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when it comes to sustain dependency information and trends, this is alex text is on d. w. travel, you can have it. what about you? and what's your opinion? feel free to write your thoughts and the comments hello and welcome to the 7th 7 percent. so this week we, i intend as capital nairobi west since june, mississippi, and indeed the rest of the country has been turned into a political stage visa protest by young people and some even lost their lives. small coming up on this very special edition. so i'm just keep on now, if you've seen any images from kind of lately, you may notice that today is a very quiet z jane, a ruby. there are no chance in crowds must just lead know to augusta. but since the june young tenants have been gathering on these 3 in town halls and also online now initially the mostly just before the test as one to the controversial finance field
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that would increase taxes in the country to be dropped. but now those protests like others in africa are about much more than a single issue. here's what's coming up. we'll find out what steps can we look at previously, a protest from a part of the confidence and we'll try to find out all this. but before we go any further, let's take a look at what's happened until now. this will be in the day it would be last week, congestion on the road, but right now the road is full of young people. what being towed, testing are controlled by some find nice, be at least using what i would consider to be excessive force. at the moment we've just had to pull back. we had seen somebody gets injured just beyond the road to the it started out as peaceful protests. young canyons draped in flags calling to
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kenya's parliament to reject a finance build up. many felt imposed exorbitantly high texas on an already squeezed canyon population. would i be paying taxes and then you do that you are paying dental doing much would be to the this includes n z protesters with soon, much with t goes water, cannons, arrests, and even live bullets. the 2nd day of protests ended in the depths of 29 year old mex messiah allegedly stroke in the evening of the protest and 21 year old evans q . how to, who died off to he was huge by to you guys kind of stuff. yes. that was our need to start on june 25th. the protest went nationwide and never be the focus was in homage and up in peace version for the adoption of a finance bill purchased
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a storm and national assembly with police opening file. and this is all of the was from problem inside. it was actually brought down by the protest as well as a lot all of these a truck on the south side that has been buns belong to the police since the beginning of the protest or the 50 people lost their lives and many more we injured . but that is not the time people, they organized blood donations, raise money to put hospice, who bills and organize the concepts and remembers of the victims for the longest time needed to be. nothing has been the hands of the old. i'm the lead to, i'm the rich dogs, but i have a question which, i mean it's the majority of the continent. we are the ones who don't have jobs, but the ones name to be today and see trying to get it to go abroad. so the question, you know what you want to put to our country and sort of dining the high seas. i'm going to do menial jobs and you're in the week since the protests have become most unlike the numbers of witness in the previous weeks today. very few protest as have come out as
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a part due to the high number of security details you can see behind me they keep loving to i guess it's all over the, at, with the heavy security presence arrests and also even abductions, my plain clothes offices, the protest as may not be in the streets, but the conversations continue on ex spaces offline and 3 quotes and petitions. this is the political oh, it can mean everyone is the, you know, an excellent but it, this is around taking pictures and you know, we're asking them david questions. and so many people are saying this has, has died. but it's extremely the beginning. and the government's response can use president has sent the finance bill back to parliament and dismissed his entire cabinet. he has attempted to dialogue with the per testers, but they say he's actions don't show a true will. now is the bill here. it's will be walking on the streets because this was a sites. well some of the west me says during then i really protest. now the countries
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parliament is just around the corner. and on june 25th young people, what able to reach the barriers, the and dean, and so you know, of cost, a lot of people was injured and many more also lost their lives. now we must have young people to discuss this issue and to tell us why exactly the what else in the streets. and it turns out that the more interested in talking about how security personnel dealt with a protest of once the hello and welcome back to the 77 percent st debates. my name is edith kimani, and this week we have back in 10 years capital of ne ruby. but we're here to ask a protest, the only way for kids to get their voices, hud, and what next? what the young people of this movement, who better to answer that question that the actual members of the movement took you, right? let's start with you because you stood up to a police officer and you said, you're not taking me anywhere. i'm standing up for my rights. why? why you so angry that day? that's was the 2nd be of the protest. and on the 1st the i had been an irish state
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. i wasn't even use. they tell me, i just said, because i was, i'm pushed by pain clips of he says, and they threw me into a vehicle. they had asked me the beats me and they took me to central police and we were detained among the protest as until 8 pm. so it's a, i didn't understand why the people of the minds and had to be met with such brutality. so i was like if this moment, if i help is to me i get i have to be able to speak up for myself and to be honest, i was cad. but to my anger and frustration succeeded my fear at that point. right. so shakira is august superseding her fear. mohammad, you are a journalist to communicate to but very much also involved in these protests. so i, i did ask the question, what sparked the protest because i mean canyons have been known to purchase for a while, but not like this, not at this scale. can you come to the google repetition so many times, but the revolution that's a very strong what it is, a very strong, but i think we can go back all the way to the ninety's when you had the multi party
