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new president, in what would be one of his last meetings just i was off to attending the president's integration. he and his body guard would killed in a strike on his residence in tehran. nia was the political face of hamas. the militant islam is carried out via october 7th terror attacks on israel nea had not lived in guns for several years. but ron, how must from cut to where he lived in exile, he became the palestinian prime minister in 2006, and continued to rise through how mazda is ranks eventually becoming its political chief in 2017 mazda is gone and lead. yeah, he, us in law is believed to have been the most the minds of the october 7th. the tax was near represented. how much internationally and moved around the region for diplomatic meetings. he was
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a key player in negotiations to stop the fighting in gaza. some via he's killing will be a may just set back to achieving peace in the region. near death came just i was off to israel said it killed celia. hezbollah come on. the forge screwed in they would be attacked, also kills at least one woman and 2 children. and we did thousands. israel says it targeted shopping in retaliation for a rookie to attack on this soccer field in the is really occupied golan heights, the cube 12 children and teenagers. isabel blamed his beloved and wound the military boot. it would pay a heavy price. so crude had been one of his beloved, needing military figures since it was established by iran, revolutionary god, move in 4 decades ago. and off to the israel. how must will broke out on october
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7th, so quoted was accused by his right of being behind many of the drone in missile attacks that his belie loans to against israel. so crude is the most senior has block amanda to be to since 2016 when most of the bad reading the groups minute 3 come on . the in syria died in an explosion in damascus. global lead us via the depth of to see me and he does, of is around the greatest enemies when tensions were, where the boiling point could now from an old, out regional bowl and for the league as now. and when we're bringing our correspond to rebecca river, she's in jerusalem. rebecca we, i understand that the prime minister is really just gave a statement. i'm talk us through what he meant and also perhaps what he did not sit as well. yes. of course he, he addressed the nation a short while ago with a very short address around about 5 minutes in which he did not directly mention
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the, the assassination of isabel. yeah, honey, but that's of course, no surprises round has a long history of not commenting on these targeted assess the nations is very unlikely that we will hear official confirmation from the is right. is it any point? but he did sort of no to it. he said that is round head deliberate, a crushing blow to iran, proxies and racing days. so the signaling there that there was multiple blows. he said that is all is facing very challenging days ahead, but that they were prepared for any scenario. he mentioned, you know, threats coming from 3 fronts that being how most, uh, his blogs and the hooters in him. and, but he said that israel would be prepared for all scenarios. he said that anybody who threatens is around in any way would exact a very high price. and he also went on to talk about achievements, israel's achievements throughout the last months,
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which he said would not have been. it would not have been possible, had he given up to public, giving into public pressure and quit the military activity that has been the israel has been undertaking. he finished that address by saying we will fight and together we were winning. and rebecca, we know this is males, india, he, he was a, a key figure in the negotiations regarding a possible ceasefire between him us and is re also with his death. where does that leave the idea of as each by, as well? cause that is a huge concern, not just for his riley's across the country, a family members of course of the hostages who are desperately hoping for that c 5 deal so that their loved ones couldn't be returned. but it's also warring for the united states a and we heard as well from a mouse official speaking, and tyrone who said that they had been close to a deal, but pretty much hinting to the fact that no more negotiations would be taking place
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during this time. now the us have come out to say that they believe that negotiations are still the best way forward and that they still possible as saying that israel is still prepared to continue negotiating. but whether or not they have a partner on the other side, as you say, is male honey. i a big a very key central figure in those negotiations and considered somewhat of perhaps more moderate than some of the other most come on. does name like yes yes, in want and gaza so you know, without him being able to play a pump in his role, they've got katasha and egypt k negotiating teams as well along with the us coming out saying that, you know, this obviously the situation that we're facing can make it very difficult to continue in the negotiations and make it unlikely that hi my sort of grades. so that's a very, very difficult days ahead. we'll just have to see what happens in the coming hours and days. it'd be, it's rebecca raters with the ladies from jerusalem to night. rebecca, thank you. i want to go now to brian could to less he is a senior fellow for
