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and the well was the cost for a long time, they had to be humans on the journey. now the trenches have become very protective of whales until the results of the ocean consultation, the stats of tend to sold. i'm dw, get ready for an exciting, auburn toyota to look surprised. hi, irish. and i am ready to dive into the hands of gentlemen to you. have you have a one to talk to me before you go to the spas? i'm the, i'm expected sides of the chick fil a because become a political battle field. i go with this population, my algorithm, the, the government, the, if these rising to become
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a minority in our own country, a young people turning to the royce, the what's happening on sic til, i guess i'm some say we live in a dictatorship. they only see 2 parties who can be d and the greens young people just trust the a if the if i post on thursday friday morning, i wake up thinking now i have to do this to myself all over again. besides the who's fighting against it's best platform isn't yours, the internet isn't yours, but we're not putting up with this just because you're allowed. we're taking this badly. follow us down the ramp at home. the hello world. it's 2020 full. is this normal? now the police, apparently we are right, we stop but we're just normal, sophomore,
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more miles. so what does germany, but normally funny, just because i don't want to leave it in islam is neighborhood. yeah, totally normal. they go is are no go areas. women are preyed upon as amount of refugees are all too eager to stay and people may assess the consequences of population replacement for via where the last generation for re migration gets to an attorney. and of course i make policies for minorities which ones the governments of course, we have from the history and digital publish a hash tag, l team did a deep dive into german and austrian right wing populous take to bubbles. and we travel to a club of people who helped us understand this madness. why the right wing populism in take told goes so hand in hand, and i already knew about the fall, you need, or one or 2 snappy sentences hold. or if you want to rant against the corrupt delete, so you can easily package that into a short video, signed the videos for parking, how
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a young people being radicalized on social media. what role the far right, and it was play for political policies. once these constant biologist slogans hooks and punch lines, doing to a climate of opinion, and where will it end if nobody stands up to it? then thoughts not must be a germany is marching in lock step once again, life marching and long stuff against those who think differently against dissidence . king, i'm not staying the real man or patriot. that's enough, it's kind of fine. but we're also here to look at resistance on take told what's working, who's resisting, and what cost. we can take to her stats. 2024 is a super election here with more than 2000000000 people worldwide. being cool to vote, including the year to him and he will see elections in 3 federal states. austria has its legislative election to date polls predicted, right? when populus will do well. anal poor elections. the final right populace policy at the reaches mostly blooms itself in any other german policy without the 6000000
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likes of the fine trim and politicians with the most follow is 3 i f d, including the gal klaus us, 100 quick legs. somebody's got it, i'm just so he has his own theory about why the a f d does so well on social media. there's, i don't even mean, but it started out with a political talk shows. we weren't invited onto this. as we never got invited, we sat on the right and then we have to go on to social media. i think the a f d hired stopped us for social media right from the start. i like, i'm the front of me don't mind or a few years ahead of other parties and parliamentary groups because we've been on line for a long time. i got the expertise. yeah, learning devices when the expertise at all the a f d off and criticizes talk shows, but not inviting them on. yet their leaders have appeared on almost all major talk shows as you really want to leave you at some point. miguel klaus does take talk live streams. he's been on the platform for years and holds a seat in it to him in state parliament. the people come out of it. i mean,
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i do pretty much all of the tick tock channel. i make the videos. i add the sub titles and background music everything and then i just search for ethic music usually going and then you get suggestions and i choose something suitable. and i also put an ethnic music piano use that a month when it isn't too dramatic because there's also this will come out of this sound straightforward, but what's behind is tick tock sound. the rhythm is different from other social media platforms. any video can get views regardless of whether it's creation, it has fall, it was on north. what's time is measured down to the milli, 2nd bodies who stay get more of the same. the delight of the vanity sympathizers grew up. what social media wasn't the party said he that if he wants people to talk about us, he want these issues to be discussed with, do you want to share, share, share, and then they're used to it sometimes. does this include doesn't z. if he doesn't,
