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actually who will be the guest of the studio, we will find out already this sunday, clearly, the topics will be relevant, the guests will be special, their own names with myroslava barchuk, sunday, 17:10 at espresso. well, dear friends, we are back on the air, and bacho korchilava, a journalist and former press officer of the georgian embassy in ukraine , is joining us. congratulations, mr. bacho, on our airwaves. i congratulate you. let's talk about... georgia and its chances of joining the european union were given the status of a candidate, how was this news received in georgia, how did the georgians react? at the level of a national holiday, because this journey took almost 30 years, what did the national holiday look like, well, i'm in ukraine, well, do you read the news from your homeland? well, of course, i read and communicate with many of my friends, but...

recently there was a publication, which was analyzed, now i’m trying to remember where it was, it seems, or financial times, or something like that, and there was a publication about the fact that the biggest azerbaijan actually became the beneficiary of the fact that ukraine has been at war for the second year, and since...

relations with all countries from iran to france and the united states and and that is, that is , there are concrete benefits from the fact that ukraine has now greatly weakened the russian federation in this war. can we say that for georgians as well, the fact that this happened today is also to a certain extent, conditionally speaking, this is the train, where the locomotive is now ukraine, which is at war. well , look, the region, the black sea region and the caspian sea basin cannot be considered separately, yes, this is a very serious topic, it is very deep, i do not think that it is simple the viewer will understand now what we are talking about, and of course any of the countries, there in the background

of this war, what putin began to do, all the countries, especially those that suffered from the wars in the early nineties, including azerbaijan and georgia , yes, where the russian federation directly took part in these ... most serious conflicts that led to the loss of territory, this will be, i say once again, this is karabakh in the case of azerbaijan and abkhazia and south ossetia, in the case of georgia, simply if earlier europe, it was there in the position of pacification aggressor, then in the case after the start of a large-scale war in ukraine, europe clearly understood that by appeasing the aggressor, the policy they had been acting on for over 30 years, including the americans , was acting with this policy of appeasing the aggressor, in many ways europe produced this policy. thanks to the usa, ah, they understood that this policy does not work, we need to be more active and bolder, but at this moment, if we want to talk now about azerbaijan, in connection with georgia, then these two countries cannot be considered without ties to turkey, because turkey is becoming a big energy hub, where

the huge energy resources of azerbaijan go through georgia, this is oil, gas, everything else, and really, so strong regional players are formed and... and europe has the biggest influence at the moment still remains for georgia, so in many ways this is the story , what we are talking about now made the task easier for georgia, the fact that she started to play in this energy troika in principle, because with the beginning of the war in russia, peace becomes energy-deficit, yes, that is, gas, oil, everything else, and the caspian region is a very large alternative to russian energy resources and the existing one... already the projects that go from azerbaijan through georgia to turkey, in principle, somehow partially compensate europe for these losses , yes, but there is a longer game going on there, which involves connecting these pipelines to the region of central asia,

this is kazakhstan, turkmenistan and so on, and these are very rich regions with energy carriers, and this is a very global story, when necessary to be overcompensated therefore. well, for georgia , this combination of factors coincided so positively, because we know that today the georgian government has not fulfilled all the recommendations that europe presented to it, but once there was a political decision regarding ukraine and moldova, then europe said, oh кей, почему бы там на уровен ниже не дат политическое расчение в адрес, здается bismarck said that russia is never as weak as we would like, but it is never as strong as it tries to pretend to be to everyone else however, many are now writing and the institute of war research is also analyzing the fact that russia is preparing for at least three more years to wage a war of approximately the same intensity as it is now in ukraine, and as

a result achieve some other achievements, in particular, to achieve, for example, in the southern part of ukraine on the dnipro, as a new, relatively speaking, line of demarcation. to what extent do you, what is your opinion, whether russia can really withstand this pace, or its possibilities are limitless? look, russia is getting ready to anything, but there is an objective reality, yes an objective reality , modern wars are technologies, in russia now to technologies, fortunately access is getting smaller and smaller and the world finds all the bypasses that the russian federation finds, and even these paths are blocked , so they can prepare for anything. europe for itself and the states, first of all , say very clearly that if we do not win in ukraine now, if ukraine loses, in fact it will completely destroy the european space, which in its time it was stimulated by the united states after the second world war, the creation of a single

european space, everything else, we know the same marshall plan there, also the creation of the north atlantic alliance there, also, by the way, general george marshall was at the head, the creation of the block. therefore, there is a lot at stake for the world, and to be honest, yes, i understand that now may not be very easy times in our life, but... on the scale of history, no matter how one of the victories or none of the big the changes that the world has seen do not come easily, we understand people want the effect to be here, today they did it, tomorrow it brought an effect, but unfortunately, it never works like that, this whole process is very long, again we can return to the issue of georgia, ah, about what georgia wants to europe, eduard amrosievich shvarnazy said, during the elections in 1993, there was still war in abkhazia, now for...

