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objection, because it is more expensive, although it is based on domestic components, so i think there are also challenges here that need to be, well, avoided considering the fact that we need both those and other things, thank you mr. sergey, well now is a moment of silence, let's honor with a moment of silence the memory of the ukrainian military and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war that was... unleashed by russia.
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greetings to all viewers of radio svoboda, this is svoboda ranok, my name is kateryna nekrecha, and further in this episode we will talk about important topics. today, the president of ukraine will meet with the american leader, joe biden. is on a visit to the usa and has already spoken with the head of the pentagon, who assured that the usa is determined to deter russia from any further aggression. what decisions will be made and whether zelensky will convince the americans to unblock aid to ukraine. the leaders of the hungarian community of transcarpathia appeal to the prime minister of hungary, viktor orban, with a call to support ukraine's european integration. for the first time since the beginning of the great war, minister of foreign affairs kuleba met with hungarian colleague sijarto, is he waiting for the relations between ukraine and hungary? capture and whether
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orban will ultimately support ukraine's european integration. the russian military set up a flag on the southwestern outskirts of maryinka in donetsk region. the institute for the study of war says that they have slightly advanced into the city itself. the ukrainian general staff reported 50 attacks on the positions of the armed forces around avdiyivka. what is the situation in the tavri direction? we are talking about this with the military. every weekday morning from 9:00 a.m., we talk about the situation in ukraine, about the events at the front. stay with us, or to be informed, comment on this video. russian forces have partial success in the southern part of maryinka. this is reported by analysts of the deep state project. in addition, they say that the situation continues to deteriorate south of the city near novomykhaivka. and russian convoys are allegedly entering the eastern outskirts of this village, you are reporting this. the american institute for the study of war says that russian forces continue their offensive to the southwest of donetsk and are advancing. there. meanwhile
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, russian pro-war telegram channels sladkov, kot newz and others write that the capture of maryinka by russian forces is not far off, although they call it liberation and report fighting on the alleged western outskirts of the city, saying that only a few houses in this part of the city are under the control of the armed forces. this weekend, russian media showed a video of a flag being erected in the supposedly southern outskirts of maryinka, although similar media had already reported on it earlier this month. in particular, on december 1, the russian military telegram channels romanof life two majors and mash reported that they had full control of the russian army over marinka, and as evidence they showed a video of the soviet flag hanging on buildings in the supposedly western outskirts of the city, and the telegram channel mash even showed footage where the soldiers of the 103rd regiment of the russian army claimed to take maryinka under their control. in the armed forces of ukraine, then these statements were denied, the spokesman of the defense of the tavrya direction, the spokesman of the force.
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direction oleksandr shtupun then called these reports about the capture of marinka literal lies. currently, the ukrainian general staff says that the defense forces are holding the enemy back in the vicinity of maryinka, novomykhaivka and krasnohorivka. and in a day, they repelled 12 attacks by russian troops near these settlements. i noted that the russian ministry of defense does not make statements about the advance of russian forces in maryanka. serhiy volkov, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, joins our broadcast. sergey, congratulations. thank you for joining. congratulations. glory to ukraine. kudos to the heroes, can you tell us what is happening in marinka, and is it true that part of the city is already controlled by russian forces? well, actually, it's adjacent, let's say a sector, but, nevertheless, we communicate with brothers and units. yes, what can i say, in fact, maryinka is also there, well, you can see it in the footage, and she has been there for a long time.