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puppies. many or if the sympathizer, our team at the, by the some of those people set up 2 or 3 accounts on their own and prolong a if the messages by re posting them to you for letting on in teams. it is a full draft and re post them and t 5. and these are the kinds that can make a lot of why don't you do deeper? you'll also find in authentic accounts, which covertly spread a if the messages gibbs deed for deck. i've debo charleston a couple items. here's an example of an ino, we'll send tick accounts. it has an official sounding name and carefully planted content that's hard to support, according to take towards the latest quarterly transparency report, a network of $32.00, you know, authentic accounts with blocks, the accounts posted content to amplify, if the narratives and russian state media arguments to manipulate political disclose to germany, east detox and now the rhythm playing into the hands of right we networks. we asked the company, but they just referred us to that community guidelines on height speech, for example. the chinese platform take talk is the fastest growing social media app
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in germany alone. 20.9000000 people use it one quarter of the population. the situation is similar in austria with 2100000 uses. the average usage time is one and a half hours per day. rapid radicalization of young people and tick tock. what do take talking politics, having comments for condos to me or is a social democrat in berlin state parliament. he posts about radicalization, mostly and pushing the social media and all social media is also a social space to reclaim reclaiming it from right wing extremists and all extremists in general is a task. we must not fail on because otherwise we will have a huge problem. i'm just but i'm just on some i'm huge and he is he just pulled up suddenly if i started making content and expressing our politics be a if i wouldn't stand a chance. maggie posted one of the 1st videos with the hash tag reclaimed take talk in march 2024. this concept, the concept is simple. we flood take talk with progressive content,
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have pulled us even content. the moment i'm a climate activist i, i've been fighting climate change for 5 years now and join the climate school strikes at 16. schultz fridays for future. didn't the launch weekly take talk of staff, but the project came from people who were active there on time. it's time to reclaim, take, talk through what we took to the streets, emilio, some this high a create account to your friends, to join and make videos as happens with regarding tick tock. we're not just taking the platform back, but we're also we cleaning in entire generation. even matter of fact, when we started organizing fridays for future protests, it's this idea that the young generation was progressive. you won't get up politically engaged and cared about the world was i give it a whole investment of as i see it. so, but now it's a big question mark, which was part of size. so let's talk about young people because they're
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dissatisfied, worried, and clearly drifting to the wrong. so according to a recent online, you study 25 percent. don't know who to vote for 10 percent don't want to vote adult. the remainder of 22 percent would vote for the f d pull than ever before. the studies of 814 to 29 year old, 2 sets of ac lift behind and generally pessimistic about the future to understand why we spoke to. so she ologist a dean of my philosophy, who was recently awarded to him and he's the order of merit. so he's with your fax me at your to of the king, and this is how young people are growing up now. so i see the folder, people don't have answers. there are loads of changes that effect on the can. there's no real outlook for the future. so any to declare experienced increasing that older generations didn't experience assisting me, see the whole system falling apart so as to what's been overlooked and how political young people are very 1st. notice that when pride is for future sprung up . but if you look at the middle east conflict now,
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it's unbelievable how politicized they are, because they realize that it concerns them directly into see. and that's what happens when young people are political, but feel left behind at the same time researching julia. if this is, this is when they become susceptible to radical messages, it's content. and in my research, i clearly observed that even very young people are drifting more and more to the right. so this is probably also because many are longing for radical change or the kind binds right when movements has made it part of their strategy to try to attract the younger generations, used to be not thrown onto the social media strides on participation and take talk allows uses to attain reach quickly, kind of the little cost. it's a tool for requirements who don't feel good. not good. yes, good afternoon mr. sit on someone at my score is not binary. i'll need this special task course and at least 2 times. so i pump, it's been a while i'm a progressive person, the quality is important to me. climate protection is important to me to you to
