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of ocean consultation on the chip talk has become a political battlefield. i go with this population, my algorithm government the, if these rising to become a minority in our own country, the young people turning to the royce the what's happening on slick talk. i guess i'm some say we live in a dictatorship, they only see 2 parties. it could be a d and the greens young people just trust the if the if i post on thursday friday
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morning, i wake up thinking now i have to do this to myself all over again in the sizes who's fighting against the couple guys, platform isn't yours, the internet isn't yours, but we're not putting up with this just because you're loud. we're taking this battling. follow us down the ramp at home. the hello world. it's 2024. is this normal now? visa, apparently we're right. we thought, but we're just normal, sophomore, more miles. and so what does germany? but normally funny, just because i don't want to live in an islam is neighborhood. yeah, totally normal. they go is are no go areas. women are preyed upon it because a lot of things refugees are all too eager to stand. people may assess the consequences of population replacement. be aware of the last generation for re migration gets to turn in. and of course i make policies for minorities. that's why
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it's so diamonds, of course we have from the history and digital publish a hash tag, l team did a deep dive into german and austrian right when populist take to bubbles and we travel to a club of people who helped us understand this madness. why the right wing populism in take told go so hand in hand and i, i knew that all you need or one or 2 snappy sentences hold, or if you want to rant against the corrupt deletes. so you can easily package that into a short video, signed the videos for parking, how a young people being radicalized on social media, what role to follow, right. and it was play for political policies. once these constant barrage of slogans hooks and punch lines doing to a climate of opinion and where will it end if nobody's stands up to it? then thoughts, not much, yet germany is marching in lock step once again, life marching in long step against those who think differently against the dissidents. king, i'm not saying the real man or patriot. that's enough. it's kind of sign up. but
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we're also here to look at resistance on take told what's working, who's resisting, and what cost. we can take to our staff that's 2024 is a super election here with more than 2000000000 people worldwide being called to vote, including in the year to him and he will see elections in 3 federal states. austria has its legislative election to date polls predicted right when populace will do well. anal poor elections the far right populace policy i, if the reach is most people won't take talks in any of the gym and policy without the 6000000 likes of the 5 gym. and politicians with the most follow is 3 i f d, including the gal klaus us, 100 quick legs. somebody got it. i'm just so he has his own theory about why the a f the does so well on. social media is i don't even mean, but it started with the political talk shows. we weren't invited onto this as we never got invited we cited in the right. and then we'll have to go on to social media. i think the f d 100 stopped us for social media right from the start. i like the funding made up
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by the or a few years ahead of other parties and parliamentary groups because we've been on line for a long time. i got the expertise. yeah. one device and when the expertise at all the a f d off and criticizes talk shows, but not inviting them on. yet the leaders have appeared on almost all major talk shows as you really want to leave you in. well yes, at some point, miguel klaus does take talk live streams. he's been on the platform for years and holds the seats and the to him and state parliament. the people come out of it. i mean, i do pretty much all of the took talk channel. i make the videos, i have a sub titles and background music everything and then i just search for ethic music, usually guide. and then you get suggestions and i choose something suitable. cause i also put an epic music with piano use that a month when it is a 2 dramatic is also the diesel commodities. that sound straightforward, but what's behind is choked sound. the rhythm is different from other social media
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platforms. any video can get views regardless of whether it's creation, it has fall, it was on north. what's time is measured down to the milli seconds. those who stay get more of the same. the light of the band, the sympathizers grew up on social media, wasn't the party said that if you want people to talk about us, if you want these issues to be discussed, whether you want to share, share, share, and then they're used to it in time. and does this include, doesn't z as he does and puppies, many or if the supervisor our team at the, by the some of those people set up 2 or 3 accounts on their own and prolong a if the messages by re posting them to you for letting on in teams, it is a bold trust and re post them a t for in these are guns that can make a lot deeper, but you'll also find in authentic accounts, which covertly spread a if the messages gibbs deed for deck i've debo charleston, a couple items here's an example of an, you know, send, take accounts. it has an if shall sounding names and carefully planted content.
