tv [untitled] December 7, 2023 9:00pm-9:29pm EET
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greetings on the air of ukraine, i'm jafer umerov, new war, or the pursuit of ratings, venezuela voted in a referendum to join the oil-rich part of the neighboring state of guyana. how will all this affect the war in ukraine? venezuelan president maduro, an ally of vladimir putin. justifies the possible annexation of sekibo with history. neighboring brazil is already sending soldiers to the border, and the united states will conduct military exercises with guyana's army. will the fresh crisis divert the attention of the us from supporting ukraine? where did it all start? on december 3, venezuela held a referendum that annexed a part
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of another country, guyana, to its country. venezuelan president nicolas maduro, known for his political ties with vladimir putin, and he officially supports russia's war against ukraine, has confirmed that more than 95% of the participants in the referendum, venezuelans, supported the annexation of a part of regional guyana to venezuela. a little more than 50% of all voters in the country even voted for the creation of a new state of guyana. why, they want to grant venezuelan citizenship to the residents of the region. maduro justifies this desire history in the 19th century, this region was part of british guiana, but venezuela considers it its own and does not recognize guyana's sovereignty over this region. and essequibo, which is claimed by venezuela, is the entire left bank of the essequibo river in terms of area, it is the territory of almost 2/3 of the entire guyana. but why venezuela? wants this region
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, although maduro says that historically essequiba is part of his country, but he had no great interest in annexing the region, until recently, but everything changed in 2015, just then in guyana, in the very same sequiba, oil was found, and in 2019, the country began oil production, which tripled guyana's gdp per capita in four years, the oil boom made poor guyana the world's economic growth leader and attracted the attention of its larger and better-armed neighbor, fearing an attack by brazil, another the neighboring country is sending its troops to the border with guyana, and the united states today announced joint military exercises in guyana. and what about guyana itself? the country's authorities are categorically against it, president muhammad irfaan ali said: every centimeter of the territory is sekibo belongs to guyana, and the country is preparing for
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self-defense? first of all, our answer has always been the same: one that respects international law, respects the dignity of people and leads to the preservation of peace in this region, that is why we appealed to the international court of the un to take temporary measures regarding this referendum, not to stop the referendum, because it their business, and to have a measure on two issues, the first, which would allow venezuela to annex essequibo, and the second, which would allow them to establish their own state there, and on these two issues, the international court made it clear that that venezuela cannot act on the results of the referendum and that venezuela must respect the status quo that exists in guyana today, which means that essequibo belongs to guyana and that guyana resolves this conflict. and how was the news about the referendum received
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in venezuela? the country's authorities accuse some opposition politicians of treason because of the zsekibo situation. prosecutors have issued arrest warrants for 14 people for what they say is an attempt to disrupt the referendum. however, why did maduro decide to hold a referendum now? bbc latin america correspondent katey wotzin says: maduro is trying to build support. his electorate. this region is covered in dense jungle and is also very rich in oil and minerals, and territorial disputes have been going on for over a century. in general , this land is perceived by venezuelans as venezuelan and no one cared much about it until 2015, when huge oil deposits were found there in the sea shelf. and then they suddenly became interested in this region. this is what nicholas was talking about.
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but in the end, now tseyana, the local population says that they did not go to the referendum and did not vote, and who consider themselves guyanese, the result of the referendum that took place the other day shows that 95% of venezuelans want this territory to belong to venezuela, such results did not come as a surprise. what will happen next , let me remind you, this question is asked by many residents of the region, and it is like playing the muscles of maduro, and why this question has become acute right now, because next year in venezuela elections will be held and maduro is trying to strengthen his support from the electorate, but he needs to think very carefully before organizing a military intervention, and not in last but not least, because the us recently lifted oil sanctions against venezuela, and perhaps seeing any aggression on the border will bring them back. something that venezuela would not like to allow is mentioned. and more on
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a potential new war, this time in latin america, with my colleague georgi ehrman, who has researched the topic. i congratulate you. how serious are maduro's intentions to annex part of guyana, and are analogies with russia's annexation of part of ukraine appropriate here? ah, i don't know if you hear me or you hear me, i wanted to know how serious the intentions are madura to annex part of guyana, and are the analogies with the war ... russia against ukraine appropriate, and congratulations, congratulations, first of all, the situation is very serious, since this is now a top topic in
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the information space of latin america, and directly, one might say , what can be done by the behavior of the neighbors, guyana. judge how they feel about the seriousness of this conflict. brazil sent several hundred soldiers and several dozen armored vehicles to the border with guyana. they are now fortifying the border, and this is a signal to venezuela from the side of brazil, that in brazil, any military actions aimed at establishing control over this disputed region are considered inadmissible. brazil, in principle , is the largest country in south america that claims subregional leadership, and that is why the president of brazil has repeatedly stated that they would prefer to see exclusively peaceful resolution of conflicts, the preservation of this tradition for latin america, to peacefully
