such a thing that i fell out of the information space a little for a week and there was business there, i went abroad, and i was very surprised that when i returned to ukraine, in the compartment of the train there were 70-year-old women of my mother's age, they continued to discuss the fact that maryana bezugla was writing something on her facebook, and i just left the country, i thought that i would return and it would all fall apart somehow, so i thought that zelensky would make a statement that now you are talking to serhiy, i thought that maryana would say something, that the faction would say something, i don't know the chairman of the verkhovna rada or someone else. and here it turns out that i have returned and i am again falling into this information mess related to maryana bozugla, and i am very sorry that we are forced to discuss this, and we are discussing it because we cannot, it seems to me, understand who is really behind maryana, is she the one who publishes these posts on facebook, or is someone under her...'

indicates how to write it, or as we constantly say on the air, that it is someone groping the society for the subject of that or another topic, so it's very strange for me, and i'm still the same i'm waiting, i'm waiting for a solution for now, what does this message of maryana bezuglloi mean, i looked, by the way, before the broadcast, her last post, she just posted her photo there, so beautiful, so in some clothes and with a beautiful, beautiful hairstyle , but nothing on... sala, i looked at it and it's like, phew , i think, thank god, although today on the air we are not discussing the next message of maryana, so sergius, i very much agree with you in the sense that i it's a pity that zelensky goes out every evening with his appeals, he has access to all resources, and he can come out with an appeal and also explain to people what is happening with maryana, whether they have conflicts with the zaluzhny, what is generally happening in the country, and if he is, then you and i will not have to

broadcast these things and comment on them, but we can actually talk with you about some more serious points, and it is a pity that we are all involved in this informational pun, and because of this we do not discuss serious topics, although maryana are discussed in the kitchens, it's a pity, again yes, but we have to talk about it, so i really want some kind of clear statement, i hope to have it next week. there in the parliament this issue is being considered and probably she will be excluded from the committee or something will happen, so let's wait for next week, i hope that we will have a little less time for statements, statements of ms., ms. maryana, well, i'll just explain , why, why are we talking about this, anya, because in fact, unity in the ukrainian government, both civil and military, is being talked about in the west, and for of the west, for western countries and western media

, is a marker, here is unity during the war, if there are any misunderstandings, then they say, listen, well, they cannot understand each other there, and now we will start to help them there, supply something weapons, or something else, and there is a political struggle going on, or as they wrote there, that there really are some political processes there, before our inclusion there was a bbc release, and our bbc journalists asked u... about this, and he says: well, in principle, what should have happened, zaluzhny should have come out and to say that he does not have any political ambitions, but we watched this broadcast with ulga, and to be honest, i was shocked, because muzhenko advises zaluzhny to come out and say that he has no political ambitions, but zaluzhny does not talk about it, he he does not say, he said it a long time ago, he said it once and a long time ago, that he does not see himself in politics, at that time he did not give any reason

to say that he was gathering some kind of political force around him, well, with something, at least some facts confirmed, they come out and speculate something about this, no, he he does not gather politicians around him , he does not communicate with them, he does not hold meetings with them, he does not organize a party, in the end , well, nothing happens, you know, it takes two for a conflict, and here we do not see a conflict, here we see some strange jumps on one side. constantly, the other side is simply forced to remain silent, because, well, in order not to violate there, and you a secret, a military secret, so as not to swell, and the other side constantly takes some such steps, and you know, this is what the political the power of the president and together with the office of the president , this reminds me so much, you know, it is ridiculous, because this impression is that every morning they study what the russian propaganda says there and find out what they

should do with it, it they are looking like this, oh , they have been talking about the conflict with the zaluzhny for a year now, so it must be shown, why are we delaying, the russians have been talking for a whole year, but we are not doing it... we will organize them, no, let's be so blunt, go quickly, so that it finally happened, then went out there, told, well, let's say this, no, no, not the best candidate for the presidency of the usa, controlled by the russians, judging by everything, because even russian television traveled with him on the election tour, he came out to talk about the fact that zelensky is such an autocrat, he suppresses the opposition, yes in zelskyi's office they read it and decided so , but listen, it's a good idea, let's not let poroshenko, let's not let poroshenko abroad, demonstratively, when he goes to convince the congressmen to vote for the budget for ukraine, and let's do it, so that it was no longer so that no one could say that russian propaganda was lying,

