tv [untitled] December 10, 2023 6:00am-6:31am EET
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on the air of the tv channel, the program studio zahid, we will analyze the most important events from the in particular, what is happening on the international political chessboard and, accordingly, how it can affect the domestic ukrainian political situation. our guests today are oleg rybachuk and mark feigin. our first guest is oleg rybachuk, ex-vice prime minister of ukraine for european integration, former head of president yushchenko's secretariat, co-founder of the honest glory to ukraine movement, sir. i congratulate you, glory to the heroes and from death we all know who. well, the key story: the united states, republicans with democrats or democrats with republicans couldn't to invade is most important. in particular, it is about our interests. well, in ukraine, we should focus on this. so? well , by chance i would like to ask you what the prospects are, so that you can still see this issue through. we understand, you can connect it with mexico, you can connect it with the american one.
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election campaign, but on the way out, except for anxiety about this, i have nothing. yes, there are reasons for anxiety, and there are reasons for optimism, i always try to, well, look for the light at the end of the tunnel, because otherwise you are programming yourself, well, as they say, despair is a big sin, that is, the first thing is that it is not yet evening , no one predicted that the vote will take place at the beginning of december, everyone said that it will be, as they say, under the christmas tree, there under the christmas tree, and secondly, what was it for.. . the diarrhea package , which did not include the arrangement that the republicans so desired, well , if it were walls, the question is not the same, many of us perceive, oh my god, let’s give it to you, he will build you a wall, but the question is not about the wall, the question on immigration policy, that is, republicans claim that during the period biden's presidency, somewhere they at...
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approximately 9.5 million received illegals through this hole on the southern border received some illegals and this is biden's immigration policy - this is his highest place, of all there, you know, they evaluate his economic things, yes, only 25% of americans support biden's immigration policy, against the background of these allah-akbarites who are currently running around the world, you know that there is simply an increase in anti-immigration sentiments, and the democrats must take this into account, the republicans feel that they have an opportunity now to push this issue, but the republicans perfectly understand the price of not supporting ukraine and even more so israel, so what is happening now, they tried, the democrats tried to introduce a bill that does not include this issue of border arrangement, this for this package didn't get enough votes to even...
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debate, 49 votes for debate, 51 against, with two democrats voting against, one technically, as they say, the card didn't vote, and the other sander is such a... interesting personality in stories of american democracy, he is a democrat , but in fact he is a chegovorovite, a marxist, a leninist, such, but also a billionaire who tried to become president several times, so we have passed this stage where i see some compensators, as viktor yushenko once said, where we find these compensators there, in what is happening, in my opinion, on your channel, it was also in the news feed that they agreed on the joint production of weapons. i read that the white house appointed a special representative to our ministry of strategic industries or something, well previously it was a ministry that dealt with the military industry, and this is actually a very unusual event, because well, it was a dream, in particular mine,
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volodymyr ogrysko, ex-minister of foreign affairs, and i, when we were in nako several years ago, tried very hard to convince the american ambassador and representatives of the state department that joint projects should be established. together with ukraine, because we have a huge potential of the military industry, when we were there to show some of our factories , which are engaged in the production of helicopters there and sold parts to china, well, when we spoke with the representatives of these parties, they said, well, what should we do, we have one market, we have a market there, russia and china, the americans don't let us into their market, the nativs don't let us into their market, what should we do just to collapse the production, well, besides these ... such obvious problems, there was the main problem - this is the problem of trust, this is the transfer of technology, and now for the second day i hear that it is about the transfer of technology, that we are redesigning our launchers, but there is a moment, we don't have that much time, do we we understand, so we will need money, quickly
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and in large quantities, and we will specifically need weapons, because while we are adjusting production, the few billion dollars that are left at the bottom of the american... aid cube will run out, yes, well , actually , with what we will enter, if the new year is not too favorable, well , first of all, that we are there somewhere, well , let's be honest, we will still be there until the end of january, yes, well, on average, we will not die of hunger , secondly, sharply increase activity european partners, not americans, and we also see this from the side of the germans, and from the side of the netherlands, and from the side. well, the poles , by the way, too, they and the hungarians, the hungarians simply have different initiatives, different activities happen, so to speak, on the part of the european union, it is clear that everything is not so simple, well, but, well, no, it is not
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the poles who are delaying our military aid , well, again, i look at how ours already made me smile, how ours began to drive trucks along the railway like this. and there is still a week left to change the government, i.e., a lot will change for us by the new year, but even the pentagon has its fire extinguishers, remember the story when the pentagon calculated something there, says: oh, yes, we estimated something wrong here, we still have 6 billion in reserve, this a little more, that is, we, i, to the point that we will not have a break, there will not be this famine that they are threatening us with, there will not be a military famine, this does not mean that we are relaxing, but, well, it is difficult, it is almost impossible to imagine that in reality, american lawmakers will simply accept and refuse military aid to ukraine, israel, and taiwan, that is, most likely, and
