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we aim to defeat russia in the air, to destroy russia's dominance in the air, this will help intensify our ground advance in 2024, whoever controls the skies controls the duration of the war. zelensky still hopes that american congressmen will approve the aid package for ukraine, but they have little time on thursday , the last session day for american congressmen and beyond. they are going on christmas vacation. andriy borys, vyacheslav filyushkin, voice of america. but to analyze these statements and the meeting, the effectiveness, what was agreed upon, we will talk about it further, pavlo klimkin, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 14-19 years, joins our broadcast. pavle, i welcome you to our broadcast, thank you for joining. greetings to all, friends. what are your conclusions after this meeting of joseph biden with... volodymyr zelensky after the public
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speeches of the leaders of the states and taking into account the information from your sources and contacts in the usa. well i'm actually drawing conclusions as others will in a few weeks as there are a lot of announcements after the meetings and it's such a good story but we always judge by results, politics is about results, not statements. and i feel from the mood in washington that they will be able to find a compromise, whether they will be able to do it in the next few days, and the vote will take place before christmas, whether it will take place immediately after christmas, that is a question for congress, for the negotiators, but a large part of the democrats, as on me, also understands not only the necessity, but also the importance.
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mission regarding the southern border, where, by the way, one of the reasons for the low approval ratings of biden's activities is the concern of americans, crime and proliferation drugs, and a lot of people have a strong feeling that it's directly related to the southern border, so the trade-off is whether it's going to be in the next... few days, whether it's going to be right after christmas, i think it 's about a 50-50 chance , what my american friends tell me, but at the same time, congress will then vote both our and israel's aid. well, please note that now not only our aid is actually blocked, but also israeli aid, that is, all talk about the israeli security model for...
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ukraine, in my opinion, is completely devoid of sense, because the israeli model, it somehow does not work for israel at all. some observers say that it is not as critical for israel as it is for ukraine. yes, this is a completely different, different nature of war, but nevertheless, israel needs help, it is needed as a political signal, because now there are differences and... in tactics and in strategy, they are already visible, they are obvious between the american and israeli leadership, there is a feeling in western countries as well, but in fact primarily in non-western countries, that israel is currently struggling, there are obviously differences in vision, and we all also paid attention to other words of biden, when he says that ukraine... will be in nato, but we have to
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be convinced of the victory of ukraine, and this statement, in my opinion, leaves room, i would call it strategic uncertainty, that is, the united states leaves quite deliberately room for definition and even interpretation, and what is victory and what will happen next, because for us victory is liberation. of our people, the liberation of our territories, i understand, this is the elimination of any threat from russia, and not only the possibility of protection, and of course not according to the israeli model, and advancement as a democratic state to the west, that is , our full integration into the western structures in the eu and nato, of course with our own voice, the definition that... was given by the president of the united states,
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it is strategic , in the sense of direction, of course, coincides with ours, but here there are also several fundamental differences. the devil is in the details in this sense, even more than in the details, here it is exactly this, this is a well-known, well-known definition, the well-known expression the devil is in the details, here it is actually not only about the details, here and about fundamental disagreements, i specially emphasized this in our vision, we heard biden during his approach to the press , public speeches with journalists , communication, he put a lot of responsibility on the republic. who are blocking aid to ukraine, but whether they are discussing in the us in political circles, in the white house, including among democrats, such mistakes in the approaches of president biden to the full-scale invasion of russia in ukraine, to the failure to provide ukraine with all the necessary means
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in time for the offensive there including, for example, there is an approach to the prohibition of hitting military facilities directly on the territory of russia with western weapons, such an analysis is taking place now, is there any change here or not? is not discussed publicly, and you will not see such an analysis, and as we have already studied american politics, and this affects many ukrainians, and everyone understands that there are different wings among the republicans, well , there are also among the democrats, it’s just that there are many of us does not talk about it, and we also remember the letter that was sent last year, regarding our... help, actually the letter that put under issue from the left wing of the democrats, that is , it's also like the unity of the democratic party, like the solidarity within the party, in particular, when the campaign starts, it's not a simple issue, and
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all the conversations around the southern border, our israeli aid, they're important to the democrats, the administration. in the context of preserving the unity of the party, likewise today i do not see any conscious or significant public discussion on the issue of the mistakes of this administration, well, plus the mentality, the mentality of american security policy, which is, and how prevent escalation and how to keep the whole process, i would say, under control. not managed, as some say, but at least controlled, and this mentality of american politics, it has not gone anywhere, it is present, and in an obvious form, controlled and on the territory of ukraine, and so that, i also refer here to the words
