so difficult, and in the end the time will come when, if we cannot fight back, then we will go out under the threat of the environment, it will be tomorrow, in a few days or in a month, it is difficult to say, i think, even more, probably, it is difficult to say to those who now directly there finds, uh, roman, one more topic that i wanted to ask you about, we don't have much time, but it's important, our colleagues from the scheme project did an investigation and found out that ukraine used cameras for... with russian software, and what information from thousands of surveillance cameras, including state structures and bodies, was sent to servers in moscow. did the specialized committee of the verkhovna rada of defense, national security and intelligence pay attention to this investigation, and actually, how could it happen that after 2014 both state institutions and enterprises continued to use russian software, as far as i know, this issue was not considered in the committee question... in particular

, they should have approved and allowed to give permission for this kind of ee software of the state special communications, which should be used, at the beginning , i still remember the cadence, there were questions when we tried to introduce chinese software, but answering your question, yes, this is a problem, but we have not discussed it at the committee yet, i think it is ours as well questions, questions of security, and questions of law enforcement activities , looking at what kind of system it was... uh, heard, well, thank you very much for joining the broadcast, roman kostenko, people's deputy and member of the defense security committee, intelligence was in touch with us, thank you, and actually before about the topic i voiced, thousands of video surveillance cameras throughout ukraine had software from a russian manufacturer and could transmit information to russia for years. this was found out by our colleagues, journalists, investigators of the scheme program, they conducted. an experiment that

showed that video from cameras in ukraine, before reaching the consumer's phone or computer, goes to servers located in moscow, and the servers , in turn, belong to companies with ties to the fsb. cameras with russian software cont in the last two decades, they were massively purchased and installed by both state enterprises, in particular chas, the administration of sea ports, and private businesses, as well as ordinary ukrainians for their private homes. the ukrainian state limited the use of russian technology only on february 27, 2022, the fourth day after the full-scale invasion. and now my colleague kyrylo ovsyanyi joins our broadcast. kirill, i congratulate you, hello. do you hear good evening. and tell me, please, how you did this investigation and what, how in through what experiment helped you find out that the camera. did you transfer information to russia? well, we

turned to two independent organizations that independently checked several devices of the trasir company with russian software, and both organizations came to the conclusion that the video from these devices ends up on servers in russia. actually, for this we just needed a computer and these cameras and a video recorder. can i clarify with you right away what kind of information the russian servers could receive? well, in principle, they could receive simply the video stream from these devices themselves, and they could also receive, i think, the analytical information that these cameras collect, because this is a program, this is russian software, in addition to simply broadcasting video, it also performs certain analytics, reads numbers, faces, counts people, can

separate the colors of cars and people's clothes, including there and so on, well, in fact, it's just as much about placement as where it is, did i understand you correctly, that is, it's a complete picture of the city or the country even, you in in your investigation, you note that the company is a manufacturer, and it is connected to the fsb, in what way? and we do not know in what way, but it is not directly connected, well, we did not directly establish a direct connection, but a state special communication. we received an answer after our request that in may 22, they informed all law enforcement agencies and law enforcement agencies that this company, tressir dssl, has connections with the federal ministries and law enforcement agencies of russia. that is, we received an official response from the structure that supposedly checked this software before in 2019, and unfortunately they did not share their conclusions with us until... they came in 2019

and why did these cameras continue their function in ukraine? that is, you did not receive an answer from the state special communications service to the question of how this could happen? and what about other state structures, responsible bodies, did you contact anyone and what did they say to you? well, we know that the minister of internal affairs has already responded to our investigation, and they will report on the results of their actions, the results of their inspections, we also contacted the security service of ukraine, they reported that they had already paid attention to this company in 2020, when in lviv, in the lviv... region, they tried to purchase these cameras for uah 8 million, but they then intervened, tenders were canceled, but unfortunately, as you saw on the system prozoro, that they continued to purchase tracers even after that, and before that, and how

could it happen that in one case the security service reacted, in others, for some reason, it did not, well, this is a question for the fact that it is already up to them, huh. well, a small final clarification, whether i understood you correctly, that in ukraine and cameras, which software, which are russian, which can transmit information to moscow, can still work. unfortunately, yes, we were in poltava, we saw the operation of these cameras, the operation of this software, russian software, uh, at the same time, a large number of such cameras were installed simply all over ukraine and... well, it still remains the representative of the company told us that these hundreds of thousands of cameras simply work in ukraine, i heard kyrylo, thank you very much for joining the broadcast kyrylo ovsyanyi journalist of the draft scheme was in direct contact with us and