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understand. i'm also jewish, so i know through my family histories of what and right we extremism can lead to most of all. that is why it is very important to me, to stand up against this and say that there's no place in germany for it in europe or anywhere in the world that comes from back time customer climate active is to me, so joint the reclaimed tick tock, campaign including in australia, maybe there's always shocked me and hands over the last few months is how normal it is an austria to be far. right. so i think if you search appear, so there's a 247 live stream from 5 or 6 different accounts. and this is vicky preparing and my timeline is the time like experience the f pay, the whole freedom penalty of austria is like the a if these big system pay isn't just leading on tick tock in australia, but also in polls with around 27 percent party lead
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a habit kiko pushes the rhetoric in one direction. right. right. and the people who we meet or have a barbecue in the garden, right? families where there's a father and a mother, to the if the bill to own media world. early on with facebook, youtube and f p o t v website to reinforce the messages and distribute the far right content and conspiracy theories. it's a far right that code shame, but the sound proof is just as the goal of the current systemic campaign against the right of civil war. the f b o has shared its expertise with its younger sister in germany. the we had in the early years, the advise they have to use. and there are many parallels like setting up a news room is having their own formats and what they should look like. it's all one to one copy the ad, building, alternative media networks, etc. otherwise, you know, australia and s p, a politician who donated 16 years ago has been resurrected on take told you
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a kind of maybe the inventor of contemporary right when populism and he's reliable messages making a political come back. they're trying to stop me because i'm fighting for u. z amongst which is an expert on the right wing sentiment. he's written a book on digital fascism. let's see how those might know the way i see that they offer space for emotions additional just because they not only allow you to feel annoyed by people who use gender neutral language or have blue hair or whatever is on that. but they also enable you to actively oppose that mr. diggs, i know you feel like you've uncovered a conspiracy. steve, you've understood a system windows and that's an empowerment they offer the bar not they want to bad us from eating our pork sausage and snips. so, you know, and i can tell you, i was going to let them take my kids so nobody touches my ship so much. that doesn't ultimately populism by algorithms as we'll have to in the content system attended by social media fitness twins. how can we then people just say,
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what's being said, that's what related to it. now if you come along with normal fact checking, who cares? or counter arguments or questions about society or forget it or just just elizabeth india schnitzer finish clutch. now that's a recipe that works internationally. 24 is our final battle. you put us in was uh, as i can, tommy listed in the usa se great. again in the u. k, it's a take back control on us, or con us the own france. we induction, it doesn't me. so i but in germany, harking back to the past isn't so easy. you have to take it even within the a, f d i. there are different. good old days, not fixed. i come about, i don't know for some, it's a post war period under conrad at an hour to do the for others. it's a good old east germany. i use that one and for quite a few is that period from 1933 onwards. us go up and on. so at the end, the ais each box. so this is, tanya is quite typical of guns too, cuz we've been human lawyer and, and this young people feel there's no direction or anti, i won't get that they aren't being considered or can't participate. the thing is
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tied up and they might find these installed perspectives appealing and what that's going to pass back to you that can happen. you have this done, i'll talk to the science comes on, such as destiny, guys, or you have to watch this. now this is how it's done. yeah, zip fascists are sitting here. yeah, of the is the peach the f. the is the political arm of right wing extremist fashion and for the to go on as a politician. i deal with these actors directly with this being. so that's why my focus is on those who represent the new right in the political arena. you know, your best if i create the mean it's odd to accuse me of only talking about the opportunity to nobody because of course being who else is going to talk about them is always on somebody. yeah. vision. but what day is it? yes. wouldn't it be good to have a calendar? so this is, this is our, the port chasing calendar. the top 12, a deportation airplanes. and i've seen it looks like it doesn't, don't gotta be fake, right? my satellite, it's real, it's the a d and button written down to show which is what it does. it's definitely
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escalated over the last few years if you will. i also noticed that within myself and therefore as a new member of state parliament, i hesitate to call the green party eco terrorist. that wasn't a term i used. i didn't need my books up. i was, you know, i wouldn't be able to, people constantly call you or not. so you naturally, you get worked out and things escalator cycles. is he done to the going to the island and solve it? teaches up to the all the lectures we'll say plus i do live streams on tick tock almost every day because the team focusing on the a, m d and trying to convince people that voting from them might not be a good idea of in comes to supporting funds, well it can you really justify voting for people who deny the holocaust design?
