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the, the efficiency, the news life from berlin, historic prison. those faults between russia and west of nations. american nevada evans guest coverage is both coming back on american, sorry, by the president and vice president. he's on 20 for prisoners, swapped in the biggest dealer if it's kind since the cold war coming up. germany plays a critical role in this bob johnson, that when i show, say, is it close the difficult decisions to release the russian convicted of a kidding in berlin, described a states on september last passed folds and few enterprises. so in the interior, i protested, stick to the streets, calling on the golf one to act. we bring the latest from like us
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the, our british manager, welcome us to and mr. evans guest coverage is heading home from the russian jail. off to the historic prison. i exchange the president joe barton and come and vice president come to her is welcome guest coverage on the other american detainees. after they landed at andrews a base, just a short time ago, they flew in from chucky by the prison. the exchange took place by didn't acknowledge the difficult diplomatic choices that had to be made. and the key role us allies played in this well, the top is called this in for other countries. as against or media itself is very difficult to use.
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so the cumberland really is 16 people, journalist, incidence, and other, as course up intentions between the west and vladimir to fulton's, russia, west emissions have released 8 prisoners among them, a russian agent convicted of mazda in berlin. it's the biggest swap of its kind since the end of the cornwall 30 years ago. it's the news they've been waiting for in the wall street journal news room for full 191 days. that colleague the gentlest evan gasket, which has been freed from prison in russia. well gosh, give it. she is the best known. he's one of 20 full people entitled who were released from the the negotiations with complex and involved some of the difficult choices. we have me and another one who knows that assurance of jim and chancellor,
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olaf schultz played a key role in the swap. that's because the key fig of attending back to russia was this man vadim classic gulf. he was sentenced to life in prison for the 2019 the in the land of a georgian, who had for the long side, chechen minutes since it was a politically complicated decision for jimmy, not least because of the brazen this of the murder. it took place in broad daylight in it, but in puck, just minutes away from the parliament in chancery you know, try to talk to my nothing makes this decision to the cloth and the sentence to life imprisonment after only a few years in jail. an easy one says that the state's interest in enforcing the prison sentence had to be weighed up against the freedom and change it to life and limb of innocent people imprisoned in russia and those of just in prison and for political reasons. us president joe biden acknowledge gemini pivots who
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rolled in the deal are particularly on great sense of gratitude to the task manager and making them a required me to get some significant concessions. germany state originally concluded they could not do because the person question it seemed as something of a wind to both sides. and it's clearly something the russian president intends to make political capital. from a time vladimir putin made a rab public appearance, meeting days, returning to russia, the port and offering hugs, flowers and rome woods. while the day away stop the board in ukraine, old men broken ties between most given the west. it is some rag good news full of sights. and here it is, uh,
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deed up before they go despondent. judas identity with mol, on by germany, released the convicted matter as part of the prison, as well as well as we've heard from chancellor all of shows himself. it was not an easy decision to go ahead with this prisoner exchange. and the german government and shots himself had to weigh the state's interest in keeping someone sentence for murder in jail, with the safety, the health and the freedom of prisoners detains. and russia ends in belarus, and we have seen from how this has gone that the safety and the life of those prisoner has prevailed. and we've seen that uh 5 german citizens have also be been a freed. we've seen that russian political opponents of letting me have putting, has also been freed. and, but this also comes because all i've shown it's has also said of the friendship
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with the united states drew me wanted to show itself and solidarity with the us. but also because of a certain pressure we kind of imagine coming from the us counterparts trying to push germany to finally agree on this release. and this prisoner swap could not have happened in this scope had germany not agreed to release about him could i think of so several of the exchange prisoners, as you said, the german citizens, what do we know about them? so the one name that has been more prominent in the news lately is that a sequel key guy. he's a 29 year old german citizen who had been sentenced to death in bella. ruth, last june on accusations among others of terrorism and claims that he was acting on the orders of the ukrainian secret service, the ukrainian intelligence. these are all claims that have not been proven. and people think uh, we seen that uh, the german government had been relatively quiet on his case. they wouldn't go into
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detail when asked about it. and he was suddenly pardon, by the, by the russian president on tuesday. and these were all signs that were pointing to possibly negotiations going on in the background. uh, another german citizen is kevin nick. he is a german russian citizen. 19 years old. he had been accused of high treason and had been arrested when he was still a teenager. going to school, we also have 2 other german russian citizens, one a lawyer and a cycling activist in saint petersburg and another as a political scientists. and finally, one other german citizen who had been arrested on arrival in russia because he had found been found in possession of a 6 gummy bears containing cannabis. and he was accused of drug smuggling believe at the for the moment. but thanks so much for joining us. today indeed, the political correspondent join us on delhi and those are big abuto to if you're going to ship the drums as more from on this uh prison ice chain unit. letting me
