limited access to the event, well , to put it roughly, to some events and events that are happening in the world, literally in a few days in brussels there will be a meeting of the european council and a summit of the european council, and there will be a decision, or there will be no decision about the future of ukraine , regarding accession to the european union. mrs. iryna. how do you assess the absence of this parliamentary diplomacy and in a broad sense, not as it used to be, the limitations, yes, of this parliamentary diplomacy, and will it affect the final decision, because we know that last week there was the story of poroshenko, who was traveling and did not reach orban, because for some reason

the special services believed that it was some part of the russian epso, i know you were going to the united states of america, you also did not receive permission to leave for the united states of america with ivana klympush tsensadze, the lack of such a broad diplomatic front, as it is indicated, or zelensky's government, a monopoly, they believe that everything should be concentrated in one hand and should be clearly there according to... according to directives, you also work according to directives, you work as a single team ukrainian, right? you know, today we were included in a meeting with the swedish rikstad, because i work in the foreign affairs committee , and we discussed military aid with our swedish colleagues, sweden is one of the leaders in providing such assistance to us, starting with shells and ending with airplanes, and. .. among those participants of this conversation were

our colleagues from the osce parliamentary assembly. twice, stefanchuk did not let me, the only one from the delegation, even to the official events of the osce parliamentary assembly, this is an observation there was a mission in poland during the elections, and the autumn session in armenia, where there was also a large american delegation, and we planned to hold many bilateral events there, but i am... a stateswoman, and of course, during our conversation we talked only about aid to ukraine, about the military component, humanitarian, exchange of names, illegal deportation of children, sanctions, nato, how important it is for ukraine after all , even after sweden joins nato, so that ukraine becomes next, we are statesmen, and it is obvious that always on all our external ones we speak with one voice on the playgrounds.

protecting the interests of ukraine, at the same time , it is absolutely fair that ukraine should develop as a democratic state, and if we are talking about the decision of the european council, it will be based on the report of the european commission , which consists not only of seven points that ukraine actually fulfilled, but the report - these are 143 pages, where a lot is said about freedom of speech, and about self-government, and about democracy, and it is very important that the authorities realize that whether... here are the reports and recommendations of the european side of our partners need not only there title page, but completely. it is very fair to note that the issue of foreign policy is not only inter-parliamentary diplomacy, is it really the involvement of broad representatives there, for example, when poroshenko was working on keeping tomos for ukraine before this difficult conversation, president yushchenko was involved in this difficult work, which has great authority. in certain circles, in

certain countries, and he had such an informal, unofficial mission there, to conduct certain negotiations, and it is obvious that today that stage in a country when the government is wise to bring together everyone who has talent, experience, contacts, friends, so that we work on several tracks, not only the united states, the world's conjuncture is really changing in other directions, and here we need to unite and not simply to preserve the anti-putin coalition, and also... to strengthen it. next year is the year of elections in the world. elections will be held in more than 70 countries. these are the countries of the european union, and the elections to the european parliament, and in russia itself. and by the way, russia has already announced that it will hold presidential elections in the occupied territories ukrainian territories. that is why we need to talk about the non-recognition of these elections, they will be illegal. ot. and actually, this is a very important job, where you need to understand, to work not in cavalier attacks.

the problem is that the authorities have really reached the end in the united states, and when this magic does not work, there is only a speech and such a message with ukraine as a cavalry... in the last two weeks, they have tried to break the situation at this time , when it was necessary to work systematically with republicans and democrats the whole year, so that we really received this help in september-october, when it was more realistic, and therefore, of course, now we need to draw conclusions from these mistakes, just internal conclusions, strengthen the diplomatic team, we should have the ministry of foreign affairs, its he is not here today, i’m sorry, where is the minister of foreign affairs, where did he disappear, when did he... was he in the parliament, when did he last talk to the deputies about the challenges facing the country today for the next year, it’s not normal when he only deals with diplomacy office obviously that the administration of the president has always been very seriously involved in the external vector, but

it cannot take over the powers of the ministry of foreign affairs and the parliament, well, as for the parliament, you know, i have something to compare it with, this is really not the first... convocation, and i am very sorry when today, with such silent consent of the leadership of the parliament, it is nullified, it loses its weight, authority, it is wrong, and i think that despite the fact that outwardly we are always with one voice, we always talk only about a- and the protection of ukraine and our national interest, internally we have to be honest, with each other and honest with the country, and draw conclusions from a lot of mistakes. and the last thing, look. attention, the senators today after the meeting with zelenskyi made such short messages that it was a good meeting, it was a strong meeting, the president there very strongly presented the position regarding the needs of the military in ukraine, but they also talked about corruption, and it is normal when