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resolve conflicts, even territorial disputes, this, this is very important because actually this tradition of peaceful resolution nicolás maduro's decision, i.e. the decision to transfer the development of oil minerals to the control of the venezuelan state companies pdvsa, svg, in the territory of guyana, that is, in this disputed territory, and he also put forward, in essence, an ultimatum to western companies that are currently engaged in exploration or mining, they were given three months to stop this work, this is all very ... serious, because i remind you that the development of oil in guyana is carried out by exxon mobil, it is, well, one of the leading american oil companies, and i can also remind you that the first secretary of state of donald trump was frex tillerson, the executive director of this
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company, that is, the weight of this campaign is quite large and therefore for the usa, the conflict that is happening now between guyana and venezuela is not easy. some distant, distant conflict, this, and about the interests of american companies, and about preserving the security environment in the western hemisphere, so that the redistribution of state borders by force does not begin, as is already happening in the case of russia's aggression against ukraine. and if we talk about russia's aggression against ukraine, venezuela is one of the latin american countries that openly supports putin's war against ukraine. the usa, as you said, declared that they do not allow the country to seize part of guyana, and what consequences will this have for ukraine? well, first of all , it is now known that the latin american media reported that on december 10, president zelensky
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will take part in the inauguration of the president of argentina, javier milea, that is, he will go to buenos aires in south america, maybe it would even be a good gesture of solidarity for... .' to guyana and manifest solidarity with guyana because it faces the same challenges to its integrity that ukraine faces, and the reasoning it uses. now it is about the fact that these territories belonged to venezuela in the 19th century, then venezuela agreed with the decision of the paris arbitration regarding the ownership of these territories, then the british colonies of guiana, and then venezuela declared that this decision was unfair and that it is necessary to return these historical territories to venezuela, that is, if the redistribution of the territory begins now. america, which were once lost by various states, then it will be chaos in south america, and
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it is clear that for the usa, for which this region is directly close to their territory, the usa will have to be distracted from the problems of the same, russian-ukrainian ukrainian war, to problems in the western hemisphere, guyana, which has a rather weak army, in fact, experts doubt that it can stand still for a long time in the event of a military conflict. without outside help, even if it is currently being discussed that the venezuelan army cannot enter guyana from the land border because there are very dense forests, the version is already being discussed that it will attack from the sea to the territory of oyayana in order to occupy this 2/3 of the territory, well, this is a very bad example for the whole world, it means that annexations continue in the world, the process that basically started with the annexation of crimea... in 2014, yes, i just wanted to ask about this, how much
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influence did it have when russia annexed crimea in the 14th year, that is, they do similar, we, we see, we we see the weakening of the entire system of international security, and this weakening is the most catastrophic for small states that do not claim any subregional or regional leadership, now... big states, states that claim regional leadership, are beginning to solve some of their internal problems at the expense of small states that cannot, due to lack of resources, due to lack of strong armies, fight back , and these states that claim regional leadership, for the restoration of some issues of historical justice regarding the territories, essentially impose their will on these states, and on small states, well, in fact , ukraine is also on this list, since... ukraine is in the gray security zone, does not belong to any military alliances, there is only one choice, it is to find
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allies, to unite with states that are experiencing the same problems as in the case of guyana, in fact, in guyana has the same problems as ukraine, and now try to convey to the international community that the un, well, in fact , there is a lack of mechanisms to somehow influence those states that, in violation of the un charter, are trying to resolve territorial issues by force. thank you, george ermank, rospodin of the bbc was in touch with us. and if you want to read more about the origins of the territorial conflict between venezuela and guyana and learn about its possible consequences and the role of the russian military machine, then i recommend reading the article on our website under the heading will venezuela attack guyana. that's all for today, look for more stories on our website, and we will be on the air tomorrow at 9,
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take care! greetings, friends, live broadcast of the tv channel. the verdict program continues, my name is serhii rudenko, today in the program. delivered the victory of ukraine is in doubt, the financial support of the usa, where will the government get the funds if the event does not help? the strained relationship between zelensky and zaluzhny, is it really so and how does it affect the front? there is strength in unity, which prevents the authorities from being united in the fight against russia. friends, throughout the program we conduct a survey, we ask you
