state contracts and were able to manufacture this modification of the car as planned for next year. and mr. bohdan, you mentioned that firing tests are also being conducted, that is, the characteristics of this module of yours are actually being checked, which as i understand it is an original development aimed at having certain, let’s say, mass and size indicators and a certain firepower , what kind of module is it, what weapons can it be equipped with, what are the general... technical characteristics, well, look, we are currently using two modules, one module is in joint development with our partner, we have already used it on the five-seater version, now we have made certain improvements based on the results of operation and we want to present it in the best possible version so that there are no more questions, there are some small flaws and nuances, this is a unified mod module

that allows you to use all machine guns of 12.7 caliber and dshk, and nsvt and browning, and also allows you to install ags on your base. well, it will be possible to do it, we haven't done it in mk yet. if we take samples. well, the most combative, well, it allows you to divide 360°, into angles of 75° at a height of -10. that is, it gives full. and the range of work, well, the technical, well, combat characteristics still depend on the machine gun that we receive, browning is one thing, dshk is a little different, we also present a foreign module, which we also supplied to our armed forces, we we want to check it also in combat work on this particular car, in this particular layout, whether it will affect any dynamic characteristics when driving and how it will drive. will be

to hold the target and how it all happens , you can shoot on the move, you can’t, what speeds are needed for this shooting, right now we are carrying out these works, well, we hope that there will be positive results and we will be able to deliver these samples to the troops immediately, so that the troops do not there was time for preparation, rearrangement, so we will do it, they installed it, left and are working as quickly as possible, mr. bohdan, and who are the potential... who, who will be the first users of your new innovator, which divisions, who are there relatives? troops? well, we hope that everyone will join , but honestly, knowing and working and having experience working with customers, i think that after all it will be the national guard of ukraine, they are the most flexible, the fastest, perceive new technology, so i think we will still supply the first samples to the national guard of ukraine, they already have experience working with our modules and our

five-seater cars, they take an active part in the tests, representatives of various units came to test you, well, in the car have been checking out its specs so i think the national guard will be the first to order and we're hoping for a fairly large lot so that we can supply them with a large number of vehicles over the course of a year and are they planning to, is your company or there is a request from the military that such machines should also be equipped with means of combating fpv drones, that is, these rebkomplekts, which make it impossible for the enemy to direct fpv drones against these or other machines. let's put it this way, the military very often turn to us just from the war zone, with questions like this, it's frankly not our profile, but we always follow those new developments.

which are in ukraine, there are several options of good doll raps, we, we are currently cooperating with the company kvertus, from kyiv, we hope that they will get a good sample and we will be able to install it on our car, and we will offer such a solution based on the results of the tests, and we hope that the armed forces will take it directly from the factory, so that it will not be some kind of work in the field when our military is forced separately...' get a car, separately get some rap and then figure out how to install it better or worse, but so far we have not implemented these coupling rebs on our samples, you said that if everything goes well, everything will be fine, then you plan to deliver a significant number of these machines to potential users next year , does that mean that you have already planned for sure, or maybe even purchased some components that will really speed up the assembly of this machine? well

, look, there are two components here, the first is us we have been working on the market for a long time and we have well-established cooperations on these issues. and we are in advance with all companies, understanding that our sample is already entering the final stage, we have worked out these issues, prepared and are trying to get a quick delivery, but there are certain bureaucratic norms, we cannot, well, when we import the sample, we have to to clear customs, we have to pay vat and so on, this is not taken into account when calculating calculation materials are calculated for us, because there is a discount. which is provided for military equipment, for this we need to get a state contract, that is why we expect that on january 1 we will receive a state contract, we will be able to import a large number of components in accordance with this state contract and then deliver by weight, so that there are no questions in