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so yeah, i don't know if you can justify it with. okay, but we need to right wing party because we have the cd and c s. u i the, the problem is see, do you see us you was to central to center left for people was that's the problem was yeah, literally and stuff instead of probably a couple of them will do. i have to have moderators who commute other user system. we've all agreed to use a hash tag, reclaim tick tock for this effort. and then the goal is still to spread awareness either something as well, but it's become very, very challenging because some people reject everything we present to the new existence and then show how the height of this up to the investment in the fall gift is almost in the finance, a donkey song, i'm the you. i did have one case recently with someone during the young alternative for germany through a friend. we explain what it means to be in there and he said, ok, i'm out because it couldn't reconcile it with his own values. lifestyle, but shocked him. most was realizing he was an,
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a classified right wing organization. it may be under intelligent surveillance skills watsonville, an organization that's classified as right. we extreme is not compatible with germany's basic lou. it's written as the constitution that opposes democracy. who we use the new royce, what ideology is that they promotion and what will it lead to? let's go down the rabbit hole. we'll begin with the f d. 's use policy, the young alternative. they mainly use social media to recruit members and have easily accessible ledger activities, such as so called patriotic hikes, gaming events on discord. they woke up when it woke. politics doesn't want you to feel like you're part of the community. mostly they want you to keep your country housman hides a, hijack hobbies and gaming subcultures with the people quickly become part of a whole new world, hired on a computer where they adopt that world's vocabulary inside jokes and references decides that can give someone a new form of group affiliation against?
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no, i think if i'm hoping to be honest, kept getting why used as well in the supposedly vast, free speech, stone of cyber space, right wing subcultures have been entrenched for decades in the file. right. main accounts forums like full chance conspiracy theory, blogs, trolls massaging is big subcultures and other radical communities. most of which predominantly consist of the young man's. these groups operate with set rules and inside jokes, and then migrate to bigger platforms does come into effect as you can actually trays how people who posted, right, we can content in youtube brands and 2010. now the air being social media experts and so those are the party hires of this one for me to expel them. but of the, the home depot calls. that seems if you guys like to have a lot of money to recruit people, if it didn't come, you can learn a lot. also, when you work for the up, the, the, i talk to this people who are in the identity area move mentioned with the young alternative to support themselves while continuing their activism on the street side to it's a win win situation for those working for the
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a if the household and convince adults only 50 mentions done, felt the of the of, i think i've just had some, i've applied this approach using maximillian car as a prime example. saw like now just an upload of these videos would find audiences themselves because this is the so called institute for state policy run by 5, right? publish it goods, cooper, check young, right when you're late. so trying to you, for example, on how to use new tech is propaganda tools. it loses high speed, whether it's bitcoin as me montela ground. we must always use the best cutting edge technologies to stay ahead of them via a few weeks up the media. uncover the infamous pulse to amazing, you'll find right figures and conservatives among the attendees with cooper checks all 3 in focus on mountain cell now to present to the book in which he also drools on the popular file. right? conspiracy theory of the great replacement expulsion plans we discussed at the meeting of to the media are exposed to millions took to the straits in protest. zelner presents himself as a dissident and cold for a press conference,
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and the majority of the social media accounts have been de platforms including his take talk. that's a, this is teller, good size, finance. speed of the not many new right networks use a tactic where they reversed things, flipping the narrative and swapping roles and organ photoshoot quickly. so they'll say they're the ones who upholds democracy. freedom and human rights portray everyone outside the group as enemies of democracy and human rights that mention the sebastian. such as the documentation center of all story and resistance which monitors extremist and has been documenting nothing crimes for 60 years. there's evidence to show that close ties between the a, f d f p o, the identity area of tennessee, not as a, not a mountain selling there belonging to the top congress, but europe in neo fascist movement space in new york for she's in recent years and they several movements managed to extend the nationalism to a european level, as they say things like europe 1st and europe awakens causing it to another piece.