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u. s. foreign policy at the middle east institute in washington, dc. the schools is good to have you with this. so with the span of a week, we have seen the death of a top commander for hezbollah. we have seen the death of a top leader for her mos. how close are we to a triggering a wider conflict in the middle east? i think we're quite close, but we've been there for quite some time. and some would argue that there is a regional conflict that's already happening. got that lucy's and young man that had been attacking not just shipping in the red sea for months, but also his real with some rockets. you've got a reading back militias in both iraq and syria threatening the united states as well as israel. and then there's these tit for tat exchanges with his beloved escalade. ready in part because of this incident last saturday. so in some sense the word is already become regional. it's something that the by the administration has tried to avoid. and even with these 2 dramatic strikes by israel,
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the one and they root in the one and say run, it remains an open question of whether or not is real, is any closer to restore in some semblance of strategic strategic deterrence. it seems not in the united states, unfortunately, i think looks largely like a bystander these days, 2 events that are driven mostly by actors in the region that have more of an interest in using violence to advance their means. ben, diplomacy at this point, what did you make today with the us secretary of state? it said that the us had no knowledge or involvement of the the killing of the her moss leader lead. does that tell us that american influence over is real, is anemic, at best right now as well, it's always been that because there's rooms leaders were going to respond to 2 main things, the security conditions, they feel their country faces. and then 2nd, the political pressures domestically that they get from their constituencies
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related to security and other dynamics. so you want us leverage over as real, as we've seen in this debate over the cause of war, is often overstated and debates here in washington and america. and europe, but israel is going to set its objectives in a, in a clear way. now the challenge here is that i think that yahoo in his own way looks we can vulnerable he didn't prevent the october 7th attacks. his country's being attacked on a daily basis. you can't get the hostages home yet through this diplomacy. and the diplomacy for a ceasefire deal seems to me to be a bit further away from for coalition after the strikes. so this poses a dilemma also for the israeli leadership. the simple fact that they've not being able to improve their, their own security conditions. but would you agree with me that that when the drums of war in israel continue to sound, that is, that's a insurance policy. if you will for nothing yahoo that the t will remain in power.
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and that's what he wants or well of, that's part of that. i mean, the big thing that's keeping that yahoo and powers israel's own internal divisions . and they've got a very complex political system. yahoo himself is probably the most unpopular leader of the system of israel as seen in a long while. but now they connected has gone into some sort of recess for a while and seems like he's sustaining himself. i doubt, you know, the problem with that yahoo is that he does not have from my vantage point, a clear vision. it's realistic about how to protect is barely came here to washington last week and gave a speech that sounded like fantasy lance, a middle east, that i don't hear when i go to the region. no one is going to sign up for his vision for a regional coalition to go after a ron or his conception of a postwar guides, a situation that does not include a state of power. so in some ways, you know, he presents a,
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a vision that maybe he thinks is realistic, but is delusional to most of his neighbors. blanca phyllis and senior fellow in the middle east institute in washington, dc. because we appreciate your time and your analysis tonight. thank you. great, thank you. for hundreds of fellow citizens marched through west bank cities. in the wake of this mile, he is killing their anger was reflected in rallies across the region, while israel's allies urged all sides against escalating conflict. even for the open support for how much leadership is van into milan. but now people are angry about the death of its political leader. he took the, rejects the assassination of each man here. and the strike convey weeks which was in the discuss anything his lead is according to these things unexpected. then this is the people who, what is uh,
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what has it on last night the feeling they'll funny a has been condemned across the board and beyond. the $311.00 and human focused on entered on heat on leadership has about 2 events. honey is dead. these we have to get to crushing, responds because it is neither a piece making no negotiate to consider as it sounds superior to everyone and consider as only its own interest. it's heartbreaking for us and it was about guess was mounted on to our room on our soil. it's very sad. the strike has brought into a national cause for restraint to avoid further escalation. you didn't try it on
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the yet any decision taken now to ease the situation or inflame it further a vast so again, cool is responsible parties, especially on iran, to use maximum restraint and to de escalate in the interests of the people in the region and the mention in the your is right believes it has inflicted crushing blows to eat ons, proxies, tomas and his beloved and sees it will respond forcefully to any attack. well, i'm going to go now to a journalist kareem alga harvey. he joins us from the root in lebanon, dream, it is good to see you this evening has bullet confirmed the death of its military commander in that targeting. this really strikes israel has claimed responsibility . what response do you expect? we will see from his pals as well. that's the big question. this should be wary of
