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the size of the nation as default as measured i will get started with how's the tvs fighting to remember as a post closer this weekend on dw, the us last week is really prime minister. benjamin netanyahu stood before the us congress in washington and put the regime in iran and its proxy fighters his bullet at abbas on notice. now it wasn't a declaration of war, but it was as close as it gets the word ceasefire was not uttered. not even once since then to man, his beloved commander and the political leader of hamas had been killed. iran, his blaming is real and vowing revenge us today said that it had no knowledge and no involvement in the killings. how is that possible? tonight america's influence over it is real. it looks mighty weak, nothing. y'all, whose ability to keep his word does not. i'm for
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a golf in berlin. this is the day. the exam is valid, executive and heavy price. any aggression guides to some, any arena the, the maximum equipment we had deputies through tool and painful operation. and it was supposed to happen. i consider what happened didn't run to be a conspiracy you mention with the reigning president. diamond is really a tough couple. i'm not going to speculate on what impact any one event might have the also coming up and trying for the positive spin. the us,
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as an escalation of the middle east conflict is not inevitable and that they cease fire between israel and come off is still possible. i think it's too soon to know what any of these reported events could mean for this, for our deal. but if i could add 2 points, one is that doesn't mean we're going to stop working on it. it's like we have a team in the region right now as we speak to try to continue to work with our counterparts to move this forward because it's that important to our viewers watching on tv as in the united states and to all of you around the world welcome. we begin the day with an angry and humiliated iranian regime bowing to take revenge against israel. on wednesday, iran announced the death of one of its closest allies. the top from us leader is my own media and assassination on the rainy and soil that the regime immediately blamed on israel. and the year was in a wrong to attend the inauguration of the newly elected the reigning and president
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. he was reportedly killed in a pre dawn, ears drawing that could end up triggering it. all of them were in the middle east. well, after the october 7th terror attacks last year. israel pledge to kill him, the and other from us leaders. but today is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu said nothing of and he is dead. but he said israel will exact a heavy price for any aggression against it on any front into a wrong. we can only imagine the shock and disbelief an air strike the targeted moss leader inside the rainy and capitol as revealed mass and failures by your runs intelligence. and it's republican national guard added the president to the equation along with the region that still cracking down on domestic defend. and you have a full fledged crisis in the islamic republic for its leaders. and for those proxy groups that allow iran to wield power across the middle east is male head. you agree? see ron new president and what would be one is his last meeting just sending the
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president sanction he and his body. god were killed in a strong the mack who me clearly we in demolition, brutal and painful operation. the case of almost all god willing with the efforts that the security forces have a pull to be given to the people as soon as possible was i should have i do my request is the necessary would be done yet. so those responsible don't feel like they can have that representative at the time of his day. i mean, it was the political face of him, of the military is the mr. goose bit carried out on october 5th. and tara attacks on israel from us spies is killed around 1200 people and took the 150 of his hostage nearly as nonsense. still held on you had not lived in gaza for several years, but ran from us from where he lived in exile for near a guy b. c,
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g 10. the 62 year old was a child of palestinian refugees from the village of dra. yeah. as he joined him, us when it was founded in 1980 stephen and was arrested in jail by israel. during the 1st intifada, the uprising again it's randy occupation. mia was exiled to live in on, but he would tend to get off the phone and 1993. i was like the 16, he became the palestinian prime minister in 2006, and continued to rise through how most his rank eventually become and its political change in 2017. mazda has guides a lead to yes, yes. and what is believe to have been the mastermind of the art turbo tax and media was seen as a more moderate this and how much just as easily as last several of his own family
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members and is really a tax on gaza, which have killed nearly $40000.00 people, some stain, 3 of her news sons and 4 of his grandchildren were killed. and at the time amelia insisted due with not a fix on going ceasefire and hostage told me it represented homeless internationally and moved around the region for diplomatic meetings. he was a key player in negotiations to stop the fighting and gaza. some fear his killing will be a major sit back and achieving piece in the range of israel has not claimed responsibility for honey is killing, but it's prime minister benjamin netanyahu spoke today about an earlier strike on the route that killed a hezbollah leader for lunch. you said vac schilling and others,