so that everyone would say, well, you see, that’s how it is, well , that is, the impression is that they are directly looking for instructions there, what to do next, here i am i'm just afraid of what will happen next, because they have many other ideas there. then we will see further that the unfolding of all russian narratives is thanks to the activities of the president's office, because somehow they refrained for a year, and look, a year when there was no such conflict, when the president's office did not constantly generate this trash, so no one accused ukraine of some kind of corruption there, i think, all this started after the demonstrations began, which you know, then we hold elections, then we prepare for something, then we jump on the opposition for something, then we do something else, and the result is just this all accusations of corruption are used, even when they do not have even a big foundation, they are simply used in order to help ukraine less, it is just

a very convenient thing that you can always say, well, they are corrupt, we will not help them , and absolutely, well, it doesn’t matter whether it is confirmed by something, whether it is confirmed, whether it has something to do with it, because in reality there is still not a single, literally proven fact that somehow the help of the west went somewhere on purpose, well, there is no such thing, thanks olya, bohdan, you carefully monitor what is said and written, in general, about this conflict, which lives so far in statements, and the office of the president and western journalists, zelenskyi says, or at least zelskyi says, how shall we say , in zelsky, they say that there is no conflict, an outsider for some reason talks about this, well , it’s not so important, but you, observing this, you understand why this topic lives in

the information space, why they feed it constantly, that is, what is the purpose of this, i feel very bad for you noments dear ladies and gentlemen, and the explanation is very simple and even more so, well, probably even scary , i will use such and such a rush, you understand what the problem is, ah, if you remember, friends, that someone has forgotten, volodymyr oleksandrovich zelenskyi is the same person who was before february 24, and we were before february 24 you were constantly told that this person is interested in only one thing in this world, which is called the word rate, ah, that you did not doubt, as far as i know, somewhere once every three weeks, the office of the president continues to measure what is called the temperature of the chamber, i even know people who conduct focus groups for them and so on, so it’s no secret for anyone that trust in the armed forces of ukraine was always higher than in zelenskyi, than

in the president, this was the case even in the moments of volodymyr’s greatest glory , but the problem is that from a certain time, here is the trust rating of the commander of the armed forces of ukraine, who represents the armed forces of ukraine, began to greatly exceed the trust rating of volodymyr zelenskyi. i will remind, for those who do not understand, that the trust rating and the political rating in general, that is, roughly speaking, it is one thing when a person trusts someone, it is quite another thing when a person goes to vote for this person, these are different things, but volodymyr oleksandrovich zelenskyi is a person who is morbidly narcissistic in himself, plus you have to understand that their environment, his environment, well, let things go to their narmak, he he holds on to mine due to the fact that he constantly feeds all of zelenskyi's worst phobias, he indulges them, in my opinion, and that is why he has usually been dealing with issues for a long time, i would say that zelenskyi's nagging is on purpose. there are many other points behind this. i mean, before, if i said it, they told me that i was a damned steamer and an agent

of the kremlin, well, look, friends, it ’s no longer a secret for anyone, i think, after zaluzhnyi’s article, that in the grand scheme of things, well, not really valery zaluzhnyi strongly wanted our counteroffensive to begin as it did and when he started, if you follow his public, even statements, he stated many times that he considers it impractical to carry out such an offensive without an aviation component, without an advantage there, there, but volodymyr oleksandrovich zelenskyi insisted very strongly on such an offensive, because you understand, you have to support the victory, plus, sorry bakhmut, well, that's all, then the conclusions, the biggest problem now is that, well, the damned porahskot butkevich wrote about the cenomist, but he talks about it as usual, that trust rating to volodymyr zelenskyi 32% to zaluzhny 70, but again, you understand, the problem is that these people, they cannot allow, that is, any, appeals to which zaluzhny never went into politics, that he never in his life , believe me, i

