mice will say it? yeah, and it will go into a policy with respect to women to difficult to the biggest when to wait a minute. because even in the iraq of our kingdom would default most big offices in the king don't belong to women with land title and do a story that takes to eat. for instance, i contend, hold on, let me let, let me, let me, let me, let me, let the bundle women speak for themselves. of course that's as non just it's everywhere. and then just begun to move on to get married. and when did she come out to see the people? she's not even allowed to just go around talking anyhow, leave the queen of the kingdom of, of us. oh god,

she's not even allowed to go talking to people. any holly, do you know that our queen can't even stay in the same kingdom with the king because we've been as supposed to be treated a sudden kind of way to maybe it's broken up by the probably, i mentioned the government, we do have people there. but if he's talking about, but kingdom i think is missing point. okay. all right. all right, before we make this, the debates about demand buses remain. let me come to you under because when we was speaking, you made the point that's look, what are we even defending? what's culture like re, laws and rules? if we have funded, we include came up with them. how far back to they go. tell me a bit about that as an idea, i believe co changed the way of life at the problem is that most of the terms are not talking about content and efforts already talk about it in a traditional way we talk about to, to a, to where at, for example, like we may tell you that we are in the cartridge center because the couple of vets and, but codes hayes more than that. it's the 4 digits. what we say is though we talk so

when you look at africa sense, what kind of nice. oh those he has back. and you look at to, you look for it, got to do what exactly are we trying to praise? of like, i mean, we're having this conversation in english 4 step has and 15 of codes, 15, both color chaise language. if we're having this conversation in english, uh, if most of us are wearing this gaps, which we do not even know why they can from known to adding the hides and skins, what are we still trying to defend? okay. alright, let me give henry a chance. henry, by the way, is a veteran general and also an educator in lots of edition this, i would like to support what to make, what he has just said on the long within. that's really what's that's from. i think my concerns is yearly, is neglected. language is completed because of wisdom language is what i mean. can you say that? because yeah, in kampala, majority of the people don't speak english also. he, me, they speak again to just to speak to the grand and most of people young complex

because they've gone to but that's sort of traditional language. we're going to come with junk from kind of more consistent from the co enjoy the thought or the low income, but i never list out there can't speak to the traditional indigenous language. how do you might've been with total speaking a total income, but a deeper seek you, i read a job. first of all, you're not indicated number 2. and because of that, and then to list and along with these english is now coming into your say, your friend does come in read because coming. so the over saturday ever seen, you started it because i'm this ones you must pass english to be say, to be seen on each bus. and so i am just feeding sorted for that. you don't find a many i told easy to come part us. we've got choice, okay. alright, the window. yes. the issue is people should emulate who they are and be proud and be what the language to decode to just like language is the issue of choice. no one has ever been listed in this country. if we're speaking the language known as ever, been edited for addressing what, oh the,

some things came because of bodies in college i. yes. you know, tradition is we've been having bodies like ways things. we've been having a tool that the woman is not supposed to connect x, but it does not do it any way. it is not within our lines and do, but anybody got it is be tested. it woman is supposed to be treated like any other human being, but those, the more than these smoke, i mean, yeah, to screw us up, they get and people tend to bid the body, but the both us to preach the body goes book to make us make as you, we are pushing women to drill, right. okay. i'm okay. okay. okay. okay. okay. let's settle this chicken situation on watson. okay. because i don't want to talk about it again. yeah. let me give you a chance to respond because the raise your hand them to, to get a, get me to of the whole thing cause out to tell you, i agree that's it's, it has been a general politically mean africa in uganda as well. we meant even as he stated on everything, his argument, that's the female, he does things in positions,

but trust me both the melody does us too much in their lives. why? because of, because as to why that back then because at the previous codes as so kim saying that the remainder of actually being included, it has always been a general problem. go to any traditional home i wouldn't mind is marginalized. okay . but let me let, let me, yeah, let me ask, let me ask a question that's underway is, you know, when we talk about culture, it's just the general evolution of a people. so when you say previous cultures, when does a previous culture and then begin. now the pri best call, so i would say is how they used to be here in the past days. right now it's an evolutionary and error. the season is of this i never, i never really shouldn't happening right now. so as africa issues and stuff, the blame game of the worst time cost agent for wasting us, we have these very resources, we have the internet, we have all these things. how many times when we open up the reconstruction gala on africa and flushing show that is green viral? no, no one is really by the problem is new to the west coast. so we need to check the exact plus the i get to point a when to do one of the things i've had so much