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and had shown that israel had delivered crushing blows to all of our enemies. and then yahoo said that his country is ready for whatever lies ahead. as citizens of israel, challenging days lie ahead. now that since the striking baby boots the threats sounding from all directions and we are prepared for any scenario, we will stand united and determines against any threats is very well exact, a heavy price for any aggression against this, from any arena, hold 0. actually. my 1st guest is certain 25 years in israel's defense intelligence community, and that includes being headed. it's a wrong research branch. he's now with the atlantic council and specializes in the middle east national security intelligence. i'm happy to welcome back to the program. danny, it's a trend of it standing. it's good to see you again. it's good to have you on the program. you know, as well as i do, the middle east has been a power cag for a long time. what do these 2 killings at the top of his below and tomas,
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what did they mean for the risk of it all? well, wider were breaking. yeah. well them send you having the i think that the as the describe the thing right to so we owned a branch of uh, severe escalation. and even that region of the war i think goes to events of putting us closer and closer as of only those to advance by the sweats. coming out from taylor, i'm and tomorrow we're here from the secretary general. first on this run up, talking about that as well. the nice thing is that we are, it's something it won't be contained in a way that maybe some intervene bind to us or the original superpower. and i think that the escalation is almost imminent. and i see that uh, we are close as we have a beam direct allows between enjoy that because by law and definitely between that is run anywhere on the places that you've ever been. what needs to happen immediately to pull both sides back from the brink, in your opinion,
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this associates the i am not a very good good use of thinking there is no, not enough that this thing that someone can take or do in order to prevent the reaction from you on our end, because by law we think jason against these rooms lubricating also i shall go and explain to me. i think that is what they have to absorb this friday. and then hopefully they put for him most of the time. right. what happens quoting, so vapor, and then if we're able to for live, then we'll maybe with time limit that the spot that maybe we can contain me. but the real problem, just the fact that it's not only the only even these will contain the current situation, but we have to remember that's without the ceasefire in augusta but that so we'll continue. and why both sides all 5 sites big with fire. i think it's safe to assume that even it will contain the chords installation in the future. one
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is just around the corner. so months we had a very both of the situation and i hope that after the retaliation of this, but let me run it to the end. it would be we thought you guys and i think they live on a tree. and they said that when we thought it, i hope that the international community was intervene, pressuring both sides to contain a future, right? we thought of issue because these not escalation, like i mentioned the imminent and without some of that will be the end of the day. will be able to contain the current situation where the final system is being the full stage war that nobody wants. but i think we are very close to be there. well, he is really prime minister last week when he spoke in washington, he gave a very long speech. he did not mention the word ceasefire once in his speech. and i know that israel promised after the october 7th terror attacks to kill, you know, the other hamas leaders. but honey, it was also one of the main point me and one of the main people involved in the
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negotiations about a possible seas for and also about a possible hostage deal. so it doesn't look like it's really, really wants that ceasefire to take place. is that your read on what? nothing yahoo wants as well again, it's very hot so easily. so i'm like 0. i've been trying to tell a dues when. ready assistive, especially if somebody else, but i would say this, i think that's uh, it's mainly the uh, from the civic product over it was obvious that these right we've been going to, it's our, him. but the main problem right now is that you mentioned is the fact that we have no other choice in that regard. those are reaching of ceasefire and i'm not sure that the killing is made. let me uh, would it get us closer to these problems that need to in, in terms of reaching that agreement, anita ron of negotiations. boma come us at the cutter. i think i'm like seeing
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a blog he was interested in the deal again is not a good many of the parents are very bad man, but if you want to release of hostages, things of kidding i'm you know, i'm not really getting just closer to where we want to be, i think now we have to wait a few the quote to you guys, hopefully a y, that's what we sort of deal. so the bottom of things i think, showing that in general terms of the civic was something is, wasn't sponsored too fast for the current situation. i'm not sure what the feeling and we promote bill as i'm sort of the thing that it was a sole one. but you have to make them see what's uh, how things with developing. ready the future, why don't i send them very pessimistic for the child support deals and the co into weeks and even months. you're saying that you're not convinced that killing amelia is going to be um, productive for israel for getting a ceasefire. the united states, the secretary of state said today that the us had no knowledge of the plan to kill
