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i believe that the military understands that these two , shall we say, mutually exclusive tasks, or at least, these are two tasks, the implementation of which is quite difficult at the same time, it looks quite difficult, that is, if you act quickly, then, accordingly, without looking back where and how and who is there at all, yes, well, if it is based on the norm of international law, which states that the aggressor is responsible for his victims, the aggressor is hamas, so israel can theoretically, if he would be anyone, like any other country, like the united states, for example, how they acted in the same afghanistan and so on, he might not pay special attention to humanitarian aspects, well, israel is under the microscope of the international community, that is what it requires what is not required from others, and accordingly, the israel defense forces have to plan their actions on...
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taking into account this circumstance, as you have probably heard, and your tv viewers, i am sure, who follow the events in the middle east, apparently they paid attention to this, eh, that in general, a system of such a thing has now been developed , so to speak, by square, by square operation, in which squares and when military actions will be conducted, on the one hand, this sounds absurd, as our military commentators say, yes , that is, in essence, we are telling the enemy that when, how it will be, what exactly and where at what moment it will be... the israeli defense army will operate, well, in this way, we are trying to send sms messages on the internet, and by distributing leaflets , will warn the civilian population, where in what a moment - it doesn't make sense to be there, well, actually, these are three such moments that are unfolding right before our eyes, fortunately, unlike in the past years, when the war was almost live, eh, that is, secret people like you you know very well how a man who has been to israel more than once. you know that
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there is no secret in this country, although in the forty-eighth year a state of emergency was declared at the time of the war for independence, it has not been canceled until now, so there is military censorship, but 99.5% of the israeli population has no idea about this, this time there is what is called raphael craft, that is, a smoke screen over the battlefield, so we learn how the events actually develop quite quickly, but already after they happened , and will say since the first days of the war, we have been talking about the danger of the situation in the north of the countries with hezbollah, and now there was a new rocket attack, as far as i understand, launched in the north , 12 people were wounded, how do you assess the probability of opening a second front in general, if not now, then at least in some comprehensible prospects? as far as we can, let's say so, if you ask me a question as a political scientist, and not as a military analyst, which i am not ? if we are talking about
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the international situation and public attitudes, what we call a public request, yes, from the point of view of these two circumstances, a full-scale war in the north is almost inevitable, but it is de facto already underway, although it looks like some kind of positional conflict, but from time to time, hezbollah fighters shell populated areas, israel is expanding the shelling zone , israel's response is gradually expanding too, it's not fun there either, i must say, in lebanon, yes, let's say, the shiite villages in the south, they are practically deserted, eh, the city, the capital of lebanon, beirut, you can't rent an apartment there, not at all, for any money, because a significant part of the population of the south moved there practically, without special appeals to israel, that is, in general , they count there, proceed from the fact that in general: war, er, there will be a full-scale
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war with lebanon, precisely with lebanon for this once, yes, pay attention, because the second lebanese war in 2006 is a war that israel waged with the combat wing of hezbollah, not even with hezbollah as a political organization and not with lebanon as a state, but specifically with a terrorist group, yes, and at the same time, they tried not to touch the cities, which are still called palestinian refugee camps by inertia, actually. those who already live there in the second or third generation, those who are commonly called palestinian, arab refugees, they are not have citizenship in lebanon, but these are the inhabitants of ordinary settlements of lebanon, so to speak, then they tried not to touch them, in fact they did not touch them, but now the military doctrine and political doctrine, first of all, it comes from the fact that hezbollah - this is a structure like hamas in gaza, hizballah is a structure that de facto, yura controls