the calculation, and the cost itself technology did not increase, or so that it would not be a negative for our company, because, well, that is, in fact, when we are bare value components, when we are talking about simplifying procedures, then i understand that surely these things must be taken into account by our bodies authorities, because if the company has the opportunity to purchase in advance, then it is just as certain, well , it must be optimally taken into account, so that the production process does not slow down later, as i understand it, i think that there is some truth here, but the state decided that it simplified the procedure by introducing these benefits, and i don't know, this question is quite complicated, i'm not sure that i. can rate it, because maybe then the government sees it, that some companies can use it improperly, so they don't want to simplify the data there even more procedures, although a company like ours , which has a lot of experience, we supply a very large number of products, can make some kind of

separate list of companies, since it is allocated for import-export, well, military products, maybe it really simplified, accelerated, and we could use having taken our funds abroad, receiving some time understanding that we will buy the products, because also, we cannot take the funds abroad, we must confirm that we use it there in the performance of some contract, and mr. bohdan, using by the way, i can't help but ask about an extremely interesting question that has caught the attention of experts and the military, that is, your company, well , announced its readiness to produce an infantry fighting vehicle for the needs of the armed forces with its partners, and then... planned silence, so i wonder at what stage we are now, do you expect the ministry of defense to announce a tender, or are there already certain, let’s say, indicators there or packages from certain competing companies that have already been handed over to the ministry of defense, that is, at what stage is the whole this story is, uh, shall we say

yes, first of all, we made an offer from the ministry of defense and it is quite profitable, i would say financially, it is probably the best, well , at the very least, from those that we know, but... but since the news was published, there has been a certain, certain opposition our , as i understand it, russian friends, so-called, that is why we would like it not to arise much in the information space, we are working, we are currently finishing certain technical issues, in terms of production, we are also working out certain negotiating positions, i think that we will implement this project and hope that it will be... in the near future, well, but there are certain delays, there is a lack of a need fully formed in the ministry of defense, but i think that several of their meetings and this issue will also be resolved, and as soon as we establish cooperation and will do it serially, we

will inform you, we will present samples, invite for testing, well, it is still a long wait for sure, i hope that it will be much faster, and that is, what is your vision in general, that is? that is, this bmp, because there are competitive offers from other companies, your parameters first of all, the price, are we talking comprehensively, that both assembly there and optional , this or that machine, it will fully satisfy the needs of the armed forces, er, look, we know the technical requirements for machines of this type, because we developed our concept given , well bmp, and we understand what the military wants, on the other hand, our solution has two advantages: firstly, it is time, we already have ready-made samples, there is a ready-built system that we can implement and deliver as quickly as possible products, now speed is a more important factor,

than money, because time is holding us back, we have several tens of ready-made units and several... dozens of units that we can quickly implement and hand over to the armed forces of ukraine, plus the price is also quite good, and from the point of view of installation and modifications, well, this is already a question of use and must be seen concretely, some units will want to change something, but ukrainian armored vehicles are quite sensitive to such requests and we are trying to speed up, unify, do some things as much as possible, that is, with collimates, for example, when we unified the bearing, made it for all types, well, we are like that , we developed certain solutions for the btr113, they were also unified, allowed us to make several options, to install the turret without making any drastic changes, in general

, we consider a modular approach to production the most correct, you need to make a base, you need to make modules and quickly replace it, this allows you to use a smaller number of base cars, less time for training and only specialized training on that type of reb, rxb defense, air defense systems, anti-tank missiles, i.e. this is the approach , we use it on everything on the innovator, but mr. bohdan, there are no specific , let’s say, reservations from the military, what i’m saying is that we have bradley, marder, cv-90 there, another one will appear there, the bmp, which had not been used in combat there before , is this a deterrent for making a decision in favor of your proposals, i think that this is not a deterrent , because now the armed forces of the armed forces of ukraine need no... incredibly large, and this large number of items, which you mentioned, this is really a problem for