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put in, made a class some months back that he was interested in the release of a binding caustic of y. why didn't caustic of place one of the most important roles, i think is these are swamped. and we know that to, to personally advocate that for him even admitted this and then to the interview and at the time put insides of across the gulf as a russian patry or has eliminated a terrible criminal out of law for his country. in reality, this path field is set to be a long time employ z over that option for intelligence service. who may have committed the mazda on the hall from the russian state um, for pro, to who worked as a secret agent service agent for decades and brought to facebook. and who has said on several occasions with why you see, but aside, which means in russian, we won't let our people alone with that problems for the sporting. it was the chance to say to other options, spies, hey, you can keep working for us. after all,
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it's not just my name classic of and it's not just the other intelligence people who we saw yesterday as if look at the airport, but many, many more abroad working for the russian states. the russian president also took the unusual step of meeting crossteck on the other alleged agents on the air field . what was the message you were sending? are yes, putting himself came to know cuz they are both yesterday evening last night. that is clea, a ugly, a signal, a off of on all he has shown and together was put in and it came high ranking security politicians, half of the domestic intelligence services board of the girlfriend type of the are off and for the intelligence service that he's getting at putting hawk to the middle of the road didn't cross. it goes even the for briefly and they will all see each other again soon. is it traveling wednesday? avoid that state on us? put in promise that the yesterday in the, in the hall of, of look at the airport and more on a is not possible. and of course,
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as it options at home in front of you to be a should see this look the president. and she's people have one, but this is also a single, i think because the rest of the world, russia can release its political prison. there is, but not all over that. because let's keep in mind that the small for should have taken place march at with alex and i've only off the old putting presumably didn't wants to release him. and this is also the biggest prisoner exchange with russia since the cold war. does it set some sort of a precedent as well? i think the we're looking at are really historic moment here. um these was the biggest exchange you've had. it seems like the end of the cold war involving not only many prisoners box, also many countries and west on countries dark. you're russia. and that's what happened before. and it shows that the politicians and secret services of these countries have contact with each other and maintain these contacts with each other
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on the cover. maybe as of this is happening regardless of what you create your care as playing a very important role as a mediator. and of course, we would like to see these kinds of successful also the possible gushing asians also 4 possible peace negotiations with ukraine. if they take place at home. one, they usually have a shuttle in riga. thanks so much for that. are now drawn by hunger of similar from the non profit come to extreme is in the project. tons, welcome what this entire prisoner swap have gone through. if a vadim cossick of want involved? no, i don't think that the shop was interested in any of the other individuals that were released. the key was this measure for rated 2 reasons. to make sure that he gets rewarded for being willing to be an assassin,
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but also to make sure that there will be future assassins willing to do that. and no sooner were those rational position. politicians on an airplane into freedom. a russian politician event on social media and set these old traitors and they better change the names with because we are coming after them. so yeah, the cycle will continue and for that to be able to continue, you need to get your motorist out of prison. rush as a fraud steward, s thing west and as and then releasing them in exchange for its own citizens. i mean, this has been categorized as hostage diplomacy. is that a fair characterization where i mean is host is negotiations? i think the word diplomacy is, you know, giving it a veneer of legitimacy that it really doesn't have what happened to you. it was very different from the cold war, where, based on spies caught by the soviet union were exchange for soviet spies caught by rested by the rest in countries. here we do have spies and murderous on the one
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side and opposition politicians and vista and citizens who being caught up in charge for lucas charges or sentence to lucas sentences for small infections. so there is no equivalence here in the exchange except a moral duty for us. then governance, protect us citizens from governments that are now pretty much run like a criminal organization. is this going to be the no, no, in the coming years, difficult to predict what's going to happen in the future. but obviously russia is not going to stop sending people to uh, the rest uh, to germany, to do other nato countries. we are in a hybrid more fair. um, as i said already, those opposition politicians have been 2nd by official russian officials. so this will continue on. the facts. truth is if russian spies and russian assassins i caught in the west, we will have to expect again, the best and citizens to be arrested and arbitrary. leech option was a, we were talking about the, about the math classic off and yeah,
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the least from germany. so is it fair to say germany played a key role here? absolutely, this was the most high profile case and the most heinous gays, this man is the matter. and a german court found to be a murderer and murder on behalf of the russian government. so this is of course, the most difficult case to release and murder are only after just about 5 years in prison. in exchange for, for some fitness we really did not have committed any serious crimes and rush at all. i'd like to talk about the role of tech asia as well because all of these exchanges happened under the auspices of the technician. intelligence service is decking. now effectively the bridge between russia and the west. well, we have seen not for the 1st time that turkey plays some kind of a mediator role. a lot of the present exchanges of soldiers between the ukranian and the russian armies have been negotiated and actually in inactive in turkey.