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out when we're fighting for multi party democracy in this country, 2002, when all of us watch who to talk and say, and go to is that kind of, you know, i'm, we, there's one uniform, fucked up swapped. and that is for the patients orders coming in and hijacked the movements and making them all themselves. so what's the difference, this thing fall? and i think the people that they got tired of that. so then what is the message now? because at the beginning it was very key, right? rejected the finance bill. i don't want to speak to some people who participated in the protest. i did that involve binding buildings looting businesses, because this is also what the young people have been accused of. like the 1st day when direct score, short was in the potatoes and cbd at full. and it was decided to go home because it's the end of the day night time was coming in the streets, which are, you know, going to be safe people left. but then the minutes are coming to downtown, you're being told all the people who are here to lagoons, people as businesses or i in fact before kept. most of the professors are trying to
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go home. all of us wanted to go through. we were tired, let me bring in a child, so we know who you might recognize as a form us books best on for the police. based on your own assessment, an observation, how would you rate the behavior of putting use towards the protest as in those early days that they sometimes they'll be conflicts, but police find themselves in because as you had, the young man took most of these issues as a political provenance between the public and politicians, police officers coming in force laws and regulations of the land. well, what kind of constitution is that'd be tomorrow if i print and i think with the 7 of the constitution provides that you can demonstrate to, you can assemble, you can pick it to kind of present petitions, to authorities, peaceably. and who did the police respond and so do they consider us 1st or the politicians, the police going to see does the nation every one of you?
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because for example, she's a business woman. if you're breaking to hardship and what happens to her, so from where i seats, i don't want to defend anybody. but what i'm saying is, can we follow the law? okay, let me hear from some people here because i'm seeing the house coming up. the steps of the default position of the police of discounting since independence has told us how long has been filings. now, some of the people who came out drinking support is that kids, well for middle class families, police brutality for them. it's things they see on tv or they need them to people. if you go to these low income for this neighborhoods, this informal settlements, the my thought is to keep, does, this is the data. if you have reached the suns killed without any due process. yeah . so we have somebody here from the law society of can you, what does the law say about peaceful protests and what the police on the right. because we saw images of people holding just the flag. and yet they're being sprayed with what's a kind of the unfortunate thing that we have weakness in this country, is that the keep up with treated by the states and obviously of these because we
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saw a quote involving the issue. i know that a team that the police officers would not to use the we put in the, you know, to use force was, you know, see was what the economy. and it was created directed to the inspector general of police to ensure that they probably, that combined the following. the there was a product as detailed and nice in the video. cities in the week would witness the police white and took the validation of that order. i'm going to give me so you know, just respond to that and then i want us to move away from the issue of police. yeah . when you by the police from using the tools required for the i treat you mean live i munition different labor. i mean, nation, yes, i don't want to lie. i want to be video next year. even live, i mean nation is totally of, of is a tool of trade for the police. we have had cases of terrorism here. people coming with the bombs and fight. i'm so what i'm saying is that when it comes to t, i guess the quote trying to stop the police from having to using t i guys are using but on what when using his get. it is misplaced in the sense
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that it is equivalent to telling the police the police station let us protest. the president has already made some concessions, fired nearly his entire cabinet, has now re appointed. some people are to still be made to them. how do you feel about that? do you feel like the president is listening to the demands of the youth? honestly, i don't think he is because um, if you see that a shuffle, it's like he just switched positions. you know, it's like this person was here. come stay here you go, stay here. just just to show people. it's like, it's pretty that old was people's mind. like i'm, i've done something. so what the real issues, let's come back to that. it's evidence that when we say route to him, i school, we don't specifically refer to roots so much the anti government that he's backing him up. they've been given a chance. time and time again because this up when you chance, i've had a boat since i was i need to golf. so i think it's just time we it's like
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it because tracking everything and start afresh for my new foundation. so what are the solutions? i'm going to plead with a youth. my children go to school in that will be, i walk in that will be, that means my children and no go to school. i was no good luck and i am a single mother of 3 children kindly as a human being. i wish i hope that this protest can take a big time. so why don't you support the movement? you don't want lots of business. you don't want the loss of life. okay. understood, let me get some more points. my solution is simple here. bang people. you. i didn't my unit stop tribalism. the driver, excuse me. i don't say you add a tray, but at least i say we have been practising, probably bullies of you identification should stop. i want to see an election
