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going to be funded here repos every weekend on d w. the, this is the, the news offer guests coming up on the program as russia as well in ukraine, spread to africa. fast molly? then these are caps, diplomatic ties with ukraine over in the major military defeat and the not latrice volkswagen for of america says see this back. interesting to us. i have black feelings, malia and soldiers. and after years of russian flags flying over the close states in this, i have to be just popped up in north and nigeria. even at a conference at level, jeff, it's a sites that's k, any of the countries need is very worried. you will not accept anybody,
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any individuals, flane's, any 40 flag in major and also the issue of an injury. either somebody may show it and then driven democratic unusual. we will not accept anyone pushing or taking an actual similarly or for whatever reason to want to push for any change with comments. and the other end of this i how is done. we made creative who have flipped the homeland and are using the art to keep the memories alive for the life you have left behind the i. i'm eddie mike of junior and you welcome to the program. so has russia's war and you, queen, just for it to africa and diplomatic war of words as well on the way moscow is actually using cheve of opening up quote, the 2nd front. in molly this,
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i have to have a michael brewed coffee, domestic relations, which a queen on sunday. it was in the week of the rep. i love talking to north of the country that left dozens of molly and soldiers and russian wagner mass. and the reason that i'm a, let's say the talk is one of the groups most deadly defeats in africa. media has since followed suit and also kept diplomatic ties with keys. now the official response from by michael was swift and direct keys in t of, of support the entire risk groups on molly's soil. with him on the 27th the transitional government of the republic of molly has none. with deep astonishment of the subversive remarks by which mr. and the way you saw from so from the ukrainian military intelligence agency, media there admitted the involvement of ukraine in a cowardly attack on the malia in defense and security forces. in terms of what 10 under false defaults to this,
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as well as causing property damage and go with them. let's see, could you go and what it is is the most, you only do not send these allegations, are extremely serious having being neither denied nor condemned by the ukraine. you know, it's already showing clearly official supports of the ukrainian government for terrorism in africa. the so how and more specifically, in molly remote or monday, are right in moscow. in the shadow of the kremlin, dozens of russians came to mourn to fall in wagner fighters. the group says its mass and i reason malia and so it just took heavy losses in classes with y rex. and his law missed fights is from an arcade affiliate. that's why rex said they had killed 84 russian wagner medicine that was and 47 body and soul just doing vs bottles in late july spend a night's area at least 90 people behind bars up that you made is imagine of people waving russian flax at protest against economic hardship and kind of states. now,
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soon after russian flags was seen of riley's in the carpet telemundo, it'll be used. christine, when do i report from lagos? thousands of demonstrators have been arrested for carrying russian flags and protests against economic hardship. yet in that year some of the protest as were hood quoting, for a ministry takeover and full rest has presidents letting me a solution to help bring regime change here in nigeria, the russian embassy promptly released the statements denying any involvement, not yours. domestic security agency said and it also detained people who was slowing. the flags, the top security official, general christopher muso, save the flying of foreign slabs, was a treasonous offence. we will not accept anybody, any individual flame, any for them. flag in nigeria also the issue of course. and then you guys have somebody in the show and then drive the democratic solution. we will not accept anyone a pushing or take in action. similarly, or for whatever reason,
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to want to push way the change of government that jerry is currently experiencing. it's west cost of living crisis in 3 decades and people tend to blame on economic reforms. they say western institutions to go back and i may have, have posts on the country. this includes the removal of a fuel subsidy that has led to a shop increase in price is going to have more of the spinning. yes, you're going to have the listing agent we've got most, i guess today would not because the 3 thinking on the flesh loan. but what fun you see does the. c dog, nice. the side of the flags has raise concern here in nigeria because russia is deepening security ties with neighboring countries in the region between the fossil molly and it's a way of rushing flags have also been seen in anti government demonstrations. and when ministry does have subsequently seized power, us to give our book enough i. so the military lead us on these
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a and molly broke away from the regional group and that co us any other c a form in the cloud? well, the own which means to what's more school, the alliance of health states, all 3 countries, that's the longstanding west and allies. after a number of schools, molly sought to re sense when each we take with this, you know, august 20, 20, and may 2021. russian influenza was evidence even before the clues like here in 2019. but can also suffer to cruise in 2022, the fast in january, and the 2nd in september. these images are from what i do. then in july 2023, these as democratic, any elected president was the pose in a cool. and a country also tends to russia for it. security needs to help us bring all this together. let's welcome beverly itching and security analysis, specializing in this. i have in global pol, competition in africa. she joins us from the costs and the go. hello beverly,