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about whether it is necessary to strengthen mobilization measures in ukraine, yes, no, please vote on youtube, everything is quite simple there, two options, yes, no, and if you have your own special opinion, please write it in comments if you are sitting in front of the tv and watching our program on tv, pick up your phone or smartphone and vote if you think it is necessary to strengthen... mobilization measures in ukraine 0800-21381 no 0800 211-382 call all calls to these numbers are free at the end of the program , we will summarize the results of this vote, i want to introduce today's guests of our studio, they are people 's deputies of ukraine, yevhennia kravchuk, the servant of the people faction, mrs. yevhennia, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air, rostyslav pavlenko, european solidarity faction, mr. rostislav, glad to see and hear you,
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thank you, in return, good evening, good evening, mykhailo tsimbalyuk, fatherland faction, mr. general, i congratulate you. and thank you for being with us today, i wish you all good health, ladies and gentlemen, as we ask our viewers about mobilization, about increasing the need to increase mobilization, let's try to answer the same question in the format of a flash poll, what do you think about it , let's start with mykhailo tsimbalyuk, mr. general, please, first of all i would wanted to say about demobilization or rotation , about those military servicemen and representatives of other defense forces, some of whom , unfortunately, have not been in service for two years, have been replaced and are in the hostilities zone, precisely in order to qualitatively prepare their replacements for rotation , and possibly partial, demobilization, it is necessary to carry out
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mobilization, mobilization qualitatively, and every ukrainian of conscription age who is subject to it. has mobilizations, must feel his civic duty, to the state and to those boys and girls who for two years already protect our state at the cost of their own lives and health. thank you, mr. mykhailo, ms. yevhennia, i know that the verkhovna rada is currently preparing two bills related to mobilization and remobilization, one of the authors of which is your fellow party member, unfortunately no longer a permanent representative of the president in the verkhovna rada, i wanted to say a permanent representative. but fyodor vyanislavskyi submitted his credentials, what do you think about this, about mobilization, about demobilization, because in the first part of the program we spoke with yehor firsov, who is the eastern front, he says that there is a lack of clarity in the mobilization itself and in the transformation of this entire system, and in
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demobilization, of course, because they are talking about it at the front, well, actually, if you were to ask our viewers, should it be changed, yes , to change, those soldiers, and, well, both women and men, who are now at the front and have been in a full staff war for almost two years, well , obviously, i think most viewers would say, so change, but this, well in fact, it raises the question of how to do it in such a way that, well, there was... no harm to the combat capability of the armed forces and all forces , the security and defense sector, and we must all give this answer, both the general staff and the people's deputies, especially from the specialized committee, i am not from the specialized committee, so i do not pretend to be there some very expert opinion, but it is clear, yes
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, that there should be a certain rotation, and i like, at least the idea that... voiced in the ministry of defense and rostem peace, that it should be recruiting, that is , people should feel that they go and will their best professional qualities used, and they will be applied to what they know and possess best. thank you, ms. yevgenia, mr. rostyslav, what do you say about the strengthening of mobilization in ukraine, well , considering the fact that we see that these days in the media environment, how the tsc is handing out summonses in gyms, or these summonses can be handed out simply as a punishment for some there are misdemeanors and acts that become public knowledge, when someone there tries to ski in lviv or in the form of a grandmother or something else,
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does various damage, then they come from the tsk, give him a summons, well, if you're joking like that, well, then go and and well, mobilization definitely shouldn't be a punishment, in order for it to be possible to really carry out the rotation effectively, colleagues were absolutely right, you have to take into account those things that have surfaced already in almost two years of full-scale war, we must , we hear about recruiting, then this system must be explained to the citizens so that it is clear that the lessons and conclusions have been drawn and that... it will not be about what will be taken there and sent, where they will be sent, after all, so that there was a normal training system, so that there was a normal distribution system, and so that... mobilization is approached not as such a soviet way of grabbing and dragging, but as the actual replenishment of the armed forces of ukraine out of
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necessity, because a full-scale war is going on, so we really hear a lot of general things here from the ministry of defense , first of all, now it would be very necessary to clarify this, i think that at least i hope that we will hear it here... a lot of it, including during the discussion of the draft law that is actually in the verkhovna rada. well, you, you, i understand, are a supporter of the fact that there should be some kind of career guidance for those who are mobilized, so that people clearly understand what professions they have there or in what directions they can be drafted into the army, so that it does not happen that everyone is raked in and sent to some one part, and more, more qualified approach to recruiting, i would say no. before mobilization, before recruiting for the armed forces, right? obviously, uh, ladies and gentlemen, another quite topic that, what lives,
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well, at least ukraine, i don't know how the united states of america lives this, because for them, apparently, this is an ordinary event when the senate of the united states of america fails a procedural vote for the allocation of 61 million billion dollars in aid to ukraine, and for us , of course, this is a rather serious matter, because the republicans and democrats have not found a compromise on the issue of the security of the southern border of the united states of america with mexico, and as a result, they did not want to vote for the allocation of additional funds to ukraine. the president of the united states of america, joseph biden, reacted to the senate's failed procedural vote by saying: republicans in congress threaten to stop supporting ukraine. if you fail to push through your highly involved border policy, it's political blackmail, plain and simple, the stakes are too