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this is hinted at and said, i even read somewhere that there are already signals from the white house that the democrats are also ready to make certain concessions, in particular, it is said that let's... .. for these, well, conditional mexicans who come from that side, let's have their applications for political asylum processed from that side, not run here, that they are already on the territory of the united states, and that would be an option that is acceptable to the republicans, there used to be such a scheme, it was just her, then her held by trump, but the democrats softened it, so they have to come to an agreement, they just have to come to an agreement, certain concessions are needed from the side. procedural moment: the fact that the president of ukraine , volodymyr zelenskyy, should have joined and did not join this rather heated american political party. on the one hand, we understand that it is unlikely that he achieved anything, on the other hand, if it was already planned, then it was worth talking, or what? yes, bis
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knows him, you understand, i think that he mainly relied on the opinion of our embassy and our ambassador markarova, which obviously i had information that in... they did not agree, if the president undertakes something, then there must be a result, whether we are talking about a speech, or we are talking about a trip there, let's say the president, it happened once, it is putin. the legs of yanukovych's veterans, when yanukovych went to moscow, he told all of ukraine that i would bring a normal agreement, the price of gas there and returned empty -handed, well, before it was equated to a declaration of war, you can't humiliate the heads of state like that, so rather than all this absolutely this information about the fact that they did not agree on what republicans will not vote not because of ukraine, but because there is no question of theirs there, and probably the advice was to wait until they reach some kind of compromise, i will not comment on it otherwise, and if i were there, relatively speaking
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, i would there is some voice or influence, i also would not advise our president to go to an event that will definitely end in failure, but to convince our american partners, yes, well, we understand that something must be done, we understand that the republican-democratic confrontation, it will continue because america is entering the the election regime is starting... the niva movement of our delegations, we are starting to be included in the work mode accelerated, we are starting to try to work with the americans, but the problem is not there, i did not see the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine during another visit of our high-ranking officials. these are amazing features of how the ukrainian government is organized, and it is very difficult to perceive in the white house, i have already said about it that zelenskyi has been explained more than once... that there should be a functional government in ukraine, that there should
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be an executive power , and the executive center authorities, this is not bankova street, this is not yermak and yarmachat, but this is the prime minister, ministers, in particular, foreign policy - this is the ministry of foreign affairs, when there are any deputies of yarmak talking about what they say is written in the constitution , that the president changes foreign policy, it is written that way, and in order for him to carry it out. his foreign policy, he appoints and dismisses the minister of foreign affairs, this is separately provided for in the constitution, so when there are ministries of foreign affairs, no deputies of yermak or yermaks can replace it, that’s it wildness, and i don't know what kind of words zelensky needs to explain it, and here is weakness, if you ask me what needs to be done, now zelensky needs to demonstrate that he understands it. and it is necessary to steer clear of the situation with the military and
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it is necessary to demonstrate this unity, this is what zelensky can do, he can show that they understood the depth of the problems and the depth of the threats , the question of releasing all these shurs and tatars has long been raised, well, this is what we are talking about, this is what i am talking about americans frankly said that it was it was almost not agreed, but it was before the beginning of the israeli war, i don’t know why... it is being delayed, but now, when we are already being pushed, the truth must be determined by ukraine, whether dear friends, this is some kind of reincarnation of these dear friends, the issue is actually very serious, it cannot be, and this is certainly known to our european and american partners, that is why zelensky will have to make this decision, if you ask me what to do, now we need to demonstrate the ability to fulfill promises, when they wrote us a letter from white house, three months were around... according to me, i expected that these three months would end sometime in january, and there were very specific things,
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including anti-corruption, other things, i think it was in the middle of december, god willing, we will receive an invitation before the start of negotiations, but it will be like this, the champagne was uncorked and the work will continue to be endless and there will be endless problems, and with such a structure of power , these problems are absolutely impossible to solve, so life just pushes us there... it just pushes us, what if we if we have to survive, the first can be done easily to predict that everything will be fine, the worst is ahead, this is my favorite saying, yushchenko always said it, but we need to prepare for this, it will not be easy for us in the future, in order to be able to solve all these problems, we need a sustainable, sustainable the government and the support of society and coherence and of course the absence of systemic corruption, which... is limited to banking, and these situations are described by fellow journalists almost every week, and that is why we are then surprised that
