are not playing for the same goal, they will try to save face in any weather and keep a certain distance, despite the fact that yes, in this case, this situational rapprochement of these russia and the arab countries, well , obviously, uh, we continue to talk about what is happening now in israel and in the gas sector, in particular the third phase of the tzagal ground operation, what to expect from it and... how is the general course of hostilities developing, mr. igor? well, what can we expect from her, the continuation of bombings, murders and bloodshed on both sides, that is, in principle, nothing we have not been waiting for anything new for the past two months. and it is obvious that this war is dragging on, essentially for the whole winter. well, by the way, this is not characteristic of the region, that the armed conflict has been going on for so long. we never... well, it was already an active phase

of the war there, it was there for several weeks, yes, up to a month, and then it was already such a positional war, yes, that is, when the israeli troops were in the lebanese territory there for a long time, well, i'm not talking about the southern level, in this case. there are active hostilities, that is indeed , short-term wars that do not significantly affect the economy, as they do not create economic pressure, and, accordingly, do not draw out the economy of a large number of men, are really not characteristic of the israeli strategy of waging wars. in this case, we still see that the war continues, yes it means. on the one hand, the complexity of this

war, it is clear that the war in the city is not a war somewhere in the fields, even there a war on the west bank, but i would say that here it is just very similar to such an exhausting one, that is , what could i do compare, remember the first one the first antifade. first, the intifada, which had the character of such a non-violent , palestinian, for a long time, and in the end, it also significantly, there for several years, it undermined the israeli economy, it seriously affected the situation inside the country, and the security situation, well, serious criticism of israel's position by the european and world community in general, and here israel... may actually find

itself in a similar situation, but much faster, because it is conducting active hostilities, and many people are already comparing israel itself and the war in israel with the way the russians are waging war, and you don't even have to go far, here recently an israeli general, explaining the long and long war in gaza and the necessity of bombing on... bombings, for example, he connected, connected it with mariupol and said that the russian army also bombed mariupol for a long time, so in principle there are a lot of such interesting moments here, and the further, the more criticism will increase, and it is obvious that these are critical times for israel, well actually from a point of view in terms of international support for this war. and to what extent does israel generally need international support for this war, if it is supported in these situations? the united states is important, and

the arab countries are practically neutral. you noticed that during putin's visit to saudi arabia and the emirates, neither the saudi nor the emirati elders even used the situation to talk so loudly about gas. only the president of iran spoke about it, not an arab. without a doubt, without a doubt, i don't think the arab countries now clearly understanding that the actual conversation with putin is about gas from the point of view of reality. russia's influence on this situation can give something, and it is clear that we are talking about the united states of america, but the situation of the united states of america is also changing, as far as possible, based on the same israeli press, and which is critical, well, from that part of the israeli press , which is critical of netanyahu, there you can at least clearly understand that the americans are also running out of patience from the point of view that they... want to see what happens after

the end of the war, what will be the peace after the end of the war, and there is no such thing, because of the lack of a clear and understandable position. which would put an end and give a perspective for the palestinian population, not only from gaza, but also from the west bank, that is, at least open up the possibility of changes in the future, this is more than anything, ugh, we unfortunately lost contact with mr. igor, unexpectedly, but i believe that he said what we wanted to hear, he said that there is no such picture of the future, by the way, in the russian-ukrainian war as well. you are gone pictures of the future, this is the biggest issue of all these conflicts, but we'll talk about that after the commercial, so stay tuned as we continue our dialogue with christina.

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program, to be honest, when you can ask questions and hear comprehensive answers to them all, in fact, the president of venezuela, now let's take a look at... america. nicolás maduro, who is well known, in particular to ukrainians, for his friendship and general support for putin's policies, signed six decrees on the annexation of a part of neighboring guyana. let me just remind you that we are talking about the sekibo region, in which in 2015, if i am not mistaken, found such rather specific deposits of energy resources, the development of this whole story began, american campaigns were involved, by the way, in the development. but venezuela historically does not recognize these territories as guyanese, at least because they used to belong to a british colony and even the venezuelans do not agree with this, in fact they showed this allegedly on the fourth of december in a referendum