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lebanon, therefore the war will be with lebanon, therefore, as you say, whoever did not hide, i am not to blame, yes, on the other hand, agree that the war with lebanon should be a war with the lebanese army, lebanese. the army does not support the actions of hezbollah and tries to maintain some kind of neutrality, this is also somehow strange, well , first of all, let's start with the fact that there is a very relative, quite relative neutrality, in general, in accordance with the resolution of the un security council, which was adopted after the second lebanese war, there should be no weapons, no weapons, no armed... forces, except the lebanese army, between the litany river and the blue line, that is, the border between israel and lebanon. the lebanese army is very present there relatively, just like the blue helmets , which at the first collision they have such a good tradition, yes, it happened, but they immediately fold, sorry for the non-academic term, they are here zhevakuruytsya
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from the place where they are, so to speak, from the territory, where they are supposed to ensure the maintenance of the security regime and the ceasefire, this happened in syria, for some reason they fled further into the depths of syria and or not, for example , to turkey, precisely to israel, apparently based on the fact that it would be the safest there, here about the same, these two factors that are not recognized as factors, the blue helmets and the lebanese army, so in this particular case, the polzkor, the polzkor of hezbollah in lebanon is officially perceived and exists, and no one can do anything about it, as some structure that does not exist lebanese, excuse me, iranian proxy, which is what it de facto is, this is how some force ensures the security of lebanon, therefore, lebanon is at war with israel, accordingly, what will the lebanese army do if it retreats deep into the country, there is nothing to do with it it will happen, and if mestbaloy will participate
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in the war against israel, well, then , accordingly, the result will be, as we say btt, in accordance with it. and to what extent do you think it is beneficial for iran to have hezbollah? a direct participant in such a war , he will lose all influence in lebanon as a result, there, i would say, all the fruits of many years of efforts will come to fruition, well, we said and thought about the same thing about hamas, which is not only the entire doctrine of the israeli government, for at least for the last 10 years, even more, starting with the second minaya government, which came to power in 2009, during the election campaign, and he said that there is no question of anything less, except that he will finish what he started, and during the operation of cast lead, that is - what his predecessor olmert did not do, that is, finish off hamas and carry out a purge, as sharon did in his time in judea and samaria, what you
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call the west bank of the jordan river, an unbreakable rock, eh, yes, sorry, eh, eh , protective wall, eh, so here, eh, in but, coming to power, master. antoniagu refused this concept and put forward the idea, which worked all these years, of the so-called red lines and peaceful coexistence, de facto with hizballah, from time to time arranging point -limited operations there, if they passed there some not officially written anywhere, but understandable to everyone red lines, that 's the second story today, well, that's when the whole thing , that's the concept that hamas is not only a movement of islamic resistance, but also an elected government, which, except to fight with israel, it is necessary to feed , water and educate the local population there, to receive from israel cash, electricity , water, jobs in israel, humanitarian goods, food, medicine, and so to speak, israel accepted
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sick people from gaza, yes, there there are all kinds of serious cases, which, well, you probably heard , the commander of the military wing, he was in an israeli prison, he had a neurosurgical operation, after a serious illness, in short, now he is fighting with us and his head is in order, so to speak , which was operated on, one way or another, it was assumed that the further israel would make concessions, the less desire hamas would have to start aggression against israel, it did not work out, and that's when we hear these conversations about hezbollah , about the fact that hezbollah is not interested at the moment, but from the point of view of politics, as we are used to seeing it in the west, yes, yes, there is no logic for them to start, because lebanon, well, let's say yes, some our commentators say that if there is a full-scale war in lebanon, then this country
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will be of interest mainly to archaeologists, after that, yes, that's it, but the same thing, look at what's happening in the gas sector. in the south, public opinion polls are conducted on the ev-sector, and that is , the vast majority of the gas population gathered there, and sociologists are conducting polls, who is to blame for what happened to you, israel, yes? what do you want 90% say the destruction of israel, hamas , do you have claims, or not, respectively, k a little different from the situation in germany at the end of the war, right? this is how it happened in this particular case, we cannot give any guarantees that hamas was thrown into this very furnace for burning, and it was done by the iranians, of course, yes, let them tell anyone there that they they do not actually support... the brothers there, but this is an exclusively personal initiative of the leadership of hamas, namely the military wing, even the political wing, which
