good evening, we are from ukraine. glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. for the next two hours, we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war and our victory, about what you are talking about, hon. tv viewers, talk to each other, and what interests you, today in the program. snow covers the minefields. how will the tactics of battles at the front change and whether it is worth waiting for the advance of the armed forces in the winter. the sbu's hand, or a man-made disaster. who set up a real bomb in buryatia, and what will change after the explosion baikal-amur highway. a precedent on the border, why poroshenko. were not released from

ukraine and what is known about the mysterious letter of the special services. we will talk about this and other things during the next hour with our guests, with volunteer oksana korchynska, co-chairman of the public initiative of the right to the right dmytro snigirov and officer of the armed forces of ukraine ihor lapin. in the second part of our program, which will start in exactly one hour , there will be a journalism club, with olga alen, bohdan butkevich and anna. however, before we start our big talk, let's watch a video of the consequences of an explosion by ukrainian saboteurs in buryatia, a train with fuel of the russian occupiers, let's see, take it, so full, all the wires are completely cut off, 145 supports are lying on the ground. so this is

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please vote on youtube, it's very simple, two options, yes, no, or your own opinion , please leave in the comments under this video, if you are sitting in front of the tv, you can pick up a smartphone or phone and vote, if you think that the west wants the defeat of russia, then call by number 0800-211-381, no, 0800-21382, all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will summarize the results of this vote, and we already have our first guest, oksana korchynska, on the phone , volunteer, medical coordinator of the front-line station. ms. oksana, i congratulate you and thank you, that joined the air today. thank you, mr. serhiy, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, the only one, now i am not at the checkpoint, i am in the city of kyiv, because a large batch of wounded people was sent here, and maybe the people of kyiv do not know, but for now they should...

know that in the city of kyiv, including in civilian hospitals, there are now more than 2,000 wounded, and we hope that the people of kyiv will help us take care of them, because i was surprised when, after spending 20 months there at the checkpoint, i came to the cities kyiv to visit our wounded, because , thank god, there is no flow in our direction now, but when i arrived and visited the wounded in civilian hospitals, i was shocked that there were a lot of them naked, they came from the dnipro and kharkiv in t-shirts both in underwear and in civilian hospitals, there are not enough clothes, i have now contacted the deputy mayor of klitschko, mrs. hannaya starostenko, and asked for help, they promised that they are now taking humanitarian headquarters, because it turns out that for some reason they do not have communications, they are not controlled by the head of the health department. the situation, whether to dress the wounded

, whether they have enough, because there was a situation when i found many of our wounded already sick after transportation, including in hospitals, and there was a lack of elementary things, there was a lack of toilet paper, dry napkins for the wounded, wet wipes, and i was very shocked by this, because i was already used to this process in our frontline cities, in zaporizhzhia, in the dnipro , and even before the dnipro i appeal to the mayor, filatov and the governor, please, these wounded, including those from the dnipro, come half-dressed, if you don't mind, it's winter now, the boys need to get dressed, they need... at least some elementary costumes, because well, once again i say, most of the wounded come, this applies to the moderately wounded and lightly wounded, they come naked, i hope, ms. oksana, that our tv viewers, who watch us both in the dnipro and in kyiv, will do everything

to help those people who got to the hospital and brought them from the front, because it is really very important, the calendar winter has started, it has become colder and therefore, please help those who now, only it is not about the hospital, mr. serhiy, not about the hospital, there to dress the wounds, there are strong volunteer teams, we are talking about civilian hospitals, about civilians, about civilian hospitals , mrs. oksano, i wanted to ask you about this, today the british edition zaikonomist writes that for the first time after putin's invasion of ukraine , the great invasion on february 24, 2022, the situation looks as if ... putin can defeat the ukrainians. this is one of many recent publications in the western press that have appeared and are appearing over the last week, and which write that moscow is able to turn the situation in its favor, if the west does not understand that russia is

