i am sure he has many opportunities in china to show that he is ready, but more than in our country, we don't know if they did not transfer before that, i don't know, but i think they did, if you want to know my point of view, they transferred they can increase this story, but again for revenge, or they did it anyway, because i'm going down the wrong path again, let's not do something, because they will take revenge on us, i'm not saying that, i'm just saying, that then i think we should consider it as something that our government has clearly taken course for confrontation with china, if you are, we may not be able to see the appearance of a representative office of taipei in kyiv. if it is not so , if by themselves, they are not doing each other with one hand, they do not understand what they are doing, then nothing will happen, that's all, that is , there will be unexpected consequences and everything, ugh, well, look, this may indicate recognition and in general the understanding of today's realities, something very similar to... occurs in the head,

in particular, of president zelensky, who says, i, we recognize a counteroffensive there, there are problems, not everything is as it should be, it happened as expected, there are other moments, which are recognized, for example, fortifications , things that should be planned, just go regularly for two years and even earlier, now for some reason it is very actively articulated, can we say that now the leadership of our country, military and aviation... political the leadership of our country has come to realize the new realities in which ukraine lives, not the borders of 1991, not the complete liberation of our territory by the end of some summer there, and so on, but simply at least effective defense against the russian federation, well, and an understanding of the realities of international arena, based on what you said about bama china. i believe that in principle, reality is such a thing that we always meet at some point, it's always a question of when? everyone is not dependent on their understanding

of the situation of competence, professionalism, this is a vivid example of meeting reality, this is february 24, 2022, until the polls hit like this, i still meet many people who said, we didn't even think that such a thing could happen to be, but why, well, everyone already told you, you just shouted, you blew all the loudspeakers, but no, well, it’s so simple, why is it it can't be, it can't be, because i don't want it to be, ugh. then i want it to be like that, but by the way, about reality, we always said, we had one thing, such a clear program of actions, we are going to the borders of 1991, and russia is falling apart, and why did it decide that way, it is true, i have always said, i am not a military expert, i cannot say whether we can go to the border in 1991 or not, maybe we can, this is a question for the army, not for me, but you decide that

the consequence of this will be the collapse of russia, that in your opinion, what should the russians do at this moment, what should they do on the streets, in connection with which they lost crimea, and why did they not go on the streets until 2014, did not shout putin, the army, why crimea is ukrainian, why 99% of ukrainians and russians were not interested in the existence of crimea, they didn't even go here on vacation, but went there and spat, why, and then suddenly, oh god , what a pearl, nadia, oh my god, oh, what a sea, what a sun, oh , they will go to sochi, they will forget that they were there, ugh, there is no beach, only stones, generally mud, that’s me, i would say peculiarities of russian consciousness, i.e. putin says, he is losing crimea through military means. and they all go out and

, dismiss putin, at this moment the offended tatars with chechens and buryats say, oh, if you cannot occupy part of the territory of ukraine, we will separate from you, and the russians say, well, well, what the hell , if we are such weaklings, then let's separate, well, that is , i don't want to be ironic, i'm just not connected with the other, there can be any social and political processes in russia that can lead to defragmentation statehood, whatever, but it has nothing to do with the russian-ukrainian war, it could be during the russian-ukrainian war, it could be 40 years after the russian-ukrainian war, due to completely different circumstances, but we i wanted it to be a reaction, you know, like this chain process, so that one thing flows from another, now we understand that this is not the case, that we are living in a war of attrition, that russia has enough strength to make this... it takes a long time

to wear it, it also wears out, that's clear, but it just can't wear out so quickly, as we exhaust ourselves, on the other hand, we have the help of civilized education, if it continues, we will not exhaust ourselves either, but we will live like this, yes. to live, adapting to such a life, well, the government is also adapting little by little, especially since it is difficult for it, it has spun this mechanism of people's expectations to the maximum, i never understood why, i generally looked at all this, all this time, at it is with wide-open eyes, why do we talk about an offensive, why do we formulate that our victory will be geographical, although, when we we need a political victory, the preservation of statehood and the nation, right? people do not understand that the very fact of the existence of ukraine as an independent state and the survival of the ukrainian nation is already a political miracle, but i will tell you why people perceived reality like that, i can explain, because most people, especially those people who live or

