this is already a trend for kolos , and if we talk about, well, let's say this, the brightness of the match, then the matches, the home matches of kolos, look the most sad, but now dynamo-kyiv matches are starting to look more fun for dynamo fans, because the arrival of shovkovsky, i don't know if it's magic or what, because they played against the offense, against the movement, teams that showed themselves quite well in the championship, but such victories ... you know, on the mistakes of the opponent, twice 2-0 and, let's say, special nerves there was no one there, you know, reduced the score and dynamo was already worried, well, i will tell you more, at the same time we also have to take into account the personnel losses of kyiv dynamo, they are playing now far from being the basis, well, even if we are just talking about yarmolenko , he is still not there, and there are always holes in the defense, which, well , it would seem that there are nominal holes, because the leading football players miss, but...

in fact, the two matches that we see under shevkovsiy, the dynamo is completely different from there for the last couple of years under the rule of mircea lucescu, once again the ease that appeared when lucescu was sick, when he played with shekvovskiy and also now kyiv dynamo has become so easy to play, it is very nice to watch dynamo play now, how much of an emotional factor is here, how much this charge will continue, well, i think that until the end of the first one, i don’t know for sure, playing at exactly this pace and with such a set of points , they are actually calmly collecting points, and from such teams, i think that with lucescu, i would suffer and kryvbas would hardly move would they let him go, and shovkovskyi takes it calmly and wins, and with a difference of two goals, then scores points, scores points for himself, because these are all reasons to leave shovkovskyi as the head coach now, also taking into account the economic crisis there at the investors of kyiv dynamo, i think we can already assume that oleksand.

shavkovskyi will remain the head coach of dynamo kyiv until the end of the season, at least, but you are right when you say that, in addition to yarmolenko, such a key player as mykola shaparenko is also not in shape and does not play, but but kabaev opened up, because it took several dozen matches for the attacking player vladyslav kabaev to score a goal and he scored such a parodic, good goal, yes kabaev, after all, he did not break down here either, which, let's say, i didn't see much of him in luchesku's lineup , even he did not always make it into the rotation , so, well, you see, what left him in dynamo, unlike antyukha, for example, antyukha was given away calmly at dawn, even forgotten, then kobaev was not given away, both footballers who, if they had come to kyiv dynamo, without the dynamo school, that is, antyukh was from kolas, kabaev are from the stars, but kabaev was still left in the club, it was important, he did not break down, actually came out, scored a very important goal and now he may even return again, well, if not in the base, then under the base, yes exactly, and you see we are...

i admired boyalskyi's performance, what he gives, he scores a goal, here shavkovsky lowered him a little lower and shepilov performs these functions more pressingly, and the result is better, the result of the team, i mean , well , you see, shavkovsky has his own vision, and so on in a whisper , khatskevich used it in a similar way, it was also very effective, so again, maybe these minimal changes bring the maximum benefit for dynamo, let's show once again, the matches that have already ended, the matches that are waiting, because here it is in about an hour there will be a match between dynamo and dynamo, there was a lot of talk that bad weather is passing in uzhhorod, the match may not take place, well, we will find out in about half an hour, when the inspector will confirm exactly what will happen, so dynamo, dynamo, dynamo is waiting for us, chornomorets lnz, shakhtar metalist 1925, and zarya rukh will play on monday, again, we expect all these matches, because the intrigue at all poles of the tournament table is interesting and that

the teams want to go to the winter break in the best mood and victories in these matches will be well to fight, fight for contracts , for premiums, for some good vacations, a good mood, and we can definitely talk about a good mood for the ukrainian national team, because there was an additional motivation to go through the playoffs, this is me with the bosnians, icelanders, israel, the national team can get into the group, with which sin will not come out easily. well, again, you could potentially say that we were lucky, both with the play-off draw and with the group, in fact, and belgium now, it's a star generation, already retired, slovakia and romania are definitely the teams where we will have to be favorites, given our squad is today, our power and our potential, so the most important thing here is now to go through the playoffs, well, again, this playoff with this bosnia there, whoever is in iceland or israel, these are both national teams that will be on. .. wait, they are definitely not stronger either,

