it's away from the censorship, their peers faced across the border in mainland china. but that's all ended in 2020 with the national security law since then life and hong kong has changed and the free press as all but disappeared today marked a new low and beijing crack down on civil liberties and the territory. and the landmark case to hong kong journalists of been found guilty of endangering national security and undermining authorities with their pro democracy news outlets. they are the 1st journalist to be convicted of sedition, says britain, handed hong kong back over to china in 1997. on nicole fairly in berlin, and this is the day the nobody told us that you may get a rational pulse. that goes, i give your dates and you've been to fails. all right, and you say,

today's the judge and assess of the deal 41 to prosecute people for reporting on the information does on know in the line with the whole called a forty's not ready to go. freedom of his nature is not the answer to one thoughtful, i'm sad. use every ad capital daily. all, there's really no press freedom, almost of press freedom left and also on the day a month after men as well as disputed presidential election. both sides have turned out their supporters to underscore their claim of victory. e leaders are also asking what's next for the country and the opposition. a. clearly, my doodle cannot be recon nice as a legitimate we not of this for the venture election. we are very much awarded by

the situation of the leaders of the opposition. welcome to the show. it's good to have you with us. tonight's another blow for hong kong is dwindling. civil liberties on thursday accords in the territory convicted. 2 journalists of sedition. the former editors, a stand news, and now the phones pro democracy news websites were found guilty of undermining beijing's authority. this marks the 1st search ruling against journalist since the 1997 hand over of the former british colony to mainland china. a tune, toy cooling, arriving at, quote, the full, my editor in chief of stanton views in no doubts about the seriousness of this case . and the likely verdict. both he and another editor, patrick lum, arrested in december 2021. they were charged with conspiracy to publish and

reproduce dishes publications, which they both denied on the same day, the offices of stance and use were rated by police with computers and other materials taken away as evidence. the media outlet that began in 2014 was forced to shut down a picture and to a chinese language website digit becomes so important during the pro democracy protests that began in 2019 pro chest, that both china and the phone call most storage fees. so as a national security threat before, finally stumping them out. press freedom and home comb has been under threat for some time. the popular newspaper apple daily has also been forced

to close the goal. where it's full, my own uh, the media tide, cooling jimmy lie is already in jail and is still facing other challenges. now that these stand news editors have been found guilty of sedition. they too can expect present sentences for the latest example. the beijing is cracked. um, on free speech in hong kong. let's take a closer look with sony chung, he's a pro democracy active us from hong kong. he now lives in accel in the us. welcome back to the w, sony. now the 2 journalists were found guilty of endangering national security. is that what they did? absolutely not. um because we, um we, what we have seen is that they try to save god the price, the freedom of price. and they just try to ensure that everyone can have a platform to talk about democracy and tried to criticize the casselman

a by publishing comment or res. actually, i also published a multiple columbia to read off for the stand to use and the one called use that as one of the sancho to say that by allowing my plumbing to read to be published is an act of sufficient. so this is totally unacceptable. also maybe it was we thought, where does press freedom stand and hong kong today, especially after this ruling i think this is a fairly groundbreaking route because this is the 1st time up to the 1997 handle. the home department of justice, the prosecutor, have use this british colonial rule, which has cost efficient, right? to prosecute an arrest notice and now the whole consult has to make the verdict stats on the duty just because the publisher and editor you'd see a leading to publish articles that criticize the government. and i think that

actually has so much about the actor to the home, caught them in a has like now a total weight off. i remember to put the system and this is belong to a face space society. and like what we have seen in hong kong plus becky, where can hong congress turn to these days for independent information? first of all, luckily we still have of, of a some, a stand off we. so people may, shouldn't be this. well, i'm like, meaning china. we don't have to wait, fly will a cyber 5 will, but still homeless and they rely on 12 western result, the media sources in order to seek uh, authentic information. so meanwhile, i'll also say that i'll be advocate for my on international media to, to set up the regional faculty and home home to ensure that people on the ground

can have the sweet sophie formation. and this kind of nice, authentic information can be disseminated to the people on the crown, and show that the public can to this information generated by the document cannot be tolerated on the ground of your. of course, for us to look at the situation from a far but what can you tell us about how, how come there's a whole has changed since the national security law. a lot of the, the lies are being impacted up to the mattress lation of the national stuff digital . so media freedom definitely is being repressed us to be due to the shutdown of stanley use and apple bailey, which later on will be out there will be another products coming up regarding to me like an apple davy. right. and you, i mean, full thoughts, a lot more people like baby lives, right?