in the presidential elections that will be held in the spring of this year in the russian federation. and andrey, andrey, do you want, let's guess how these elections will end, here we are now discussing, putin submitted for the fifth time, on пятый срок, yes, how do you think he will win the elections or not, well, i would, i would, i think, i think, the bets here are just bookmakers probably accepting somewhere like this , the coefficient on putin that he will lose is probably good, you can bet a hryvnia , it's not a pity, because if you suddenly win, it will be a very large amount. no, look, sooner a brick will fall from the kremlin, from the kremlin wall, hit him on the head and

he will die, than he will not win these elections, because there was such a great tyrant and dictator iosifyrenovich stalin, who said, it is not important how you voted, it is important how will consider well, they always count in putin's favor , remember, we even had a funny story, i don't remember if it was his third term or his fourth, there one of the regions gave 146% of the votes, they explained it somehow. leonid ilyevich brezhnev sat there until the victorious end, there were soviet

general secretaries, yes, these were people, as we laughed, they said, they are carried out with their feet forward only from these offices, here is putin, he is such a typical product of the soviet schools, let 's say from the kremlin, only feet forward, v principle, i know few people who are from the kremlin , only elson, in my opinion, left the kremlin on his own two feet, and even then when he could not quite walk, he was supported there by his assistants, and the rest of them ... all left only with their feet forward, or there were palace coups, as in the case of the khrushchevs, in principle, and why are we surprised that a palace coup is not foreseen there, well, everything is not foreseen, so it means that he will leave this building with his feet forward, well, how would this be a reality that we must well , no matter how much we can't influence her in any way, but they have such a society, you know, they have such a wonderful word, they talk all the time, yes, the russian society, they talk about stability, that's all. swamp stability is a terrible thing, you have nothing good , they have swamp stability, but they are used to

having a stable dangerous neighbor - this is possible for our future, but in this future, if we are in the european union and nato , then in principle this is not the worst option for development, what we really wish for georgia as soon as possible, so that it happens, ahead it's still really not an easy road. thank you very much for this conversation, i see korchilava was with us, a journalist, former georgian embassy in ukraine, we are going for a short break. and then we will come back and talk about croatia, and why croatia, and because croatia has ended the accession of other countries to the european union, why yes, we will talk about that later, stay with us, attention, incredible novelty, unwrapped, super warm and very comfortable boots alaskan style, perfect fit, water repellent. and a feeling of warmth even in 30-degree frost. boots alaska stayle have a universal design and

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bosnia and herzegovina in 2011-2017 join our ether. we will to talk about the experience of croatia, which was joining the european union and on which the accession to the european union has somehow stopped. actually, 10 years have passed since the moment when croatia became a member of the european union from a candidate for accession to the european union. can this experience of croatia for 10 years help us? fought, fought with a larger neighbor, then fought, returning from the occupied territory, the second time, the word is many different measures of this experience, and does this mean that we also need 10 years to try to become a member of the european union? studio, greetings, well, croatia is the last member of the european union, it is the only, the only country that

joined the european union alone, that was all before. waves of expansion, and of course it was more difficult, more difficult for them to enter, because when you negotiate alone, you have one question, second, third, fourth, and of course this process was nervous, long, and until the very end it was not known whether croatia would be accepted or not, and then there was still a political consensus decision of the euros countries. union and brussels, and in the summer of the 13th year, croatia became a member of the european union. i must say that the previous expansion was in 2004, this group. countries, then in 2007 it was bulgaria, romania, so , well, more or less

, the tasks that croatia performed are much closer to us than those that were previously assigned to countries and countries, they were much simpler, so the conditions transitions with the european union are only intensifying , they are not easy, and let's say, when hungary joined the european union, the requirements there were much simpler than those that we will go through and so on, so orban's stories about the fact that ukraine is not ready there, that it follows some accelerated plan, these are just words, because you cannot follow an accelerated plan if you do not close the negotiation chapters, there are 35 of them, and each chapter is a report on the work done, it is a mass of laws that must be adopted. verkhovna rada of by-laws and implementation - of european legislation, adapting it to our system, or rather our system to the european one, that is, it is a very