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of biden, recently, so that soldier, so that an american soldier does not collide with a russian soldier, controlled in all senses, in the ways that you ... have mentioned, but also in such a way that there will be no massive escalation, and not only nuclear escalation, that you can look at the course of hostilities and understand what it will lead to, at least in the medium term, as you said, whether it will spread to other geographical areas, how it is fought or not fought. with what is happening around gas, but with what may explode in other regions of the world. there is a lot of talk right now about venezuela, but there is also a presidential election in taiwan coming up, and while most politicians and analysts who understand china believe that
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the chinese will act strategically and not immediately raise the stakes, but the question is who will read the mentality. chinese leadership, as there were many mistakes, and american mistakes in understanding what and how russia will do. pavle, thank you for your analysis, for joining our broadcast. pavlo klimkin, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine for 14-19 years was on our air, we talked about and analyzed zelensky's visit to the usa. this is the freedom of the mornings, here. we talk with you in the morning about important events, analyze them, well, and further on this broadcast we are talking about the following: kyivstar has not yet restored communication, but they want to do it today, the company's services are gradually becoming available, the attack is already being investigated by the security service of ukraine, and they say there is a possible involvement
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of the special services of russia, whether such attacks will become more frequent, how to prepare for the disappearance of communications no matter what challenges the country is facing, the crossing point is the hours of dorogusk in polish. at the ukrainian border resumed its work after the release of the blockade, but was again blocked by a truck that broke down right in the middle of the road. meanwhile, the new prime minister donald tusk calls on poland to mobilize for help. in ukraine, what is the situation at the border and how will polish-ukrainian relations change after the appointment of a new prime minister. we will discuss these topics further, and i will remind you that in the morning from 9:00 a.m. freedom of the mornings is here on radio liberty youtube, with you in a live broadcast, and you can also watch our broadcasts on tv channels. kyivstar managed to partially restore the operation of fixed communication services. some subscribers already have access to home. internet the company announced this on its official facebook page. currently, specialists are working on
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the restoration of other services and, i quote: they will do everything possible to finally complete this work during today, they noted. and in the meantime, the sbu opened criminal proceedings on the fact of a cyber attack on one of the national mobile operators . we are talking about eight articles here, including interference in the work of the network, treason, sabotage, and even encroachment on the territorial integrity of ukraine. one of the versions. which sbu investigators are currently working on, is what may be behind the hacker attack the special services of russia, this was reported on the department's website. kyivstar subscribers lost their connection the day before in the morning, at first the company called it a technical failure, and later announced that they had become the target of a powerful hacker attack. oleksandr kumarov, the general director of the company, said on the air of the telethon "edyni novyny" that the it infrastructure of kyivstar was partially destroyed. and according to open data on the kyivstar network , as of june 23, it had almost 24 million mobile subscribers and over a million fixed-line internet subscribers, and
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among clients, business, banking institutions and government institutions. due to the attack on the company's infrastructure, it is still impossible to make calls, send messages, even use the application and website. we talk about this topic later on our broadcast. vitaly yakushev, director of the cyber security company, tengerrs, joined our broadcast. greetings , thank you for joining. good morning, in your opinion, according to your analytics, what did the situation with the hacker attack on kyivstar show us? they showed that one should not underestimate the enemy, they can do something like that it will hurt us and it will hurt, you see in many areas, it is more than 20 million subscribers of the company, and business partners who are connected, that is, there are also banking structures, an atm. terminals, even some state resources were tied up in services from the company, so it is necessary
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to understand that the term sustainability must be built in a reasonable way, not to run on the rake, not because of pain, to improve this sustainability , to build this sustainability a little ahead, that is, to everyone, i i understand that we will all draw conclusions, we will all have additional reserve cards, seven cards, there will be additional moments with... home internet providers, well, accordingly, i really hope that business and the state will also draw conclusions and have backup communication channels, they will not rely on a single provider of any kind, i do not i will say that kievstar is the worst, we need to switch to another one, because no one in the world is safe from this, no company in the world is safe from such cyberattacks, that is , welcome, according to your words , one of the main conclusions is how for consumers, as truly it is important for ukrainians to have alternative sim cards of alternative
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providers at home, when we talk about home internet, and for companies, this is also a conclusion, and what ukrainian companies can do so strategically important right now, well, first of all, companies such as kyivstara, this there are critical infrastructure facilities, should not only prepare, but check their backup plans right now. recovery plans, incident response plans, because they are also under this microscope of our enemy and they are in target, and we have thousands of such companies in ukraine, that is, there are very, very large ones such as kyivstar, such as energy companies and other companies that serve a large number of subscribers, logistics and other companies, and there are not such large companies, but also they are the object of critical infrastructure, it is also necessary... to understand that under the crosshairs, and it is necessary, firstly, to build protection, and secondly,