is much weaker than our national team, that's why we have to go to the euro, well, then again, you leave the group, well, here we are showing the way again, which will be... on march 21 and 26, we play away from bosnia and herzegovina, next with the winner of the pair israel, iceland, and it inspires optimism that now in the national team again this week proves that the national team is in shape, even those candidates, malinovskyi, we are watching the match of genoa empoli, malinovskyi scores his next goal, viktor kovalenko is substituted, gives an assist, so again viktor declares that perhaps it is worth considering his candidate for the national team again. undoubtedly, viktor kovalenka is getting in very good shape at the moment, that is, only because of the injury he basically disappeared from the radar somewhere, but in fact, by all skills and qualities, he is suitable for the national team, and malinovsky proves that if rebrov released him there at the last second, and at least a couple of minutes before the end of the match,

they could easily beat italy and italy would already be waiting for the playoffs. similarly , traditionally, we follow the premier league with interest, where yehor yarmalyuk is at the start again, winning again. zinchenko gives, the truth is wrong, mykolenko, well, he plays well, apl, about apl, a few words. well, you know, after all, the premier league is currently under a special angle, we are watching , because all the footballers are now ours, the national teams are represented in the strongest league in the world, the club, so now the premier league is second after, after our upl tournament, behind the intrigue, according to our interest, according to ours. interests, so now it's just a question for the wise man, let's see if today mudryk will play or not against his football father, precisely that's what he calls a dead derby, but today will be a very interesting duel, if the wise man turns out against the former mentor of the donetsk miner. now mudryk is still attracting the attention of the tabloids,

because they attribute to him, i don't know, whether it's a novel or an affair, but with a russian blogger, and let's just say, the fans are very unhappy with this union. mudrykivskyi, the union will target yaral, well, let's see, right away, you know , after all, maybe she is even now, what is missing is to reveal herself, because modryk was coming here with a fatigue, it was considered, well, the level is there the world's top-five attacking football players, he is currently in the pit, maybe it is this roman that is preventing him from becoming the number one star there, well, if not one, then at least the top-three in the world. of european football , is definitely in the top three of girona in the spanish championship, where dovbyk recovered, came out, although they say that he did not play so brightly in the match, but the fans note that there is a breed of this forward and there is, even though he scored there, the truth was canceled because of offside, and tsygankov is fine again, it's good that the guys

they come and make such an average player of the spanish championship the leader, well, we celebrate the character, on the character, they won the victory at will, they lost to valencia and won with a score of 2:1. in fact, zheron now has a very strong team, the most team play, the most structural game, and which michel won thanks to our football players, because it is the leaders tsyankov and dovbyk who actually make the result. well, yes, roman yaremchuk also came out, for the first time, maybe in the last month he got more or less good press, because they say, he tried, well done, but we wish roman the best, we expect that roman will return to his pre-war statistical indicators, well, we will come back to you in a week, where we will tell you about the championship of ukraine , how did dynamo recover, because dynamo will have a match with minay , then a postponed match, who will be the leader in a week, this is also an intrigue, because the teams are very close and each match there can make a team move from the first to the third, or vice versa. so

, andriy malinovskyi, i, oleksandr vashchuk, were with you. football format team, cheer for yours, see you soon. greetings, friends, the saturday political club program on the espresso tv channel, khrystyna yatskiv and vitaly portnikov, is on the air. as usual , for the next two hours we will talk about the main events of the current week. the focus of our attention is the situation at the front, the russian-ukrainian war, the situation in the international arena, and the middle east, this is a must, well, the second half of our program is a conversation yes, a conversation and reflections of vitaly portnikov, we will start with the situation at the front , roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, colonel of the security service of ukraine, is in touch with us. mr. roman, glory to ukraine, congratulations, good

day geran, glory, mr. roman, let's start, i congratulate you, let's start with maryinka, after all, what is happening, well, the situation there is difficult, i think everyone is used to it. .. theses and it is now real so in general the east is now the hottest point for us regarding where the enemy has concentrated his forces there for the last time, they were talking there for a week, but a little longer, our, well, the enemy has quite seriously moved our troops away from us, i recently literally talked to people who are there, and the situation there is that the enemy is constantly practically every day now, using assaults, a lot of equipment and fpv drones, and the number of fpv drones, unfortunately, outweighs the number of fpv drones that we have. we deter all assaults at the expense of drones, but the enemy can afford them, as they say, there are 30 of them,