already is everyone is talking about when that thing about the government see as a traditional address and then the kinds that was the tentative for me, but when these things are not even designed by the end to begin with, the government. so wasn't designed by gun to and may that is its material from yeah, they measure you raise from usually the india and even the materials they kind of these from india. so one does force that has that's not even not traditional address. someone give it to west the the, the, the so, so you see that's why it comes in. so it's them why reading called zone the oh and this is all they have told us, this is all they have told to us nothing else has been told to us. you understand that right away from the culture and they drove us with them. so what we know, i know they're telling us he's known culture, even them so the people themselves are reading cause it before they blame with an

expression about the language. just being aware that because i'm going to zation, let's talk about into marriages. which language of a child supposed to land growing up? so these people who came before us eroded culture and now the blaming modernization because all of known as cultural alta is go messy them with shannon now that tons. and if he's telling me today, you want us to wear back cloth and look up, make it okay, that's the, that's henry henry henry, that's a good question. i just want to come to for a 2nd because there's an important point. the phase is really raising that will also adapting a what to down version of some kind of culture. so, so what do you have to say to that, you know, look into the future. should we blame young people for not taking on what we now know as our culture? i think we're not comfortable having to be, but we have to blame the international communities which has come up to unify that quote and get the global who to, to know and it could go mean, how do you know what to put there that you said that to kind of be punished for

look along with the sort of truth. so me, i was punished place for speaking my local down, which you know, those days there's no to put the address when you yeah it. but the new thing to get that to a phone speaking go look along with the new compound. so yeah. been what 2 did come by and african along with these local along with this in. but you can ok that started. let me hear from catherine and then i'd like to get some thoughts from the back please. i would like to set that to 1966 prison. no to no, but to abolish the kingdoms. so that was the beginning of the end as receipts. so when uh the kingdoms, uh balise the well later, reinstated by him was 7 in 1993. so you can see the got the yes before not but to think i do show that kingdom is close. you don't know, is your king, you, your princess, you're just there. right. and then when it's come, some something dumbs with no tree established, for example, the unclear king the way i come from. so i don't know where the king is. i don't know, i have the princess, i love it. princess somewhere. i don't know where she english is mostly. oh, think connecticut. that's why you indicated to nothing about your culture. so for

example, what i love now is what i find on the funding the village. but that is not necessarily what they practiced in the 1900 rates. so it has been changed and seems like you're in the gun that was still has your culture and your kingdom and your team. i have none. right. okay. uh, let me, let me, let me ask for a funny important question here. uh which is that? yes. what is the importance of these simple things of uh oh, are you guys hitting one each other? all right. so what is the importance of all of these symbols? in culture, because like you're saying, you know, the kingdom, does it have a place in more than this society? it does mean that you can, has a king, a king as the older rule. so it does have a pleasant modern society. but it doesn't have to be too rigid to change some of the practices you understand. we're not saying that culture should go away. we just think they should adapt to the more than

a session where we are trying to adapt. they should not judge the ones who are adapting you understand. so now when i show up for patsy in my high sleeve dress and dates, which edition of i think it shouldn't be a crime that i'm not wearing a good missy. you understand. we're just saying they do have a place in the modern society, but they should be ready to adapt. okay, for the look at what level do we adapt to? because it sounds to me like we want to do all the things that are easy, the clothing this and when he was around married to naming children. what about politics? what about medicine? yeah, somebody p a. yes. so what is supposed to be a good, good me, according to me, i think like modernization to a good a bus and it does not affect go to really much because you can do you go just as long as you are doing, you can be with your phone, you can do anything which is more than as long as preserving your call, just because it's your traditional thoughts. you can just and your traditional way as you're using the internet as you own what's up you're doing. and then one down

