big changes are waiting for argentina, in the presidential elections, a political neophyte won there, who promises to fundamentally change the system. who is javier miley? we talk about it on the bbc. i am irena tranniuk. zirka tik-to is an argentinian lion, an admirer of mick jaeger and a supporter of ukraine. what is known about the views of the new president of argentina, javier millay, and how his victory in the second round will change the balance of power in latin america. argentina appeared on the threshold of huge changes. supporters of the right-wing candidate, political outsider javier miley, celebrate him victory in the second round of presidential elections in argentina. moreover, he managed

to win with such a margin that he could not have been predicted in the boldest forecasts. preliminary voting results showed that almost 56% of argentines voted for miley, who calls himself an anarcho-capitalist, and 44% for his rival, economy minister sergio masusa. he admitted defeat on sunday and congratulated miley on his victory. javier millay, who has positioned himself as a candidate for change. led such an unconventional campaign that he has long since healed himself of the fame of bozevilny or elloko, celebrating the previous results of the vote, he promised that he was waiting, that argentina, sorry, was waiting for a new era. argentines, suffering from the consequences of high inflation and debt , voted against the current economic policy of the government, bbc correspondents say. about what challenges await the elected president of argentina and his views on the russian war against ukraine a little later, first. a little more

about who khavir miley is. he is barely over 50, which is not much for the head of state, he is in from politics not so long ago, but thanks to two higher economic educations and personal charisma , he was a popular commentator on economic topics, and still does not hide that he is close to the views of other famous populists of our time, donald trump and jair bolsonaro. and by the way, it was they who congratulated javier millay on his victory in the elections, not the first , donald trump wrote on the ex network that he was proud of the victory of a non-systemic candidate in argentina and expressed his firm belief that he would make argentina great again, and ex- president of brazil bolsonaro wrote: south america has hope again. however, unlike other politicians in the region, javier miley openly supported ukraine and during the campaign took a photo with a "we are with ukraine" poster at the ukrainian embassy. however, other presidential candidates also took part in the september campaign, and also

put up posters with the inscription estamokrania, we are with ukraine. in a few minutes we will talk about what changes in argentina's policy to expect in kyiv, first a report from buenos aires about this unexpected spectacular victory. for argentina, it was a political earthquake. javier miley won by a larger margin than expected and his victory sent a clear signal that the argentines want change. the situation in argentina is critical, so our country needs radical changes, there is no room for gradual and half-hearted measures. xavier miley was relatively unknown until he attracted attention with his brash manners at campaign events a few months ago. a country where annual inflation exceeds 140%, and every two out of five argentines live below the poverty line, needed a new approach to solving.

we have a new president, there is a future , there is hope, great, he said what we wanted to hear, an honest man who comes to make an effort and do a good job, let's move forward, forward argentino, but the presidential campaign has defined divisions like this admitted his opponent, i told him that i am convinced that for us argentinians today the most important thing is to remember that we work together, dialogue and respect is the best way we should go, but the mile will not be easy, and it has already become understandably many are disillusioned with politicians and their empty promises, somewhat saddened by this whole situation, don't know how this will help the country move forward, at least we are voting, there is a change in the scale of democracy, but i am not satisfied with any of the candidates, haiviy also promised to loosen the laws on owns

weapons and to ban abortions, he has been repeatedly accused of not moving towards democracy and of questioning the official death toll during the country's dictatorship. in general, hamilea was a shock to the traditional political vision of argentina. javier millay has said that he will bring about change, but few understand what it will look like. one thing's for sure, it won't be like anything that's come before. in the second round of elections, javier miley's opponent was minister of economy sergio masa, who immediately congratulated him on his victory. the economy has become their main battlefield, and it is in this area that the new president of argentina promises radical changes. in particular, abandon the argentine peso in favor of the us dollar and end, as he put it, the cancerous tumor of inflation. and whether he will be able to fulfill these promises, analyzes latin america expert in the bbc monitoring department, luis fajardo.