troublesome process, and you ask whether it can take 10 years, well, it can take 10 years, but it can be done faster if it the work will be organized, the team that will work on... this is seriously prepared, well, actually speaking, if we are less likely to insert wheel sticks, then at the last moment, and you have to be ready for such things, when some additional requirements are put forward those that you already knew and fulfilled, then it is necessary to finish this line of negotiations, we tentatively chose the year 2030 for now, because it was announced by charles michel himself at the meeting of the european union with the countries of the western balkans, ukraine, this is when they were

in thessaloniki in october, and strictly speaking, this term is more or less real, and which ukraine could join the european union with the roots of the western balkans, a studio. how much has croatia changed in the 10 years since? is applying for membership of the european union and how much it has changed since 2013, how did it become a member of the european union until now? has changed, it entered schengen, it entered the eurozone, i.e. the eurocurrency zone, of course it already uses european funds more cleverly, i can say that in the first three years, croatia... paid more into the eu budget than it received, this a unique case, but it was so, because they did not know how to properly

prepare budget requests, correctly prepare programs for financial assistance to the european union, they had to pay more money than they received from the european union, so they were told, what does he study, you know who is the best at it , clever, i would expel poland in place of the european union. poland from the european union, she took so much money into her pocket there, it is simply incredible, they know how to make all the programs, adjust and so on, and they taught croatia, and now they are actively working, and of course, now the country receives much more, than pays its dues to the studio, but at a time when croatia was paying more, and still did not understand how to use the opportunities. union, how the croats reacted to it, whether there were any among them they said, why did we join this european union, i just suspect that among ukrainians, when

there will be some clear rules that will have to be followed, because even if you said about the poles, i once talked to a polish farmer who said that yes, i receive, for example, loans from the european union, which are quite profitable, if it were for your farmers, they would be golden with your land, but i must report clearly. i can't steal any money because i have to report where every euro or zloty has gone used, that's why it's not so easy if they find some mistake, well then, then you won't get any more credit, any help from the european union, there are clear strict rules that you have to follow, you know, how it sometimes happens, ukrainians like it there somewhere to pinch, somewhere something somewhere there... not to fulfill, somewhere to steal and put in one's pocket, not on what needs to be spent. how did the croats actually react to those first difficult years? do you understand? can

maneuver if their laws allow or they have some loopholes yes then you use these loopholes, and you are not a violator, you maneuvered, but you did not violate anything, and it is so easy to violate, of course, that they will not give you more credit and so on, well, the first three years, well, you must understand, if yesterday croatia did not i was in the european union , but today i became one, so life has not changed, for this day, even for a year, for two, you live the same life and so on, it is not a fast process, improvement of your condition and so on, well, that they didn't, they didn't, well, i don't know, it wasn't a big problem for them society, because everything depended on this society and on these citizens, whether they will receive any support or not, that is,

one can only be offended. yourself, because you didn't prepare, you didn't study , you don't know how to do it and so on, so to be honest, there were no such serious scandals, those who wanted to somehow get rich on euro money, well, there were also such cases, but they were tracked and so on, given that the reporting there is already serious, but at some stage of this... you may have appropriated the money, but at the finish line, everything will become known, and why did you do everything, because you will compensate them, lose authority and so on, so now practically no one and the studio deals with such things, we literally have a minute left, there is a theory that in fact ukrainians and croats are a little more than literally from the same one, they once came out of great croatia, white

croatia, which somewhere from... to the carpathians reached to romania, less so, if we were to borrow something from our croatian brothers, so to speak on this way to the european union, as a person who has lived in croatia for many years, what would you advise us to borrow from the croatians, to imitate the croatians, well, you mentioned great croatia, but where is your judge in lviv? yes, well, you are in the ancestral homeland of the white croats, lviv is in the ancestral homeland of the whites. followers of the croats and actually went to the western balkans, so ethnically, all the slavs of the western balkans are close to us, but the croats are especially close, because they came with this name from our territory, you see, that's in general an important historical factor, i used it as an ambassador, finally in croatia they understood where their ancestral homeland is, because

even such a simple thing. not the question of where the origin is from, everything was somehow a little blurred, but the second question, once again we talked about what what, whatever, what you advised, what you liked in croatia, what do you think ukrainians should would be to learn or borrow from the croats now on our way to the european union, to the european nations, well, i saw how their negotiating team worked, and they were professional. to break therefore, i will tell you right away that ours must be strengthened, because we were given seven prerequisites, we barely fulfilled them in a year, and you understand that, compared to what we need to do, it is 1.5%, 1, we barely made 5% in a year, so if you are asking how many years it will take, well, multiply by 1.5%, yes, it is a lot of years, it turns out that if we work at such a pace as in this... .