repair units, i think they are holding their heads, plus when planning combat operations, different vehicles have different characteristics, and this must be taken into account by commanders, and this is an additional serious burden on commanders, because you need to know the tth of the maximum the number of cars , samples, but in this case i think we have no choice, we have to... earn, yes , it is a zoo, as some people call it, but we need equipment, we need a lot of equipment, a lot of equipment is not made like this, in such quantities, last year general zauzhnyi asked for 600 units, tanks, but we did not receive such a large number at once, because it is simply not available anywhere, so i think that diversity does not affect it, speed and money do. well, i will ask a tricky question, you can not answer, is it possible to talk about the fact that your potential in the alliance with

partners there allows you, well, after the decision is made to place at least 100 bmps there during the year, it could be, yes, it is realistic, it quite a realistic goal, we planned a little more, no a lot, well, somewhere in that area, well , thank you very much for such an answer, and then we will move on to other projects of your company . now the issue of using various robotic platforms is also being discussed, there the minister of statistics talked about the fact that there are around five dozen platforms certain, shall we say, tests or demonstrations took place there, and i know that your company, here at the arma bezpeka exhibition, literally there before the beginning of the russian invasion, at the navodi site, showed its robotic platform, which, in principle, well it was made in cooperation with foreign...' partners there, chevaliers, i don't know the details, what is the current status of this

project, will the company work in this direction? well, we actually presented such a project, it is more the development of our foreign partners, we simply presented it on our market with certain modifications already with our understanding, now we have given this sample to the armed forces and it is working properly, we are collecting information. about how it is used, because approaches to robotic platforms are very diverse, uh, different units see them differently, the requirements for them are different, that's why i think the ministry of digital affairs calls a huge number of robotic platforms, because sometimes everyone calls them robotic platforms, but each has its own purpose, its own function and they are different, it is even difficult to compare them, which one is for what and on what grounds , to make some basic one, well, as far as i know , it has not been possible so far, we want to gather the experience that our military will have, and on the basis

of this experience already communicating with partners, or we will to finish samples here on site, or we will ask that our partners cero, well, produce in-house and supply even then the parties that will be ready to buy the military, which will help them fulfill their tasks, mr. bohdan, as i understand it, this platform, which has been transferred to the military, it is amphibious, i.e. it can actually move... on the driver's side and , as i understand, it already has a control channel for this engine room and possibly even with the adaptation of certain types of weapons, or are our military personnel using this platform without weapons yet? she is amphibious indeed, but it is without weapons , there is a place to install weapons, and it is possible to use it as a platform for weapons, but for now it is used a little differently, they have their own ideas, although there are options with weapons, well, but not yet are used until we don't know, well

, i think that in some time they will install weapons and we will get an answer to the question of how it works, when there are installed weapons and which weapons are better to install, whether it is weapons, some kind of machine gun, or these weapons, which will destroy the tanks there, well in any case, the management system of this platform is, relatively speaking, worked out , it really works, because why am i asking, yesterday i had a conversation with the developer of one of the platforms too, and he says that we made a robotic sherpa system there, that is, it can still swim, but it says that there is a problem with management, because in a difficult climate in difficult conditions it is difficult to provide a control channel, that is, you have this solution worked out and it is, in principle, as i understand, really working? yes, of course, it is worked out, well, let's put it this way, sure the advantage of our foreign partners is that they started working with it earlier and got results earlier, so we with bpa,

our representatives have certain problems, because everyone started doing bpa, but there is no... this accumulated experience, so ukrspet systems is a fairly progressive company that started doing this much earlier and they have a pretty good quality product that they produce, and the rest have to learn from the wheels and stuff these bumps and make these mistakes. well, we hope that our representatives will be able to do the same robotic platforms that will be competitive, the main thing is that they help our armed forces. it is absolutely true, absolutely true. but now your company supplies the armed forces with a fairly significant list of equipment in various sectors, including armored vehicles, mortars, and ammunition. if you can compare which of the segments brings