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how big a said back is the box all the not the molly bold, bog. now, ag, the africa call, they seem to have lost a 50 or more fights is how important is that in the grand scheme of things, both for russia and molly? as well, this has been patronized as one of the biggest minutes reset the box for the russian 5 minutes. a contract is wiping operating in mining for nearly 3 years now . but also in various parts of the region. while we about half of that can speak about the influence in the subject of the public in libya is the 1st time they seem to have such a mass casualty. some report suggests that many 18 most of these were killed. so her message and being to the community does of some of that telegram accounts, but they normally run. so it is significant because when you compare a box in your gorgeous, less than a year ago, the vacuum and because it was known then have arrived with the body and on the north in time of 2092 was quite a symbolic. the statement of the ministry being called because they,
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when now is showing that they could have some sense of territorial control. and they've been pushing towards the north for the army for nearly a year now. and this is the 1st thing that's the most to be packed. so in terms of that coordination and corporation, it is symbolic for the winter that is looking to show that it has natural rights, right? so just to be clear, i'm calling them back now. um you, you, you tried to allude to fact that that's how the way i called or should we just be say, in russia instead of wagner, i mean the complicated relationship between buying a coupon roster has been something i've been looking into all the time. so when they initially arrive and stuff happened, a couple of 1000 on the 2017, i would say 28302018. the government and the are in fine. the tonight, the chapter that shouldn't mess with reason. we talked about what was the russian military instructor at the time, the fact that the types of fees,
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reputation from some of that i brought back to pretty but what's taking place in ukraine station or pardon me, which was 2nd, is that to be done by the who being man, well then became the wagner, also the death of a back. and indeed the precaution who had been the banker and that he had been speaking a heavy, had been quite a keeps regarding the bruise. they then subsumed something, calling on behalf of a comp time money and saw how also in money and some of the ones that moved into alicia. and also to the hospital, i noticed the african, the ones in the from biggest to respond to the back. and i think overall the vitamin me as the quite the reputation in of itself. right. try it out. so that's an interesting breakdown. thank you for that time. can you give us an idea of the i reach an influence in molly and indeed the region as a whole. i mean, so initially they came into the regions such as c, a, r,
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as military instructors are supposed to be supporting the military take back to inquiry from level and on groups the stabilizers, they launch the public. this came in coordination with some financial incentives. so it was said, the big 3 mentors that they would have full set in mineral areas in exchange for security. they seem to replicate to this model in other parts of the conference having happened. whether it's maybe i will sort of seem to be some serious in mind . me, even though that hasn't quite been the case that has been an attempt to take over whether it's mining initiatives, been gold. there's some interest in it, them and back in exchange for them to provide some sort of feels that since they pay themselves when they are paid by the state to those mineral and they said no holds beyond that, they also do have to leave the operations they have a city to meet your operations. some of them are just online companies that go viral, especially during times when they have territory,
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a little extra found twins. there's a mostly on telecomm, sometimes on facebook. sometimes on to talk. somebody run directly by people who are seem to be back, not comfortable does, but some old. so by a city would be c cage infringed. it would be speaking in bumper on local radio as a way of also trying to spread the insurance on a more local. nothing. right, right. so it makes the question really what's in it for them? we're talking about dozens of vodka. no forces. if we can continue that trend of being killed fast forward to today in northern molly. so why are they that what's in it for them? is it really worth losing their lives to go about being that? as i suppose, if we look at what the commitment by the russian government will be when it determines whether be the what it after this territorial loss of the spot. rock lost the my appointment of stack together with the russian appointment district
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discuss continued corporation, because money is not just important because of the resources that it has since become symbolically important. so how russia can sort of get into this deal with western countries? what insurance russian precedents in many of these countries has led to a drastic drawing down of western forces. the last batch of news at western space, the media less just this week after some project. and that was visions. part of it was because the us was quite comfortable the relationship between nisha, russia, as well as russia allies. same thing is happening with german forces who might be forced to have to need that abby's and me on each. so russia is looking at this as a geo political strategic soul where it's cash exempt from the magic dump. and that's especially given the fact that a space so much backslash with fractions into play. and even some of what is going to see by the west as your political tensions,