thing you want to do, you can, you can't do anything like anything given the local dreams, the risk or what. but it is, even though we, we are both of these, it's of the guns why we're doing that on culture. because when you go to school, 1st of all, the wanted to speak english throughout when you speak to a local language is up, but didn't like the want to put an issue. so you'll be, we've all these see how you'd be like, and then there's this and then there's this thing of it does when you speak. so africans, you speak, you look along with like i'm, i'm actually, i'm speaking out to someone say, this is just going to be like, no, me. when i speak, i told you that going to tell me every time i speak i truly among but does it be like so the thing is like bullying by follow up with guns you. so if you don't fix that along with, but then maybe you will get a new, a traditional food among your fellow applicants. maybe you'll get in greens, they wanted to get chicken accepted. they wanted to get tips with they didn't know

before. when you bring your group up, are gonna be like, what your vet, my step smoking. you, you see itself, it comes to a contributing to the things you can do. but then this uh the uh, the same thing. so yeah, oh, okay, i like that. all right, so you don't have to to stay traditional but also stay more than there was some views of the back there. yeah, let's come here. so coach wiley the days before, oh, mine was expected to go back home quote for the husband to go the trip. but this days there is a 6 to walk home and as to which walk that's been as to where to walk. so they come booklet and have just go buy food. then we also talk about the family, say teen parents these days. they grow up to look into that kids in english or their kids or somebody that yeah, when doing to maybe language. i really just the cognitive and couldn't get to that, you know, does the grandparents and that is a really a big problem. okay. so for you, it's about language, it's about social structures and sort of the rules in that society. i liked that

there was some of the points here. i think we're speaking about the impact of western edition towards our daily lives as your guidance. and we want to want to look for the nice by adding equity, by adding a, what is this part of our culture? that is westernized, it shouldn't. why did he dropped from the, from the western loads. we are looking at the implication to western lives towards our very own live though we leave here in oregon to i think we're losing the contents of this topic. okay. alright. alright, let me, let me, let me, let me come back to give you for a 2nd, but before i do right, i think it's fair to say that so far, what we are agreeing on is a call to sort of seeps into one another, right? we adopt and we let go of some and we adults in blackboard some right. and so now i want us to talk about it in practical terms. here you are really defending traditional culture. what are some of the things we have for you if they did not exist a totally new life?

it just wouldn't be the same culturally. it's to a major role to the elders, to make sure the children get to know the identity as the various tribes. like maybe my father, good up to similar new. so should i the parents teach that you've been. their language is as well as involved as they learn to english from school. so from home you have, there was just them that language now coming to the kind of food we as africans need to appreciate all food as us. so now if you go around the streets of comp i left and go to annual turn on us for my last long, which is under then for you. and how do you find the trait? and yet we keep seeing you at cochise dang culture. thank the very same person cooking these more done foods and doesn't even take the initiative to cook this local food is to complain about the origin of culture by wished on mondays, not even in your heart. okay. but let me ask 100, is it fair to expect? i don't know how long it takes to cook my la, but some of my traditional foods, you need hours over the stove. does that make sense with the kinds of schedules that we have as time moves on?

and as we evolve and p coordinator things, some of these things we want to have going to, it should be let go cause, i mean, why are we doing so have to keep some of these things. yeah. like we, it's important to keep some things, but it's important when those things are relevant. alright? but my question is, if we allow so many things to die out and sort of full by the wayside, what's going to support rates us from europeans from asia is from americans. africa was set up to forget to go to. i don't know if they intend to do it, but the way off are kind of set up when most african countries usually have that one city, which is usually more developed than that. yeah, that is that people come in and start talking to get at the moment you started mixing. it's so hard to maintain that code. so when you, you'll mixed up. so it's always up to everyone. we use that tool to add to the mentoring codes that i told them, no one does that. okay, so how do we maintain cultural? i'll come to you, but how do we maintain culture, you know,