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the theme is walking around on the defense, and they say it must be refuted somehow. well, there is a tactical one history, this is the dismissal or resignation of fedor venislavskyi, the president's representative in the verkhovna rada from his post. venislavskyi said that he simply does not charge because it is a committee and there are many additional cases, but we understand that it is fedir venislavskyi who is active. and openly criticized maryana bezoglu, who in turn criticized the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, general valery zalulnyi, and we understand that this story just... from time to time coincides with the processes you talked about, in particular, it is about the american certain decisions. the president's representative in the verkhovna rada appeared on the airwaves several times, and he pleasantly impressed me with his intelligence, wit and europeanness. well, that's why if you take him and maryana, they are just opposites. and
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again, if you take him and yermak, they are also antipodes. therefore, most likely, it is not so much zelenskyi’s decision, i think, as what andriy whispered there again, but it indicates that there is no understanding of the seriousness of the situation, it indicates that the forces of good are winning, the wrong people are being released now, and and these are very wrong signals, and and and simply, in fact, it does not facilitate the situation with communications at all, sends a not... the right signal to the same parliament and drives zelensky into an even bigger corner again, because such things are read as you and i , most likely, western analysts will analyze that a person simply recognized the inadmissibility of direct conflicts between the president and, let's say , the military, and for this, for the right things, well
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, this reminds me of the story with our ambassador in great britain, for example, this is this is a sad story for of president zelenskyi, this is great a sad personnel story, which suggests that this construction , which zelensky has molded into a powerful one, which rests only on a few of his advisers, and through them others, depending on loyalty, either get or lose positions, is not moving in the right direction, but which people get positions, that's what the biguz agency did together with the movement honestly. they recently conducted an analysis of many of yermak's advisers and the situation there is simply wild and it is clear that the further it goes, the more attention will be paid to it, all the same, decisions will have to be made, but why to launch so much, we already don't have time, as you and i understand, we need quick actions, quick decisions and we need to restore trust, we understand that there is a supreme
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commander, there is a commander -in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, there are relevant generals who are in charge. .. by directions, types of troops and so on and so on, this whole thing should demonstrate, well, monolithicity, we understand that there can be discussions, there can be complex discussions, emotional and so on, but in the west we need certain such impulses that would demonstrated, the ukrainian elite military-political is cemented, first of all it is necessary to clearly understand that for the military, for the military, action is absolutely unacceptable. you are not hierarchical, that is, relatively speaking, you cannot talk to a subordinate through the head of the commander, it is simply excluded altogether, and therefore, when there is information in the press that, for example, the president communicates with some deputies, the commander-in-chief, heads of clans troops, without his knowledge, this is
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an absolutely wild, unacceptable situation, and the ukrainian military understands this, and this is exactly understood in the west. with such methods of communication it will be impossible to talk about successes, i think that this will be one of the conditions for continuing support to ukraine and providing ukraine with modern types of weapons and planning further on the next offensive, this will be the very solution to this issue, as most likely we we will see you there in public, well, zelensky can say that he does not like it when he is attacked. are pressing, but here the question is not about who loves whom, here the question is about whether or not there will be ukraine, and i know that the west can communicate like this, in its i have repeatedly witnessed such very tough, direct conversations, and the ukrainian authorities will have to be ready for this, if we want, and what's more, we demand such a level of cooperation and support, then we
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have to adjust all our wheels so that we ran away like a smuggler's clock, not squeaking like the old one. wheels , but please elaborate, please, here are the stories you just mentioned, the way the west, for example, can put pressure on one or another of our presidents or i don't know, prime ministers, how it happens, there are several levels , first ambassadors work there, the ambassadors have contact there, if we are talking about political forces, let's say it was the motherland, our ukraine, there are other political forces there, the ambassadors meet with representatives of each of these political forces and talk about the need for cooperation. well, in general terms, no one there is literally pressuring you so much that we tell you that you have to do this and that, in a situation when there was a threat of the disintegration of the orange coalition, my phone just kept breaking, because i was constantly on my mobile phone yakuza with the state department, the traitors of the president
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of the united states, who simply persuaded, urged to preserve the coalition, but then it was already too late, by then, between the politicians tymoshenko and yushchenko , the entire territory was simply burned, bridges were torn down, and they did not want to work, by the way, the price , the price... we are paying enough, if there was no disintegration of the orange coalition then, if the tymoshenko-yushchenko alliance was preserved, there would be no yanukovych, but that is already history, but i was just a witness, i tell you that i know how it's being done, but i still know what's going on direct telephone conversations between the president and the president or an adviser to the president, and there are people there, each president is surrounded by some adequate people, there are... the ministry of foreign affairs, there are communication channels, but there are also direct ones. the whole world is talking with the ukrainian president, but yesterday we