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where you are going to elect people based on, on or not based on the policies that they want to send to you because got in police, that's a fair point. and finally, i'd like to hear from you more. let's close this with you. as, as civilians, we're going to take a civic duty very seriously from now on the other day on tuesday we had 2 different similar thing, a street spaces on wednesday. well, one group was teaching people about the bills that are being tabled in parliament and other people stitching people. if a group of him boys were teaching people about their talk to you about the, the constitution read teaching a point to, they're going to make life very uncomfortable for point additions and then a non violent fee. okay. let me just clarify, right? so we have to rock that because of the time, but i did ask a question, you know what next? and i think the answer has been very clear here that even if it's not on the streets, it's going to be somewhere online, or perhaps that's a debates like this, right? so i thank you all for participating. i did read somewhere that these protests will not so much on side government,
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but pro good governance. and i think this debate has clearly illustrated that. thank you for watching to thank you so much to everyone who investigates now the longer version is available on youtube and just for your information that we had initially approved several politicians and p to try to understand how they see their role in one of these political changes, but the ones able to join our debate so much like here and kinda nigeria use was a sense of one of the largest protest movements in africa. and saw can you believe that it's already been for years? so let's take a look back at what's the process of what thousands had got it to peacefully demonstrate it gave rise in cases of police brutality. i know that the protests were largely peaceful because i was there with 4 to with that evening. the protest songs in legal would turn into christ for help and the same place where people
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called for their rights to be upheld would be the same place that were killed. it all started on the 3rd of october, policemen from the special anti we scored unit better known as sars, allegedly killed a young man in southern delta state and took away his scar as a video of the deadly of salt lake online. hundreds of young people took the social media event and share their own. so i was experiences, all of which went back. so i was, was initially formed in 1992 to tackle armed robbery in the country. but the units grew into inventory, of course, popular for a store tense and abusing young nigerians. might have to raise the on my anger against, sorry, i had gone so much that is built into the streets. nationwide. illegals, protest is mounted road blocks and shut down traffic. thousands got it. and the lucky tomb gave a major highway in the which area of the city. this would come to be the main demonstration points. their demands was simple, they wanted size band,
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that officials prosecute a to and so victims to be compensated. but they were also advocated for the officials themselves. they wanted them to be mentally evaluated, and for the salaries to be increased, so that it would have fewer reasons to extort. on the 11th, as the process gave momentum, the nigerian police finally scrap size distribution of drawbridge quote of denied europe for this and no worries, none the size is here but dissolved, but people were buying it. this wasn't the 1st time the police was claiming to reform stars by then the demonstrations had become more of a move met anyways, and people were demanding not just for police reforms, for better governance. on monday the 19th legal scale, no budget is so lou from a traditional panel to look into saws of uses for the protest continues,
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still and seek for some cases of police crackdowns, they were largely disco. all the criminal elements hotspots infiltrate as thousands of protesters got it again and lucky, told it on tuesday, october 20th. they noticed the things with different people told me that they sold, told, gave staff. we move in ccc cameras installed in the area. and that as evening fell, the street lights wouldn't come on leaving the place completely dark at around 4 pm grove, no. show lou, impose the curfew, trying to is to order. but many poor testers at the, till the we made there. then at around 7, middle, the night june army rode in on several vans and started to think of the own. i'm demonstrators. eye witnesses told me the count of several buddies that night taken away by the army. but it wasn't over. as one of the keyless traveled remarks to through the streets, newton shops, burning beauteous and attacking policemen. 12 people died according to this,
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the international and many more were injured to the 92 and the government to set up judicial panels to look into the police violence, but denies the killings of october 20th like any of you took to the suite of successful you have the controversial saw police units disbanded? what are these? well, people died on that night of what it is now known as the less you told the mazda. com. so what happens during such protests and why did the police meet often react to this we, i guess people protest of what was supposed to secrete the experts here in kenya. and this is what he had to say. it's the day of the protest. hundreds, perhaps thousands of people stream into the streets. the organizes had notified the police, but the sheer numbers overwhelming. so how to react that in scenario is that any unit that is past due manage within that, you know, did addiction,