the most contracts for your company and with which difficulties in execution? well, let's go. let's start with the implementation of difficulties, here each direction has its own problems, which we are dealing with encountered, if we take mortars , we had to in connection with the aggression, we lost the production where we manufactured mortars, and we had to completely redo it from scratch, well, the truth is that in cooperation we were able to find people who could perform these works, and we spent a lot of time on finding these works. and for conducting the qualification, deciding on this, well, for the mass production of this product, it was a problematic situation, so we delayed it a little, let’s say, but we implemented the mortar and now we are making quite large ones we produce in volumes, if we are talking about defense technology, then the biggest problem was

the decentralization and bringing of production, we try not to keep one, well, different types of... production in one place, so that in the event of an impact, less damage is caused, this is also relocation it took some time, certain organizational problems, but we basically solved them, so as you can see, we have introduced a new model, we are mass-producing the novator, we are making armored cabins for the bohdan self-propelled guns , we are also already mass-producing quite good large batches, we hope that this contract will be very important for our state and we are the next... will also be able to consistently produce such a large amount of sau ee data on munitions ee on munitions here the situation is a little different really they give the largest segment of our our contracts because munitions are needed in a huge amount in independence from production, the state is ready to take them

in simply incredible quantities, we have many foreign contracts, we have cooperation with foreign companies that help us produce a product that is already ours, and we built from scratch, rebuilt, well, how did we build essentially from scratch, we didn’t rebuild with people, this issue, we manufacture projectile parts there, we hope that every month, there we will master more and more parts on our own, the more . capabilities of our partners and us in the manufacture of ammunition. and mr. bohdan, here is an extreme question, literally one minute, what is the company counting on now. next year, will there be an increase in the volume of production of all products that you calculated in comparison with this 23 years? eh, in any case, we

hope that there will be more orders, we are preparing all the productions with a minimum of 30 percent stock to increase, i think that next year we will present a large number of ammunition solutions, i think it will be... year for ammunition, and we will already make several samples of ammunition in series by the end of the 24th year, in general , it is possible that we will be able to pass the test and show it earlier. with mortars, the situation is more complicated here, because now most of the mortars we make are mortars that we manufacture for volunteers, not for the ministry of defense, er, it is possible to increase this production, but we do not yet see the need for such a thing, if there is ... the need, we will try to increase it, bring it to a greater number, well, we will see , as far as will be ordered , the main thing is that the armed forces win, and then

we will deal with production and increase, and mr. bohdan, thank you very much for such interesting new details from the life of your company, they are quite optimistic, we see that the company is developing and is the potential to create new models that are really badly needed by our armed forces. thank you very much for the inclusion and i would like to remind our viewers that bohdan petriv was on the air, he is the acting chief designer of the ukrainian armored vehicle company. and then we will talk about other developments, about means of radio-electronic warfare, about unmanned systems, how they are created, manufactured, how they are tested by combat, but about this after the information block. events, events that are happening right now and affect our lives. of course, news tape. informs about them, but it is not enough to know what is happening, it is necessary to understand. antin borkovskii and invited experts soberly assess events, analyze them, modeling our

future, every saturday at 1:10 p.m., with a repeat on sunday at 10:10 a.m. studio zahid with anton borkovsky on espresso, my name is andriy, i am... from the city of bila tserkva, in the kyiv region, i and my comrades went voluntarily, initially a full-scale, full-scale invasion, we wanted to contribute to the overall victory, and not just , well , during these one and a half years, we were also involved in dftg, and in the volunteer business, let's say so , recently we have been talking about...' courses even on aerial reconnaissance, control of bpps and drones, we even flew a certain number of hours, let's say this, on mavics, everyone knows, and well,

they voluntarily joined the ranks with my two legs, now i don’t have such a feeling of fear, i used to work there, as a mountaineer, i always worked at heights and over time this fear somehow atrophies, yes , of course, i have many friends in hot places, they must have inspired me by my actions and so on, in me well, it's not even that i have a family, i have friends, i don't have children yet, my friends have children, i want them to live in a free, independent country, and given that i have not had such a, let’s say, weapon , i didn’t have such a thing, for me it was very important, in principle it was, i was very familiar with this course, i emphasized something for myself, i took a new one , literally, there will definitely not be too much,