40 pieces each, just to the position, ours, uh, i see where our position is, and just monotonously keep going there, until our defenders are no longer left without shelter and forced to withdraw, and in this way the enemy has already pushed through almost the entire maryanka, forcing us, well, to dry objectively, that is why the situation there is difficult, along with avdiivka, the same with maryanka, in general, avdiivka, maryanka, i think, this, i liked the phrase spoken by the commander-in-chief, muzhenko, for russia, these cities are symbols, which are quite promotional, including in society, they, they have recognizable names, strategically they have no significance there, but for the russians they are important, so they throw very big ones there. resources, they are suffering great losses there , but they are still trying to push these

cities to report that they have taken them, but we say it ourselves, maryanka, i think that i was there probably a month ago and what was left there it is difficult to call it a maryanka, this is a city, a place where a maryanka once was, mr. roman, we understand that in a military sense our settlements can mean completely different things. when we talk about bakhmut as a settlement and about bakhmut federal district, two different things, when we talk about avdiivka settlement and avdiivka federal district, well, it actually coincides, and that is why there is, there is a certain drama in the prospects, for example, for example, the abandonment by our defense forces territory of avdiyivka, some of the military analysts say, the situation there is quite difficult, but the defense forces have become. to this day, they allegedly even resort to counterattacks and repulse

positions previously occupied by the enemy. how do you see this situation? well, if we are talking about again, the most important thing that i see now is really ours, well, a day ago, talking to the defenders of avdiyivka, they told me yes, now the situation has been stabilized, but you are still the enemy. they have already occupied, let's say, some key settlements there, the steppe, including this one, these ticks, they are with each, well, let's say, period of time, everything narrows, narrows, if we do not take measures now, then we will have to take decision, and this is a fact, and i say it once again, of some strategic importance, well, objectively on the maps, there is no avdiyivka, you and i are talking about the military, of course, this is our land and our people , and here it is a different issue, but we are now talking

about the war and combat operations, and the main thing is that it should be like on bakhmut, when we left and we retreated to better positions, to the heights, and we see that after the enemy took bakhmut, they practically did not advance further, and we also had the opportunity, we won back some, let's say, some territories, further north, in that further south, including... bakhmut, the same here, the main thing is that there are positions, let's say , we cannot brag about the opening of positions and the line of defense up to this time, here we need to learn, learn , no matter how it sounds, the enemy is ugly, but they know how to build positions, they know how to defend the occupied territories, unfortunately for us this is the problem and it needs to be done, not like it was there, well, at least today, of course, we lost a lot of time, but it is necessary... to do, if the defense system will be built correctly, even if we have to be under pressure enemy to get out of

avdiivka, no big deal, that kind of thing global in military terms will not happen, if we miss it there and do not complete it, there may be serious consequences, and by the way about the fortifications, maybe we did not build them because there was such a stereotype that we have to liberate our territories from the enemy, and that we are an army on the offensive, that there cannot be any... fortifications on ukrainian territories between one part of the donetsk region and another, and this is rather not even a lack of any military training, but an absolutely stereotypical political thinking, not a desire to look at reality, including, including, i think, everyone thought that some kind of new war was going on, that defensive positions, they do not matter, but we see what happened in zaporizhzhia in that er, number, direction, when the enemy , uh, simply due to their positions, the