the american side or the european side want to have transparency in the use of funds, and here is the parliament in this kind of monitoring, yes there the spending of funds, both from the budget... and from the west, should play a key role, because the function of the parliament is control, and it has been destroyed today, and i think that if the president would emphasize on this, that there is a parliament, it is a representative body, pay attention , when the american delegations come, they are always two-party, they are republicans , they are democrats, there is only one party in overalls , well somehow it all looks very strange, and yes, i think we should strengthen these trends in ukraine, democracy, parliamentarism. thank you, mr. oleksiy, we have already mentioned this summit of the eurocouncil and the decisions that may or may not be made, so do you think that what the eurocouncil will decide is more about politics or more about economics? no, i think that

first of all there will be politics, i don't want to disappoint anyone, i have my own point of view, i can unfortunately state that i am not a big optimist in terms of speed. ukraine's entry into the european union, i really understand all the problems of the energy complex, housing and communal services, economic, but today i spent three hours at the meeting the energy headquarters under the chairmanship of the prime minister, you know, and well, i'm under the impression, i can't tell everything there, the only thing i'm thankful for is finally at least such a calm professional conversation, because i haven't been invited there for a year or a year and a half, because i criticized there, you know? the energy sector, well, they were not invited for a year and a half, well, today they were invited, i think i was useful there and gave relevant comments and advice, but the situation is extremely difficult, and to say that now everything, when i hear, say, from the authorities, that in us energy sector for today there on

first place in european integration, this is definitely not the case, well, unfortunately, we all feel, yes, well, a banal, banal question, we have minus two on the street and the deficit is already strong. as always, there is not enough coal, scandal after corruption scandal, today is another scandal at the energy center , the president's office is involved there, everything is as usual, that is , what i am leading to, but politically, an unconditional go-ahead must be given, that this is how this procedure is already starting with us , it will not be simple, in my opinion, and primarily due to the fact that ukraine, well, not you, does not fulfill its homework, she tries to cover them more formally. you understand, to close some positions there, to accept something there, but i always ask the question, we had to adopt european laws, we need them to work in ukraine, but we have a huge problem with this, by the way, a huge problem in the understanding of many ukrainians that

membership in the eu, it's not just such powerful rights, it's also a huge type of responsibilities, you know, of citizens, before citizens, before the european union, well, that is, it's a responsibility, and now i want to quickly to comment, but i'll tell you honestly, i've had my own relationship with pyotr oleksiyovych since 1998. when we were there in the third convocation and then in our ukraine and so on, but i was so annoyed by this artificial scandal that was made, no matter how you treat it, this is the president of ukraine, you understand, this is the president, an authoritative person there, and he, he is not being released, and well, i never understood at all, well, how can you do that, but we saw mr. zelenskyi’s opportunity for him... pyotr oleksiiovych is accused of being there, almost a traitor, when he goes to talk with orbán, although orbán is the president

of a european country, sorry, prime minister, prime minister, yes, well, leader, yes, prime minister of a european country, you understand, we want, do you like it, or we don't like him , we don't like him, but by the way, we understand this situation, yes, and that's why we see that zelensky is also trying to prove something to orban at the meeting in argentina, and that is... these double standards, well, they they definitely do not consider this situation now, although, i will honestly tell you, i am a person, i am now a deputy, i have corporately protect our body, and i agree with ms. irina that they have really driven this verkhovna rada and authority below the plinth, it is a shame to say that you are a deputy, it is a shame, you just understand, i do not hope for myself there, nor do my colleagues who are now there, they know their worth, they are professionals and all, but eh... the level of this verkhovna rada is dropping, well, like never before, i have been there several times, i have been there four times,

you know, in different periods, but from the point of view of the coordination of these relationships, i am a former government official, i definitely know and love to do those exclusively because of my work, the fact that i was entrusted, well, that's how i was trained in the government, you see, and i am convinced that there must definitely be a certain coordination of actions here. deputies there, because our deputies really like freedom there, you know, such, well here it is definitely desirable that there should be some logic, coordination, cooperation between deputies of different groups, so to speak, which will not harm, but will be of maximum benefit to prove to ukraine, but definitely to limit communication with the united states exclusively to our brilliant servants people, sorry. i say in quotation marks , well, this is some kind of childhood savagery, you understand, well

, just childhood, that’s all, and that’s why i don’t like it at all, and i think it’s bad when such an institution loses its authority, because we are really moving towards very dangerous management processes in the state, we all understand about them today, thank you, mr. oleksiy, ladies and gentlemen, let's take a short break literally for a minute. return to the studio and continue our conversation, tingling and crawling sensations arise spontaneously and worries you: the dolgit antineuralgia complex helps to normalize the functioning of the nervous system. dolgit antineuralgia helps to return to usual activities without tingling and numbness in the limbs. capsules dolgit antineuralgia - help to your nervous system. laughter, physical... on activity, sneezing. even during such a small load, urinary incontinence can make