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turkey has the advantage of being a natal member, but not in a human, but so it is actually perfectly positioned on defense between both wells. i'm to, to be able to be a managing facilitator in these kind of very tricky situations. when i leave it there for the moment, tom chuck option loving the context stream is and project. thanks so much for coming into studio. thank you so much for having a package of dollars a month. the story is making headlines around the world. japan has just had its hottest july and reckon temperatures were more than 2 degrees celsius, higher than average, that made of the hottest july since the records began a 126 years ago. the new record comes as extreme heat waves fueled by climate change. in gulf, many parts of the go japan has formerly also denmark, the expedition of anti waiting campaign of phone watson, the founder of the c shepherd, active his group was arrested last month on an international warrant when his trip docked in greenland. tokyo, once a watson on charges of breaking into
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a japanese vessel in the and talked to ocean in 2010 under the visibility of mazda for tel aviv to demand that a ton of hostages held in gaza. thursday's demonstration, not $300.00 days since the guys are well started with the log scale of mazda service attack on eastern mouth seas $251.00 people during the attack. on the 7th of october, last year, a $111.00 are still being held in does the including $39.00. these rarely ministry stays on to the body off as, as the native how most you've east mind honey, has arrived. and to have thought that it had a funeral service and his burial. andrea had lived in costa and for many years, multiple officials and religious leaders are expected to attend the service. it comes a day off to a 1000, stand up for a memorial service for honey, a. in the, in the and capital t add on, attended by it on supreme lead. uh, i, the last time in a mazda is also expected to name
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a successor to lead it's politically wing. soon. speculation is rife as to who might get the job. whoever replaces a smile, honey, a, as a mazda is new, political leader has to decide on how the militant group will continue. it's fund with israel and also represent him us on the world stage. or the man accused of orchestrating the october 7th terror attacks on israel. yes, yes, and war is considered more radical than honey. a bets in war is believed to be hiding in the groups tunnel network beneath the gaza strip. and he's expected to remain the chief of him, us in gaza experts believing more likely contender to replace hernia to be. this man colored michelle, a veteran homeless official. he was previously the leader of homeless, his political office directing the group from exile in 1996. he survived in his
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really assassination attempt in jordan. michelle is considered more moderate and he has good ties. we've cut our and turkey, but his relations with syria, iran, and has the law soured over his support for the 2011 era of spring protests. another possible choice to replace hernia is cultural, ohio, a senior hamas leader who also lives in exile. he was the target of an as early as, as a nation attempt in 2007. l hi is viewed as a powerful figure within her moss who was close to one year. after her news death, l hi avowed to make israel pay a heavy price. well, her mazda has a record is moving quickly to replace assassinated leaders. the selection process this time will be more challenging. many members of the groups main consultative body. the short council are in gaza, so a full leadership meeting is unlikely spring and dramatizing blueshot who spent a lot of time in gaza before he had to leave you during this not from cairo. good
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to see you has a you've been following her most for years in your opinion, who is the likely success it or a smile honey? a it's it's not easy to predict who's going to be the next leader or the leader of mass. and according to the know, the sure counsel of him ask, has to convene a to because i knew a dealer chief or a leader of from us replacing any of the according to the low that the toledo has a for the beauties or set 3 in, in in, in, in the practical level, one um, who is the us in moore, is the top lead rule from us in garza strip the one in, in the westbank who was killed. and leo saw the re and highly the most highly. who's the top the draw from us movement abroad? in so much trouble now is probably is, you know, is,
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is leading the movement a temporarily till the initial right counsel convene and pick up a new one. picking a new one is not an easy mission, because how much members are not easy to call being during this emergency time wind, the word is happening in garza. so wireless accessor is being can see dad. where does that leave any possible hostage dean with israel given that he's part of honey? i was the chief negotiator from us or well, we can say that from us position on the deal. is it clear how much this costs that over the time with different levels of a you re, in, in, inside the movement and outside with the other mediators or other policies? and how much vision is it, is, is a clear to, to reach a deal if the both sides agreed upon it. of course, any absence would, would i think that, but i mean, i, i,