millais was up against an incumbent minister who was overseeing an argentine economy with extremely difficult problems, namely inflation, one of the highest levels in the world, and a persistent feeling... that for many years, argentina, once one of the most prosperous countries in the world , does not realize its potential. miley kept stressing that argentina are consistently trailing behind, so no it is surprising that argentines were ready to vote for radical changes. and that's exactly what many believe will happen over the next month as miley tries to turn all of his political promises into action, but he has a smaller ... in congress, he doesn't have a majority. so miley will undoubtedly face strong opposition. also, argentina is a federal country where regional governors have a lot of power and its political movement has no governor on its side. therefore, it will be extremely difficult to cope with the situation,

given the strong pressure from market forces who will be very skeptical about many of the promises he has made, the new president has a very tough road ahead of him. indeed, the path ahead of the newly elected president of argentina is not just difficult, but titanic, and he himself did not hide his intentions to fundamentally change the entire economic system of the country. so what do you need to know about the challenges that lie ahead? it is significant that the current president , alberto fernandez, has not yet congratulated the winner of the election, but expressed his readiness to introduce him up to date javier miley will take over the position on december 10. he promises to liberalize the economy, freeing it from the pressure of the state. miley plans to cut the number of ministries almost in half. miley proposes abandoning the argentine peso and replacing it in circulation with us dollars. dollarization of the argentine economy was one of his main election slogans. argentinians, who suffer from the consequences of the economic crisis and the poverty level, which reaches 40%. they willingly believed

the promises of the candidate who is perceived as an alternative to the current government. to the authorities, which citizens are accused of bad management, as a result of which the level of inflation became over. 140% per year and more, we are talking about the figure of the newly elected president of argentina with my colleague george ehrman , the author of several materials about this election on our website, jur, i welcome, to begin with, a few words about the figure of javier miley, he is compared to trump, with bolsonaro, as the author of his political portrait on our website, what caught your eye in his statements and character? doubt, he has ideas that coincide with ideas, but his path to this position, to the position of president, he was different, that is, this is an example of a successful economic expert who does not have a big business career, like donald trump, or a military career, like

jair bolsena. brazil, and this economic expert in a few years was able to turn from a regular guest of a talk show to a kind of tiktok star, a star of social networks, and eventually the president of argentina, and what can be said, one of the greatest curiosities of his biography is that he calls himself an anglophile, that is, he is a supporter of british culture, he played rock and roll, performed songs of the rolling stones, and so on , and for argentina, this is actually, if not a surprise, because 40 years ago , argentina lost the war to great britain for the malvinas or falkland islands and actually talking about itself in such a tone that i am a supporter of british culture, this is actually a challenge, in argentine politics,

the defeat in the war for these islands is still remembered in argentina, this is a painful story, a burning page in the history of the country. zhoro, i think that he will definitely be the first, the president argentinians, who will call the falkland islands falklands, not malvinas, not malvinas, it is true, although i must say that his sideburns do not remind me personally of mick jagger in the slightest. returning to these comparisons with trump, the difference from both trump and bolsonaro is that javier miley has no illusions about the russian leader putin, calls him an autocrat, for ukraine his victory will mean that it will somehow change the balance of power in latin america in favor of kyiv, the balance of power will undoubtedly change in favor of ukraine, in terms of the fact that argentina, in fact, during the full-scale invasion, it officially supported the territorial integrity

of ukraine, in the organization of the united nations in other international forums, but at the same time, for example, the president of argentina, the current president alberto fernandez, he said that argentina would not supply arms to ukraine, and thus he joined the category of other leaders, center-left leaders in latin america, such as the president of colombia or the president of brazil, lula dalva, who said that no there can be no armed aid to ukraine in this war. javier muley actually has a much more friendly approach aimed at supporting ukraine, and he can change exactly if the level of support for ukraine is exactly in this region of latin america. at the same time, he promises to set up the most friendly relations with the us and israel, and this makes him different from most of the leaders of latin america, so he can be considered as a bridge for understanding with certain leaders, right-wing leaders of the us and latin america, but not with