the full version of the investigation can be found on the resources of radio freedom . thank you. in particular , the publication writes that the white house and the us congress are trying to conclude an agreement that will allow providing military aid to ukraine and israel, but at the same time will prevent illegal migration across the us-mexico border. i will remind you that on december 6 the draft law on providing aid to ukraine, israel and taiwan did not pass a procedural vote in the senate, and then ... biden said that he would be ready to make significant concessions on the issue of border security. at the same time, the white house is talking about the fact that they will try to persuade russia to negotiate peace on the terms of ukraine by the end of 2024. this was stated by the us president's deputy national security adviser jonathan

feiner. we would like russia to be faced with a choice by the end of next year, or they sit down at the negotiating table on terms that will be acceptable to ukraine, based on... the requirements of the un charter regarding the sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine, the entire ukrainian territory, or they will face a stronger ukraine, supported by a stronger defense and industrial base in the united states, in europe and in ukraine, which will have more opportunities to go on the offensive. valery chalyley, chairman of the board of the ukrainian crisis media center , ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to the usa in 15-19 joins the broadcast, mr. valery, my greetings, good evening, greetings, glory ukraine, glory to the heroes, send russia away. to negotiations on the terms of ukraine by the end of 2024, does washington have the leverage for this, and why was it not used earlier, if so? well, of course there is. i am glad to hear that the correction, er, of this plan is taking place, which

was created last year in the first weeks, somewhere, i think, 10 days after the large-scale aggression, the plan was tentatively ... consisted of preventing the transition war for the territory of ukraine geographically, that is, so that there are no threats to the nato country, prevent nuclear escalation and try to gradually regulate escalation, yes, that is, well, in this regard, of course, not sending missiles to ukraine on time, planes and many other things. now a correction is being made. i really hope that these words, which were expressed at the aspion high security forum, will become a real embodiment of, well , i said, not a new approach, a certain correction of the actions of the united states. those goals that were just announced, and you all heard

the white house official, they have specific measurements this is really the acceptance of the entire package, which is now in the political struggle, it is at the expense of this package. providing ukraine with such a type and such a quantity of weapons that this plan would become a reality, well, i will say this, not from the point of view of military expertise, but simply that everyone is now an expert. became on this occasion, without several hundred missiles, such a distance, not a long-range radio station, but a larger radius than today, well, to at least reach the entire crimea, yes, without this, this plan will not be implemented, which means that it is an attack, that means partners should provide several hundred missiles, not three, not five, but several hundred, of course, these are all the same increases, and it was said that the supply is sufficient. number of projectiles and the same for the hymer projectiles, but

not only this is the main thing, here we are talking about drones, more powerful, high-precision weapons in large quantities, but if it happens, i can say that this plan is to plant, to force putin to negotiations, not with ukraine, to negotiations in general, i do not know how it will be implemented, but to negotiations, this plan has be tempted by a large quantity. additional weapons, mr. valery , you mentioned help, and we mentioned the agreement, the compromise that the white house is ready for, reide writes about this, regarding the issue of the american border, so that ukraine and israel would still receive help, even if this agreement concluded, what are the chances that the aid to ukraine will be voted this year, considering that until december 14, or rather from december 14 , both the senate and the house of representatives will be on vacation. well, let's start with the fact that, in principle, we have already lost timing, that is, time

in fact, two months since october, and indeed, if there are still surpluses on military issues, yes , which are now supplied in such smaller volumes, but this supports the situation, then already in some directions, in relation to supporting the budget of the ukrainian economy, there is no longer there, so in the principle really needs it. in december, it would be before christmas, that is, before these vacations, of course, some congressmen say, as before, they said, i can still work for the holidays, but it will not happen, it must be accepted now, then it will not be postponed further, i will tell you this, well, for today , if you look at the situation, it is escalating and escalating, that is, it will be resolved at the peak just at the peak, by the way, i am quite calm in terms of the fact that this is... the interests of the united states , and here no one wants to look

like those who put the national interests of the united states under attack , and, that is, the republicans who are fighting politically, they, frankly, have already crossed these lines, in my opinion, because here it is already obvious when you say the border with mexico, everyone is showing the wall, but now i was looking at this money and this package, it is no longer about that wall, it is not about the physical protection of the border. it is about a different attitude towards illegals, that is, it is a blow to the image of president biden and the democratic party that they will agree that those illegals who have already entered the us territory cannot claim refugee status. it's a very unpopular thing in california, it's an unpopular thing in the states where these people are trying to move from mexico, not because of the good life, and it's not just mexicans, so i think that... that this is going to be a politically bold move on the part of joseph biden . , if he puts even his own