held among the population of venezuela itself, by the way i do not i know what this referendum showed, and whether it was held among the population of this region itself, why, if they are strong? they believe that this is our crimea, why hold a referendum, although the russians held a referendum in crimea, but they occupied it before that, well, since venezuela could not occupy it, it is not held there. by the way, i have to tell you that against the background of this referendum, the guyanese put a flag, the flag of guyana, on one of the hills of essequiba, and venezuela showed a television broadcast where the representatives of the indigenous essequi people, as they call it, took down the flag of guyana and put it there the venezuelan flag, because they consider themselves an integral part of the venezuelan people. well, in general, you need to understand one important thing, in principle, territorial disputes between countries. latin america has been going on for two centuries in a row. it seems to us that this is a stable

continent. there is no stability there. ugh. fierce wars have been going on between the countries of latin america for all these 200 years. you know that 2/3 of paraguay's population died in one of these wars. 2/3 of the population. imagine the scale of these wars, which are simply too much for us distant, so we do not dwell on it. another great example is...bolivia, which is cut off from the sea by neighboring countries, and it has a naval academy on one of the high mountain lakes, and it continues to receive it, to finance it, it has a navy that trains on that lake, uh, admirals, sailors, everything is kept in the hope that sooner or later bolivia will return to its territory at sea, which for all other countries is the sovereign territory of the republic of chile, ugh, and... again, i will not give a large number of examples, because if

you look at each country a little carefully, maybe there are no such conflicts between the so-called portuguese-speaking and spanish-speaking worlds of latin america, because all the portuguese-speaking colonies have united in brazil, it is a federal country that united as states all the territories that were before part of the portuguese influence, the spanish influence caused all of spanish-speaking latin america to split into different countries. and besides, the last part of spanish-speaking america, mexico, which had territorial conflicts with the united states the states, as you know, a third of the united states is the former mexico, including texas, california and others, the states on the border with the... united states, isn't that what they 're called? ot. the conflict over esakib began

around 1800 14. and that is also clear. venezuela was a spanish possession. ugh. next were the dutch possessions. next were the british possessions. the british united their territories at the expense of what they bought. received some territories from the dutch, the spanish colonizers of latin america did not recognize this and believed that these the dutch territories just refer to their sphere of influence, a clear border between the colonies of great britain and spain, and between independent venezuela and british guiana, as this territory was called, never. was not, in the end this conflict was settled as if along the borders that exist now,

but venezuela continued to consider this a non-final settlement of the conflict. during the time of hugo chávez, in principle, there were very warm relations between the two countries, because it is necessary to understand that both venezuela and guyana, as it is not surprising it sounds like they are governed by left-center parties, it's just that there is only one center-left party in venezuela right now. in guyana there are two of them, because there is a party that is oriented towards the population of indian origin, there is a party that is oriented towards the population of african origin, and they replace each other in power, but in principle their ideology is very similar, this is the famous history of the struggle of the founders of modern guyana, burnham and jagan, jagan was the leader of the all- national party, and berdem decided that he wanted to fight for power, and the only thing he could to rely on... the african population, he led the africans out of this party, ruled guyana there for 20 years, then the change

of leaders began constantly, from one party to another, it was simply not one of the parties of influence, and it is clear that ugachaves did not wanted to quarrel with them, and even joined his organization petro karibe, which allowed guyana to buy venezuelan oil at domestic prices, as , say, putin does with belarus. but then they really found oil and here in venezuela, of course, they remembered that there is no border arranged, and the guyanese immediately appealed to the un international court of justice to put an end to the situation once and for all. in this story , venezuela does not recognize the jurisdiction of the international court, and here the question arises, what next? the referendum was passed, 10% of venezuelans participated in it, that is, it was also a very conditional referendum, and for venezuela itself. maduro created the state of essequiba, there is a state, there is a new map of venezuela with essequiba as part of venezuela, there is

a state administration, there is a governor who works on the border, and control? there is no control, but we have a representative of the autonomous president of ukraine in the autonomous republic of crimea, and there are no borders, and on the map ukrainian crimea is ukraine, it’s just that it is recognized internationally, and venezuela is not recognized internationally, it is like russia, but just russia on the contrary, so to speak, russia has control over annexed territory, and venezuela has no control, but it has a map and a governor, like us, there is one here. i would say a hybrid moment, that is, it behaves like russia, and has control like us, but everyone looks at the situation, thinks, well, what will he do tomorrow, because guyana has an army of 800 people, venezuela has one of the strongest armies in latin america, and besides, the favorite child of any venezuelan regime, well, ugachavos