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all the nice window. austin. what was it with his bullet now to it? then what we'd be, the answer is, right. there's a v fee or $2.00 that we enter into a spiral of escalation is never done in the middle. and when you see in the text yesterday on the actual cook, this really terry camacho from spoiler, you could argue that this was a military target. and this was in this range photos, was this the, the rules of engagement is between this is a lot in the israeli army military targets for military target. that means of, according to this logic, that is one of we looked for another military targets, but may not be in the, in the area, but see button settings, right? because this attack was, of course, in the woods pots with the for the area. and for the patient is the desk of the $40.00 to $3.00. this is for an idea. there might be
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a completely new replacement. yeah, i was going to ask you, i mean in terms of the immediate future, i'm phase of his beloved and him last. they appear to be tied to night to what the leadership in t, ron decides. how do you see that? that's what i mean. what is the that the, the still the, this was the minute to come on the 1st bullet, but the bishop say is right. we have that not only from the, from this one, but also from the reading from the who sees in gaming. and of course from most pledges for an harsh onset know all this organizations and for course a sponsor by do it on the scene. call the excess of resistance against this red. but that's on to nope, nope, that the and coordinate themselves on an offer it to me to show you maybe. but that's exactly what we might know that we,
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we have maybe some kinds of on. so that this is the top. nope. we have all the sites we called, you need the retail operations to find the answer. the in the logic of all these groups is hard enough to deter it. is a form for the operations, has cleanings, if the kinds we have seen it just to be nights and of course, that theresa very dangerous situation in korea, we can only imagine what the level of shock must be in tehran. the fact that is air strikes was able to target one person to whom us leader of successfully in kill him . and that speaks to a massive, massive security failure, intelligence failure with in iran, what psychological impacts is that having or could that have on his bullet and it's leadership. i mean, that's a message. it basically for all this members,
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excess of the excess of resistance that they, when they go to it on the, to the people there they are. let's see. so i think this is one of the main visitors, right journal. the 3 males are hard with the latest from the root and 1199. the room is always thank you the wrong it has failed to take revenge for the killing of these. my, of any of the assassination was a massive security breach. and a huge embarrassment for iran leaders and every tele agent could come in several different for the amount of them in my room, if as the what could the response from the run look like had to and how far does take on really want to go tensions in the middle east were already high up to israel's assassination of hezbollah. as top commander felt you cool in by roads. but incidents have intensified caused by israel's enemies, but retribution. but expert site you're on fleet is one to avoid
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a war with israel. and an outright attack seems highly unlikely, backed by the united states. israel has the middle resources at the ready, including an army of some $170000.00 active duty soldiers. it also has an advanced air force with some $205.00 digits, plus the well tested and done rocket defense system. on the run could also ask its proxies in the region to step up their activities. hezbollah could launch a massive garage of missiles at israel, from lebanon, similar to the one iran launched in april. that unprecedented attack of some 300000 drones, was largely repels. but some managed to penetrate beyond done system, causing damage inside the country. lost the us intelligence, estimated that hezbollah has over 100000 rockets at the ready has the lot could also carry out a strong code. civilian targets within is riley territory. this isn't much less
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likely possibility, but a much more serious one. an attack of this kind would almost definitely lead to an even further escalation. bit of runs, retaliation weren't necessarily happen on his ready soil. aside from hezbollah, 11 on the run back to a number of allied militant groups across them, at least in iraq, syria, casa, and in yemen. the test on is now already encouraging the islamic resistance and the rock. a coalition of militias to step up its attacks on us targets there. after months of calm the red sea gibbons who the rebels have been carrying out the tax on ships. it claims a link to israel since the beginning of the gas, a conflict. the assassination of is male, hon. yeah, puts a run in a difficult position. how to respond the way which show strength and restores