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would go in to protect those, the royalties? i mean, those protest us to get to the end the game in which case, you know, present a petition to a, the power or, or an agent of the target. and you know, way to influence auction to, to just basically spell out their grievances. and once that is done, then go back home peacefully over the top is fully to the police as opposed to protect, especially in countries which guarantee the right to freedom of assembly. in other words, the right to protest. but then we've also just seen where the excess is on the part of the old and well, you know, as the noise, you know, in future does come in to take a bunch of the she and numbers. and that's about getting the infrastructure that's supposed to be providing security, how to be very vigilant to a single out. this advertise on to relevantly apply force to, you know, impede some of these actions on or to arrest them altogether. what we've seen
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across the african continent, however, is that police onto the t. and in many cases, when the situation becomes more volatile, how they fail to the estimate in king is most the reason protest. police used to your guys and what kind of the despised isn't just a handful of people. and in addition to that, to be filmed, officers use their fire arms, even if you have to drop out a weapon and to shoot at uh, you know, at, at whatever it is that is out there. there's got to be an existent shots that are that to live, that is in the life of the opiates of themselves, sophisticated agencies. and, or there's one thing, destruction, or property. or this are risk to, you know, a threat to life, especially on the part of the people that are being protective. in preparation for the c fellwood cup and saucer off the game, 2010 police as security forces got special training to prepare them to control the crowds of fluids and football fans. and that would be sent on the country for south
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africa, which only emerged from the boot, advertised a few years back. it was a learned income. they could not afford to enjoy. this is in fine. so it needs to be changed to training discipline and more consequences for those who don't stick to the rules. what's clear is that the change needs to come from the top. so we've now looked of can now we've looked at like syria. what's another country that's still a very prolonged use uprising? what south africa, the fees must fall? protests took place between 2015 to 2017, almost a decade ago. at that time, students were protesting the high costs of universities. and because we wanted to find out what happens to movement when that initial wave of protest size though we us some of those former students. the reality is that society is high for us as we begin vandals running around causing chaos. i think that the student movements get a bad rap really,
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really bad rap because all that will see is the violence, but they don't know what has to happen in order to get to that stage. and so i'm going to visit you just lovely dealing with people want. well, i don't care, you know, want to live scenes. and so he now in a post, he's my familiarity with the media. we're academia itself is loading through the school. as you know, there's a visionary movement in a post and the projects that i forgot. but at the time of these, my school moved very isolated and we were treated as patient in shoulder and she didn't understand the reality of wasn't because of its almost been a decade. the students movement fuels by the high cost of university fees and the sense that the education system was talking, the appetite colonial past clothing instructions with toppled under the hash tag. what's most full of the students demanded. the university fees must full for the
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fabrication is most only accessible to to reach the students for keypads campuses. but it will also mess with polls by police and the university is private security. in that moment, what does this mean? so because we cause ungovernable diversity, we took over from the punishment, it's much harder to organize when they are private, security with rifles guiding different buildings. so it's much harder to organize when even during new teens piece was the cold. and for the time to shut down the campuses, put enough pressure on universities to agree to some of the other month to be visible. but then zoom are agreed of and called for free education. but now we need it done to state how is going to be funded. we know that free education never came . and so there's a lot of changes to tactic to d, mobilize us,
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and it was very effectively 9 years down to my and students of places of advocates, best universities still fear losing debt supports due to outstanding debt in 2024, over 1900000 students applied for financial aid, it just feels like every single generation is going to fight the best fight. and then woke 2 steps forward, 10 steps back and we keep advancing. we do, but at just an incredibly slow rate. and what did they learn from me? jersey, we was young, we were making things up as we went along. one of the things picked up to us a made is, is young people to refuse? most folks is that through also to your m go out to our communities, involved them organize, mobilize and organize,
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and the elect members that you trust that are vetted also mobilization. that is the ricky talking to the institution. your protesting, my hope is that we as young africans can revive the spirit of an african, the struggle that we can support each other. as was the case in the sixty's in the seventy's. there's a need for us to go back to our and to read and to none and to speak to, i'll do. and so i'm very excited for what the future holds for young africans who are taking that power back. so reflection disappointments, but perhaps as we just had, oh, well, we've come to the end of our show, but here in kenya, the countries use a still in the midst of things will continue to bring you the latest developers. and you can also follow us on 6 talk the cost for you to and you can also find this point is the ground. thank you so much for watching. the combined me good by
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