took an interest in this issue very seriously, i know that the marriage of the industrious, i know very well that there are really a bunch of politicians who run around the industrious and would very much like to cover their name, but i also know very well that the industrious roughly speaking, he doesn't let anyone near him, but there is a problem in the fact that any rational appeals to zelskyi and his entourage are meaningless here in this sense, as soon as they see a person who, well, you remember fate, for example, vitaly kim. do you remember how his rating began to grow rapidly in 2022, the rating is up to the viyer and everything, you see a lot of kim now , even a telethon, and so on, you can continue this story yourself, zelensky believes that only he should be popular one, i will say more, as soon as they see a person whose rating there is more than 5-6%, they immediately begin to take a keen interest in him, yes, even remember mr. prytula , who was also on telemeters a lot at first, he was also removed, because he is also bad, he is also a competitor, he also should not be promoted, you understand, as soon as there is a person in whom there is serious trust, they are already starting to torment them here, so of course the appearance of a lady, or a lady, i will not

call this crazy creature by the name of maryana bizugla, sorry, well, it is not a coincidence, it is also not a coincidence, excuse me, you will remember that zelensky is speaking besides, he did not refute his words in any way, that is why i have bad feelings, it will not stop in any case, what are they doing it for, they are doing it in order to , well, what is the point of the activity of the cornerless, it is a torpedo that will be thrown ... into the mill and they will forget about her, then they will throw it away, there you are, they will say, well , that's it, that's it, that's it, there is no conflict, we remove it, in fact, her task was to throw into the public discourse, certain theses that will then be picked up there are more respected experts, whom they will also find, that is, the idea is this standard overton window story let's open the window what can you do in wartime to replace the commander in chief what a bad guy he was wrong he's a bad warfighter he's a sheep he's killing our boys he's a butcher he wants as much as possible of our a zelsky doesn't want to, he's good, and so on , that's it, well, you understand

, i'm sick of the texts, i can already see the deformation in me, i directly saw the specific political-technological messages, message-jokes that are embedded in this time , which she carries, simply it is necessary to understand that when we talk about bezukhla, it is nothing, it is an empty place, it is a torpedo that will be used and thrown away, but unfortunately, what she threw will not go anywhere, so i am sure that they will to carry on their business until they can somehow remove from the... well, they really need it, they really want it, you all understand very well who they want to see in his place, and believe me, the fate of war in this case, on sorry they are not interested at all so sorry for the bad news it won't stop i don't expect any statements, no videos , there won't be any, bohdan, anya, myroshnichenko, and let's go, friends, if they will go into the information space, well, for example, the military are different, and i , the way i do interviews with the military, there are many people told me that people in military uniform, who talked about what they want, want to enter politics and have

intentions, that is, this is probably a question for bohdan , what do you think, if the military will appear, make certain statements , and collect some points and ratings there, then they will also be shot down in this way, what do you think, well depends on their popularity , i.e. the popularity of individual military personnel, they are not comparable things, well, since there was a question for bohdan, well, here i have one reply, that you know that the rating of trust of zaluzhny, which you wrote about, is actually the rating of trust of citizens to the armed forces, because the rating of the enlisted man is equal to the rating of the armed forces of ukraine, bohdan, you have my word, well, first of all, i absolutely agree with you, mr. serhiy. i also know that you are what you say, the trust rating is not a political rating, these are two different things.

people who were even a little bit interested in politics, they understand it in terms of politics, and what is the point of what the lady asked, well, look, first of all, let me say now, maybe an unpleasant thing, you understand that the president's office really wants and will definitely try to launch their military party, definitely, they will look for those people who will agree to go, there anywhere, i... the law allows that there will be such military men who will go out and say that there so and so, it will be mandatory, there will be several such projects, well first of all, let's say, even without regard to the president, how many people do we have in the pixel above? million, many of them are active, intelligent, who will somehow want to realize themselves after the war, and thank god, let them join any party, it does not matter, the problem is that, here is another very unpleasant moment in history of zaluzhba, in principle, i think that they are now trying to throw a body not only on zaluzhba, they want to dispel the halo of this, you know