now trying to squeeze ukraine even more , then in the 24th year the situation on the russian-ukrainian front will be quite difficult. knowing the situation at the front, what can you say, russia is beginning to gain momentum and there is a threat when it can turn the tide, and this situation will not be in our favor? the truth is that in fact the occupiers are attacking in all directions, it is true, avdiivka, turetsk, the left bank of kherson are especially difficult for us, and the evacuation of the wounded is extremely difficult for us. and now, of course, this is the kupinsk district, you all know, and that is why it is true that they are advancing, our guys bravely fight back, some local counter attacks are successful, but unfortunately, in terms of the

number of equipment, in terms of the number of drones, they prevail, and this however, in terms of the number of shells, they outnumber all of us is not enough, and the west must... clearly understand only one message, if they do not help ukraine now, they will not save the baltics, the muscovites will go further, everyone knows this, and all the baltic countries, they are just one shield with us now and are trying to represent and our interests in the european union, because everyone understands that the baltics will be next, most likely poland, and there will be a continuation there, that is, nato and the eu will be directly. to participate in the war, and that is why we need help now, we really do there is a lot missing, we are short, including armored sanitary equipment, we are very short of caseys, but most of all we are worried about our combat unit, we are chronically short of drones, we are chronically

short of our drones, of course , drones are that what gives us opportunities , the main thing is to save people's lives, because when, because now tank to tank is no longer fighting, it's a bad war, because otherwise it will go, when a small army will be with a big army, to fight, now there are really a lot of technological things , and therefore we very much ask, all communal bodies, all state bodies, all budgets should be spent exclusively on the defense forces, now everything can suffer, now we must forget about cobblestones and stadiums. tennis courts, the construction of tennis courts must be judged, efforts to rebuild some or build new stadiums must be judged, we will do it all, but after victory, because otherwise we do not need victory at all, if it will be all these cobblestones and all that, everything that

will happen now they are trying to rebuild in order to steal communal state bodies maybe they will survive there under the russians, some officials don’t care who to live under, but we will all die, and ours, our children, and our grandchildren will not be able to continue our work, it once was, but alina mikhailovna correctly wrote: to her post and we all agree that 100 years ago it was already when the central council believed that they were winning everything, then clashes began between the hetmanate and petliura, and the directory, and it all ended with the defeat of ukraine and the fact that we worked for 70 years, and the holodomor, this is a loss of millions of course, the innocent population, what can the population think that this war concerns only the military, you all wash your hands, especially now we have all the military,

most of them are former civilians of ukraine who are mobilized, and of course there are not enough fighters, there are no medics enough, that is, we need help as an internal resource, as residents of ukraine to continue the war, so of course we need the help of international partners. ms. oxano, you mentioned that 100 years ago or more. years ago, ukraine lost because ukrainians they began to quarrel among themselves, again this week and not only this week, for several weeks all this information has been circulating that there are some misunderstandings between the civilian and military leadership of ukraine, it is already crossing the pages of western media, western journalists are calling ukraine, they say , and what is going on between zelskyi and zaluzhny, in your opinion, in this situation that has now ... arisen, what should the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine,

volodymyr zelenskyi, do in order to, well just to say that there are no questions , in general, let's all be, be united, because if we are divided, then we will definitely become, become, or repeat the history that happened more than 100 years ago, well , without a doubt, in this at the same time, the troops would also like to see the supreme command. and the commander-in-chief together, without a doubt, ah , this is important for the support of the troops, for them to be heard, for them to be heard today's front, today's commanders, because i want now, maybe i don't know if it's being talked about on marathons, but the war will be won by the soldiers and their commanders of platoons, companies and squads, they bring us victory, no matter how we sometimes want it, it is for all of us... that they are responsible there, or we think that only certain commanders or certain generals are responsible, because