the leaders of the global cock, dominated by often left-wing ideas, and to which hvier miley is hostile. in fact, the situation in latin america is quite difficult for ukraine in terms of political support, because outside the united nations, this level of support for territorial integrity is usually not found in anything... and some states avoid voting for the territorial integrity of ukraine altogether in the un, and even among the right-wing leaders of latin america, for example, the same president jair bolsonaro, ex-president of brazil, he is not essentially condemned russia's invasion of ukraine, and in fact, ukraine did not receive any support from him, brazil voted for the integrity of ukraine in the un, but all those hopes. which the ukrainian authorities placed on this president, they were absolutely not justified, and then the left-wing

president lula dalva came to power, who has an even more distinct concept of international relations than volodymyr zelenskyi and generally supports the holding of peaceful negotiations with russia as soon as possible. that is, javier miley, he will be able to at least somehow increase the level of support of ukraine and the initiative of the current ukrainian authorities in latin america. this is a significant, significant event, because in fact only a few presidents in latin america, they have so far openly supported the territorial integrity of ukraine, supported it regularly in their statements, these are uruguay, paraguay, chile, mostly these are right-wing presidents, only one of them supports left-centered views, this is the president of chile, thank you joro, as is tradition. deep regional analysis, we do not expect big changes, and let's not forget that the president

the newly elected argentina faces great domestic challenges, not only regional, not only foreign policy, but above all economic, it was a bbc correspondent, george ehrman, and you can learn more about the figure of the future argentine president from the article by george ehrman on our website, javierle, argentina can to lead the tiktok star, who supported both ukraine and trump, is the title of the article, where you can find out everything about his views and the sideburns of javier milley , elected president of argentina. well, on all that remains is for me to say goodbye to you and advise you to read our pages on social networks so as not to miss the most important news, we are on facebook, instagram and tiktok, on youtube you can watch our news broadcast if you missed it on the air. goodbye, see you tomorrow. goodbye,

greetings, friends, the tv channel is live, the verdict program continues, my name is serhiy rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. today in the program. fighting in the east and south, will winter bring about change at the front, they want to sow division, who and why is shaking the situation in the state? military aid to ukraine, what weapons does the armed forces need most, and what did the west get wrong? viktoriya ptashtashnyk, deputy of the kyiv city council, european solidarity faction, is a guest of verdict today. ms. victoria, i

congratulate you, i am glad to see you on our air. good evening, welcome. mykhailo volynets, people's deputy of ukraine, homeland faction, mr. mykhailo, good evening and thank you for joining our broadcast. good evening. yaroslav zheliznyak, people's deputy of ukraine, voice faction. mr. yaroslav, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. good evening. today we are conducting a survey. we ask our tv viewers whether there are reasons to go to the maidan today, yes or no, please vote on our youtube and facebook platforms, as well as by phone. lines, if you see reasons to go to the maidan, call 0800-211-381, not 0800 211-382, all calls are free for you, it is important for us to know your opinion, and we will start with a quick survey our guests, ladies and gentlemen, do you think that there are reasons to go to

the maidan today and whether or not it is necessary to go to the maidan during the war, perhaps there should be an additional question, let's start with ms. victoria. mrs. victoria, please. i just wanted to say that i am missing a clarifying question, because it seems to me that the reasons for going to the maidan were, and have been, before, but the situation in the country is such that it cannot tolerate some kind of competition between itself there, yes, i don't know , demands on the authorities and so on, well, we for... today, it seems to me that as a state we should be united more than ever, regardless of what political forces we represent and whether we represent political forces or simply citizens of ukraine, currently all support is aimed at what and all our forces, all our actions must be directed exclusively to one thing, to victory, therefore , for sure, and not even for sure, but for sure, i would

still say that although there are reasons, but for sure no maidans for frequent i think more understands it. thank you, ms. victoria. sir yaroslav, are there reasons for going to the maidan and is there anything that can provoke people to go to the maidan? as far as i remember, we even legally prohibited rallies and actions during martial law, the fact that we sometimes observed it, i think, including with the support of the authorities, well, they must have opened this pandora's box, but i hope that and it will also be closed, so no, first of all, i do not believe that in our country it is at all possible, especially in this development of society , to organize a maidan from the outside, it is impossible, and it was not possible, moreover, it is impossible now during the war, and secondly, no, i do not see such reasons. thank you, mr. yaroslav, mr. mykhailo, i was an active participant, not even