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political season. exclusive interviews, reports from the hottest spots. the front freedom of life, frankly and unbiased. you draw your own conclusions. friends, we are continuing the broadcast of the espresso tv channel. this is the verdict program. my name is serhii rudenko. we are talking today about how our government officials and our president are in the united states of america, there the congress of the united states of america has to decide the issue. regarding financing, further financing of ukraine, the aid package of 61 billion dollars, so the tranche must be approved by the congress of the united states of america. in parallel, on december 14-15 , the european council summit will be held, where decisions will be made about the future, the european future of ukraine, or rather, about

the opening of negotiations, this stage is quite large, voluminous, but in this case... it should be about consensus, about a consensus decision, that is, the countries of the european union should say that ukraine is really ready or has all the possibilities to become a member of the european union. during our program, we don't ask you about the european union, we ask you about the local government, we ask you whether you trust the local government, yes, no, everything is quite simple, if you are in front of the tv, pick up your smartphone and... vote 0800 211 381 if you are in favor if you trust the local government if you don't trust 0800 211 382 during we vote on the entire broadcast, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, we also vote on youtube. oksana

savchuk, iryna gerashchenko, oleksiy kucherenko, people's deputies of ukraine, are our guests today. we have already started talking about the role. the parliament and how the parliament helps, or whether it fulfills its role, just a few days ago david arahamia said that they simply keep people's deputies of ukraine, that many people's deputies want to draw up mandates, well, horror, horror, horror, how like almost like in that anecdote, well, arahamiya for some reason decided that his main task is to keep everyone and warn these people's deputies that not... it is possible to draw up deputy mandates, how many of these people are, i don't know, i don't know, david probably doesn't know either, but he keeps someone there, in a word. ms. oksano, how do you perceive such statements and does this not discredit the parliament as the highest legislative body, after all, we live in a parliamentary-presidential republic, and according to the constitution, the parliament has enough

powers, the people's deputies of ukraine as well have enough powers and... the highest legislative body forms the government and forms the majority, forms the government, that is, to be honest, every interview with david arahamia makes me think about the essence of existence, in general, of political existence, because every time i learn something from him i will learn something new , you know, i am first of all, by the way, a majority deputy, and i have always been a majority deputy, even when i was in the city council of ivano-frankivsk, so this is, you know, conscious... the choice and the work we carry out years, so i may it seems that there are such people who got into the lists and became people's elected officials, who were not. ready for this, that is, they thought that it was either entertainment, or someone just had to close the lists when they were submitted to the central election commission before

the parliamentary elections, and this is ultimately visible in the results of the work, because many of us feed bills , works, processes, we even came to terms somewhere with the fact that we register draft laws and they become the basis for the fact that on... on the basis of our ee the ruling party rewrites and registers others, but uh, you know, we have a war, so a lot of things are now on the back burner, but the basic things remain the first priority, the first, of course, is democracy, it really has never happened in the parliament that one faction has such a large number , in fact a monomajority, and today the e-e monomajority has complete power. since they are solely responsible for everything, the only thing that is really lacking is the votes, and they are insured by the parliamentary groups. the most unfortunate thing

in this situation is the parliamentary ones groups, these are riga groups, sorry for such slang, but this is a fact, the opzzhists, who gave the opportunity to form two deputy groups, although in those groups there are people's elected representatives from the people's servants, and in general, everything that sometimes happens, whether one of the deputies is caught on corruption, or some of them compile their credentials as a member of the servants of the people faction, they then calmly come to the parliament, you know, sit in the same seats, do not change seats anywhere and continue to vote bunison with the actual party of the government, so if we say about those colleagues who are not ready, i will tell you honestly, if there are any, i really advise them to draw up a mandate and that's it. and those who are ready, and there are many of them, and today it can be seen from the votes, they should continue to fulfill their duty, because if

it is not so easy and difficult for our soldiers at the front, then they continue to do their work, and our task is to do our part, the only thing is that we still manage not to the end, you know, to put this parliament under its feet, so that we really, including the opposition forces, are the only ones in such... difficult bills that await us, and believe me, the fact that tomorrow or the day after tomorrow we will not be accepted in the literal sense by the european union, i want our viewers to understand that, this is still a very long and long work, and everyone the draft law that we are voting on, it should be first of all not only for the sake of our country, to be accepted into the european union, because this is important, but also to take into account our national interests, the interests of our farmers. interests of our doctor, teacher, agricultural agrarian, that is, it is also very important to find this formula, when we take into account the interests of our