was a military man, the presidents of venezuela have been military men for a very long time, this is a serious force, well, for guyana, it is definitely a serious force. what to do if venezuela occupies 2/3 of the territory of guyana, this must also be understood, guyana and sekibo, that’s what, it’s 2/3 of the territory of guyana, and there are almost no people living there, so what’s the trick, that’s what we say, but as gayana will exist, as it existed, and also will exist because the majority of guyana's population does not live in the essakiba area, it is forests, but it has access to the shelf for oil. another moment, if it occupies this... territory, thus changing the border where venezuela, guyana and brazil meet each other, brazil does not want, as we now understand, any bloody confrontation about borders or redistribution of borders, in their interests, that all this should not happen in a violent way, that is why they are now taking more of the side, as we understand, of guyana and the united states, unexpectedly, and here

interests in the region converge, so to speak. of course, everyone doesn't want...anything at all to happen that would violate international law again, besides, don't forget, there is already an opportunity for oil production there, uh, this opportunity arose there almost four years ago, now it already exists large international companies that can extract this oil, and again they appeared. in september and now it's november and it's december already december so it's already december so that means exsonmobil is there i think people who represent the interests of exsonmobil, they can also ask questions at the state department in the pentagon, and to drill or not to drill, what to do, you will protect our investments, which are internationally legitimate, we are not doing

anything illegal, we are a sovereign state, we have permits. government on operations, should we do these operations or not, what will you do if venezuela seizes this territory, and we know what it will do first, it will nationalize this, these oil deposits and drive out all land companies, invite russian and chinese, yes, well, it is clear, the truth, absolutely, and there is a serious problem here, which, of course, might not be so relevant for us. if it weren't for our war, just imagine, the war in ukraine has been there for hundreds of days, however, the war in israel on the territory of the gas sector has been for tens of days, and there will be a third war in latin america, and the states will not be able to ignore it, of course, well, they captured essequibo and

everything, the states are already not in the west from nicolas maduro, it was believed that in the end they succeeded in... the situation in a historical way, because the president of venezuela agreed to fair elections, and everyone thought, what will he do without such an agreement, he will lose the elections, no, not ours, but absolutely not necessarily, if the elections will take place against the background of a small victorious war, as nicolás maduro hopes , then he can win these elections, and the regime can collapse, but we remember that a very similar situation was with the argentine generals. penultimate of the argentine military administration, decided that he would conduct a small victorious battle for the polklen islands, well, it would not be great britain to send

its troops to some rocks hundreds of thousands of kilometers from great britain itself. and as you know, with margaret thatcher, who was absolutely convinced that this should be done, by the way, there was huge opposition to this in british public opinion, everyone believed that the process had already taken place. of decolonization, that we should forget about the falklands, that great britain should not send its fleet to such a huge distance, because it is no longer an empire anyway, but margaret thatcher was out of the question legitimacy, that is, conditionally speaking, if we agree with someone legitimately about independence, about the transfer of this territory, as was the case later with hong kong, if you remember, this is one story, if they simply impose their will on us by force, then we have to defend, uh, and then there was another important point that... argentina considered the falkland islands as its malvinas , but the population of the area wanted to live as part of the united kingdom, uh, there were no people there who wanted to be part of

argentina, by the way, we don't know if they are in essequiba, and in that situation, margaret thatcher made a decision that buried the argentine military as a political factor, because whatever the argentines thought, they said about them afterwards, but by the time there was a war, you know, they were very popular, ugh , the junta gained popularity among the population, general galtieri was considered a national hero there, the argentines don't remember it much, but these days, until the british fleet came, there was such a patriotic hysteria, because you have to understand, the argentines never thought and don't think it's a british territory, if you think any argentines now think that... it's a british territory, no, they just have to reckon with, if you like, international law and force, but the fact that it's argentina everyone in argentina is sure of this, just like

everyone in russia, who thinks about crimea, that it is, that it is ours, and just like that, i assure you, in venezuela one way or another, people can simply not want, not to think that this sakib territory is worth the war, but they have no doubt that it is their territory, that is the big problem of these territorial claims. they can exist, most people tend to think, well, it's ours, ours, ours, ours, ours, ours, ours, but don't fight about it until there's an idiot who says no, i'm ready to fight, general galcieri, putin or maduro, and then it turns out that the population says, well, go to war, because this, that is, doubts that it is right, that it is not ours, the discussion is only about how much war is necessary, and the ordinary person is not can send an army. to win back what she considers her own, but if someone sends for him, someone makes this decision? geltieri, maduro and putin, this is perfectly normal,