were born in regions of ukraine close to russia, in the east and south, mentally, even subconsciously. felt in the soviet union, well, in the soviet union not from the point of view of the scoop, but understand me correctly, but from from the point of view of security, they grew up in the soviet union and passed this sense of security on to their children, who were already children there, when you lived in the soviet union, you knew for sure that no one would attack you, no matter what they told you there television because you live in a huge nuclear country. which won the second world war, and it can climb somewhere there by itself , but no one will climb on it, because it is scary, because nuclear weapons, because, well, clearly, and people lived with this throughout the post-war period, this is the result, if

you like, may 9, 1945, not eight, 9th, i will say clearly, and this is on a subconscious level, independent of political views, you could hate... the union, but know that you may be in danger from the kgb, and not from an external enemy, that there is no external enemy, physically , that all these conversations, the west will destroy us, it's all just for the sake of party meetings, and there is no reality of this , and even those who go to the stands know that nothing threatens us, we can be dissidents, we will then be put in prison and they will kill their countrymen, but no one from the west, neither those who kill us, nor ourselves. then it fell apart, the consciousness remained, and when we were attacked , really, because i think for many, the year 14 was so meaningless, if it wasn't that it didn't mean anything, so wild,

well this is the continuation of the political confrontation with russia, not a war, but this, i would say, some kind of luck, well, maybe something like that, but, i don't know how to say. even when, which sooner or later will somehow be resolved, some agreements, some special status, you just need to stop shooting, it doesn't matter, it's because they steal, they want to steal from this war, and when the real war began, many people had the impression that they attacked the soviet union, you see, so nothing terrible can happen, it will all be over in a few weeks, as a famous figure of all times and people said himself from there, and he, i think, that's why he said that he was from there, if the soviet union was attacked, then two or three weeks, and the trick is that it was

the soviet union that attacked, we are not the soviet union, we are a small, poor country between the soviet union and europe, the soviet union... it is they, they stayed with them, so they have this, this sense of security is justified, because they are a nuclear state and we tell them, oh, we will crush you, we will drive you out, but only on our territory, and the west says: no, no, no , we do not want the population of russia to experience suffering and war, no, no, no, as he always said about the soviet union, no, no, please drive them out, you them, please this destroy the army, but only on your territory, then there. no no no no no no no no, they fired, it's not exactly, it's american they are condemning, we are not for this, no, no , here is a feeling of security for you, because these are people who live in russia, this is security, damn it, and people live in belarus, lukashenka is under the russian nuclear

nuclear umbrella, this is security, and the poles live under the american nuclear umbrella, this is security, but we are not, because we do not have any umbrella of this... there is no such thing, we do not want to be with russia, because it wants to destroy us, and we are not accepted in the west, that is what we have situation, but you need to understand it, ugh, stop saying in your head that we are the soviet union, say. so industrious, a small soviet army will never defeat a large one, therefore we do not need a small soviet army, we need an efficient european one, we need nato, we need security guarantees, everything is simple, if we still think that we are somehow there, we are not there, we are with this is what we are fighting with, ugh , this is what they always said, they can fight for a long time, they don’t count people, they can throw corpses around for years, they have zero value on human life, we have always said this about us, with us, with us , we won the second world war, because our leaders were ready

to lay down millions of people and absolutely did not count them, they did not count them so much that even after the war they were not counted, they always called different numbers, absolutely 10 million, 15, 20, 25, what a difference, women give birth to new ones , что такое 25 million, when it comes to victory in the war, well, that's all, and that's it... this is a psychological problem, that, and now take the people who lived here all the time, who went to moscow all the time, who held festive concerts there, which were part of this space of civilization, it's not even that not some kind of remark, they were just among these people who had this natural feeling. security, and they thought that they are time, they

are the same, but they are not the same, because this border, it has passed, and now the question is very simple, that we need this border, which is the border of the west, just on to stretch ourselves, and then we will no longer think that we are the soviet union, because we already understand that we are not, little by little, uh, in two or three, two or three weeks we understood it, in two or three months we understood it, we can see... we will understand in two or three years, ugh, and now we we need to become part of nato, and our children and grandchildren may have a new sense of security, a new sense of security, not because it was may 9, but because we are part of the north atlantic alliance, because it was may 8, that's how it should be just change 9 yamai to may 8, but may 8 is the result, nato is the result of may 8, and the soviet union and everything else is the result of where. so now we are somewhere between may 8 and may 9, in between,

we are stuck, in the meantime, may 9 has ended, and the eighth has not yet come, and we now have forever february 24 on the calendar, 24 february, we live in it, we need it to live until may 8 and stay in it. no, it's better, believe me, as a person born in may, in february, it's terrible, cold, motor, in may, chestnuts bloom , the sun is warm, pleasant, and on may 9 it rains, always, well, almost always until, always it's raining on may 9, there's no need to let the russians move, you talked about the border here, by the way, the western border, which needs to be pulled over you like a blanket, let's move on. takes place on the western border, i see you every saturday