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to prepare for a possible cyber attack, perhaps even it is already successful, and therefore it is necessary include a bit of paranoia, or whatever it is called, academically, the principle of zero trust and looking for the enemy within, it will not interfere either. the sbu is investigating this attack, and they said that russian special services are likely involved, is it possible to consider it? as the beginning of such a new format of attacks on ukraine, perhaps even russian attacks on ukraine? it would not say that this is a new format when talking about cyber warfare. cyber attacks, then in march 2024 it will be exactly 10 years since they started such a large-scale cyber war against ukraine, if you remember, in the 14th year there was the infrastructure of the cec, the central election commission was broken, then in the 15th and 16th years the power companies broke down, and some subscribers remained, electricity consumers were without electricity, that is, there were blackouts even before
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the rocket attacks due to cyber attacks in ukraine, in the 17th year all very good... i put a lot of public and private companies in ukraine, that is, this war, cyber war, it has been going on for a long time, almost 10 years, and therefore there is nothing new here, that is, one should not relax, one should not underestimate the enemy, be ready for yesterday and do not look at the statistics that the number of cyberattacks is increasing or decreasing, they will always be there, and you have to ask yourself the question... not how it will happen, but when it will happen, a cyberattack, because they are constantly hunting and, unfortunately, sometimes successfully. well , in ukraine, taking into account the previous experience, you can expect missile strikes or shahedas there, when the light goes out, then the internet, mobile communication goes down there, it has already happened, and here is such a situation, when just a part of the subscribers of one
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of the from a mobile communications company in ukraine turns out to be out of touch at all, this is something new, but if we talk about... such moral preparation for those scenarios that can happen, what can happen in the worst case scenario, which areas are potentially at risk? i don't want to scare you, but here's what i mentioned about critical infrastructure facilities - these are precisely those companies on which the viability of big business, large companies, state companies, or the population of ukraine depends, that is, these are attacks on as he said that energy companies. they already did, they already have such experience, successful, unfortunately, and will continue to do it, it will be its television companies, all large and internet providers, and if we remember last year, a lot of small internet providers were also hacked, their work was stopped and subscriber data was stolen, these are also logistics companies, large
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and not very large, these, because our parcels and private individuals, and large transportation, and agricultural companies, which were also under, let's say so, the impact of rockets and shaheds, cyber attacks are also not excluded, because cyber attacks, they are cheaper than rocket attacks attacks, and carry them out and, and sometimes they are even effective, as you can see, it would be very difficult to overwhelm kyivstar there with missiles, but with a cyber attack it was possible, and that is why it is necessary to understand that these companies are there, the metro can also be said about state companies there. for example, these are companies that also serve the population there during the war, there, for example, air warning signals, also because of the attack on kyivstar, became unavailable there, so we need to prepare for such attacks on objects on which a lot depends what will happen in the country
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there will definitely be, whether they will be successful, it depends on us, as a specialist... security, and the employees of these companies, which will be these attacks. vitaliy, thank you , but to sum it up briefly, that is, what you need to have, several sim cards, a battery-powered radio, what else can help orient yourself in space, if everything turns off, and yes, well, we have already experienced blackouts, that is, it is necessary to have this radio or walkie-talkie for communication with loved ones, with friends with whom to make arrangements, again, alternative... options providers and also for your provider to purchase a special powerbank for your router, because sometimes providers work even during blackouts, you just need to have equipment working at home, so additional powerbanks, well, don’t panic, that’s the main thing, that’s what they want to achieve our enemies, so that there is panic, that there is stress, during panic it is very easy to control us and
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read information from verified sources, do not read unverified telegram channels, internet sites, because... during these attacks there is also a parallel information attack, which dispels treason, dispels this panic in order to lower trust in the authorities and increase this degree of mistrust and stress in society. thank you for participating and giving such useful advice, well , informational preparation also plays a big role in order to really be ready for everything, our listeners, viewers, vitaly yakushev, director of the tengarts cyber security company. was a guest of our broadcast. thank you. next , we will talk about the situation in polish-ukrainian relations. this is already the second day since the end of the ukrainian carriers blockades cross separate checkpoints on the border between poland and ukraine, and according to the state border service, in the first 24 hours after the blockade , more than 300 trucks entered ukraine through the yagodyn dorogusk checkpoint. as
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the ambassador of ukraine to poland, vasyl zvarych, previously reported in a commentary to radio liberty, the border blockade was lifted by the decision of vit gmina dorhuska, who decided to end the protest. as for other checkpoints, the situation there has not changed. i will remind you that on november 6 , polish carriers blocked traffic trucks at checkpoints on the polish-ukrainian border, demanding ... permits for ukrainian drivers and the removal of polish cars from the electronic queue, it is about blocking the checkpoints of greben ravoruska, korchowa-krakowiec, and dorgusky yagodin. i will add that the newly elected polish prime minister donald tusk said that the polish government, i quote: found a way to take into account the interests of the protesting carriers on the one hand, and on the other to immediately unblock the border with ukraine. we will also talk about the influence of the new prime minister further. andrii dashchyts, ambassador of ukraine in poland joined our broadcast. mr. andrii, i congratulate you, thank you for joining. and i immediately want to ask you, but with the new prime minister in poland, donald tusk, can we expect a warming of relations between poland and ukraine, he was in