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and also to stabilize in parts of west africa. regarding the recent situation where dozens of wagner forces, where killed the victors and not in the body to our reg, separate test. and i'll tell you that link group, what do we know about them? so the all kind of feet and the toilet separate is more than a decade. the pool has been sort of working to get back and be 100 bells against the government's involvement. so it wasn't the pressure value, but it was the most significant shabanni. and that was in 2012 sunday brunch towns because they had different ideologies. the group that was then at all. but i'm going to leave. that was the political we have now from what is known as a prominent strategic framework. it's a group of parts. we don't wanna be tornadoes that are on the, with a lot of political, social, and ministry incidents in northern money. many of them have been governed as a representative of note in communities of the region,
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and for them they have one to better presentation or possibly monday, which is part of the reason there was that 2015 agreement, hospitality kind of mission seems to be all kind of cool to me, it is a more radicalized branch of fact, and they have been preaching extreme. this isn't this ideology. they are not so much interested in being politically engaged, but it's a wielding social, economic power in their own way and imposing serial in areas of the are operating. but over the course of the past year, given that they have been increasing was consistent between the military damarian army and the army groups. and the no, it's feel the 6, there is a silent alliance between the on page and the all kind of in that they have been found in similar combat songs. they have been funded day is way either the army has been attacked and being so we've been in the same area but we haven't acknowledged working together because it would undermine this toner subject frameworks, political evictions because the name is politically and economically and security
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sanctioned by western powers and by barriers of a possible watching together might cause a lot of tension in building the csp political legitimacy. not just before. what else or brock. right, right. we will get back to talk about russia's influence in the region overall. but before that, it's based on the recent incidence, again, that cost a $1000.00 and sofa, wagner force us to lose your lives. molly has caps, diplomatic ties with ukraine, accusing keys in the strongest of times of quote, terrorism is ukraine, if you have any mollys internal affairs, and why would they do that? so after the battle ages are 10, which is what happened and the other one is on jerry, how are you printing intelligence? official allegedly said that they have provided some information to the 200 separatists, which was working together, which seemed to be working together with y'all. kind of which enabled them to
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really want to attack the volume army and the russian messengers. there was a similar video that was shad proposed to me by the opinion of brass, a dog who was based on the car and cynical sections. i'm sure there's also that there has been quite a diplomatic stand also. marty decided to break friends because c b seemed to support not just the $200.00 acceptances which money has been branded terrace for those that you name, which is a name specially sanction terrace organization, is seen as giving would turn on to disclose the port to attire so can i be sure which is why money has chosen what it's chosen, but also because money does have a close relationship in russia, and at the moment, russia and ukraine have been up school for quite some time. ukraine is trying to business diplomatic agents, and this may have been seen as somewhat something of a quick mind that needs it to, to get that footprint. but that's how this ended up happening. right. so it was a case of the enemy of my friend is my enemy also writes something,
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something along those lines. so, almost a year ago, the eastern economic forum in russia president vladimir putin said must school have never colonized africa. what's your view on that? considering that wagner seems to be the long dom of russia in the region, as i mean, you will find that the countries that are working together was about i'm going to say that they are doing it. so they're working together to see what the pressure government was. saying that they are doing it because it is best software insurance because they feel about the i'm on west apartments that they've been working with. whether it's from, for the us, have been an external in position. and part of it does have to do with legacy because fences legacy over the especially now, especially in insurance, has been growing, has been called into question the summer and it just movements. but i imagine national expensive, and it does feel like it's still the sense of dependency on russia,
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which is what this, you know, fighting engines. our 10 has demonstrated that even the past due of money in the community operations. but if you're talking to people work according to the one size industry, sions, the people who are full come and as opposed to russia, they would argue otherwise, even though it does seem as is josh and dominance is coming up, particularly cost human cost, as well as cost right? quite an interesting situation that isn't it. can also get your take on events in northern nigeria, ration flax being floor not protest. 90 people are arrested for carrying ration flags, rushes embassy has denied involvement. do we know why boots us doesn't? nothing. nigeria would want to make come on cost with fulton. i don't think so. yeah. because the other interesting thing about it was that people chanting in house, we want structure, we won trasha, excuse, opportunistic. it is a kind of,