two maidans in 2004-2013. and the tax maidan, when 60,000 representatives of medium-sized small businesses were on the maidan under the president's office, if then during the tax maidan, i made a decision to storm the president's office, people left, but now i am not a supporter of going to the maidan, no because as yaroslav said that we are banned, it is very difficult to ban when a million people come out. but in the conditions of war, it is better to solve the issue in a peaceful way, at the negotiating table, whether the bank is ready for this, with all those blunders that are frequent in ukraine today, for example, people who defend our country in the trenches today, all

us, and a relatively peaceful life in most territories of ukraine, these people are being deprived of their rights today, changing... the new legislation, ignoring the social dialogue, is simply stupid, ignoring, a million people will return after the end of the war, who needs them, and will it not turn out like this that is already without us without me, without zheleznyak, without victoria ptashnyk, completely different people will lead the movement on the maidan, and people will fight back for their rights in a radical way. well, i will also join this survey, with your permission, since i was a participant of the revolutionary. in 1990, and i can say that during the war, of course, no one will go to the maidan, because only collaborators or people can work against their country and work against those who are at the front, create an internal front , who do not understand the consequences of their actions at all, i think

such people who do not understand, it is very easy to explain to them that they are wrong, but that such people can be, said zelensky, he said that russia could be preparing some kind of protest actions or disinformation actions there. regarding the creation of the conditional maidan 3 and that there is such data from ukrainian intelligence that moscow may think that they can incite someone, but they can create the conditions in ukraine for there to be, well, i would not say that it is maidan 3, i would say so that this is antimaidan 3, because it would be maidan four, and this is antimaidan 3, mrs. victoria, who can be motives, reasons, or what... what forces can do this, because we know that there is a very large front in the middle states, collaborators, former members of the opzh, who sit

in both the kyiv rada and the verkhovna rada, in all local councils , there are more than 4,000 people who were elected in 2020 in local elections, there is a branch of the russian orthodox church, that is, there are tools and people who can do it, whether they can do it, or russia, that’s what the maidans are in ukraine necessarily take place with someone's active participation of other parties? and you are very correct, mr. serhiy was listed tools, yes, that can be today , and that is why it seems to me, and we should fight to clean these tools as much as possible and theirs, to clean and minimize their danger, and when, in particular, i recently became a deputy of kyiv. but i was deeply shocked that even in the capital of ukraine, and the deputies from the now-banned opzh party , they were there, not just there, they had

deputy mandates, they absolutely took an active part in various closed meetings of the kyiv city council, and even headed various commissions and internal bodies that were created by the kyiv council, well, this is an unacceptable situation, thank god we removed it at the initiative of european solidarity. at least today they deprived the opzzhshniki of management positions, although i cannot say that it was easy, but nevertheless, and by the way, my dear colleagues, and we appealed to the verkhovna rada with a request to adopt and unblock those bills that are currently day exist in the part of these collaborators, statesmen and so on, who are still today in the parliament and to adopt the appropriate legislative framework in order to clean up all local councils and councils, including them, and to make it impossible for them to be politically active in the future, because they are now quietly sitting out, in fact, as

soon as they have such a possible opportunity and such a chance for revenge, they it will definitely be used, so i call on the verkhovna rada to finally pay attention to this, because we lack legislation regarding the so-called maidan, you know, well, first of all, it seems to me that the term maidan is inappropriate here. use, yes, because well to organize the maidan, well, only the russians can think that they don’t organize the maidan, they don’t organize the maidans, if someone else didn’t understand it, then actually, it’s clear why they are so feeble, they actually capture kyiv and ukraine and so on, yes, but because not all of our maidans are actually a protest, where people came out and no one organized them, and those who were inside and dignity and the orange revolution know this perfectly well, and as for the tools, you know how rashists are capable of this organize,