ones they dug, during the period while we were accumulating forces and means, the enemy was building his line, as they called it, provikina, and this is the line that we broke their teeth and couldn't pass it, it's a fact, and it's a fact that there was nothing there that was nothing was not during the first world war, so the enemy did not introduce any technology there , he simply built defensive positions, which we , with the modern leopards, t-72 tanks, and some means of demining, could not pass, because once again in this war , which was imposed on us, the way russia went , it matters, it makes sense, we know that what are the main ee - the main tasks of defense, eh, who knows, there is such an abbreviation there, first, repel the enemy's attack , inflict

maximum, maximum losses on him, hold positions, this is what... we need time now to build a defense, and the fourth is to create conditions for a further offensive, but in order to hold positions, defense lines are needed, and when these defense lines are there, we hold positions, we are knocking down the offensive potential of the enemy, what should we do, the conditions are now being created in the rear for a further offensive, we need to do this, and i probably said it several months ago when i described the counteroffensive. all , including that there are various counterattacks, including unsuccessful ones, because we have many thought that a counteroffensive is equal to victory, everything and somehow they did not perceive it differently, because now the main task is to protect what we already have, which we did not allow to be captured by the enemy, to completely secure it , to build positions, so that the enemy

gnashes his teeth against him, and then go on counterattacks from this and that resource. which we have additional to use to win back our territories, because now we and the counteroffensive, let's say, ours stopped, and we looked, and there are no fortifications, we need to build, and now this situation, it really complex, i hope we can get it sorted in time mr. roman, just a quick clarification, do you think the counteroffensive has really stopped given the situation on the left bank... it still continues to develop, again we don't know what it is all about will end, but less so the actions of the defense forces continue there , well, simply, what do we mean, well, what were the tasks of the counterattack, the tasks of the counterattack were strategic, it was to go to the sea of ​​azov, we cut through bresh 10 km, on the maps of those who

bet such tasks, counterattack, if if you look at their maps, this front line is not even visible, and these shifts are not even visible, therefore... we are talking strategically or tactically, active actions are taking place at the tactical level, but if we are talking strategically about a counteroffensive, then i want to tell you , i don’t know, everyone should see it, but many are surprised when i say that we have a positional war since november 11, 2022, but it is already positional, strategic, we have a position, what zaluzhny wrote recently, we have had it for a year, he just described it because there was hope that we eh we will advance somewhere, but we have had a positional war for a year, and at the moment it can either continue, or the enemy can advance us, if we don't, we will take action, because resourcefully he is still stronger, so we have to do everything in order to to fortify our territories, and accept it as a fact , we have been in a positional war for a year, we tried, but it didn’t work out, there is no one to blame,

we have an enemy against us who outnumbers us several times, we don’t have air support, we don’t have ... long-range missiles, that is, it is possible here to list a lot on one's fingers, therefore , before giving forecasts there crimea in may , two or three weeks are needed there, well, i think, who do not understand the issues of military strategy in particular. listen, mr. roman, but i remember that in that text of generals zaluzhny and zabrodsky, which i think was published just then, don't you remember exactly, about a year ago, in the fall, it was basically created there position picture. and it was said that it was a long positional war, well, i mean, that was exactly the military text, it wasn't about, it was just such a specific text was written by two generals as a proposal, they even showed the possible actions of the enemy, you are right, you say that there are some, they planned that the enemy could one part from the north, yes one group, should go, and

one from the south and they were supposed to drive such, say, a wedge into our defense and, well , they were supposed to do coverage, pincers, yes, they described it, everyone has already forgotten this article, but, well, they described possible actions, including that, but then all this was lost and went away , off topic, huh. uh counteroffensive, and well, the enemy already really knew about it, knew in which direction, because this is the only direction that gave us, in case of success, gave us strategic advantages, it was possible to go in the donetsk direction, because there are less mines there, of course , but success there did not give such strategic advantages, look, now you can say anything for anything, we went where we went and we have to admit that we ... the counteroffensive failed and for almost a year we are in a positional war, but for to be in a positional war, you need to have good positions ugh. mr. roman