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i would say no longer in the happened during the purchase of mommy's friendship. pricey wherever some spots will be waived or even stops different things looking at possible just after the 2 minutes. a cruise that happened in 2020 to $40.00 bernisha and the awesome off of that ministry last year. it's deals with it. that's how the building blocks, even the team that was arrested. among the 90 people who was russian sentiment in northern nigeria and even to the past that for them you share, you wouldn't see that particularly strong that happened some radios where some commentators will speak focusing about adoption presence, particularly in the shad which obviously the closer political found to be something that one of influence how much of it is actually filtering into people's lives that we now see these flags and by change is something was looking into. but it may seem, in some ways opportunistic because we do know that 5 minutes underground channels took advantage of testing the site help to demonstrate that they also do have insurance wide in the region. right. talking about opportunism,
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cool after cool, old cooling out a stylized boot that out rather than flax flying across this i how? i guess the question is where to ask is this all part of a grand strategy or just us to, to what you is and buy food to i mean, it could be both ways because there are countries that have been ashton's a piece fundable to me that you have always been a candidate to have expands previous schools, and even the present towards the porch was quick sat down given the fact that this has happened in bonnie happened and looking at possible. and he was the only president at that point was welcoming with western powers. it also says a lot about the fact that the west cannot decided quite cheap for that. i wanted sign when it's in a tax increase and there's probably 20 percent. and then to the how the screening of this packet, the struggle into is that how people respond to those differences. for instance,
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on the wide range intervention or not necessarily the orthopedic back. once i get the results with the ship. but it would be hard to say if it is all the time that i spend took over to achieve instability, political security, which all come together to make or vision crude timidity cruise. that's all the piece which happens. rates have gone. it hasn't been acrimonious as what the saw, how it has been a building for a long time. so i guess for now people, i was wondering why is it likely to happen next? right, that's, that's a $1000000000.00 question. we don't have the answer. now to that, but i've learned a lot from you, beverly or chang security on a list specializing in this. i how thank you very much. thank you as well. the warnings of them has displaced more than 11000000 people since slights
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interrupted between government and rebel forces. in april. last year. people have fled to neighboring chide south to them, and can you quite a correspondence, but like smart and got met a group of sit on these creative. they are using the odds to raise awareness about the conflict back home. the inside remains. that was, i forgot and was photographed and that gave me not allowed to done 6 months ago after classes around. he's hometown that laughed many people did. he's one of a group of so dentist at these 2 eggs. i independent capitana that walks reflect the experiences of the country and the lives they left behind and how you ever since i've never been overlooked. this is not just a visual experience by them, but it's about the emotions people feel when they see my odd size. i mean, definitely you can see the colors and the depiction of young, old people ask about who is being displaced and dying for years. i mean,
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usually you, so anyone viewing my autistic work should be able to feel the essence of these pieces for a while in the night. when i did, and i just showcasing that watson beef gallery, they giving a voice to the forgotten war and the millions of people displeased thousands of can only tests by the heaps of dodge is the q data for the rest. fancy dancy, you hope things are based on kind of help keep the public focus on the wall. the same holds elastic, so do sometimes the phone for his own country for this exemption allows for people to learn about the situation to understand about the situation, to understand how this person is affecting people. and what's important to you right now is by september, if the conflict does not stop or the odd se fluids um for aids are not open. we, we are losing 2000000 people just to find that. and that's not,
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that's not the little number that's the highest the, you know, this is just, this is one of the highest humanitarian crisis in the world and maybe even in history. so i feel like this exhibits, as it becomes even more important, more dire to have nadine hopes to see example of the density zoom country tend to sailors and that's a down realizes piece it was. i keep your mind off for democracy protest before the war began. to run 5 blocking and at the start of the 2018 revolution, young people like me dreamt of achieving a sudan that is free, peaceful and equal. if i have the authority, i would have implemented the ideals of freedom about peace and equality. i give you an idea and you have the job in paris. african outlets may not have had the best olympics. this is still set africa and can you have been leading the metal tables but off the field funds and benefits of being able to enjoy the africa station. it's
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a place for visitors to embrace the games and meet some of the athletes. the aim is to celebrate the sports course, but also the rich diversity of african cultures with foods and crafts from countries such as smiley cook, while julia and kenya, i'm, i'm from a french. so i'm super to the french one. but as well as the incentive and english as well. so i'm going to read and ask somebody to support, but they are going to be fair is just uh, based on the performance that was doing amazing a come from london and that, that wasn't expecting to, to see that african states sense. so nice, quite good. yesterday we kept for your sons though, and it wasn't amazing at today we we had 4 or 4 bits. so let's see is really nice to see the house for such thoughts. um, we have a platform where we can shoot this off pull cho because because she pays on us because she gets every every 3 months. and i just want to watch the policy charges
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