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any yet. and also it was not involved in the plan. that's hard to believe. but if that is the truth, what does that tell us then about the relationship between is real and it's most important and why the united states. and what does that tell us also about washington's ability to influence is re, to the same to those countries. let's close house 12 corporation between them. but those are independent, i think, is where the have to do depend is to take that event decision in order to prove it secuity but goes without saying the euro would need us back up, especially if we are the 2 ways we need to. ready or that is why i think it's imperative to make sure that the american administration know what is what he wants to do. know what, how is the wants of things to be develop? and i think we wouldn't be highly dependent, but them also because. ready in whether going towards or using the us to contain the pressure iran emphasis by us to do that. but this government not to escalate
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even further. the thing is that with god, i don't think needs to be the kitchen. how strong the cooperation is. of course of action is i think it's quite strong, but i think it definitely got. i think the administrative is heidi glory. it's once he's what he's doing right now. when did you with the situation in. ready those good lord and i think the pressure all sides because the give it is towards the future. okay. dennis and turn events as always we appreciate your time, appreciate your valuable analysis to night. thank you. thank you very much. well, immediately after the strike on wednesday morning, you're wrong bound to take revenge for the killing of is my of any of the he had come to tell you, ron, for the and all your age and of the runs the president. my suit possess, key on the president today, said that iran will, quote, defend its territorial integrity, dignity honor and pride, and will make the terrorist occupiers regret their cowardly act. i was and did
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a statement read out on rainy and television, the country supreme leader. i told her all the whole money directly threatened israel and claiming that it had laid the ground for a harsh punishment. and it was too, runs duty to seek revenge for the killing of you smiled. i need to know you had called about to leave. for a more, i'm joined now by ali. i told you john, director of the center for middle east and global order. he joins with you're not from right here in berlin. it's good to see you again. ron, promising to punish is real. but with in iran, leadership after the killing of honey it into a wrong. do you think that there will be consequences for this failure in intelligence and national security inside the wrong one in terms of the consequences? i'm not sure of but then again it's very clear that there are being such deficits and huge deficits on terms of providing security in terms of air defenses.
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and so it's a, quite a sure navigation for the iranian side, after all, a 100 a year was a top regime guess going to, to iran, to a time to the inauguration or the, or the president must have business john, and also meeting together with the as of the policy and his nomic jihad with the supreme leader of the doctor on the east harmony that then you know, to so powerful it's not real public or ron was not able to protect. one of these, she lives in one of his top gas. so there is a lots of pressure. now, i'm sure you know in the wrong to respond to that kidding. yeah, iran is bound to take revenge. do we know what that could possibly look like, as well as the new york times reports that were just published an
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hour or so ago is correct. um this morning when there was an emergency meeting of the supreme national security council, which isn't a lead buddy task to deal with vide so national security and foreign policy issues . at this meeting us supreme leader at harmony according to the new york times and its sources has ordered the wrong to strike israel drake. so difficult. this of course, would present. uh, you know, a huge escalation uh, potentially uh, but then again be made. see um, what we saw, what we saw on april 13th uh with the unprecedented said directs a sort of buyer on an as well uh, which uh, you know, there's a lot of confusion about that. but after, you know, at the end of the day, these various, together with the support of the united states and its regional partners, were able to defend israel quite strongly. so maybe this kind
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of, you know, scenario going to be repeated basically of being a show, a for us from the iranian side. but beyond that, of course, the lawn can activate different components of the so called excess of a resistance of who these and gammon with also launched a long range midsize, quite recently, a to ease well uh, but also pro iranian, amid dishes in iraq and syria, a truck to re char, giving you uh, the us military presence there. and of course, not least as well in the north of, uh, israel, but then again, potentially not to the extent of, uh, you know, the, i mean, at the end of the day, the dilemma remains that, uh you, your own, it has to, uh, show a kind of was face saving a response, but then again, it would be
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a huge risk to draw in the united states into the middle east war. and also creates a veritable northern front, between has the and the israel at the end of the which iran may news is crowned joel as well. let me just ask you about how boss and his beloved their, their faith and trust. in the radian regime. i mean, is it, it has to be shaken now or, or how do you see it was that there was some, you know, shaking credibility all along since october 7th, because of iranian reluctance to strike, you know, these rel directly. um, so um this particular credibility problem amounted to the kind of iranian director sold that we saw on april 13th. uh so again, um, yes, it's