way that doesn't feel or press the faith in a way that feels like you have a choice. if you want to wear your official clothes, if you want to wear whatever it is or it's whatever it is that you want to be deducted by your family, by the way, what would happen if you told your family you no longer want to follow the customs and i wouldn't want to know i'd would happen. i really wouldn't want to know, cuz that would mean you feel getting way. why are your deserts and you know, people just like to be like the white people which is going to is not practicing the culture's. does it mean i'm not a super cool anyways, but how do we maintain code so we can constantly remind the children that ok, traditionally this is how we cook the smell. the smell is prepared like these. traditionally. i know that, but i don't have to cook, they send me every day for me to be called to in the home like this, some homes where my took it like my home. my took it must be cooked. i took it when you played. it comes with a stick of things in your hands, and after you've failed, you've failed. you have to squeeze it. you're squeezing hot banana leaves. and yet

i could just cool grace. i'm surprised then. so let's make it. we can mention culture in a way that we have to understand that you are teaching the child, but you do not have to force the child to do what you're teaching them every day. it becomes a punishment. we will now set to look at the culture as a punishment instead of looking at it in its beauty. yeah. some verses of the back here. the more than one of these 13 that's it's, it works for you quick. if i'm sick, i'll go to the hospital, they're giving me taps, but we bucks these, my grand, you would just go to the bush, pick something that would work for him. there's no, i'm going to pick up and go to the motion, pick pets, because they have to go through the whole speaker and do that. sometimes we even feel like now going back through the quiz me. i'd have to stay and come up with a couple of days, so good. have everything go good to send them out, get everything there for like a need. but then when you told me to go back to the village with granny could, he's going to told me to go to a good thing. we okay. so this is interesting. so in order for culture to exist,

that has to be a hardship too much more than convenience is, is not good for culture cream to kind a. all right? as we conclude is, can you please move this way and move it? as we conclude, i want to ask a simple question, how do we make sure that we're not losing the best possible culture to western aviation or to global life? so let me start with you henry. i think we need to so to view our, our curriculum, our curriculum, nothing. instead of going to ki, i in uganda, but focusing on africa as the coordinate. the black pupils you forgot to we, that's a bit the what black people we need, the curriculum that raises assess themes, the black people. it's very unfortunate because i don't want to know for me to call india or whatever which country in europe and countries i've ever dropped it. i've got a new cottage, i don't know whether he's the one twice ever seen yours, then that is even the using for election. you know, for your i understand it best, you know. so you monitors, for example, you have been to best den with us out addition to your motors. so my concern is why

really go every single to there was than what, as if you're doing, we're doing with the exist, i've tried it. so i, we need a new set of bus that promotes our own indigenous culture in digging us in order to induce us exist as and above or the block of people. all right, so a kia, how do we retain our african identity and culture even as we participate in the global? well, the best way to do this is let's accept that this a lot of change happening as us weekends get something that we identify ourselves with. what we believe as we know, that is that the way we eat the way we dress and have each moving forward. and this comes from the roots of our parents right at home. mister blooming, there were some costs. have you had called saves beauty for like ladies and gentlemen, how would you see somebody told you what causes a, do you know, as long as the cost is between you to accept as an mc was be to pay. so vivian busted us up. we want to see it all right, face, i think maintaining culture sets with you. the person is supposed to each and every

one of us. we will have called his have seen growing up. and if we want to maintain these causes, we carry them on you and your family should book to seal culture the way you want to. but as you practicing your culture, you should also remember that the world is getting more definite, right. and finally, under the beginning, we did say that you said, you know, what is it to preserve, having had everything that's been said, have you changed your mind to let when we say that for 10 coats as being influenced, we do not have to forget that african coach hazel, se influenced people. it was swept like today. people are listening to a lot of up for beads. chris brown, is there anything god forbid, music and no, because they are listening to what f k is doing, and they're trying to do it. so we are, as we are being influenced us the influence thing, someone. all right, thank you very much. well, we did ask if the applicant culture is being erased or being threatened by westernization. and the answer today is of culture is the process of doing a teaching. but what i did here as well,

is that what i mean not new to more set in another way. he who leaves the culture is a slave. thank you for watching. the, [000:00:00;00]

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