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saw a video online conference of zelenskyi with the leaders of the seven, it is an extremely powerful tool, it was a closed conference, you and i do not know what they talked about there, but i know that they can literally talk there such words, calling for unity, for a demonstration of singing. before and i already saw that in the ukrainian information space there was talk of the fact that the tension is decreasing, well, everything has passed, the page has been turned, we continue to work, because we have a common big goal, i think that you and i will see each other in the new year more joint greetings, and somewhere all these faraway people will begin to turn us back, they already reassured us before, we just did not believe in their reassurance, zelensky needs to demonstrate... certain steps, no matter what wanted, but it is necessary to demonstrate steps and in no way, in no way try to
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create problems with the military now in the middle of such a decisive stage in the war, the military do not deserve this and do not like it very much. no, it's just that when you mentioned the orange coalition, its disintegration and so on, that is, there were forces that worked separately for viktor andriyovych and for yulia volodymyrivna, and this whole thing could not stick together, because... the one constantly appeared or another contractor, we are now seeing blatantly paid manipulative articles that appear in some or other semi-respectable western media, and we also see a certain synchronization, certain things are thrown in there that we cannot verify, we understand that if they refer to anonymous sources that say some absolutely mind-blowing unworldly things, well, very often a corresponding suspicion arises , but people, all politicians, they are emotional people, generals are emotional, everyone is emotional. everyone is on their nerves and it is clear why, well, the price is very high, and here something like this appears, this is part of that campaign, you probably remember us, the president also talked about us there is some kind of maidan 3, anti-maidan 3, that is, our
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intelligence warned that somewhere in the region of 1.5 billion funds were being prepared, which will now be carried away, well, it is carried away, so it should not be an indicator of the authenticity of the problems for us, the real problems that there are us, they can be completely different. from what we read about in these mass media, well , this is already frank information that this is part of a hybrid war, and we, for example, i have already set my, i don't know, my brain, this critical component to the fact that whatever - which one the information just needs to be defended first, then checked and then you will see what is true and what is not true, but i think that ukrainian society is not very good at such things, i recently had a conversation with the military who are in the trenches there, both me and them i was just told that they react very, they turn out to be very painful, those who react painfully, whose psyche suffers, these are
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the soldiers who read their father's stuff, there is also the internet, they say, i was surprised, they say, we are all relatives we find a place, we transfer it to each other on the internet, and when they hear about these reductions in weapons, there is also information about these scandals, about threats of some resignations, then it is very depressing. precisely those people who should simply fight with a firm conviction that they have a competent government and that the world is with them, but they are suffering. thank you, mr. olezh, for this extremely important and interesting conversation, i want to remind our tv viewers that oleg rybachuk, former deputy prime minister for european integration of ukraine, former chief of office of viktor yushchenko, was working for them on the air of the tv channel, well and co-founder chesno movement. every day, every hour, every minute we receive a large amount of information. the most anticipated event of the year, what is actually happening at the front, what are the casualties?
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vacation trains and these trains went through kyiv to the west, a lot of people went to the carpathians, everyone understood that the carpathians are far away, and the chance of rockets arriving there is very small, there we met maria for the first time, you can't drive here with an ordinary car, a shelter is a shelter, it's a shelter from a disaster, it's a shelter from genocide, it's preservation, it's preservation of oneself in order to preserve the future. no, it is the preservation of others who, together with you, will rebuild this future. we have to be strong, i tell myself this every day, and so that we can help others. events, events that are happening right now and affect our lives. of course, the news feed reports about them, but
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now a member of the russian opposition in emigration, will work on the air of the tv channel. iconic video blogger, glory to ukraine, mark , i congratulate you, heroes, glory, i am glad to welcome you anton, i am glad to welcome all the viewers, i wanted to ask you about putin, that is , putin, such an impression was resuscitated politically from this refrigerator, where he was put by professor solovei, so now putin speaks at the g20, then time magazine started a little, so to speak say consider his candidacy as person of the year and so on. mark, what do you think is happening now in the macro-political space? well, you know, several factors have come together here, and we must soberly state that indeed, ah , putin, well, today, here, he is using to the maximum all the opportunities provided to him, in particular, what, the fact that the counteroffensive did not reach its results, did not go to the borders between the two fronts, eastern and southern, and at the same time to the sea, did not liberate a number of cities.
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