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from such a solid suburb of donetsk turned into a pile of construction debris, let's say so, yes, within the framework... and it is very difficult to gain a foothold there, that is why our fighters, the enemy, so we can talk about successes in maryanka itself, well, there is no content, because as they can, let's say, come in, hang up their rags and get on nuts, we don't advance there either, we hold them back, so that they do not move on, that is why there is no such, in my opinion, global significance with their rags, here the key task is to restrain them and in any case to be
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close to donetsk, because one way or another marinka, avdiivka are two two, well, one gate, let's say one gate. next to donetsk and their non-republic there, so their task is to push us away as much as possible, our task is to restrain them and grind it as much as possible, that's why it's difficult to say anything here , because the fighting is going on and the general staff will already make the decision public there, that's why the situation... it is as it was, but they are storming, i don’t know what it is connected with, they are storming along the entire line, and they are trying, well, they went so actively, they are with armored vehicles, with infantry, or for some holidays or some, i don't know, tasks
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are completed, but they die in a very large number and instantly. serhiy, in the british intelligence of the day we talked about the fact that the offensive... the operations of russia in the marinka region are part of the autumn offensive of the occupiers with the aim of expanding control over the rest of the donetsk region, can you agree with this here, well, in fact in any there advancement whether along maryanka or ugledar or avdiivka or there from bakhmut, all this is their global plan in order to press and get out. well, conditionally in the direction of the dnipro, they do not change these plans, they act systematically , with great losses, but they act and, although, despite their statements there a year ago,
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that they are there, well, very quickly they will enter and pass, say, there to pavlograd. well, it turned out to be delusional delusional by them, well, let's say , they give off, they give out what they want for real, it won't be an easy walk, it's serious, a fierce fight for every scrap , and we are in defense, let's say, it's a little bit easier for us , but here there are different, let's say, factors for their deterrence, there is also the presence of a bull, personnel, well, in general, weather conditions, and equipment, and so on , that is, it can be seen that they have been accumulating this fighting fist for a long time and
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are probing us from different sides in order to capture at least some populated place, well , conditionally a populated place, because they don't have any of them, and this concerns including maryenka, uglidar, and avdiivka. serhiy, speaking of avdiivka, can you tell us what is happening there, there was information that russian forces advanced there to the sewage treatment facilities south of krasnohorivka, it is 5 km northwest of avdiivka, if i am not mistaken, what can you tell us about the situation now around avdiivka? well, actually the situation is complicated, to put it roughly. the second month started from october 10, from their active first active assault, now in fact there is already the third phase, and they are pressing, so pressing in the direction of the factory ee in the direction of the steppe and from below in the direction
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pervomaiky, trying to enter the positions on foot. who can be there temporarily, well , that is, let's say, we protect the infantry and no, we don't send people just to hold the trench, and they are that. fucking with pleasure to say the least, but with great losses they are still driving their infantry forward, so the situation has not changed fundamentally, but it is clear that they are regrouping, it is clear that they are not changing their plans and are essentially pressing on the avdiivka from three sides, as well as logistics they want. in fact, even even from four ee cut like that and press on the forehead from
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the side of clarifying, the situation is not easy, but nevertheless - if you read their public telegrams there, they constantly throw in that everything, we are already here, we, we, well, that brigade left there, and the brigade left, that is, a lot of ipso, but we are standing. and we hold positions, it is very difficult, they are outnumbered, but we use various tricks there, drones, artillery and other interesting things that reduce their population, well, in the future of the russian federation, let's say this, i thank you for joining us, i understand what you mean it is very difficult, you describe it so very correctly and... gently, but if you read between the lines and try to listen, it
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is clear that the situation is difficult, really taking into account what, with what resource, and what you say about the fact that the russian forces really want to actively behave in the tavry direction now and there, we spoke with serhii volkov, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, about the situation in maryinka and avdiivka, thank you for joining the meeting on the air. we will continue this broadcast, then we will talk about zelenskyi's visit to the usa, volodymyr zelenskyi, he once again rejected, by the way , the possibility of negotiations with russian president putin, he said this in an interview with the latin american zmi, he said that putin does not need peace in ukraine. how can i negotiate with putin, let's forget for a second that he is a murderer, with the russian side, how can i negotiate with him about people who are in some... some towns, villages, who live there, who were occupied, and sit here two people or two