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sits in qatar, they also say that they did not coordinate with us, well, nonsense, all this, who is in it can be believed, well, no one has any guarantees that the same thing will not happen in the north, while they seem to be not interested, iran seems to be their main patron, they apparently still fear that if that's all... in a major regional war, then at the same time israel and the usa will want to solve the problem of the iranian atom, then they will need hizbollah in order to hold israel back, but none of us can guarantee anything like that, i 'm sure would thank you, mr. zeev. zeev khanin, political scientist, professor at balar ilan university from israel, we talked with him about what is happening in the war in the middle east, as you can see, we came to a rather simple point that it is very difficult to understand the situation from the point of view of common sense logic, because if we try
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here we should be guided by the logic of common sense in ukraine or in israel, when it comes to our enemies, they are guided by the irrational logic of revenge, where in principle there should be caution, open aggression and readiness to fight begins, so much as much as it takes, despite no casualties and catastrophic. consequences, both for oneself and for others. we're going to break for just a few minutes now, but please stay with us. tingling and crawling sensations arise spontaneously and disturb you. the dolgit antineuralgia complex helps to normalize the functioning of the nervous system. dolgit antineuralgia helps to return to usual activities without tingling and numbness in the limbs. capsule dolgit anti. helping your nervous system. on december 10, i will visit lviv.
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we continue the political club on the espresso tv channel, with you vitaliy portnikov, we will now talk with myroslav chech, a polish politician of ukrainian origin, a member of the diet of the second and third terms of office, congratulations mr. myroslav, good evening, congratulations, vitaliy, and let's try to understand what the situation looks like now... border , well, it looks bad, because the blocking continues,
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the queue, from the information that comes in, the queue is 2,800 trucks, well, that’s a lot, positive information is coming such that a group, a bilateral group of both the ministries of infrastructure of ukraine and poland talked in on friday and agreed on several points, firstly, that the points on two checkpoints will not be closed or blocked, well, they will be closed, and on the third. therefore , trucks returning empty from the territory of ukraine are allowed to cross the checkpoint without queuing. and this is one of the first, one, these two points, the first agreements that took place on friday, tomorrow, that is, on monday,
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a meeting of the european council on transport issues will be held in brussels, at which the situations are to be discussed. with cancellation licenses for ukrainian carriers on the territory of the entire european european union, i think that the decision, judging by the statements of the european commission representatives, will be correct or necessary for ukraine, that is , it will not be canceled, there will be no refusal to cancel the license, it may create some working group for study.. . this problem, and then we will, the situation will be clear from a legal point of view, that there are no grounds for blocking the ukrainian-polish border, they do not exist, this will be emphasized if the blocking continues, that this is exclusively a political action, not an economic one, and it was not clear before
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that in principle there are no legal grounds for such actions, well, legal ones, of course, it was clear from the very beginning. that this is a political action that, well, it is happening, it is not happening , it still needs to be proven, because the representatives of the polish confederation are saying, give evidence that the russians are behind it, uh, well, the evidence is in moscow or those who accepts instructions from moscow, this is understandable, because such talk, on the other hand, it is obvious that this protest is not in the interests of ukraine. and it is not in the interests of poland, as polish exports to ukraine have increased by 25% over the past three quarters, and here the border has been blocked for a month, the damage is being done to the polish economy , and there are very few protestors, besides that, you know, there was an absolute scandal there ,
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i.e., some unknown persons, impostors assumed the functions of the state. control, i.e. the police, and border guards, and the road inspection, they review, check, and what is in those, in these vans, and it came to an absolute disaster, because they said that they let military personnel, military transports , military cargo pass through, well, first of all, who gave you the right to check military cargo, well, this is in general, some pure absurdity, and secondly, well, with a boat that was made from a boat that went on... with american assistance to the armed forces of ukraine, they made a yacht, a private, sort of yacht, and the members of the confederation began to spread information, you see, such ukrainians are rich, the ukrainian mafia and so on, well, we know this all, it's about the same as when there was a grain crisis, a grain conflict, and to this day many ukrainians say that