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that's fontas pulse, according to take towards the latest quarterly transparency report, a network of 32, you know, authentic accounts with blocks. the accounts posted content to amplify a if the narratives and russian state media arguments to manipulate political, disclose the germany east, take 12 now the rhythm playing into the hands of right. we networks. we asked the company, but they just referred us to the community guidelines on height speech, for example. the chinese platform take talk is the fastest growing social media app in germany alone. 20.9000000 people use it one quarter of the population. the situation is similar in australia with $2100000.00 uses the average usage time is one and a half hours per day. rapid radicalization of young people and tick tock. what do take talking politics? having comments for condos to me or is a social democrat in berlin, state parliament, he posts about radicalization,
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mostly and pushing the social media and all social media is also a social space to reclaim reclaiming it from right wing extremists and all extreme ethics in general is a task we must not fail on because otherwise we will have a huge problem. i'm just but i'm just on some. i'm huge and an easy disappointment . and if i started making content and expressing our politics be a if i wouldn't stand a chance. maggie posted one of the 1st videos with the hash tag reclaimed take token march 2024. this concept, the concept is simple. we flood take talk with progressive content and have polls even content. the climate active sci, i've been fighting climate change for 5 years now. and join the climate schools directs at 16 schultz fridays for future. didn't the launch weekly tick tock, staff, but the project team from people who are active there on the type of as time to
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reclaim tick, tock, the bar. it took to the streets. emilio awesome. this high a create account for your friends to join and make videos with regarding tick tock . we're not just taking the platform back, but we're also we cleaning an entire generation even my back when we started organizing fridays for future protests. it's this idea that the young generation was progressive. you won't get up politically engaged and cared about the world was a given a home. that's what the us yet. so but, and now it's a big question mark, which was part of size. so let's talk about young people because they're dissatisfied, worried, and clearly drifting to the wrong. so according to a recent online, you study 25 percent. don't know who to vote for 10 percent don't want to vote. and off the remainder of 22 percent would vote for the f d pull than ever before. the studies of 814 to 29 year olds, 2 sets of ac lift behind and generally pessimistic about the future to understand why we spoke to. so she ologist a dean of my philosophy,
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who was recently awarded to him and he's the order of merits that he's worked your box and yet your to off between me and this is how young people are growing up now . so i see the older people don't have answers, there are loads of changes that effect on the can. there's no real outlook for the future. so, and if you care, experiencing crises that older generations didn't experience and stuff, you may see the whole system falling apart. so as to what's been overlooked and how political young people are then the 1st notice that when pride is for future sprung up. but if you look at the middle east conflict now it's unbelievable how politicized they are. because they realize that it concerns them directly into see, and that's what happens when young people are political, but feel left behind at the same time researching julia. if this is, this is when they become susceptible to radical messages is content. and in my research, i clearly observe that even very young people are drifting more and more to the right. so this is probably also because many are longing for radical change or the confines right when movements has made it part of their strategy to try to attract
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the youngest generations. used to get an answer on the answer to social media slides on participation and take talk allows users to obtain, reach quickly, kind of the little cost. it's a tool for requirements who don't feel good. yes, good afternoon mr. sit on someone at my school is not binary, i'll need this special task course and at least 2 tanks site. it's been a whole. i'm a progressive person. the quality is important to me. climate protection is important to me. you don't understand. i'm also jewish. so i know through my family histories of what and right we extremism can lead to most of all, that is why it is very important to me at a stand up against this and say that there's no place in germany for it in there up or anywhere in the world, the type of thing on some back time customer. so i made activists to me, so joint the reclaim tick tock campaign, including in australia, the
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movie there's always shocked me and has over the last few months the is how normal it is. an austria to be far right. if you search appear, so there's a 247 live stream from 5 or 6 different accounts and they keep appearing and my timeline and the time to experience the f pay, the whole freedom policy of austria is like the f. these big system, the pay isn't just leading on tick tock in australia, but also in polls with around 27 percent party lead a habit. kiko pushes the rhetoric in one direction. right. right. and the people who we meet or have a barbecue in the garden. right? families where there's a father and a mother to the if the bill to own media world. early on with facebook, youtube and f p o t v website to reinforce the messages and distribute the far right content and conspiracy theories. it's a far right that code shame, but the sound proofed is just is the good of the current systemic campaign against