the supreme commander-in-chief is not like that, and that is why it is important for us that of course they are presented together, and now it is really, not critical, it is dangerous to worry, it is critically dangerous now to share the future, or to worry about the future ratings, or to do it at all, because otherwise i say once again. now the situation is very difficult at the front, it is not by chance that we are talking about the construction of fortifications, it is a little surprising to me that it is so late that we came in the winter and are only building fortifications, because we all knew that we need fortifications around turetsk , we need fortifications near andriivka, well that is, around bakhmut, we need fortifications, in kherson, and of course we need fortifications built in kharkiv oblast , where the kupino battles are currently taking place, we do not have enough of them, it is very difficult for our soldiers to hold on when there are no fortifications,

but this is of course the joint work of the supreme the commander-in-chief with the commander-in-chief and with the general staff, and therefore i hope that in the near future we will see a single team, because otherwise, if even one link falls, including civil society, without the help of the people, without the help of the ukrainians, we will not be able to win this war, because now... all our joint actions should be only for victory, but joint, that is, a small part fights, gives their health and life, all the rest, all the rest of the ukrainians must help the front, another the front no, there is only one front, there are some fighters , all the rest are working moments, these are cultural moments, these are economic, but this is not a front, there is only one front, this is the one where the best part of our fellow soldiers are fighting. these are our defense forces. ms. oksano, the president of ukraine , volodymyr zelensky, replaced the commander

of the medical forces of the armed forces of ukraine, instead of tetyana ostashchenko, the new commander of the medical service, major anatoly kazmirchuk, had many complaints against tetyana ostashchenko, and obviously, you also articulated these claims to the commander of the medical forces. as do you rate this rotation or anatoly kozmir. can overcome the troubles or the problems that were in the armed forces, in the medical forces, and is he capable of this, well, look, i have known anatoly kazmerchuk for a long time, because he has been the head of the hospital for many years and i have known him for at least seven years, he has there is one very strong side, it is communication, that is, he is a sociable person, and despite the fact that ostashchenka refused to work with volunteers and volunteer doctors, anatoliy kozmirchuk always supported the cause and work with

charitable organizations, with volunteers, that is why, after all, the largest amount of aid was given to the central hospital, and that is why i count on the fact that this communication will be, but i know that on the 5th a meeting is planned with the largest charitable foundations and volunteers who themselves are engaged in military unit, the only thing that of course must be understood is that anatoly petrovych worked in the head of the hospital, and he is of course a hospital person who spent his whole life in the hospital, and now the military unit, that is, military medicine, most needs our attention and joint actions units, now everything, all possible resources, must be directed specifically to the military unit, to help combat medics, to the takmet, that is, to high-quality first-aid kits, to focus on supply, medivac, casevacs and, of course, the stop points

of our brigades, because they are the worst, in them the worst for the supply, and so... now this communication with the benefactors and the capabilities of the medical forces command, because we expect our brigades to receive a summary of what is in the warehouses of the medical forces command, because these are almost two years the brigades did not know what was in the warehouses, and we only learned, for example, that there were american trurenkets there, only after we raised a scandal about after the chinese turnstiles, more than 1,000 troops from the command of the medical forces entered, and sam... at this moment there were , as we were told, almost 100,000 american tronkets in stock, which we achieved, 77,000 were provided after our already such a showdown on this situation on takmed, but at the moment now i know that the command of the medical forces left just the other day already at the time of appointment, and

they distributed another 40,000 tourniquets to the brigades, because , unfortunately, there were so many that they were afraid to apply, they were afraid of trouble, they were afraid of trouble from the command of the medical forces, although it is not theirs directly vertically, they they were afraid that ostashchenko's command of the medical forces would feel sorry for the kambrigs, and that's why this vertical did not work, and that's why it's important for us now that our brigade commanders make orders , what was explained to us, what i heard so far from the new commander, that in case , if the brigade it is needed regardless of how many states the application will still be granted, and now there is still a stock of american turnstiles, there are urine turnstiles in warehouses, and i think that there will be charitable organizations, including voiced, approximately how many are in stock, i know that there are occlusion stickers, and there is still a large stock that is needed, including medicines,