citizens and do not violate the basic foundations that lie in the european union, in european legislation, there must be people's elected officials who are ready to deal with this, thank you ms. oksana, ms. iryna , arkhamius also said that they have to... sit, there is such a phrase: they have to sit there, as if they were just put there to sit there, very, very much that was the expression, they have to sit, we will reveal the secret, maybe to the audience there espresso and present, present guests, you and i studied together at the university and found, yes, there was such a period at the beginning, when there was a soviet union and in those times... there, i don't remember what subjects, but you remember, there was such a history, they studied makarenko 's pedagogy, colonies for difficult teenagers, sometimes

when i look at monobolshe it seems to me that this is such a branch, you know, these are colonies for difficult teenagers, who must be brought up with a whip and a gingerbread man, the archamia there tries to imagine everything such a macaron, but i don't know how it turns out, seriously, yes, there is none there is no majority, and there is no... one vote, unfortunately, where a servant of the people would give 226 votes, and this is a tragedy, because there are not 226 votes, but actually, when these are european laws, here the hall consolidates and gives about 300 votes, when it is some kind of nonsense, such as the pdfu to take away and give to some such pseudo-correct, actually corrupt structures, then here really groups of these opzzhists vote and... actually, this is a problem, and we see that people were recruited from the street in the list, really half, abnormal today, the work of the parliament itself, when it works for three plenary days. a month, although we

say, let's go back to two plenary weeks, it's normal to follow the laws, work on them professionally and so on, but people gathered when they are random, worked for a day, got overtired and ran away. the second problem is, indeed, if the list-makers from the servant of the people rise higher and enter the council, and there they somehow retain this semblance of a faction, then when the majoritarian deputies come and... most of the majoritarian deputies are servants of the people, simply the structure itself is falling apart, and that is why the situation is so difficult for them, and i think that in fact david georgiyovych should not be talking about how he can keep the deputies on a leash, tie them to their workplaces with ropes, someone should carry political responsibility for how this list was formed, because it is really not ideological , it is unprofessional, and this is a trouble and a problem,

well... if we do not have a majority, we return to the important topic that this is a fiction, and therefore more needs to be formed before those challenges, who stand there before the state, not this , you know, meeting place of difficult teenagers , which today's monopoly represents, but a government of national unity, which could give answers, well, not only that work from morning to evening, to intellectual answers to the challenges that , thank you, thank you, ms. irina, ms., mr. oleksiyu, is it really at all... to say or prove the very fact that it does not exist for the majority and really start reformatting, including the majority, and, accordingly, the creation of a government actually passed the national trust a long time ago, and we have already talked more than once on the air, and probably what would be logical to do is, first, i just want to appeal to all ukrainians, dear ukrainians, never again repeat this experiment of the 19th year with...

voting on a whim , on the lines of some people there, for those whom you do not know who they are and what they are, because really what you recruit, you, you understand how in a month, in two , it was necessary to form 60 people out of 200 there this list, and so that the districts are the same, and kyiv suffered, surnames, i don’t want to say, but kyivans got on the full program, now you yourself are responsible for your vote, 13, sorry, so we are coming back, the fact that they have not had a majority for a long time, it is obvious, i am tracking and counting, well, a lot of votes, not a single vote, so that they have 30-35 votes of the opzh, here are these two groups, what are they called, restoration, renewal and their there, well, you understand, yes there are 30-35

votes, without this... no law is voted on and it is clear that under beautiful slogans there are always something lobbyist, corrupt on the verge of a scheme is discussed, and so on and so forth similar there are definitely two, well, i don't want to offend anyone else, and there is the expert faction of the eu, there is the expert homeland, we, we work out the bills very carefully, we look for a blog there, we really have heated discussions, you understand? and when we no longer vote for it, it means that we cannot vote for it, when these are really, well, bills of national importance, they gain 300 votes each, only thanks to the fact that all of them, including the patriotic factions, to which i belong carry us, they support it, the marker is key for you, without opzzh, no voting takes place, 20 seconds, 20 seconds we have on the air,

as for, look, i don't know. what can be done with this coalition that we need a really technocratic government, around which we can rally 250, conditionally, deputies who would work stably and professionally with tsymkuyu, mr. oleksiy, because formally i have no idea, thank you mr. oleksiy, oleksiy kucherenko, oksana savchuk, kyryna gerashchenko were guests of our program today, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in the program and the meeting has begun biden with zelenskyi, biden has already... announced that he signed an agreement to allocate 200 million dollars to ukraine and said that he will not leave ukraine. friends, we have to finish this program. during the program, we asked you whether you trust the local authorities. now we will see what the results of this survey are. please show the numbers. so, 23%, 73, 70 trust.