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the right of civil war. the f b o has shared its expertise with its youngest sister in germany, who had in the early years, the advice they have to use. and there are many parallels like setting up a news room is having their own formats and what they should look like. it's all one to one copy the ad building, alternative media networks, etc. who i talked you know, australia and s p a politician who donated 16 years ago has been resurrected on take talking. you a kind of maybe the inventor of contemporary right when populism and he's reliable messages making a political come back they're trying to stop me because i'm fighting for you. z amongst like is an expert on the right wing sentiment. he's written a book on digital fascism. let's say i don't know if my know the way i see that's what they offer space for emotions additional just because they not only allow you to feel annoyed by people who is gender neutral language or have blue hair or
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whatever is on that. but they also enable you to actively oppose them. mr. dickens, i know you feel like you uncovered a conspiracy. steve, you've understood a system windows and that's an empowerment they offer the bar. no, they want to bad us from eating our pork sausage and sniff. so, you know, and i can tell you, i will let them take by it so nobody touches my sniff so much. that doesn't ultimately, populism by algorithms as well have to in the contents has to be updated by social media. been dictated for and so for me then people just say what's being said, that's what related to it. now if you come along with normal fact checking, who cares or counter arguments or questions about society or forget it or just just elizabeth indian schnitzer finished clutch. now that's a recipe that works internationally. 24 is our final battle. you put us in with as i can, tommy listed in the usa say great, again in the u. k, it's a take back control on. i cannot see own france induction. that doesn't me. so i but in germany and harking back to the past,
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it isn't so easy and i'll have to take it even within the f d i. there are different. good old days, not fixed. i come about an hour for some, it's a post war period under conrad at an hour to do the for others. it's a good old east germany. i use that one. and for quite a few is that period from 1933 onwards, such as will happen on southland disease 5. so this, this don't just is quite typical guns too, cuz one venue with lloyd to and, and this young people feel there's no direction or anti, i won't get that they aren't being considered or can't participate at the scene this time. and they might find these installed perspectives appealing, and they'll look, that's going to pass back to you that can happen. you know, as this done, i'll talk to you the science comes on, such as testing, guys, you have to watch this. now, this is how it's done. yeah, zip fascists are sitting here. yeah, of the zip code, each of the is the political arm, upper right wing, extremists and fashion and for the to go on as a politician. i deal with these actors directly with this being. so that's why my focus is on those who represent the new right in the political arena. you know,
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your best to, for creating the mean. it's hard to accuse me of only talking about the opportunity to nobody because of course being who else is going to talk about them is always on somebody, no vision, but what day is it? yes. wouldn't it be good to have a calendar? so this is, this is our deportation calendar, the top 12 deportation airplanes. and obviously this looks like it does don't distance gotta be fake, right? and i, sadly it's real, it's the d and button written down to show which is what it does. it's definitely escalated over the last few years if you will. i also noticed that within myself and therefore as a new member of state parliament, i hesitate to call the green party eco terrorist. that wasn't a term i used. i didn't need money. i was, you know, i wouldn't, these people constantly call you or not. so you naturally you get worked out and things escalator stipends. is he the, to the going to the solve? it teaches that the all the or
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the, let's do live streams on tick tock almost every day because of the team focusing on the a, m d and trying to convince people that voting from them might not be a good idea of in comes to supporting funds well it can you really justify voting for people who deny the holocaust design? so yeah, i don't know if you can justify it with ok, but we need to right wing party because we have the cd and the su i the, the problem is a cd. you see, i see you is to central to center left for people. so that's the problem was yeah, me telling stuff instead of problem temple and then we'll do. i have to have moderators who commute other user system. we've all agreed to use a hash tag, reclaim tick tock for this effort. and then the goal is still to spread awareness