some of them have already told me that they are very large, well, i do not know the number, but they say that there are tens, even more than a hundred million hryvnias, this what was lost in the warehouses of the command of the medical forces and was not issued to the troops, and the explanation is as follows, they did not order from us, that is, the troops were not aware that ms. ostashchenko had medicines, that there were crystalloid solutions, which we have in tons at every front-line checkpoint, and they disappeared, the term validity has expired, and of course our partners are not satisfied with this, because they transferred it, but it turns out that it was not used, and therefore it is a shame that this system still endured for so long, and let's say , well, in this case, there is not even an investigation, we know there were moments of corruption when i worked the right-hand man was mr. ostashchenko, colonel prudnikov, who was engaged in procurement even under

yanukovych, and he was reinstated in his position again, and he through his daughter-in-law, there the deputies are conducting an investigation from there, i don't remember how many million hryvnias, he conducted auctions through his visitation for hospitals and including for civilian hospitals, this was what it was about, and that's why even this person was quietly removed there, such things, unfortunately, this says that the military branch cannot always investigate corruption internally, after all there should be, there should be public control, and therefore such things should be helped, carried out, so that the system still works and only helps, and not replaces the state, because now what concerns the combat medics’ stop points, volunteers and charitable organizations have replaced the state, it is very difficult for them, i recently saw the leaders of the storks. this is one of the best funds that helps combat medics, they had 4000 applications for tactical medicine for 100 points for combat medics,

at the same time when the combat medics went medics from the kms to check, they were shocked that in the warehouses of the chiefs, nachmeds of the brigades each had 100% of the property, that is, it was not distributed to the battalions, but was not distributed in the battalion, because they were afraid of write-off, because only now the mechanism of simplified write-off started working , there is an order and they will announce it, the command of the medical forces, according to which it is now simplified, that it is necessary to write off property only with the order of cambrig, there, as far as i understand , it is possible to write off up to 81 thousand medical property per day, these orders are just cambrig, what used to be necessary everyone had to be written off catheter, each, each, each tourniquet and by the way, not just a tourniquet, it is not allowed. was written off without first-aid kits, that is, these are thrown away , well, in vain, almost two years of an uncorrected system, and it is certainly a shame, i hope

that at least the new command should do this, i hope that a lot of people from the military will come to work in the new command , because of course we are interested in having many young, tenacious, motivated, already very professional doctors working there. thank you, ms. oksana, it was volunteer oksana korchynska, friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube, please like this video, subscribe to our youtube page and participate in to our vote, today we are asking you about whether the west wants to defeat russia, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, choose an option, yes or no, or write your own opinion, what do you think about it, we are interested to know, write, and you can vote by telephone lines, now we see intermediate, voting results, 34% believe that the west wants to defeat russia, 606% do not think that the west

wants to defeat russia, voting phones, by phone, phone numbers, or rather, donate 0.800 211-381 if do you think that the west seeks the defeat of russia, no. 0800 211-382. all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next , we will be in touch with dmytro snigiv, co-chairman of the public initiative right to the right. mr. dmitry, i congratulate you and thank you for joining to our broadcast. come on, sir. thank you for the invitation. let's start our conversation with the ukrainian saboteurs who were on the bama. as it is reported, the ukrainian special services sabotaged the baikal-amur highway, and the aim was iron-er, this highway

was used to bring goods from china, or is bringing goods for military purposes, artillery shells from north korea, er, ukrainian saboteurs managed to set off two explosions, the first is a freight train that exploded directly in the north-northern tunnel. and after that the russians started use a detour through the damn city. during the passage of the train over this high 35-meter bridge, as reported by the ukrainian special services, explosive devices were planted in it. how do you assess the work of ukrainian saboteurs, mr. dmytro, in the enemy body? well, if this information is exposed, then accordingly it is about the blocking of the main logistics of the russian occupiers, namely the baikal highway, and both the main and the secondary route, it is about the fact that the russian federation is currently receiving military