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not so a whole bunch of a whole part of our bag and we don't use the term new right here that says i particularly have refused to nice clothes because you only need to scratch the surface a bit. and the old fashioned them emerges. i'm come to for she will stop at 4. ready in the meantime, if someone says with the last generation that can stop the great replacement, they should expect that someone could believe them and take the perpetrator of the new zealand attack and money she wrote into the manifesto and this confession, because if i hadn't done it since i hadn't killed people, i would have been guilty of it. you should think it was to see on the show. no understanding as mister somerset,
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i have nothing to do with that is konita feel how can i help it if someone takes a great replacement literally? well, of course, why wouldn't it be taken literally walmsley's home, some information about his name and the right thing symbols part 3 and to get straight to the point. yes, i know that this flag, it's listed long before the nazis on line or for the nazis. this whole story on the notion of the nato is germany for germans corners out just enough in noise. that's what the right we want to order, but they come up with new things where it likes german culture of germany. but normal immigration and the do you think it's an attention trapped? because we keep elevating the right wing instead of focusing on people doing something against the right. and it was my for on people who are working to make
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society function differently. rather than in a big competition owens comes on, so the more and more codes kept appearing under my videos. yeah. so at 1st there were ones i knew like $88.00 or ones i could figure out like that waving emoji. that looks a bit like the hitler salute resemblance i of a, but then words and emoji is started coming. that didn't seem to fit at all. and i was suddenly confronted with all these codes and confronted them. it didn't even cost, never lose, just never lose. your smile is a cheesy wall sticker and a right wing co, then escape because the smile refers to this one as us is. so it's more like never lose your smile and never stop continuing hitler's mission us fluctuation is
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a thoughtful for randomly popping up on completely different topics is a huge advantage. and i think that's how many people realize they're interested in the topic, but at their own pace. to see and then the in about an m temple start to finish looking at of non footage from the final days of the war. and let's say when us troops liberated the city from the nazis for this photo of jewish business, men being herded through labor, taking this all belongs to the united states, holocaust memorial museums collection. but what about the nazis on your doorstep today? i'll show you how you can research that and the archive you mentioned to me on people are extremely interested in nazi crimes exist. they don't know much, but that's not a bad thing. i find it admirable that so many of them as so called stupid questions and the comments on the, on. i'm not a historian and i don't have deep knowledge of the period, but i just know where to look things up and do research on these days. the
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questions people ask until they give me a really feed into how i plan my content and then the so part of the comments are too harsh as it contains seriously. theories are trivialized or denied the whole of cost. i usually delete them myself. everybody come and it's a safe space for me to but, and i don't want to read that every day. it's amazing. listen, that's the comments that bothered me. the most was when someone wrote and had a left wing this 5, i know you live on streams, which is roughly where i live only defending this, which when the when that, that's good, like the flinch of a. but it doesn't scare me, kind of maybe it's not. you have to say this, but i think these people are much stronger on the internet than in real life. shitstorm. but to shit, storm on threats and insults are practically inevitable. who by stupid no longer surprises anyone, that's who it's even part of the deal. and then i'm thinking we've reached a point where you ask yourself, is this normal? no, you categorize it not to. is this a death threat?
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cuz there's something to report to the police like, i mean, we often report people like, you know, they give me assist you. um, but i'm honestly, this is honestly, it's not pleasant. don't read too much of it. and so if you try to have someone else handle it for you, you can take care of yourself as a customer offers by us and someone's writing initiates, can never use again the agitator and so hosting sunsets, session copeland this i also wonder where the line is between populism in indoctrination today because they often are people who are fundamentally reject sources that don't fit their own narrative out of this to. it doesn't matter if it's from public broadcasting or private stations is and isn't the case. and such as les this or fascist. as well, so if it's doesn't work, nissan. tasha them is always right wing holiday. luckily fascism is a political turn. the right use us to deal legitimize opponents in people don't understand that you can be anti fascist. and right wing conservative saying human dignity is inviolable or that every human is equal to the index of the clear message against fascism on. so if they stand behind the basic law i,
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they're already anti fascist. included me 75 years of germany's basic law. but the mood is an old but celebratory. society hasn't just become polarized, but also fragmented. what's missing is solidarity. numerous politicians have incorporated reclaimed, take talking to the videos. as of the summer of 2024, they were more than 45000 post tons of the hash tag. and the initiate has reported 120000000 views. but he's not enough to spock, a trend when most people make use of the voice. at least one thing is certain, the political battle ground of take talk is no longer being left to its own devices . dimension of people on tick tock aren't stupid, don't like an engage them intellectually. with no means constitutions. were you speaking of young's claw sounds crazy. i know, but i make videos about nancy crimes and it works for me to get all the
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