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teams say, listen, let them yours, who are we? in 2014, when russia occupied parts of donbas, putin, as zelensky says, declared that he was not going to go to full-scale war against ukraine, they say, then putin justified himself by saying that, i quote, he was allegedly helping russian-speakers, but then... happened full-scale invasion, everything he says is false, because he is not interested in an independent ukraine. here is the answer for you, and this is a fact, he needs ukraine, as a part, an enclave of the russian federation, if he did with belarus, what he did with moldova, what he did with georgia, everywhere, as with us, a captured part of an integral territory in moldova. transnistria, in georgia, abkhazia, in ukraine , donbass and crimea, so that there is no
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stability, and further a country in which there is no stability, no investments, no life, then the society will be dissatisfied and already because time to come and take over completely, that's what he's doing, ukraine is just a big country. let me remind you that at the extraordinary j20 online summit in november , putin stated that russia would never... from peace talks with ukraine, according to his words, it is ukraine that announced its exit from the negotiation process. instead, analysts of the american institute for the study of war write in one of the latest reports that russia has no intention of conducting serious negotiations with ukraine in an atmosphere of goodwill. later in this broadcast, we will talk with yevhen dyky, an expert, an internationalist, a learned veteran of the aidar battalion. yevgeny, thank you for joining, i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. glory is a hero, and i will emphasize that we... will now talk about, including zelenskyi's meeting with biden and the visit zelenskyi such a more military part,
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later we will talk about the political part of this visit, but i would like to start with, in your opinion, at what point in general negotiations with russia could hypothetically take place, how realistic it is and in what case of war end precisely with negotiations at the negotiating table, wars end with negotiations at the table. there are always negotiations, but these negotiations are very different, they can be negotiations about a compromise, and they can be negotiations about capitulation, and putin on today absolutely clearly... articulates that he is ready to negotiate our capitulation, well, fortunately we are not ready, and in fact, there are no grounds for negotiating our capitulation yet , but instead, in fact, what was voted for we would like to talk, that, well, we will call a spade a spade, from the point of view of the russian kremlin regime, we would also like to talk
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about their capitulation, another thing is that the capitulation that putin wants from us involves... the actual liquidation of ukraine in general as a state, ukraine as independent countries. the capitulation we want from the russians is much more modest. we do not impose any, let's say, conditions, at least, for now, about what and how they should do in themselves. but, of course, we categorically demand that, at least from our territory , they should all be removed. ot. to date, the positions of the parties, as we can see, are diametrically opposed. that is, in fact, both we and the russians are ready to talk. russians about the capitulation of ukraine, ukrainians about the de facto capitulation, at least of the russian occupation contingent. however, none of the parties have not yet secured themselves the physical opportunity to insist on such negotiations, and negotiations on a compromise in our situation are practically impossible. compromise is possible when there is some
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controversial issue, but when the controversial issue is simply to exist in our state or not to exist, this... is not the field where compromises are possible, here we can only quote our compatriot, kiyanka goldumeyer, who time was in a very similar situation and said that the jewish people actually want to live in israel, and their enemies want them all died, and this leaves very little room for compromise, but we have exactly the same situation , so it is absolutely premature to talk about peace talks, because in such a war , peace talks are possible when one... of the parties clearly wins, and even better, when it has already clearly won, and then the conditions after the military settlement are simply being discussed, but so far none of the parties has won, none of the parties has yet received, let's say, a sufficiently firm position to categorically insist on their version of the negotiations, and in this situation too
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it is important not to rely on what russia is offering in this situation, namely some victories... about suspending the conflict, freezing the conflict and a temporary ceasefire. the fact is that, since we know that russia's goals have not changed, and russia's goal is, in this sense, by the way, it is very useful sometimes to be interested in what they are communicating to their internal audience, so for their internal audience they are absolutely do not hide that the goal of this war is the final solution of the ukrainian question, as they call it... they use the final solution exactly in the sense in which adolf hitler spoke about the final solution of the jewish question, and this goal has not changed at all, they do not hide it, and therefore any negotiations that they are now trying to impose on us about temporary freezing of the conflict, they are connected precisely with the fact that they need a pause