, i can't help but ask, russian president vladimir putin signed a decree to increase the number of personnel of the armed forces of the russian federation to 2,200 thousand, while 132,000 of this number will be directly military for 170,000, well, i don't know, is that a lot? could you please decipher for us, in addition, putin actually agreed to increase the budget for the war with ukraine for the russian army, this is how their economy will work in the near future, and what are we doing, uh, well look, we have mobilization, so we have an unlimited number of troops, we can demobilize as much as we like. according to the plans of the ministry of defense and the armed forces, we can mobilize for this, yes , the number of domestic russians was smaller,

they increased it there for the first time a year ago by 100 or something thousand, what is going on, there is a planned increase of troops in them, they are now deploying , they return to them, well , who remembers from our tv viewers that they had such a military leningrad the district, which regrettably hid from finland, then it was disbanded, there were separate parts, now they are returning this district and first they create it on the basis of already ready parts, and then they will form its parts, for this you need, well, separate parts, so that they were of this leningrad military district, in order for it to protect from finland, which is a member of nato, further. they are creating the 104th airborne division, which is already partially assembled there at the base, i don't remember which separate airborne brigade, they and it

there are already a lot of them in the south, now here in the kherson region and they transferred them, because they don’t have enough, er, then a couple of brigades of marine divisions of the marines, that is, the question is, they are increasing their ee armed forces, transferring them to the divisional system, i i understand that for the plans they need , in order to form them, they need an increase in the armed forces, an increase in the armed forces, just like in our country, it is approved by the verkhovna rada, in our case, in them it is the state duma, that's why they go in this way in order to it was possible to form a regular army separately, and then, when necessary, finish it mobilized, thank you, thank you mr. roman, roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national defense security. and intelligence colonel of the security services of ukraine, and we will break now for a few minutes, but you stay with us and there will be more interesting discussions, we promise. during sports

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we continue the saturday polyclub program on the tv channel khrystyna yatskiv and vitaly portnikov, actually we will talk in this part of our conversation about the ukraine nato council, this meeting took place at the level of foreign ministers, literally on november 29, some call it an absolutely historic event, well, i don’t know, now let's talk with the summary of the meeting must be said, yes, today we will meet with the ministers for the first time

in rivne. said dmytro kuleba, head of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, noting the difference between the former ukraine-nato commission and the new council. in the council , ukraine has the same rights as members of the north atlantic alliance and the same opportunities for consultations. short summaries that i made in particular from this event. well, first of all, the support of ukraine on the way to nato, that is, the reform program described for us, for our full operational interoperability with nato, is being finalized, prepared, and allegedly right now, we are even talking about the absence of any political demands for us, although when we talk about the north atlantic alliance, it is important not to forget that it is a political and military alliance, precisely in this version, it is a union, and definitely , all representatives of our partner countries agreed

to continue helping our country. as far as possible, there were several important statements about quite significant and ample financial assistance to us, in particular from germany, from the netherlands, and this is only what i remember now from memory. they promise not to let everyone get tired of ukraine and not to get tired themselves. i don't know how well our colleagues will succeed, but, mr. vitaly, the council, the commission, let's talk about it with pavlo klimkin, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019, yes, there are already us. communication, mr. pavle, congratulations , but there is not yet, well, in any case, i hope that he will appear now and we will talk about it, in any case, it is clear that the commission is the commission, the integration of the integration , the commission should be only the first step towards integration, i will tell you honestly, and any commissions that are created, they do not replace the guarantee of security, this is an interesting form

when ukraine appeals to nato member countries, when it does everything possible to be heard, it can convene such a meeting, but the obligations of nato members in front of ukraine there is none, and here is what we need to think about when we hold such meetings, of course, we must say that we did not really want them, remember that the majority of our citizens before the attack of ukraine, not russia, on ukraine, were generally opponents of the ukrainian accession to nato, and considered by the way, many of them, like henry keysanger, that this will lead to an attack by russia, well, ukraine did not even join nato, and waited for the attack, that's all two in one, but i remember the year 1997, that's when ukraine signed this act, ugh, nato of ukraine, mr. pavle, you remember 1997, pavlo klimkin is already with us, we congratulate you, signing everyone hello, friends, congratulations, ms. khrystyna, ms.

vitali, of course, of course i remember. you were in modrid.