despite the fact that there is still a moscow church in which fesbshniks still work , there are still collaborators on the ground, and it is quite difficult to deal with them, and criminal cases, not all of them, have even been initiated, yes, i am not talking about tubration in the verkhovna rada, and for which the articles of the criminal code, in particular, crimes against the foundations of national security without security, and despite all this, and the fact that russia, i am convinced, is not able to organize anything here, are evidenced by such facts as the seizure of kyiv for three days, and parades on khreschatyk, the victorious, yes rashistka federation, we have all seen how they can walk here and so on, and all these other narratives. which they spread in reality, and ukraine showed, well, first of all, that it is an absolutely independent sovereign state, and which has a rather beautiful people, and despite

... any obstacles, and the people are able to unite, and the politicians are also able to unite, so you can shake up anything here, wage any hybrid war, what they are trying to do, send messages, now in the american military there are a lot of messages that our political bamon , the so-called, i mean the representatives of the government, are fighting with our military, but russia will use it, but that is why the ukrainian government... must demonstrate unity more than ever, and when with comes from the president's office, i remember there, well, strange comments, let's say, regarding the article of the zaluzhnogo, but do you remember, yes , the reaction of the president's office, and it seems to me that this is just playing along with the destabilization that the russian federation is trying to carry out. on the contrary, today it is very important to make the opposite and show a unified position

that the government supports... the armed forces, i support the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, there are no disagreements, and so zaluzhny's article is a request for the truth, yes, what is a little bit for us, i do to put it mildly, it is a little lacking due to the presence of a single marathon and such a single, very single information policy, but this should not be the case, this unity should be there, and then there would be no risks at all, on the part of the russian federation, to scatter something inside somewhere, i'm honest saying thank you, ms. victoria, mr. yaroslav, ms. victoria mentioned how they fought with the former security guards in the kyiv city council, where they were deprived of leadership positions, but here is the mechanism of what to do with deputies of various levels, including the verkhovna rada of ukraine, from the parties that are banned in ukraine and that worked for russia, so far this mechanism does not work, well, except for re-elections,

that is, when re-elections take place and you can change people. there will be no re-elections during the war, and it is obvious that these people will continue to govern the state, including because the highest legislative body creates laws and the whole country lives by these laws. in what way do you think it is necessary to fight against the forces that yesterday were pro-russian, and today they pretend to be pro-ukrainian, but continue to sit in the ukrainian parliament, sit in local councils, continue to divide local budgets, continue to divide land in localities, then let's take turns regarding your question , i am the author, if i'm not mistaken, the second, after my colleague, by the way, from the servant of the people, strangely enough, galina yanchyka, who submitted the bill on the prohibition of being

in electoral positions. people from banned parties, and moreover, about, well, name it, the future ban on any elections, their participation in the next elections, because if even there we already had a referral to the maidan, that's why we perfectly remember how the same the very people who were in the same party of the regions, then transformed into different non-factional groups or blocs, and were in these statuses, then... including the beginning of a full-scale war, shufrich is shown as a vivid example, this is number one, we passed this bill through the specialized committee with battles, unfortunately, it is still blocked by the mono majority to be inserted into the agenda, as you understand, i as the author and my political force fully support it. the second thing that concerns specific people in positions, well, listen, you don't have to go far, we have several offices of the president.

deputies of the office of the president has a clear political influence. one of my favorite examples is mr. shukma, who was there in the top five banned now as a pro-russian party of oplock in the 2019 election the year before that, he even headed the local branch. well, it seems to me that the person who is now supposedly responsible for economic issues, in a little enough time, in my opinion until 2020 or 21 even, such a political prohibition is prohibited by the political party now as pro-russian. this is point two. point three, indeed, i am sure that as soon as the war ends with our victory, there will be elections immediately. this is a requirement of the constitution, because our convocation was supposed to be re-elected on the last sunday of october, as it was foreseen, and the law and the constitution, unfortunately, he.