ratings are under attack, but it will still push the whole package, because it is not only money for ukraine 61.4 billion, not only for israel or for the security of the usa in general, it is also an action plan for the next year, there are plans for where there is funding, and if they ask where... is the victory plan, then i think that just accepting this package is part of the victory plan. mr. valery, i want to return to today's news, putin announced that he will run in the presidential elections of the russian federation on march 24, and this happened after he was allegedly asked by the so-called representatives of the so-called dnr. let's see how it was. the federation council, the federation council has appointed the elections of the russian federation and i am in person. of all our people , all of donbas, our united lands, i would like to ask you to take part in these

elections, to take part in these elections, thank you very much, thank you very much, i will not hide it, at different times i had different opinions, but now you are right, these are the times when decisions need to be made, i will run for the position of president of the russian federation, the position of president, well no let's say that it was a surprise, and quite such an extravagant form was issued. how to sell it, so to speak, whether it somehow affects geopolitics, whether it somehow affects diplomacy between the russian federation and other countries, i tried to say right away. to react that such a decision is very spontaneous, as commented by the propagandist pistkov, but putin is spontaneous, as i read this decision, putin has no chance to leave the post of president of russia alive, that is, his leaving this position at any time is not a threat to him only in political, and now

already physically, so there is no way out for him, he has to go to these elections, if he... he didn't want to, it's a matter of his personal life and survival, so the decision, that is, this decision , well, he will be there until this will be allowed by his situation, his regime, and he will not get out of there already, well, more than 20 years of authoritarian dictatorial rule, and there was also medvedev, a kind of understudy, during those 20 years, well, in fact , putin was also in charge, it was definitely visible. when there was a war in georgia, medvedev could not make a decision until putin got the call with regard to the entry of russian tanks into belilisiv , that is, therefore, in principle, this huge period has already passed the third decade, and this does not bring anything good, because vladimir putin is still of the same species until the 14th year, he

could perhaps go there in different ways ways until 2005, but then he stood up, chose his own path and added a lot of his soviet, internal experiences, he always remembers the gateway to leningrad, the soviet union, so unfortunately, the soviet union has not yet died while putin is in charge , the soviet union is alive in russia, well, in principle, the voters are the same, soviet people. heard, mr. valery, thank you very much for joining the broadcast, thank you for an interesting conversation, valery. the plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the usa in 15-19 years and the head of the board of the ukrainian crisis media center taught. thank you. we will put an end to that. don't forget to subscribe to radio liberty's youtube channel. comment on this post. your opinion is important to us, like it, so we can

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remedy. welcome to the espresso channel. today , in our military program, we will talk about what new prospects for ukraine will be the decisions and plans that were discussed in washington on december 6 and 7. and there , representatives of ukraine discussed the situation on the battlefield and current defense needs. it was also about security guarantees for our country. and in washington at the same time , a large-scale conference of government officials and gunsmiths from the usa and ukraine took place, which took part 350 representatives of defense companies from both countries, and the goal was to find ways to accelerate the production of weapons for the defense forces of ukraine with the help of the united states of america. according to the results,

among other things, a memorandum was signed on joint production in the defense industry and it was also announced that... that production facilities should be built in ukraine to provide the armed forces of ukraine with the necessary weapons in the areas of air defense of ukraine, the production of critically needed ammunition, and as well as repair and technical maintenance of equipment samples that have already been transferred to the armed forces of ukraine. so, how will all this affect the defensive and offensive capabilities of ukraine, what should we hope for, and where should we bet. after all, on our own capabilities, this is what we will talk about with professional experts and managers of our companies, who want to strengthen the combat capability of our army at the expense of the potential and...

in the field of the defense-industrial complex and in seeking to highlight the most relevant trends in the field of security, and now joins us the first guest, this is valentin badrak, director of the center for army, conversion and disarmament research, military analyst and writer, mr. valentin, welcome, nice to see and hear you, mr. sergey, very happy to be invited, as always, i would like to start with the first question, but i am sure that you actually followed the results of our delegation's negotiations in washington, the minister of defense was there, the head of the president's office was there, and the minister of strategic industries, that is , it was about the military-political and military-technical components, but when we if we are talking about the military-political component, then first of all i was interested in this thesis that security guarantees for ukraine were discussed, this is a topic that was raised there after the villeneuve nato summit, then it kind of receded into the background.