to the political club regarding your opinion regarding the development of the situation with blockades, you just want to quarrel with me and the polish people , no, i don't want to, and haven't you already quarreled after everything you said in relation to the polish government, not the people, i and the polish government have never was on good terms, by that i mean, because i think that this government is lying, the honor of the polish people, well let's talk about the development of the situation, donald tusk, a man who is one of the most authoritative politicians in europe, a man who can form the polish government in the near future, and in general, we understand that he is aware of the importance of ukraine as its neighbor, as part of european civilization, as part of eastern europe, in general, he believes that the polish government cynically plays the card of ukraine, well here - my bravo, that 's the way it is, they could do whatever they wanted if, in principle... they thought about solving this issue, and not about their immediate political interests, here is the minister of foreign affairs of poland , this one, who

was appointed for two weeks, well, there is a new minister of foreign affairs, you know, in this government of morawiecki, the new minister of foreign affairs, the former minister of european affairs, he did not go to north macedonia, nothing, he clearly behaved as the minister of foreign affairs in poland should behave in general, and who prevents the prime minister from behaving like the prime minister, the minister of infrastructure there, from behaving like the minister of infrastructure, one should not think that people at this level do not have the ability to solve issues, they have them, huh , if they don't want to use your opportunity as it was. during the farming story , as it happens now during the actions of the carriers , it is a completely different story, that is, when you do not try to solve it, you help the conflict, it is obvious that you know, the minister of foreign affairs of poland took a beautiful step

in support of ukraine and against russia, and who would prevent moravetskyi from coming to the border? show your position, there are not many of them, talk to the local authorities, talk about how to withdraw permission for this protest, talk about how you can unblock cordonka, you showed yours , we will solve the issue, but you have to run a certain number of trucks a day there, that ’s not all, they just pretend that they have it, well, they are the ones, look, that previous government of morovetskyi just didn’t do it noticed, and this one has already started some kind of game, so that it is not as if we take part in the decision, but we do not decide, it is all an ugly show, why do i say that this will disgrace the honor of poland, they will disgrace the honor of poland, because that is how the polish government it is not your responsibility leads, we understand that polish society supports ukraine, fact, fact, we understand

that we are interested in economic cooperation with poland now, fact, fact, we understand that what happened with, our, uh, economic situation, is the decision of the european commission , when the members of the european union actually gave us the status of an ordinary country, why do they start saying that we should return to the previous regime, when poland says that it wants to see us in the european union, without all these restrictions, well, that's cynicism, really. .. nothing they did not do anything additional, it is not that we are using something that we never had before, no, no, there is no such thing, and this, i am very sorry, that this is happening, i will tell you honestly, and it causes serious economic losses the economy of ukraine, it will affect our situation, and now there will be problems there with various things, from sausages to juice, and

it will cause serious damage to poland. business, it suffered losses in connection with the farmers' protest very seriously, now it bears losses in connection with er, this border blockade, in general, one gets the impression that the politicians who are about to leave their positions now, in fact, want to leave such and such a legacy with pain to their successors, so that it will be difficult, no, right, because they want the new government to approve from the very beginning. local elections are unpopular decisions and programs for a part of society, this is a simple chess game, and by the way, it is possible that even this game cannot be won by them, it is just that the hostages in this chess game are not the future polish government, but ukraine and poland, they are abandoning ukraine the interests of the ukrainian and polish economy under the wheels of their truck, their possible

victory in local elections, in specific voivodships, and under the wheels of the truck as soon as the elections to the european parliament go there, they are no longer interested in anything, they are not interested in ukraine, they are not interested in poland, they are not interested in the economy, they are interested in mandates and the possibility of revenge in the next parliamentary elections, that's all, that's where their vision of the world ends, and it's a shame, they are polish politicians, we're talking about poland now, but how tendentious is this the phenomenon you're talking about, when we don't care about national...interests about the geopolitical situation, about the situation, at least in our region, we're just pursuing our own political goals, to what extent is this a trend now? well, for many people, this is a trend, and by the way , i can’t say that it doesn’t , it doesn’t end with any real successes, it ends, i ’ll tell you what i saw today in the publication,