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in order to regroup their forces, in order to renew their forces and, as a result, still press their ... this basic goal, that is , liquidation, and what will happen next year , which will be next year, considering there publication of the wall street journal, which wrote that ukraine will probably not be able to advance until 2025, we heard yesterday at zelenskyi’s meeting there with lloyd austin, for example, austin said there that we are determined to deter russia from any further aggression, deter, next year will be a year of restraint, aid will be provided only for the purpose of restraint, in fact, if next year will be a year of restraint, then... the 25th year may well be a year of unrestrained russian offensive, this must also be understood, and this austin's position, the position of the white house, this is generally one of our key problems, well , it's just time to come to terms with it, it's time to solve this problem ourselves, because i 'm afraid that we won't get any more from the white house than we already have we have, the key
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problem here is precisely that during this entire war, joe biden never once... said the phrase victory of ukraine. not once have we heard the phrase "defeat russia" from biden. they always want to restrain her. well, the russians actually use it perfectly, because it's too early to hold back too late the russians understand very well that democracy is tired, especially from wars that are not on their territory. democracies are sick of spending taxpayers' money on something that can last forever. and here... the deterrence strategy, it is absolutely deeply wrong, it comes from a misunderstanding of russia and the russian regime, but unfortunately, i see that we cannot do anything about it, the west simply does not want to. understand exactly what putin's russia is, what it is ready for, what it is ready to sacrifice in particular. biden's entire strategy from the beginning is based on the fact that there is a concept of an acceptable and
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unacceptable price for russia. and so it is necessary that russia eventually come to the point that the price of this war becomes unacceptable and will continue to negotiate. and this is not the case. the kremlin regime sees this war as an existential one. they don't see it 's worth. either it costs as much as that, we are ready to pay as much as we are not ready to pay. they see this situation as absolutely binary, either the master or the missing person, or they really love the soviet heritage, but in the old soviet there was this moment in the comedy, when i take him back to the prosecutor, the putin regime sees the picture exactly like this: either they are in kyiv and lviv as winners, or they are in the gas as underdogs, and at the same time they still have to live to see that in russians... not necessarily, they see it this way, and that is why for them there is no concept of an unacceptable price, in order to survive, you know, you will pay any price, but the white house does not want to understand this at all, and we have to leave from
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this reality, we need to add those elements that are not added to us, and this is our year the 24th, not the 25th, right here all street journal, with all due respect to them, but these are the same analysts who two years ago gave us three weeks, these are the same analysts who two years ago argued, we're going to be partisan in occupied ukraine, shall we not surprise them again if necessary , let's say what ukraine can do, because zelensky in the usa is once again declaring the importance of the joint production of artillery ammunition there, we have already heard about air defense systems there, and about some plans there , but we don't know the details, could it be that indeed, there ukraine will simply establish production with western countries and this will strengthen it, or what should happen, what ukraine can do. formulated differently: either ukraine will establish this production on its own and in cooperation with western companies, or in the 25th year putin will start to win. so, here it is necessary to clearly understand that
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putin has an absolutely clear strategy for the 25th year, it is based on their deep belief in the second coming, as they call it so very tenderly, trumps, they are absolutely convinced that the 24th year is simple enough for them hold on, and... and the west will get tired, and we will be exhausted when trying to de-occupy the territories, they will hold the occupied territories, destroy our forces, maybe even advance a little somewhere, but within the borders of the donetsk region, let's say, then trump comes, they stop supplying us with weapons and bc, and since then in the 25th they come back, their whole strategy is based on this, and that's why, i'm sorry, the wall street journal article sounds very funny , the 25th year, it's just not our year anymore, it's putin's year, the 24th. we have to use precisely in order to take advantage of the current weakness of russia, it is actually now in a weak position, here again we need to understand for a second, let's just look