, heroism around the principle of any representative of the armed forces, because he is a hero, he defends the country, they need to remove it, unfortunately, that is why this attack is, in principle, against the zsu, against its image, because zelensky is most afraid that really, people in pixel will come and say, boy, what are you there he said, hand over the key, well , hand over the key, and what will you say to him in response, that's why they need to be shaken up, eaten away, so i'll repeat, mariana is cornerless, it's a torpedo and so on, but her task is simply to throw in theses that then completely different people will raise it, that 's all, mrs. tapanova, we have to do a little pause, after this pause we will return to the conversation, i will tell our viewers: don't switch, the next will be interesting. do ordinary things become unreal? heavy bags are not for my sore back. for back pain, try

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andriyovych, well, they probably don’t know about this in president zelenskyi’s office, because they didn’t talk about politics then, so yushchenko didn’t wanted to run for president, and he was the head of the national bank, then he became the prime minister of ukraine, he didn't really want to run for president, because the late vyacheslav chornovil convinced him that he had to go, he had to go, and the late hedman also convinced him viktor andriyovych said, we must go, that's it kuchma did everything so that in the end , yushchenko became president, could it be that zaluzhnyi will also be led to this, well, that is, tomorrow the decree of president zelsky will appear that the commander-in-chief is being changed and, in principle, this will be in accordance with the constitutional field, in the legislative field, because the supreme commander-in-chief zelenskyi, he decides who is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, and zaluzhnyi will simply have no way out. well, here i agree with bohdan,

because well, it's not personal, and neither is the rating personal, of course, although the situation is similar here, because yushchenko was then associated with such, you know, economic growth, and it was fair, because there was simply no one else there who could work with the economy in the government, with kuchma, but on the other hand, well , it's not a personal rating of the brave, it's still an attitude towards the army as a whole and it kind of, you know, shows trust in the army, but there's one thing that i really don't like about it, you'll remember, there was an interview of yermak who said if i...' i'm wrong, something that, well, that is, it should, well, i, if the army was winning, then it would be clear why one should trust the hard-working, but... since the army is not winning, then that's all, that is, you know, i'm afraid that it's wishful thinking to destroy is useless, they will simply try to destroy, well, the army

, and to destroy the possibility of our victory in general, so what, this is bad, because such logic, you know, is linear, since zelensky cannot become the president of victory like this out of thin air, he really wanted , and wanted to do it myself, literally managing, literally fronts, so let's be here fight near bakhmut, and then we will advance there, but it turns out that he does not govern well, and now that he is somewhere to some extent there, they in the office of the president are disappointed in the victory, by all accounts as such, and since they produce such sexes, that there saish shuster writes that no one believes in victory, and zelensky himself begins to say something about the fact that the military should not go into politics, because it is somehow wrong, well, that is, some such strange messages constantly, then i... that they this is how they treat it, in general, that here is a victorious army, it does not add to their personal rating, and this very logic, it, well, of course, it is so very

dangerous for the country, it is wrong for the president, first of all, he should study history, presidents have never won wars, not in any country is always the commander-in-chief, who is the very personification of the army, and he is a popular man if that army finally wins... but it does not correspond in any way to the president, and you know that, parallel courses, they live their lives, war is not always becomes president or the leader there, and sometimes , sometimes he becomes, well, tudjman eventually remained the president, but he had as many as two super-popular generals, who were associated with the victories of croatia, but they did not become politicians and did not become presidents, by the way, a publication was published in zzekonmisti, well, this week. it's just that this british edition is just slandering in our information space, the first lady of ukraine , olena zelska, says that she does not want to see her husband, volodymyr zelenskyi, in the post

of president in the future. i don't want him to was the president for the next term or the following terms, says olena zelska. i have a question for a colleague, you have the following. well, how about your president, zelski, to remain president. peace and not become the president of the next stage, which will begin with the restoration of ukraine, the president of a country that will start sawing this money, which will necessarily come for the restoration of ukraine, because such a danger actually exists, if zelenskyi and his entourage want a friend of the presidential term, then this , the entire image of the president, who seeks victory and leads ukraine to victory, it will simply dissipate very quickly, because we see how, in principle, the west reprimands corruption in ukraine, we see how judges are taken with