equipment from communist korea, which is primarily used for artillery shells in the war against ukraine, so the blocking of these extremely important logistical components, or the so-called northern tunnel, respectively, of the cities, is a successful, extremely successful operation of the ukrainian special services. and moreover, it is worth talking about a multi-planned combination, that is, first an explosion in the northern tunnel, and then, accordingly , an explosion through the damn city, that is, the calculation was that the russians would clearly use a duplicative, logistical route, and for transportation, including dangerous goods, so it was not by chance that six tanks caught fire on the damn bridge, the consequences were such that their location, for their localization, a fire train was used, these are serious consequences, and it is worth

mentioning that the northern ... the musk tunnel, according to the devil, they left , well, at least for a few weeks, from the corresponding work schedule, and this is a blow not only to the army, but also to the economic component of the russian federation, the losses to the economy will be quite substantial. as you are generally concerned with the transfer of the war to the territory of russia, well, not only the work of subversive intelligence. groups, and in general strikes on military facilities, mass strikes, we observed for a certain time how ukrainian drones were used and these strikes were carried out on the territory of the russian federation, because today information was made public that since the beginning of the 23rd year, russian the occupiers shelled populated areas in 24 regions of ukraine 59,000 times, as a result of which 2,000

people died and 11 were injured, this is information from the head of the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine igor klymenko, can we attack military facilities, because they usually attack peaceful cities and civilian infrastructure of ukraine. we cannot, we have the legal and moral right to strike military facilities on the territory of the russian federation, they are a legitimate military target according to all international norms. another issue is the means of defeating the ukrainian language. parties, unfortunately, there is a certain ban on the part of the western countries on the use of the corresponding hymars, mlrs and , most importantly, air-based cruise missiles scalpershadow, that is why exclusively ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles or modified missiles, such as the c200 type or neptune, operate on the territory of the russian federation, unfortunately, we are forced to state that the ukrainian missile

program, namely otrk, sapsan, which was presented to the ukrainian community back in 2016, it remained in the framework of two copies, one of which was actually transferred to the saudi side, which gave money for this program, and the other to the armed forces of ukraine. so the tactics and technical characteristics of the peregrine falcon - it is 500 km, with a range of damage, and i have a question about the second year of the war, and when are the representatives of ukraine currently leaving. the military industry is talking about the fact that 500 million dollars are not enough for the improvement of the falcon, i have big questions, and what is happening, you are not able to find 500 million dollars, is there no political will to create ukrainian means of destruction that could hit targets exclusively on the territory of the enemy country, we are primarily talking about military airfields, and accordingly military factories for production, in including cruise missiles and unmanned

aerial vehicles. that is, this issue is complex, if we expect to solve this issue, namely, the neutralization of the enemy's military infrastructure on its territory exclusively with the help of unmanned aerial vehicles, then this is the wrong way, there should be a missile program of ukraine, accordingly, a so-called missile spear, which would provide an adequate a response to the enemy's efforts, but to create accumulation bases in the affected area... hotrk and accordingly develop the military infrastructure for the production of means damage on ukrainian territory. today, mr. dmytro, the british edition of the bridge writes that russia can defeat ukraine, and so far it is winning, as they write, and europe needs a defense plan, do you agree with the assumption made by the journalists of this

british edition that this is possible ? well, let's start with the fact that, well, there are many questions for this edition, at least to recall the frankly fake information about the ability of the russian military-industrial complex to modernize, russian tanks, which are stored at bases for long-term storage, called the number to 115 per month. it is worth noting that the new york times, by this time, noted that 200 tanks per year, that is, the question here is the build-up. turn , gave information about the capacity of the russian military-industrial complex at the level of 600 tanks, yes, i told you the three most planned western publications, one of which you quoted, and all three publications do not correspond to the information of these three, do not correspond to reality. the last russian tank came from scratch from the assembly line in 2011, for which you spread frankly stupid and provocative information, including including in ukrainian.