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a credit ability problem for the song republic, both with its insides supports a base, but also most notes empty within the access of uh, you know, the so called access of resistance. uh, but the iranians uh, you know, the discredit ability problem has to be dealt with. uh, but then again we, we cannot forgot about there was a clear pattern of dependence, one sided plate. so that is disabled, has a mouse, right. the one sort depended upon a test runs support and not vice versa. ok, i'll wait until the new john director of the center for middle east in global order . we appreciate your time and your analysis tonight. thank you. good. seeing you again a thank you with the background to hunt e, as in kelly is the ward in gauze, and between who moss it is real. the us has been pressuring is really to agree to
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a ceasefire, but the israeli government has resisted and he is death makes a cease fire seemed less likely than ever. nevertheless, the body ministration thinks that it's still possible. i want you to listen to what the us national security council spokesman john kirby said about that today. we still believe there's a viable process. we still believe there's interested counterparts and we still believe that there are meetings and discussions to be had. we wouldn't have a team over there right now if we didn't believe that it was possible to try to gather, gather together and push this or let's stay in washington mail. good. our correspondent to bill dum, allowance. he's following the story for us. so janelle, weakness and fear, let's start with weakness. the fact that israel was able to possibly carry up his assassination, the fact that the us was unable to, to sway israel to do something differently. us influence on israel is anything but strong. is that what you are hearing right now in washington of
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the well, in a word brenda. yes. and the fact that the us did not know about this attack of dots according to the secretary of state and to me blinking. and that this attack was not co ordinated by washington, that kind of does seem a bit more indicative of the limited influence that the us appears to have. but it's also worth noting out that this idea that the u. s. has long been unable to exert influence on israel effectively. it's worth pointing out that that has been a discussion here for a longer time. the us for all it's a part of israel for it's a part of its military campaign for all the diplomatic cover that the u. s. has provided at the you when and the un security council, the fact that it's the by israel, in terms of health to get send off attacks off from iran. the us has been kind of like a passenger in district in it's been unable to press iran into
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a achieving certain kind of goals such as are appearing, appearing more restrained or getting more humanitarian aid into gaza. so prime minister benjamin netanyahu was just here last week. he met with bite and he met with harris. he spoke before congress and the white house also made it clear then that what they wanted to see was not in yahoo is a full backing of this ceasefire. hostage release field, he came and went without having given that backing. and that clearly shows you that he was not pressure to do that. but what everyone here is also aware of is of that benjamin then. yeah. who more than anything is motivated by domestic concerns, by domestic pressure is his personal ambition, perhaps his goal of staying in power. and that is a square the washington that has not been able to circle. yeah, and now let's talk about the fear. the big fear is that the united states will be drawn into a wider, more in the mid least. is there
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a sense in washington tonight that is indeed what could be happening now? i mean there is an argument to be made that saw that a wide or regional conflict was happening. all right, do you have the who sees and the red sea have bought it? rain and back to militias in iraq and syria. and these tensions between israel and has the loss, but of course, so the fear that this could motivate the iran and it's proxies to the exact so a very harsh response, of course, and a drag that us into a wider, into an even deeper conflict. of course, so that is a concern here now for now the white house is maintaining this line that a wider escalation is not necessarily inevitable john kirby, who or who's our quote we played there earlier in the show. he also said that today,
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but also worth noting that this is a region that is uh full uh, where in the us is uh, is, is very much of represented. the white house has been saved, that it still sees a diplomatic solution as the way forward for a more peaceful and secure region. but you can certainly tell that nerves are on edge here. yeah. yeah. i mean, a major the they're, they're taking the positive spin on this, what we'll see if that's where events indeed to take is janelle, in washington. janelle, thanks for your recording. thank the other day it continues online. you'll find this on the x, also known as twitter and youtube videos. you can follow me on social media, bring doc tv, and remember, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then everybody the
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this is dw news, live it from berlin. tonight, a warning from is real meant for iran. any aggression against a possible come with a heavy price for you. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu was remaining silent about the death of a key. randy and l y in top from us leader early this morning and say, ron ron is blaming israel for assassinating is my us. i mean, it is failing to take revenge. all of this happening just hours after and it's really strikes in love in the killed a senior has bullet commander israel lane to have him for a rocket attack that killed 12 young people in the occupied go one heights last weekend. and this is all adding to fears of a wider war in the middle east.

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