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deterrence, but at the same time, avoid an all out war with it. sworn enemy, israel we're going to be here in the studio. is our chief international hedge of richard walker, richard littlest. let's talk her way through what is happening here. we've got is real time of responsibility for the attack that took out that has bullet commander . it has said nothing about the attack that took out her mouth leader that attacked the happened on it, really in soil. so what's, what's the message that is real sending? yeah, so obviously it's a caged message because as you say, these riley's adult, really talking about the attack on is mail him yet, but it's obviously an open secret and i think the romano multiple messages being sent that on the one hand, of course, the attack on the his beloved commander in bainbridge was retaliation for this attack, then hit the golan heights just so the weekend with a dozen 1000 casualties. so. so in a way that is
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a straightforward message of retaliation. but there are wide to messages here. and the fact that they were able to target, i knew when he was in terror, you know, so no matter where you go, you're not safe. if you attack us, we will attack you. you know, of course any a holding on you responsible for the october 7th, partly responsible for, for those terrorist attacks that the launch this whole spiral of 5 or 5 minutes that we're going along. what, but i think was very wiring for a lot of people around the world woods so, so the europeans for the americans read. and of course with the, for the region is also the message, the as well as sending that is prepared to risk escalation to that it is that it is pushing on. and i think that is part of what makes this moment so unpredictable because now it's okay a we entering back into a really dangerous escalates res borrow. cuz we, we can only imagine what the leaders into a run must be thinking right now because they,
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they have to feel incredibly vulnerable. and so what will their response be? will it be an extreme retaliatory act, or will they become paranoid and think that this is an existing show threat all of a sudden they have to run from okay. the 1st thing we should say is that we don't know north yet. this is a very unpredictable situation, but it is incredibly embarrassing for iran. is mohammed, he was that guest and the supreme lead to a total of them and they said that, you know, pretty much straight out. the revenge was that duties that that would be harsh punishment. for as well the killing would equal to the, i guess, you know, home. so there is this sense of iran having lost face. i mean, not just that it happened that, but that happened on the day of the no duration of the new president. we had international degrees or right from outlook from, you know, countries at least friendly, but they've run taking part in that so, so it's a huge slap in the face for wiggins that the assumption physically this been ongoing and i think this is, you know, we've seen evidence for this,
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the iran doesn't want to for all that well with israel. one with united states might come in, one in which his beloved would have to be massively activated and might end up getting destroyed in the process of that. taking away in iranian lever and in the region, iran economy is in big trouble, is just going through a political transition with a new performance president coming in who have any has limited scope to effect policy, but very public. he wanted to try a new approach towards the west, so a lot of unpredictable things that he did it wrong today, i believe is real, but it also put the united states in that category. and it's interesting. the state department today said the secretary of state said we had no knowledge, we were not aware of no involvement of the attack in tehran, so it makes you wonder how involved is the us really. and how much influence does the us really have over, is real? well, i think this yet again, confronts the united states with the limits, events,
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influence, you know, those comments from blinking of why they've been understood to show that the sort of degree of impotence. i mean, we just had benjamin netanyahu in washington last week, and z is riley's know very well that the us prime objective of this entire situation is to avoid further escalation to anything happening that could be interpreted escalade tree, i think is a great concern to the americans, the americans public. he wanted these readies against targeting a route in retaliation for the, for the golan heights attack these while these went ahead, ahead and targeted by a b route and to the attack or on near the killing of hun. you really came out of the blue clearly taking the americans by surprise. so i think this shows that the limitations, uh, the limits of american influence on the messenger who government, which has always been a problem for, for the americans being able to especially as the democrats to be able to deal with him. but also now we have an election sees in the united states, have
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a lame duck president, have a great uncertainty about where the united states is heading up politically. so this sense of american weakness in this whole calculation could likely only grow include the for another time. what about the notion of a ceasefire between his really and gaza? is that just forgotten now? well, as the categories, for instance, the angry. so they've been a key player and that a lot of those negotiations taking place in come to so you know, they're saying how can these well be serious about negotiations when is just killed? one of the key negotiate is on the i'm a side do you like the states currently has invoice and cut the it is saying, we still believe in this process. we're not giving up on that. and i mean from within the as well, if you're a major optimist, you might say, well, is rails declared objective is the destruction of how much. so if you take out how much is political lead to, then israel could be seen as one step closer to that could that give for the school
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