they can no longer talk freely on the street. they have to accept the sensor. so just look, just about the media themselves, get the you can patch at the layman 80. like because, you know, call in the previous e as in that case, we can really talk about a part of case we can't criticize the essential kasselman if we want, but now he's moved with the case. this kind of my self. censorship is quite permanent right now. so this is a fairly, of course, i, me concerning situation and i decided to paint on the ground is the principle of one country to systems dead. and i, i'm straight out. so that's the case right now, because i mean, before the handle, the i mean before discussing and try to handle the home call back to mean in china and lots of things being published by the chinese leave. i've been shouting back then, like political freedom, freedom of press. many people would anticipate that hong kong could be main

opponent most and could become a city that is still, i mean, start with this and compared to ottoman by 60 you in china. so when hall call, people could no longer enjoy this kind of political freedom and even like economic freedom, cultural freedom. and this kind of stuff happen. or we can take care of that. the one country to system is absolutely being on the mind in the you know, a placebo or way. so we can no longer say that one country to a system is alive and well boss. how much whole do you have for the future of hong kong? i think we still, we may helpful even though the situation is favorite start and we can see that you start requesting right now because many political prisoners right now using hong kong and the lumber scrolling. but then i think people on the broad basis to find a way to, to decide, and also at the same time,

they want to keep the momentum up. and also with the boss for overseas in many continents. they also try to, i'll continue to hold on. so we try to keep that in mind. i think this is fairly important. and in the meantime, we also see that the international community has spoken up united nation the united states. many you live in countries have white, fully recognized that all of that, i mean the chinese human right. got built in home home and you know the paces. so when more and more international and heis on charge of joint is uh, showing the costs of a phone slicing for freedom. and i still with me also because i think the well is now witnessing what happened. you don't call and i hope that's there will be more than up to 2 content every 1st uh, also retiring and tight as hong kong pro democracy campaigners sunny town. thank you so much for your time. all the best to you. thank you

so much. this will work tonight. freedom of speech is great. telegram is a relatively a free online platform. but i also realized that some things need to be controlled. and the questions are swirling in the tech world following the announcement of a formal investigation to whether possible juror of the head of the popular messaging ab telegram failed to curb illegal activities on the platform, which has nearly a 1000000000 users. today, the european commission announced it was also looking into whether a telegram was in compliance with the use new digital services laws derived who was detained in paris. this week is suspected by french authorities of complicity in allowing the list of transactions, images of child sexual abuse and drug trafficking on telegram. and the case has sparked a heated debate about the limits of digital freedom of speech. french lawyers say

it's unprecedented for an individual to be held criminally liable for what users do on a tech platform. that telegram complies in every respect with european digital regulation disorders and is moderated at the same standards as other social networks. you don't speak or go to as well. so show they thought that no, it's normally absurd to think that the head of a social network could be involved in criminal activity that don't concern him either directly or indirectly. ammonia and my girlfriend is the director of cyber security at the electronic frontier foundation, which focuses on digital rights and she joins us now from san francisco. it's good to have you on the show. first of, i'd like to get your reaction under of being charged as well right now, the biggest problem is that there's a lot that we don't know about these charges against or off. we know that this has to do with the telegram that it has to do with here the allegedly,

a criminal things happening on telegram. but the problem is that there are sort of 2 classes of traffic that happened on telegrams. one part of telegram is sort of like an open social network that's, you know, sort of your channels and your group traps and your, and encrypted one on one messages. and all of that is, is visible to telegram. but there is also a mode of telegram use where you can have one on one messages with secret chaps enabled, which is i end to end encrypted what, you know, questionable encryption i and supposedly a telegram cannot see the contents of those communications. so for the stuff that telegram can see, expecting it to do have, you know, some sort of moderation of that content is not unreasonable. but if the government expects a telegram to moderate content with the inc, etc, or to stop making end to end encryption available because they cannot see that

content, then that's a real attack on, on strong encryption and on privacy and security all over the world that would be very concerned me. you say there's a lot, we don't know about these charges and let's look at drugs as a person is here, free speech, warrior or, and a fortune has to businessman, willing to profit from hiring the worst parts of the internet. i mean, i don't think those are the only 2 options. um i think that the telegram has a reputation as being sort of a, a free wheeling space because it is very light the model rated. some of that may be because they're off cares about greek speech. and some of that might be because they're off has about 30 employees instead of the, you know, sort of vast numbers of people with, with different levels of competence in different languages and understanding of culture and of laws that you would need in order to do affective moderation of, of

a platform with like a 1000000000 users that they say that they're moderation is up to industry standards. would you say that's not correct? then i would say that there would be very curious to know what industry standards they're referring to. all right. all right, so how exactly did telegram turn into a haven for all sorts of criminal activity as well? uh, in 2 different ways. uh the 1st is that because telegram is very lightly moderated, people can get away with discussing what were engaging in criminal activities on telegram channels and telegrams, group chat. and often this leaves people with the impression that their communications are, are protected and that they're private and that they're secure. and really they're not just the platform isn't doing anything about it. i am the 2nd is that

draft has made a lot of a lot of statements casting aspersions on the actual here is sort of safe and private and the engine cryptic chat apps that exists, such as such as the signal best leaving people with the impression that their, their communications are much more private and secure than they actually are. he has also about not to cooperate with law enforcement. do you think he didn't know whom he was inviting in? this is not the 1st time that they're off has the, has tangled with a government that has the right to, you know, take criminal action or even to, to band telegram in the country. unless you cooperate it, he has gone up against the german government and the brazilian government. and in both times, he's managed to sort of score him his way out of it, especially by promise of greater cooperation. so i think that leaving people with