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these are poor polish farmers who were robbed by ukrainian agro-traders. no, you just know, with grain, then i will tell you, because it concerned me personally, if, in what sense, personally, because i crossed these borders, and when one of the representatives, well, of the future ruling party, the former vice-premier the polish minister says how the ukrainians carry honey in buckets, but it was impossible to transport candies across the ukrainian border, and that three annual productions of honey in poland arrived in poland, it was absolutely. lies, then in the summer a scandal appeared again, hype was raised, and why, these pods are not strawberries, but raspberries, it seems that the raspberries come from ukraine frozen and flood the market, it turned out, no, a conspiracy of polish wholesalers or wholesalers, as they say in the west in ukraine, wholesale distributors, who paid a pittance to the producers
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of those who, well, to the farmers who grow raspberries, instead sold nine times the road at nine times more expensive prices on the markets, and people then were outraged that such high prices were so high, and again these wholesalers, well wholesalers, the owners of wholesale warehouses said that everything was to blame, imports from ukraine were to blame for this, and that it was an absolute lie, because there was no import, that is, you know, this is a repetition of such, well, blatantly false, fake news, while this anti-ukrainian propaganda... is simply so outrageous for me that it requires i don't know what measures of a more systematic nature to catch such fakes pointing to their authors and simply bring them to justice, because it cannot be that way that the country is at war, the country is helped, and aid to this belligerent country
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is blocked under any pretext or without any pretext in the interests of russia alone. and tell me why the polish ministry of infrastructure has just now turned to the mechanism of consultations with ukraine, to find some compromise solutions, in principle this could have been done during the actions of the previous government of matyos moravietsi, as far as i understand, this is already a new composition of the government, which has been working for several days, took up this problem, why didn't the old man, who had been on the ground for a few days, take care of it years in a row? well, here we need to move on to the internal situation in poland, the victory in the elections was won by the opposition, which should have quickly formed a new government, but the dog, paying attention to its own interests, political and not only political, decided to continue the process of forming a new government, stretching it to up to two months , and these carriers wanted it, as well as part of those
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polish carriers, but let 's wait for tusk's government, in general , we will continue the protest until february, well, it was just pure bullying, and then we have to said to pay tribute personally to pavel koval, who came to ukraine, he met with high-ranking officials, well , with the leadership of the country, i apologize, with president zelenskyi, with the speaker of the parliament mr. ruslan, stefanchuk, with the minister of infrastructure kurbakov, met with the minister of foreign affairs, presented his vision for this position, he also met with the deputy from the opposition, mykola knyazhytskyi, who is the co-chairman of the ukrainian-polish parliamentary group and as a result of this trip of pavlo koval in the diet for the first time, a challenge discussion took place , that is, the deputies summoned the minister
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of infrastructure and equality to the diet to say report, and what are you doing, and then they were already forced to take some, at least some semblance of some measures, in order not to look like that in general they do nothing, and the process slowly began. to move from one's place is one thing, and the second is the tough position of the european commission, it must be said that the european commission said that there are absolutely no grounds for protest, and what is happening at the border is an absolute it's a shame, but i would like to draw attention to another aspect of this case, because near rryashev, rzeszevo is the main airfield through which military aid is supplied to ukraine, and in this military... cargoes exist, get information about what cargoes, how , as far as they are, whether their number is increasing or decreasing, this was always a dream
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of russian, russian intelligence, they organized special networks of refugees, we must say, young refugees from ukraine, even thought of such a move, and here they got unlimited access with the help of people from the pro-russian and openly pro-russian confederation to those loads, so that it was possible to receive information on facebook, on instagram, on other social networks, photos and so on, reported, this is a scandal, and here is a question yes, i have already put it openly and i put it to you, mr. vitaly, what is the behavior of the special services , both polish and ukrainian, but also nato american, because it is no secret that it seems that this airfield is guarded by american troops, but there with they met, at least president biden, the fact that the territory between zhershev and the ukrainian