and by the way, this is also where those who believe that the putin regime can be undermined if russia loses crimea, because it will be absolutely obvious to most russians that putin has lost territory that should be russian, huh, and this may be a problem with how much the regime can explain to its own. what happened to the citizens, but we understand that the russians will continue to wait for the return of crimea, let's say, it will fall putin's regime, which means that russia will want to give up crimea, no, it can simply consider that it has not reached, has not reached a situation where it can be returned, but most people will consider that putin has made a huge. a mistake, if crimea was not held, which will have to be returned later, well , those politicians will win who will know how to do it, how to destabilize ukraine, and we are simply doomed to it,

well, you see, i say it again, 200 venezuela has been arguing with guyana about this territory for years, so it's time x, uh, when a referendum was held and the official inclusion of esakib in the composition of venezuela took place, now the question arises, maduro will lose the election. does this mean that the next president of venezuela will issue a decree that will cancel maduro's decision like that, no, you know, like with the british brexit, that is, everyone who came may have understood that this was not the best idea , but, but what to do, brexit is brexit, and this is it, the exhibition is ours, and it will be ours, by the way, so maybe you and i will now better understand the logic of alexei navalny, which we all... was unpleasant here, which said that crimea is not a sandwich, and said , how can he, he must, clearly say, crimea is ukrainian territory, he will return it to ukrainians in 48 hours, but the bulk...

talked about the political reality of russia, which even he cannot to deny that there are some decisions that are not reversible, they can be changed by force, but this will not change them legally, we have to talk about this legally from the point of view of the country in which they are adopted, from the point of view of venezuela as an example with guyana, we can finally do this do homework so you said that you agree that it will be very difficult for the next president of venezuela to reverse maduro's decree. and the next president of russia: it will be easy to cancel a non-presidential decision , maduro, even if he didn’t pass it through the parliament, he only passes through his own referendum and his decree, so there is still something that can be done with it, but here is what happened in russia and ukraine, there is a constitutional right of russia and there is a constitutional right of ukraine, the constitutional right of ukraine, which clearly says, the autonomous republic of crimea, sevastopol, uhu, donetsk, luhansk,

kherson and zaporizhia regions, among those. territories that are part of ukraine, and this is still internationally recognized, yes, and we say , this is a fact, and there is a constitutional right of russia that says the same: the republic of crimea, sevastopol, the donetsk people's republic, the luhansk people's republic, kherson region, zaporozhe region, subjects of the russian federation, this is a constitutional right of russia, we say, well, what does it matter, it is not recognized by any country in the world, well, it is not recognized, and what, how does it affect essence of constitutional law of russia after. for the fact that russia even recognized the priority of its own legislation over its international obligations, well, when there is no longer even a real clause in its constitution that would allow the annulment of decisions that were adopted by the russian parliament, the president and confirmed by the constitutional court of the russian federation, it means no way, so it seems to be the best option for us, we liberated all... our territory, set up

border posts there, joined nato and the european union, let's imagine this , we don't have a war with the russian federation, what does the constitution of the russian federation look like, did they change it or not, no, they didn't change it , after all, it still looks like this now, according to their constitution, kherson is still theirs, and why kherson is probably theirs and zaporizhzhia, by the way, this is similar to... how can it be, they don't control zaporizhzhia, and maduro doesn't control the entire state of venezuela, and he has nothing to do, do you understand? okay, what about their constitution, we really have to worry about it, and the world has to worry about it, we we may not care, and the world may not care, but we are, we have a neighboring state, nearby, which considers part

of our territory as its own, even... that it does not control it, what kind of relations do we have, relations, strained, well let's take japan, japan believes that its northern territories are occupied by the russian federation, what are the relations, there is no peace treaty after 1945 between japan and russia, no, there are no real relations that would allow japanese companies to invest in russia and so on and so forth other it's all very careful always it happens, yes, but these are small pieces of territory and still in the sea, there is no dry land border there, when there was a land border between japan and russia on the island of sakhalin, everything was even worse, but it is not there now, well, how does this in principle affect our further life, we have

a closed border in principle. with or we agree that russia can do so, well, as georgia has de facto agreed in principle, russia controls abkhazia, south ossetia, but russian citizens have a visa-free regime to georgia, tourism is more important than all these things, they somehow trade there, they have, well , they have direct air connections, they have diplomatic relations, by the way, anyway, they already have everything, they can't even restore diplomatic relations, because these territories don't allow it, fine. but we have an even worse situation, as you understand, because here, well, there is a problem, well, the real problem of khrystyna is for the future, because we will most likely live with a closed border with russia, as armenia has been living there for decades with a closed border with azerbaijan.