but we see that the process is somehow taking place, i would like to ask how we now understand these security guarantees from the united states, is there still this concept that there could be an option that the united states has with israel, where, relatively speaking, guarantees there seems to be no security in such direct understanding, however. there are agreements that are guaranteed to provide assistance to israel from the united states, and should always be done so that the israeli army has a technological advantage over its opponents, is this option possible for us in the context of these conversations and plans about guarantees for ukraine? in fact, the issue of guarantees is becoming even more urgent, because the war is dragging on, and with such... languages, in principle, we cannot, if we are realistic, yes, we understand that we cannot count on full membership in nato, which would provided us such, such full-fledged guarantees, so that we

are protected from attacks in russia, but precisely such guarantees, which can be based on the model of israel, are very effective and very interesting, why, because israel not only receives. more than 3 billion dollars annually, and from the united states, but also constantly introduced joint developments. for example, the aarrow anti-missile defense project, the third version, there the united states spent more than 50% of all appropriations for this project, it is very important, and during the war it worked very well, because these weapons are both in the united states and in... israel, and when the time begins or, so to speak, yes, that is, hostilities, israel made a request and almost immediately received all the necessary high-tech things,

ammunition, primarily for these systems anti-missile systems, so this is a very important point , regarding guarantees in general, of course, and this was echoed during the summit in july, and it was recorded in the protocol of the g7 that... ukraine should not only receive resources and receive weapons from the west countries from the guarantees of guarantor countries, but also to receive technologies, which will allow the defense-industrial complex of ukraine to be integrated into the defense capacity-building system, and this again corresponds to this israeli model, because it gives us exactly such opportunities, the only thing i would like to say is that we are very eager , so that bilateral guarantees with all countries, let's say with the united states there or with germany or with france, so that they have the form of a legal

document and that they clearly define both the figure of aid and the areas in technology that we need, for example, say missile technology or air defense, this is an urgent need for ukraine right now, it would greatly accelerate our development. this is especially relevant at a time when washington and berlin are debating whether to provide us with missiles with a range of 300 kilometers or more, we could make our own, especially since i won’t go into details, but we can also make an upgraded cruise missile, which will hit targets on the ground, and a ballistic missile as part of the operational-tactical missile complex project, the united states now know and understand this... but the negative point came from the french foreign ministry this week, they announced there that they were concluding negotiations.

regarding security guarantees, they can complete it by the end of the year, but they are extremely unwilling, uninterested, that the parliament, firstly, that there should be some numbers, that there is a clear definition of their obligations, and secondly, that the parliament ratify it, let's say so, yes, and this is a danger for ukraine, because it can become a trap just like the budapest memorandum was, when everyone agreed and everything was fine, but... but when one country, we know, russia, guarantor country, violated its obligations and started a war against ukraine, that is why we would like a legal document. now let's go back to the united states, very interesting things have happened in the united states , in my opinion, and the first two projects that have already been announced in the military-technical cooperation, which is about ...

adapting western-made missiles to domestic, well, not domestic , and to the soviet, let’s say, complexes, buk-300, which are in ukraine, and this project called frankenstein, he actually received, well new life, there yes, in fact an agreement has been concluded about it on joint production, and this is very , very important, and this joint production will also be... in ukraine and in the united states, this is a kind of, in my opinion, an intermediate project, if we we will cope with it very well, well, together with the second project, the second project is the help of two powerful american companies, as i understand it, primarily with technologies in the deployment of 155 millimeter ammunition production on the territory of ukraine, ukraine, again, a very important project for us and most importantly , that these are joint productions,

it's... a very, very heavy thing. i think that the situation here looks the same as with the german company rain metal, which did not start with some high-tech projects, but proposed to produce armored vehicles, which, let's put it mildly, is not new, yes, but joint production. it is probably about the fact that if the ukrainian defense complex proves in practice that we are powerful partners and can do it all, then more powerful projects and projects can follow, perhaps which will be partially localized, well, let's say how from poland, purchased about 500 hymars complexes, yes , high-precision, high-precision artillery, and deploys, localizes the production of both launchers, partly, yes, partly and missiles, and this is a very important

example for us, because... in this way, we can get technology, become a part of the high-tech world and finally get a high-tech advantage over the enemy, the main thing is that the glass is the content of new security guarantees, because security guarantees are actually a situation where the enemy will not dare to attack us, but one the option is yes, this country becomes a member of the nato bloc, and then it does not dare to attack, because it... affects the entire union, and the second moment is when ukraine, following the example of israel, will increase its combat potential to such an extent that the enemy will consider it an extremely difficult task to attack ukraine, and will understand that it will immediately have a very powerful response. we have already started doing something now, and i have already mentioned our missiles, and i want

to say. that the attacks of russian enterprises actually began in november, this a new stage, in fact, in this war, because before we remember, we received information that there were attacks on, say, airfields, one, two, three planes were hit , and so on, but when it comes to the defeat of defensive enterprises , then this is already, well, let's say, ukraine is showing its teeth... the teeth are already sharpened, new teeth are already sharpened, and therefore , actually, such joint productions, they can do a lot for ukraine, and of course, one of the main components, which would i would like to say, it is the creation of a rocket with a range of 100 km, ukraine is already conducting such developments, and as a matter of fact, joint actions with the united states.