on the contrary, it is a big plus, we continue our program, where we discuss exactly how new models of armed equipment are created and manufactured in conditions where the ministry defense seems to have relaxed certain requirements related to the testing and delivery of certain samples, but each company has its own way and its own characteristics, and now we are joined by vadym kodachigov, the director of the kort enterprise, as well as the ideological mastermind of the wings of revenge project, this is an unmanned direction mr. vadim, greetings, nice to see and hear, congratulations, yes, i'm glad to see you too, long time no see, we haven't talked for three months since it was said that the company is moving the revenge wing project, but not only now about this, the ministry of defense adopted a decision that seems to weaken the relationship between

manufacturers, developers and the ministry of defense from the point of view of purchasing those samples that the armed forces need there. i know that your company makes both reb tools, and is engaged in the sector of unmanned equipment, and supplies components used in other unmanned systems. so how did these relaxations affect the life of your company, or do these relaxations still exist in such a virtual space, in practice everything remains the old way and everything depends on other, individual managers, look, well, unfortunately, unfortunately, it always depends on some managers, and how can you find an approach to this manager and how do you agree with him that your products progressed, we understand that we are making very important critical products for drone manufacturers, plus we are developing high-tech weapons, and this is

my personal concept: after i came back from the war and after i had a lot of young guys die who , well my comrades with whom i fought, i then decided for myself that i would be densely, very densely and very effectively, as efficiently as possible, engaged in the concept of non-contact battles. there are a lot of russians, you understand that we will never trample them, because we have highly intelligent warriors, and this is pride. countries, these are conscious people who are going to fight , and on the other side, well, believe me, i saw who is fighting there, they are the trash that is not pitiful, not pitiful at all, so eh, now these changes, they, well, i, i understand that our state, it is looking for attempts, how to purchase, how to produce, and well, some officials who have never seen what a war is, what a trench is, what an assault is,

they sit and think. fuck it, i need it, let it be here, here, there, carefully, a little bit, we can’t do it a little bit, we can’t carefully, let us overpay someone, but if it will be a domestic manufacturer, well, what are you afraid of, because you what you pay him $10 more, where will he put this money, he will, he, he, use this money exclusively for the development of their technologies, with you with you i agree, but tell me, tell me please , about the wings of vengeance project, you showed it at an exhibition in poland, as i know, there was some interest there, a little bit of details about the state of your project at the current stage, and how the exhibition affected the expansion or partners or maybe to create a new cooperation? well, now we, well, we have made significant progress, an american

monitoring group comes to us periodically, and when they came to us three months later, or two months, they came, they say, they looked, they they say, you hear, we have the impression that the next time we will be in two months, if we do not come to you, then you will already start launching spaceships, so we really have a lot of changes, now we have developed the concept of a stormtrooper, it is a disembodied shock- rosvitovatelny complex, i called it that eye, and the tie to gogol and to poltava region and to everything. we have already transferred the first squadron, it is still, well, i don't know, so far there has been no feedback from the enemy that we bombed something, but we have already transferred the first squadron, it was called bucha, here it is bucha squadron, it was transmitted in a closed mode, because we do not announce the number of aircraft that was transmitted, nor the structure, but they are already the front, these are aircraft, this is haiky 2, we

already have a ready version of this and the flown and tested version of the haka 40 is an unmanned complex capable of carrying 40 kg to a distance of up to 1000 km, we have developed and put into production the concept of reconnaissance drones, this includes scanning, direction finding, and the optics of reconnaissance actions, all of this is tied into a single control structure, bombardment squadron, reconnaissance drill and electronic reconnaissance, it's all done , it's all running now, the combat application technique is being developed, because this is the basic parameter for all this to be launched, but unfortunately, this is my concept, this is my idea, this is my the concept and this is my implementation, i am not sure that the zaluzhny himself knows about it, because for now i am in contact with those with whom i can contact, i say everything for this, i have state support.