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high, the consequences too significant. jake sullivan, national security advisor to the president of the united states of america, putin will not limit himself to ukraine, the president's additional request is critical to advancing our national security interests from providing assistance to israel and ukraine to providing humanitarian assistance to civilians in around the world, while strengthening border security and combating the flow of fentanyl into the united states are bipartisan priorities that deserve bipartisan support, today's vote does not change the fact that congress must act to address these urgent needs, including by providing much-needed financing to ukraine by the end of this year. ms. yevgenia, a very large e-paratrooper, a political paratrooper has landed in the united states of america, who is trying to work with senators and congressmen and those who
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makes these decisions, why do you think that in a situation where in the united states of america, well, at least those who govern the country, understand exactly what is happening and what the price of ukraine's loss is, why do they still walk around a knife, because ukraine's failure to receive money will certainly lead to a change in the situation on the russian-ukrainian front, and as biden says, putin may not stop at ukraine, but go to europe, and then the americans will have to fight there. well, first of all, i would like to ask, not even warn, but to ask all ukrainian politicians to comment less on the internal situation in the united states, because these are internal... issues, yes, we are ukrainian-centric, we connect all decisions absolutely with us, and we read all these news and all on emotions,
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but this is part of the pre-election struggle, and the elections in the united states, they are constant, because the congress, at least the lower house of the house of representatives , changes every two years, and there will be presidential elections, so it is necessary, as a minimum , i think, just internal issues, but these are all border. mexico and so on, these are their internal issues, and there is still time until the new year and before both the senate and the lower house, the house of representatives go on vacation, there is still time to vote on the speech, the relevant laws, in what form they will be , no one knows, because only the legislators of the united states know this, whether they understand what is at stake, they do, but it is still politics, what i would like to pay attention to, and what happened, i think, is very important event, and it receives less media attention and clarification, this is a statement and it's not just a statement.
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it is on the basis of joint actions on the joint production of weapons of ukraine and the united states, it seems to me that this is quite such a historical event, because we need to think not about what will happen tomorrow, but what will happen in a year, two years, in three, in five, in 10 and so on, and the more we produce weapons in ukraine, jointly produced with germany, the united states, the better, the less we will be shocked. with every news from washington, whether it will be a vote or not, and today we are agreed that there will be a joint production of pppo systems and, how to say it correctly, they have to somehow cross these still soviet, soviet weapons and new already nato standards, because yes, it will be a certain transitional
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period, but we will work with what we have, and this is important, and as with germany, we have an agreement that rhine metal, the largest arms manufacturer, will work with ukraine and will produce, already jointly, joint weapons, various different types of weapons are shared there, yes we ourselves need to have these common types connected, thank you, mrs. yevgenia, we will take a break for one minute, we will include our correspondent dmytro didora, he is in the court of appeal, in kyiv, and there was another hearing regarding the former intelligence officer roman chervinskyi, dmytro, good evening, tell me what happened in court today, i congratulate sergey, i congratulate our viewers, so today it really became known. there are a lot of
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details of the case, today the meeting was held in order to cancel or soften the preventive measure against the former intelligence officer roman chervinsky, however, this decision was not satisfied by the court, just a few minutes ago, the court announced its decision, leaving the lawyers' statement unsatisfied, but they heard a lot of interesting things today, they heard, they also added to the case a letter from the commander-in-chief of the armed forces valery zaluzhny, it will be considered... in more detail in further cases, and also roman chervinsky revealed a lot of details of the special operation, in particular, which plane was planned, was planned to be driven from russia, which pilot planned to drive to ukraine, it was a su-34, he was very important for our air forces, because there is a special system that will help distinguish where the enemy planes are and where our planes are, and
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this system is very... for the ukrainian air forces and if they wanted to equip all of our air forces with the same system, therefore, a lot of people came to support roman chervinsky, after the court decision, they shouted shame, also between them, between people and prosecutors, sometimes there is a fight, just like between prosecutors and lawyers, but today we have such a decision, and roman chervinskyi will continue to be in the season. let me remind you that he is suspected of allegedly exceeding his authority, which led to the shelling of the kanatove airfield in the kirovohrad region, sergey, thank you, dmitry, and what, what next, that is, what, what, what next, the development of events, that is, the lawyers again will file an appeal, will again appeal to the court.
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