the impression that his service is not cooperating with the, with any government requests is probably very misleading. right. how much are other tech bosses panicking right now? or it's all clear. oh, you know, we don't all have lunch. as we don't hang out, but the certainly this, this might be cause for concern for say you lost and x. i think there was a court in brazil that is currently a threatening to ban. i x in brazil unless i as a points, a local representative who is held responsible for content, moderation and responses to law enforcement requests from the brazilian government, the girlfriend of the electronic frontier foundation. great speaking to thank you so much to venezuela. now we're

a month after the disputed election. both sides have taken to the streets of the capital, caracas, and friends of a crowd of supporters. nicholas material claim victory, again calling his opponents cowards. the monroe is also called an opposition leaders to be arrested, forcing them into hiding well, hundreds of dissenters have accordingly already been detained. but opposition leader money equity. now my child did emerge to hold her own account or protest encouraging supporters to continue fighting when she called the stolen election. the us in the european union and several latin american countries say the results are fraudulent and that opposition leader and window gonzales is the real winner. you know, we use authors like has been following all of this in caracas, independence orland capital oscar. one months after the election, what's the situation of the country as well? it has been a very about 4 months here. and then as well as starting with the results given by

the electro council and the protest evans huge, that is triggered by the us government to alicia series of arrests and persecution . like my mother, we have seen in the past. many young people are behind bars, the families unable to see or speak with them. and in the midst of those people are still responding to the child to take to the students peacefully to protest what the plan is, the century. the opposition has bound to came fighting. how are they keeping up the pressure as well? the fact that the opposition leaders are still and let us wait another, please have him left. despite the brutal persecution is a testament to the pressure and conviction. they have the democratic international community has also stepped up to defend the opposition, and that translates into pressure where the opposition 6 now are support you pressure the regions and sitting down and negotiate. but above all to recognize

that the most obvious road. yeah. one the elections despite all the obstacles put forth by the redeem and they have to tell is true. and then the one sided has been summoned to testify by the country, general prosecutor. what's that all about? well this is the 3rd citation that the receipts after this and the rest could be issued against him. but the total set today that he was his time could be seized in the, in the account in the next hours. so there's an ongoing persecution of the opposition people that are surrounded by the we've seen and also with the rest of this past week with her close um allies. uh and uh, we saw yesterday after her purchased one of her closest hours was also the chain. and it is in custody or the last numbers reaching. the inter american commission on

human rights is accusing the venezuelan review of a sewing to her as a tool to silence it. citizens, you mentioned the arrest one more can you tell us about the uptake and human rights violations in the aftermath of the election as well as mother this of those station is charging them with terrorism, treason, and other crimes. many of them are young people and at least a 100 detainees are miners, the government clients. they were trained in sheila and the less to commit violent cause. back we're seeing that many of these people were arrested at their home after a period on social media video supporting the opposition. there are also at least 10 journalist arrested as well. also many more have been targeted for be a true witnesses. the day of the elections and others are just active, political, and political parties that support the opposition. now, human rights items here have claimed that this has been the most massive tools of

arbitrary unless it's been a long history. and now, before, before there, are there worth ongoing, international investigations on crimes against humanity and as well. and what we're seeing now is that the files just keeps on growing it. this is being watched with concern not only inside the country, but of course also by the international community. and there has been pressure on the resume that you just today said it would not recognize maderos legitimacy. does that affect them at all as well? it just depends on which country says one thing for rhetoric, it's always useful, have an international enemies to blame for the drug government shortcomings. but being isolated in the region is also uncomfortable for any glass level. and we seeing that that's when columbia and brazil are crucial in their positions because mostly we don't have to big hours that are now given him the cold shoulder in the midst of increasing event as well and migration due to the lack of sweet odds and

opportunities expected from 6 more years of my growing office this week, monroe re shuffled his cabinet. what kind of term does that for shadow, the new composition of his cabinet, what we saw the same spaces in different positions. but one of the most important ones is, deals dog have a job as the minister of and of peace and justice because he's one of the most radical pieces in the chessboard of personalities and this region. so we might see an increase in repression and persecution against opposition meters. and we may see freedoms being of not having a guarantees for them. they might even as little as about to leave the country if mate or a one another term. and i want to know from you briefly has the exit has started

yet and how we're neighboring countries bracing? yes, we are. we are registering an increase in migration. and some mayers and governors in warner and columbia haven't asked, or they're going to increase a public policies to receive this uh, increase and expected. more drugs are coming into the country, especially columbia, which is the one that receives most, that is one step as far as scheduling an incorrect as many thanks i. so finally, before we go, what does the museum do when your break of 3500 year old boss? well, invite you right back, or at least if you're curious, 4 year old, the is really museum where the accident happened has to offer the family of the boy a guided tour and this time, well know what he can types and when he better not. the vase will be restored and

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