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it would in may come in for the facility. how much has no option the, the they, they have, they confirmed that they want to reach the deal. they have reached the maximum they would do in gallons of strip and fighting arguments as well. um, even from the day one off to october, 2nd they said that they want to to reach the deal. so the absence of honey a is not an essential thing to, to how this, this deal if the intention and then the that they need to was or that will but side the 2 sides agree to the, to reach it. mean writing and officials met with me does of it's a reason or proxies. impact on yesterday. do we know what was discussed? well the meeting was, was a secret one and the parties didn't the close to the close about what happened and discussed in there. but uh um this is,
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this is what we can say out if it had from the homicide. i think um they, they, they, they would and as i mentioned before, they wouldn't do more because they are with the engage, you know, more in gaza strip for his blah is something different than the ron and the previous experiences that we, we so iran, what they did as a revenge, did that tackle the embassy in syria and his belie to previous leaders? so how far they would go, how far they would do and that is unpredictable and this level. but um, i mean, if they cross the red lines according to what, as i read up on, on, on the bar to use that would lead to a new, a, or a new level or a wider range of the war in, in, in the region. really over there for the moment, douglas has embellish identity from keitel. thanks so much. thank you.
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throughout the news now, what these 2 people have been killed in nigeria off the security forces fired live rounds and tear. guess too clearly, protests across the country. a euclid movement has called for 10 days of demonstrations against the government's handling of a cost of living crisis that has seen their food prices so on has led to the worst economic downturn in decades. the deputies christine, one bar is a nickels and asked for testers what the demands are. this is legal, spit they was. seems like this in cities, across nigeria, as thousands of people pulled onto the streets to protest against the countries was cost of living crisis in place. he is on food and seal prizes. a soaring in nigeria and people blame the government. what's in this country? it seems to have something government is this, i don't,
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i don't know how to put it. there is actually in the land, people are only people come the rooms off towards to see the golf night where i'm much more about the trying to find out about that. i found the reason for my family . well, not because i'm not had joaquin because i'm on the new again. since taking office most me president bullets, you know, who has introduced economic reforms that have decimated people's purchasing power. the cost of living crises as being aggravated over the past, driven by 2 major issues before a subsidy or a mover and the unification of the exchange rates of, of the narrow to the dollar to allow me to go. right. so those 2 things i have very weird combo to have them together. and the implication is up prizes. ups, cairo,
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the countries budget is also ties with the expenses for exceeding income. but the government is still spending hundreds of millions on pay and puts for politicians. presentable. came in, the glazing under most subsidy. actually i did also sacrifice, but doesn't look is not enough for governance to steal. there's no accountability. the governments are not develop into a states that they've gotten to for what they usually get default in terms of location. but there's no justification for that location and the national assembly, the fund that'd be already to, you know, or so, or the politicians are live in the fact that bestbuy is of the people. it's the reason people will quote out to rarely under the banner, in bad governance, but to announce was low compared to the installs purchased that broke the south of the country to a stance to in 2020 there was a strong police presence at the main prototypes location here in lagos, with heavily armed officers from different units of the police. it's part of the
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reason many stayed away today. they said that the police would use violent force to disperse the process. organize the say they will continue to come out despite what they call police intimidation. the better cuz if you has been imposed in the northern kind, who stays with leased by a live bullets hot was a and t a guess at demonstrates is always the say protest. they were hijacked by side who looted and destroyed prophecy. and a quick reminder now the top story we are following for you president joe biden and vice president come to her as a welcome to group of americans freed from russian prisons, email exchange to you, and john, mr. evans desk of age and others were ferret any of our freedoms already in exchange for russians held in jails in the west. and the biggest thing of his kind since the cold war ended with that you're up to date coming up next off of the
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