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border is a no-man's field, it's a wild field, whoever wants to do it there, and there are protests, blockades and so on on this autobahn, well, it's just not me i can imagine this situation, here we have an example from finland, where the finns...' quickly coped with the russians' attempt to create a crisis, to create an artificial crisis with migrants, instead , ukrainian imports to and exports from ukraine have been blocked here for a month, including military appointment and no reaction, well, it’s me in general, i’m worried, as a citizen of poland, a former politician, as a former deputy, i’m a working journalist, for me this is simply a matter that does not lend itself to any explanation, there is simply no explanation, but tell me please, mr. myroslav , how will the situation change at all, if in the new
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government, which was before the opposition, there are also people who essentially support these protests, as you have already noted, and i will tell you that with their support for the protests, they became extremely careful, with attention to and and not they are expressing the kind of support that could be expected, well, for example , the farmers' protest, it's the corn producers who suffered as a result, well, they suffered, but they received an adequate income from the attention to... from the reduction of prices on the world markets, these prices have fallen, it seems by 60%, because the harvest was to the north, as if in both americas, and instead , how to get subsidies, well, go out and block ukraine, the border with ukraine, when there is an embargo on the import of corn from the territory of ukraine, why go to the ukrainian border and say, that ukraine is bothering you, well, it's just that
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absurd, you know, that's it, i don't know how to say it, but thank god, answering your question, what happened to those deputies, i also think the position of the leaders of the new coalition, the ruling coalition, who want not to aggravate relations with ukraine , on the contrary, they want good-neighborly relations and it is necessary to restore cooperation and help restore aid to ukraine, from the side of poland, but this crisis with... the blocking of the ukrainian border, it should be resolved this week, i consider all the prerequisites for it to end as soon as possible, every day , every day is a loss and the deaths of ukrainian soldiers who do not receive drones and other weapons is simply a flagrant, flagrant violation of any norms, and please tell me what you, what do you hope for in terms of changing the polish-ukrainian dialogue, literally
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in a week, how will the history of polish-ukrainian relations change, there is an impression that they will really change qualitatively, or are all the fathers, i would say economic troubles, they will be given as signs in any case? no, you know, when normality returns, that is, when any problem arises, then they sit down at the table, negotiate and solve it during the negotiations, maybe all the problems. can be resolved, this is not a matter of unsustainability, since with grain, for example, the ukrainian side has stated that it is ready to implement some quotas or licenses, licenses are issued for the export of grain to the region, to neighboring countries, if such problems arise in their market, then ukraine will not issue these licenses, there is such a way, if ukraine has made such decisions, i think that this is to meet everyone, all the neighbors and all
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the concerns of their farm. i.e. there are no problems with carriers here, i think everything can be solved in the same way and the issue can simply be removed from one day to the next and all the problems, that is, the authorities in new poland are unequivocally focused on constructiveness and these are policies that ukraine knows very well. who know ukraine very well, tusk, donald tusk convened a special meeting before the elections, when...' peace went to such aggravations of the anti-ukrainian course, he said, presented four points of his own program, and there, in the first place, it was the restoration of military aid to ukraine, secondly , the continuation of aid to ukrainian refugees, assistance to ukraine in nato membership and in the european union, and we understand that this membership in the european union means talks about ukraine's entry into
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the market after ... the end of the war, there will also be transitional periods, there will be different withdrawals, but it will be a substantive economic conversation, i love such conversations, because it already happens under normal rules and rules are introduced, that is, there is no such situation where there are battles without truth, that is, situations in which you do not understand what is happening and how it is happening, and you clearly understand that this is not the interest of ukraine or poland, it is only the interest of russia. thank you, mr. myroslav, myroslav cech, polish politician , mp . to consider the issue that ukraine should receive the right to start negotiations on accession to eu, and we will now discuss it with dmytro tozhansky, director of the institute of central
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