bribes, we see how heads of central authorities are taken with bribes, and well it will obviously continue as well, what do you think about it, anjo? you know, serhiy, i think that, i think that with regard to the second term, i don't know what, if i were hired now in the pr service of the president, i really don't know what i would advise him, how him to go for a second term, uh, i would probably tell him, don't ever do that, don't ever do that, because i see how in the first, for this term, i see how appetites grow, i see that these appetite, they continue to build up, here we are... with you, i don't know if we will raise the topic of these fortifications, sergey, what will be built in different regions, as of now, and i just really, i imagine how huge

budget, in particular, money will be spent on , in particular, these fortifications, i i imagine how money will be spent, if not on the first line of defense, then certainly on the second, in our sumy region with you, serhiy, i am sure that it will be done by the officials appointed at the time by volodymyr zelensky, so it seems to me that it can be very radical, but it is better to leave, to leave and not be ashamed , but to leave a certain part there, let it be, let it be like this what the president did, and so did his entourage, let it remain in history, just like this, thank you, because to me, what will be worse, this is what i have feeling. thank you, bohdan, will president zelenskyi's wife decide, will the green cardinal of ukraine decide whether zelenskyi will run for election or not? well. honestly, i am not

privy to zelenskyi’s relationship with yermak and his wife directly, that is , i will not predict the readings, you are better than me, you know, but i absolutely agree with ms. anna, i think that zelenskyi has a chance to go down in history, and you can to fall into history if he goes for a second term, well, even, first of all, let us live to this second term, and on what conditions will he be and when these elections will be held and so on, you just, well, i guarantee 400% that zelensky will not win the parliamentary elections, accordingly, the way he had them now will not be there anymore, well, i don’t even want to talk about it now about that now about that to speak, because that is still very, very far away, and therefore , in my opinion, the ideal option for zelsky , if he, i think we already talked about it in some program of yours, mr. serhiy, it would be ideal for him to choose the role of gorbachok , that is, travel around the world, give a lecture, advertise some kind of chicken wings there there, i don’t know, making films is a good option, in fact, how saakashvili

was at one time, until he had a rivet torn there, he decided to become the president of ukraine, what he wanted to become there, i don’t know anymore, but zelensky there is such an option, and it is never too late to agree to it, it is absolutely obvious that he will be dissuaded from this by his entourage, who understand very well that no one will forgive anyone, and certainly no one will forgive them, this is what they did, and they have already done a lot, believe me, and they will be reprimanded, they will be reprimanded very harshly, but for some reason i have no doubt that volodymyr zelenskyi will go for a second term, sorry, i always now assume the worst case scenario, i will not be anymore, i always have to assume the worst, he will most likely go for a second term, that's not all , i want to tell you that in the next elections he has every chance to win so far, why simply on the basis of no alternative, that's why they are so afraid of the meritorious person, because they are even afraid of even the thought that he might one day go into politics, because now there is no other serious competitor to him, but this is what they want to win their presidential elections, unfortunately, thank you bohdan, olya, just a minute, well, i agree with bohdan, they will go,

don't stop anything here, especially that they have absolutely, you know, idealistic ideas that there will be even more help from the west, that there will be no rebuilding of all this, friends, well, let's face it, this is some kind of expectation, some such large-scale infusion without effort to ukraine, even in a case like this, you know let's say we dismantle russia , well, it's simple, we'll have to anyway, for a while it's going to be... a very difficult country with very difficult governance and not really as much foreign aid as we'd like, so it's not going to be a gift cake, it's going to be a big a challenge, and here it will be, well , take it up, well, first, let's demolish such a dreamer alone, most likely because he will do some blatant nonsense and not understand reality, until a person comes who will simply

bury his rating again, simply by doing as quite difficult decisions, that's how it will be, thank you, olga len, anna myroshnichenko, bohdan butkevich, were guests of today's program, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in the program, i would like to remind you that during the program we conducted a survey, we asked you about the following , does the west want to defeat russia, let's look at the results of the poll, please display 25% say yes, 75% no, on youtube we also polled what those who voted on youtube say, 41% think that the west longs for the defeat of russia and 59% that no, that's it this was the verdict today, i say goodbye to you until monday at 20:00, i wish you all a good weekend, take care of yourself and your relatives, goodbye.

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