nepshev, hungarian ot please, in september we received from vladimir putin , not seen in four years amount of gas, not seen in four years, but it is interesting that it is still more expensive than the price of gas on the stock market, so we say that orbán will get cheap gas from putin, no, more expensive, more expensive, you understand what the trick is, but at the same time, as you can see, it affects the hungarian position, and why, maybe not for nothing, orban occupies a large amount of more expensive gas in russia, does russia need this gas? to sell, but imagine the situation, a certain siyard comes to moscow, peter tells him, we can solve

some problems, but we need to sell a certain amount of gas, because there is no one to buy it already, well, pass it on, here it is, here it is, and let's solve something there, and we will solve it here, that is, when they say that hungary is negotiating with russia because russia is giving it to them. gas is not true, it is true, it is what hungary and orban get, instead, orban, i think, will get something, but what we don't know, but hungary doesn't get anything, because if they got it at the market price , they had a better economic situation, and now they buy more expensive gas and as a result do not have any money from the european union, but play on us, so this is also quite an interesting story, about which it would be worth saying that gas was €29 in june and hungarians bought gas from russians for

€32. well, it sounds, it sounds, and this is also an interesting story, so that orban would have paid putin 300 to 337 billion forints more in 8 months. than if we in hungary bought gas on the market in the world, you understand that this is ordinary corruption, yes, we ask such godfathers, what, why, what is behind all these decisions, that we sit like idiots, and with you, we are trying to give some great content, concrete actions, political content, that's what they did, because they may have such desires, but these people did this because of such desires, our great orbán does this because, perhaps, he keeps himself at the expense of cheap gas, gives hungarians opportunities for social, social

success, and then we will find out that , in fact, a large body is simply wasting the hungarian budget, the money of its taxpayers, in order for the russians to live better, that is another story, and when you ask what it is about or is it a trend, this is a trend, the actual replacement of the state... under marking what you protect there the national interests of their country, or even the interests of their own political formation, ugh , that is, someone around may think that this is for success in the elections, something like that, but we have serious interests there, in fact, they just simply solved the vopros, and that's all, and the russians they always act like this, but do you remember the stories in the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, when they did not understand which deputies were doing something, and then there was a huge corruption scandal in connection with money there, it seems from baku, ugh, well, they just

gave money to some deputies there the european parliament, then a deputy head of the european council of europe deputies, and then a deputy head of the european parliament was arrested for some money, now this is a huge problem, just now or has it always been, that is, corruption at the highest level? before there were no such countries as russia and china, which the soviet union could give you, the soviet union gave money to the international, communist and labor movement, but it could not bribe western politicians, because it did not even understand how it was done and why, it could organize for them there an attempt, but to give them money, then this did not happen, they simply did not understand the value of things, they gave money to the communists not so that they would vote correctly, so that they would be a communist party, a trade union organization, a newspaper, that's what they spent on it million. the millions of our money, by the way , that our parents earned, they gave it all to the communist party of san marino, relatively speaking, or italy, until the italian communists became their enemies there, well, then

they gave it to some other communists , and china the communist parties of greece are marxist-leninist, well , you can't say that, it's just because otherwise the communist movement couldn't exist, they acted like that, and then when they became market countries, they suddenly realized that they can just buy themselves favors, well at first they are just services. to buy, they came there to amsterdam, they sit there, people of different standing, to be politically correct in storefronts, like everyone, and like oh, and they realized that such services can be bought directly legally, and then we realized that you can go from this wonderful building with shop windows, with all this beauty, directly to the parliament, no one usually sits naked there, but they will also take money if you find the right person, and it began. to another life, and this is a question that was still asked in the 90s, whether the west will change russia with its approaches, or whether russia will change, but we return to

proisenger's conversation at the beginning of ours. will russia change the west? kvylem will simply walk around and hand out envelopes. well, we can already see that all this moral decay has changed, not all of them, there are many decent people, but people who are dishonest, they just help , well, how to say, the degradation of this system, it's so, so big, and then, again, you, when you start to think, probably they're just they act because they need some political interests of their own, and then they see what is behind it, why did i tell this story with gas in detail, we see that there are no political interests behind it, well, a responsible politician of the level of orban, orban cannot a very strong politician, do not understand what he is spends too much money, he is not an idiot , but if there is some personal interest behind it, most likely, then it can be anything, and we, as people who live in a corrupt society, must

be aware of, the mentality of those with whom we have a business, this is a very important issue, with which we can end our conversation today, thank you khrystyna, thank you vitaliy, it was saturday's political club, and in fact, we will meet next saturday, thank you, then, our colleagues are continuing the broadcast, be for the press, all the best the best

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