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either something as well, but it's become very, very challenging because some people reject everything we present to the new existence and then show how the height of this opportunity in the fall gift is almost in the finance a domino song, i'm the you, i did have one case recently with someone during the young alternative for germany through a friend. we explain what it means to be in there. and he said, ok, i'm out. you might have because he couldn't reconcile it with his own values unless the shock to most was realizing he was an a classified right wing organization. it may be under intelligent surveillance skills. the organization that's classified is right, we extremist is not compatible with germany's basic law. it threatens the constitution and oppose as democracy. who is the new royce what audiology, so they promote and what will it lead to? let's go down the rabbit hole. we'll begin with the f d. 's use policy, the young alternative. they mainly use social media to recruit members and have
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easily accessible leisure activities, such as so called patriotic hikes. well, gaming events on discord, mall component woke. politics doesn't want you to feel like you're part of the community. mostly they want you to take your country house and hides a hijack hobbies and gaming subcultures with the people quickly become part of a whole new world hired on a computer where they adopt that world's vocabulary inside jokes and references decides that can give someone a new form of group affiliation against? no, i think it funds hoping to be honest, kept getting. why use that as well in the supposedly fast free speech tone of cyber space, right wing subcultures have been entrenched for decades in the far right. mean accounts forums like full chance conspiracy theory, blogs, trolls massaging is big subcultures and other radical communities. most of which predominantly consist of the young man's. these groups operate with set rules and inside jokes, and then migrate to bigger platforms. just come on to fix it. you can actually
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trace how people who posted right when content and youtube brands and 2010 now the social media experts and so those, all the party hires of the so for me to like stuff but of do the home depot calls seems if he gets unload to have a lot of money to recruit people, if indeed you can learn a lot. also, when you work for the, the, the, i talk to this people who are in the identity area move mentioned with the young alternative to support themselves by continuing their activism on the street side to it's a win win situation for those working for the a. if the household and convinced that the 2050 mentions done told the of the of i think i've just had some, i've applied this approach using maximillian car as a prime example. all right, now just an upload of i and these videos would find audiences themselves because this is the so called institute for state policy run by 5, right? publish it goods, cooper, check young, right when you're late. so trying to you, for example, on how to use new tech is propaganda tools. it listens high speed, whether it's bitcoin, his name on the tele ground. we must always use the best cutting edge technologies
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to stay ahead of them via a, a few weeks up. the media uncover the infamous puts the amazing you'll find right figures and conservatives among the attendees with cuba checks, austrian foster stone mountain sale now presented a book in which he also draws on the popular far right conspiracy theory of the great replacement expulsion plans. we discussed at the meeting, up to the media are exposed to millions, took to the streets in protest. this element presents himself as a dissident and cooled for a press conference. and the majority of the social media recounts have been de platforms including these take talk stuff. this is teller, good size, finance, speed of the know many new right. and networks use a tactic where they reversed things, flipping the narrative and swapping roles and photoshop's quickly. so they'll say they're the ones who upholds democracy, freedom and human rights portray everyone outside the group as enemies of democracy and human rights. to mention the sebastian, such as the documentation center of all street and resistance,
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which monitors extremist, and has been documenting nothing crimes for 60 years. but it's evidence to show that close ties between the a f d f p o, the identity, terry, and it's causing say they're not as and martin selling their belongs to the top condo. so, but you appear in neo fascist movement station, new york. she's in recent years and several movements managed to extend the nationalism to a european level because they say things like europe 1st and europe awakens causing it to another piece. not so a whole bunch uh, whole part of our bag. i don't, we don't use the term new right here that says i particularly have refused to nice clothes because you only need to scratch the surface a bit. and the old fashioned them emerges from comp time to for she will stop it for human talk. if someone says with the last generation that can stop the great
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replacement, they should expect that someone could believe them and take the perpetrator of the new zealand attack and by the sea wrote into the manifesto and this confession. because if i hadn't done it since i hadn't killed people, i would have been guilty if you should think of what you see, how much you're welcome. okay, so no understanding as mr. selma said, i have nothing to do with that. it's gonna need a few. how can i help it if someone takes the great replacement literally? well, of course, why wouldn't it be taken literally walmsley's home. so that's nice practice name in the