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this position 16 years ago, what are the prospects for ukraine now, and the unblocking of the border, this such a positive signal? well , look, good morning, first of all, first of all, the important thing is that there will already be a new government in poland, and this government will be stable, and a government that... will be for the longer term, and therefore, you can sit down at the negotiating table with him and negotiate. secondly, donald tusk is known for his, his pro-european position, and he also very well understands the problems and importance of ukraine. in the end, he even stated this during his exposé, in the diet, during the vote for the government's program, and stated what was necessary. to support ukraine, and this should be done immediately. thirdly, the composition of the government is quite dynamic, it is new, and they declare that they are ready to correct
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all these mistakes that were or remain from the previous government. therefore, i think that we have good prospects for restoring a normal, permanent dialogue, a pragmatic, working dialogue between the governments of ukraine and poland. between our states, and i think that knowing the position of many ministers and deputies from the actually now ruling polish coalition, we can say that there are good chances to develop fairly good and good-neighborly relations and mutually beneficial relations between ukraine and poland. do you think all the checkpoints between poland and ukraine will be unblocked? well, i think so will be unlocked in some time. these checkpoints, because to a large extent this problem has an economic component, on the one hand , because polish carriers have
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competition from ukrainian carriers, on the other hand, it also has a political political component, because these protests are supported by the confederation party, the extreme right party, they behave quite aggressively, if not even brutally, yesterday the whole world. circulating information that one of the deputies of this confederation in the diet extinguished the minora candle with on the occasion of hanukkah with a fire extinguisher, it was simply condemned by all political forces, i think that this party will not have support in polish society as well, that is why what happened now in droguska, that the vyut of the commune, which first gave permission, and now took it away this permission to hold these protests, i think that such examples... will also be for zro and this example will be taken by others to enter or join other local authorities that gave permission to hold protests, block borders -
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it should, but it should also but should also wait that it will not be so easy, it will all happen, because of course poland and this government, even the new government, which is quite pro-european, but it will also protect the interests of its, well , truckers, its agricultural producers, but... i think that to find understanding will be easier, and especially if we work in a tripartite format, ukraine, poland and the european union. the issue of the european integration of ukraine is very important, and here we are approaching the date of december 14-15, when the debate will continue on the start of negotiations on of ukraine's accession to the eu, donald tust said that he will go to brussels, is it possible to get support from warsaw here and is this vote decisive, so to speak? i think so, i think that... shava and, in particular , polish prime minister donald tusk will support ukraine's european integration steps, including, i hope, the decision to open.
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negotiations on ukraine's accession to the eu, in the coming days, and what is very important, right now at this very moment the inauguration of the new government is taking place, the president is handing over the official documents to ministers, i.e. decrees on appointing them to their positions and on the start of the new government's performance of functions, but what is also important is that this government... of course, as i said, will be sufficiently pro-european, and it will be a good example for other neighbors poland's attitudes are skeptical, if at all negativity, and some, like hungary, are negatively opposed to ukraine joining the european union, so i think that this is a very good sign, a signal that the actual mood has changed in poland. well, here you can also refer to a quote by donald tusk. he said that poland is and will be a key strong
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sovereign link of nato and that... poland will be a loyal, stable, confident in its strength and importance partner of the united states, and that poland will restore its leadership position in the eu, this is a statement about the desire for leadership in the eastern europe? well, poland has been a leader in eastern europe for the past few years, and even the government of mateusz marawiecki, the government of law and justice, he showed that in the times of this russian threat and russian aggression against ukraine. they played enough an active, if not to say, a leading role in mobilizing support for ukraine, among the countries of eastern europe, and the eu and nato. therefore, i think, the government of donald tusk will also continue this policy. i thank you for joining our broadcast, these are important changes in the country of neighbors, considering all the last weeks that we devoted to this topic and these difficult relations between the countries. andriy doshchytsia, ukrainian ambassador to poland, was a guest of our broadcast. thank you. this is svoboda ranok, i will remind you that
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greetings, it's news time on espresso. kateryna shiropoyas works in the studio. 100% air defense work, in the third. at night, the russians fired 10 ballistic missiles flying in the direction of kyiv, the air defense forces shot down all of them, the type of missiles is determined after studying the wreckage, the enemy also attacked with shaheds from the temporarily occupied crimea, fired 10 drones, all 10 were destroyed by the defenders of the sky, the air force reported, almost all uavs were shot down in odesa.

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