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at the general picture, we are not drinking coffee in a christmas tree now, as some carelessly promised us, the fact that we don't drink coffee in the christmas tree, the swing went in the opposite direction, that everything disappeared, the offensive failed, that's it, listen, let's actually remember, less than two years ago... we were given three weeks. currently , the russian federation is very proud that it was able to to restrain our offensive, that is, we changed roles in general, if no one noticed. so, the so-called second army of the world presents as its huge achievement that they, so be it, restrained the khakhlyat pressure, and so be it, they did not let them be thrown over the edge, and in order to accomplish this enormous feat, they had to carry out the largest mobilization since the second world war. by the way, i checked the sources, none of the soldiers were afghans. neither chechnya, nor any other, nor the soviet union, nor russia ever mobilized even, well, even close such a number of people, but only in the second world war more were mobilized, but everything
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after that was much less, so the second mobilization after the world war, and they delayed our advance anyway, that is, to put it mildly, this is not a bad situation for us , we just need to press on, but this is partly in the hands of biden, because our iron depends on him, and the adjustment of our production is still... a task for the 24th year, so that at the end of the 24th we are not so interested, trump was elected there, or biden was elected there, that is so that we no longer depend on it, and in my opinion this is a formidable task, although it is very difficult and difficult, yevgeny, i thank you, later on the air we will talk about the political aspect of zelennya's visit, all 30 seconds, but still in the first in turn, it depends on the ukrainians, because we have to provide the people, the iron is biden, and the people are us, so it depends on how in the winter the ukrainian... society will solve the issue of mobilization or not, it completely depends on this, in 24- next year, do we advance and take out the russians, or do we simply stand in the way defense and we are waiting for the 25th year with putin's
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plan. yevgeny, i thank you very much, such a balance of opinions, because we also have international opinions from these publications , including, yes, your opinions were heard, thank you for that, yevhen dyka, an international expert, a scholar veteran of the aidar battalion, was as a guest of svoboda ranok, the united states, together with its allies , will help ukraine create forces capable of restraining russia in the coming years, pentagon chief lloyd austin said, whose words were quoted by the department's press service after a meeting with president zelenskyi. and we all are must decide where we stand. therefore, we are determined to help ukraine fight for the protection of its territory and its citizens, we are determined to deter russia from any further aggression, including against our nato allies. and we are determined to show the world that america will not flinch in defending our freedom. zelensky himself wrote on social networks.
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said that at the us defense university, he , along with secretary austin and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general charles brown, discussed the situation at the front and challenges for global security. in addition, as the ukrainian president reported, he also had a meeting with the heads of us defense companies and zelenskyi says that quote: it is important to develop the joint production of artillery ammunition, air defense systems, artillery and missile systems. putin creates his own ideology, and his goal - and the essence of this ideology - is complete contempt for human life, for freedom and contempt for any borders between countries, between people, even between truth and lies. he spreads his ideology among allies, even here in america, his weapons against you at the moment are propaganda and disinformation, and as soon as he sees a chance to use those weapons,
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he will... move forward. zelenskyi is scheduled to meet with us president joseph biden at the white house and with congress leaders today. earlier , the media reported that biden invited zelensky to emphasize the unwavering commitment of the united states in supporting the people of ukraine. as noted by cnn , zelenskyi's visit to washington is his third since full-scale russian invasion of ukraine, and it is unlikely to change the already cemented dynamic in washington, where republicans, even those who support additional funding for ukraine. unwilling to do more, at least until democrats and the white house agree on policy changes on the us southern border. i would like to remind you that earlier reuters, with reference to its sources, wrote that the administration of us president joe biden is ready to make concessions on the issue of strengthening border security in order to ensure the approval of the bill, where it is, in particular, about providing new aid to ukraine and israel. i would like to add that the usa has been unable to approve president biden's request for additional funding for several weeks
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. this document provides assistance to ukraine, israel, and taiwan. the republican party is ready to support a package of funding for ukraine's defense needs, but after the democrats of the american support, and also why exactly, uh, this, needs to be done right now, yes, that is, hearing that, say, those statements, which came from some members of the administration, that... without american help , ukraine can lose this war, that they are not exaggerating. if we also note that zelenskyi's visit began yesterday and he initially met with the military, in your opinion, this is an important moment and whether these plans are precisely with the us military, for example, there was talk of the production of joint weapons there for air defense, can such agreements be strong? strong and lasting, despite the results of the
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us elections next year? well, look, it depends , really.

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