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right thing. symbols part 3 and to get straight to the point. yes, i know that this like it's listed long before the nazis on line or for the nazis. this whole story on the notion of the nato is germany for germans, foreigners out good enough in noise. that's what the right wing wants with poor order, but they come up with new things where it like german culture or germany, but normal immigration and the did you get an attention trapped? because we keep elevating the right wing, instead of focusing on people doing something against the right and it was before and people who are working to make society function differently rather than in a big competition owens comes on. so the more and more codes kept appearing under my videos. yeah. so at 1st there were ones
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i knew like $88.00 or ones i could figure out like that waving emoji. that looks a bit like the hitler salute the resemblance i of a, but then words and emoji is started coming. that didn't seem to fit at all. i was suddenly confronted with all these codes, amazon called frontier, that isn't even call us, never lose, just never lose. your smile is a cheesy wall sticker and a right wing co and then escape i because the smiles, the 1st of this one as us is so it's more like never lose your smile and never stop continuing hitler's mission us fluctuation is a thoughtful for randomly popping up on a completely different topics is a huge advantage and i think that's how many people realize they're interested in the topic, but at their own pace and to see. and then the in about an m temple stops and it's leaking out of non footage from the final days of the war. and let's say when us troops liberated the city from the nazis or this photo of jewish business men being heard through life cycle. this all belongs to the united states, holocaust memorial museum selection. but what about the nazis on your doorstep
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today? i'll show you how you can research that in the archive. you mentioned this new young people are extremely interested in nazi crimes exist. they don't know much, but that's not a bad thing. i find it admirable that so many of them i've also called stupid questions and the comments on the, on. i'm not a historian and i don't have deep knowledge of the period, but i just know where to look things up and do research on these days. the questions people ask and tips that gives me a really feed into how i plan my content. and if it took days when to so part of the comments are too harsh as it contains seriously, theories are trivialized or denied the whole of cost. i usually delete them myself . everybody come in, it's a safe space for me to but, and i don't want to read that every day. i so these and listen, that's the comments that bothered me. the most was when someone wrote me and had a left wing. as far as i know you live on streams,
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which is roughly where i live on the federalist where it was when the when that, that created like the flinch of a. but it doesn't scare me kind of maybe it's not. you have to say this, but i think these people are much stronger on the internet than in real life. shitstorm, but the one shit storm on threats and insults are practically inevitable. who by to good no longer surprises anyone. that's who it's even part of the deal. and then i'm thinking we've reached a point where you ask yourself, is this normal? no, you categorize it not to. is this a death threat on christmas something to report to the police? i mean, we often report people like, you know, they given me a session um, but i'm honestly it honestly, it's not pleasant. don't read too much of it. and so if you try to have someone else handle it for you and take care of yourself as customer offers all by us and someone's writing initiates, can never use again the agitator. okay, so what's the extensive solution? copeland just i also wonder where the line is. between populism and indoctrination . and then because i often that people who are fundamentally reject sources that
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don't fit their own narrative out of those to it doesn't matter if it's from public broadcasting or private to thousands isn't, isn't the case. and such as best as their fascist as well. so if it doesn't work, tasha them is always right wing holiday last week, fascism. it's a political turn. the right use us to do legitimize opponents in people don't understand that you can be anti fascist. and right wing conservative saying human dignity is inviolable or that every human is equal to the index of the clear message against fascism on. so if they stand behind the basic law either already anti fascist, included such to $75.00, he is of germany's basic law. but the mood is an old but celebratory. society hasn't just become polarized, but also fragments it. what's missing is solidarity. numerous politicians have incorporated reclaimed, take talking to the videos. as of the summer of 2024, they were moving 45000 post tons of the hash tag. and the initiators reported
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120000000 views. but he's not enough to spock a trend when most people make use of the voice. at least one thing is certain, the political battle ground of take talk is no longer being left to its own devices . he mentioned off to people on tick tock aren't stupid, don't like an engaged and intellectually, with no means costumes. were you speaking of rooms call? sounds crazy. i know, but i make videos about nancy crimes and it works continued all the even that if it's a very viable diverse tennessee diebold boss on the fraction of them to find
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a waste of them. okay, so, so what happens to that? they throw it away to change this. people in the name is eco, indeed bessie minutes on d w, the
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