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of our country, of course, well then we will talk, well frankly, volodymyr zelenskyi, when he had a period, and a justified period of very friendly relations with president duda, completely neglected the polish opposition , including donald tusk, with a letter, that is, we must understand that there is one side and the other side in this political... and this political process must be restored from both sides, i am very pleased that both donald tusk and volodymyr zelensky exchanged very good statements, on posts on tweets, but posts tweets will not replace bilateral relations, and these bilateral relations should be formed on such a parity basis, on a parity principle, that is, one side country and the other country should say and tell about what our interests are. donald tusk, even before the elections, for
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a week or a week and a half before the elections, called, taking into account this playing of the anti-ukrainian card by the right of the party, myroslav cech, a polish politician, let's hope that we will now restore contact, uh, but, of course, i can agree with myroslav that which is actually very important to have some real ones. steps, ugh, that the mechanism of polish-ukrainian cooperation was restored, because for a long time all these problems had to be solved, if you will, at the level of personal relations, ugh, and when personal relations deteriorated, well, let's say, as between the presidents, yes, it turned out that that there is no such institutional foundation, but during the war there were good relations with zelenskyi and duda. well, it was possible
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to solve something at this level, they quarreled and it immediately turned out that no one could see any needs for some kind of understanding, this is a real problem, i honestly thought that this kind of personification in politics is exclusively our trait, but we see that in principle our neighbors from the european union also suffer from this, institutional durability and this should be really fundamental important, but i would actually like to ask mr. miroslav and you, mr. vitaliy, about another rather interesting incident: the sejm of poland, and a deputy, whose mention is now avoided by all self-respecting people, in poland in fact, at least, and, according to my observations, i'm not asking any poles, no, no, we don't know , i don't understand at all how it was possible to vote for it, so that it would be where it is under its mandate, extinguished the hanukkah minora, known for its ukrainophobic... there
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positions and so on, as it generally illustrates or does not illustrate, those stereotypes that exist in relation to poland, perhaps in relation to ukraine, because later we will talk about kmis and the fact that ukraine is a very pro-israel country, well i think that the same question is not in israel, the issue is xenophobia, ugh, here we are, he turns out to be an organizer of anti-ukrainian events, he is a xenophobe, if a person is a xenophobe, he hates everyone. in circles, except for this model that she built in her head, she, she is ready to work only, conditionally speaking, for those poles who share these views, people of all other nationalities, enemies, those poles who do not want to agree, traitors, well , that's all, and there are a lot of such people, what can you do, this is real life, if you like, it is what it is, and we talked about poland in the context of protection by polish politicians. its citizens, farmers or
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representatives of any other niches, professions and so on, let's also talk about how we protect our business in general during the war, literally in a few moments, i will remind you that on december 6, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi signed the law about the cancellation of the moratorium on business inspections, and what it gives us, or what it deprives us of, we will ask kostyantyn zhivago, an investor, entrepreneur and patron, he is in touch with us, congratulations. glory to you ukraine, glory to the heroes, i greet you, good evening, good evening, so the fiscal regulatory pressure on business, what will be in terms of consequences in your opinion, in my understanding, what we are doing now is a requirement of the european community, the united states, the international currency form , the fund , this is one of the beacons that they offer ukraine to actually implement, and nothing will happen from the fact that we... these decisions, i hope
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that business will understand this, because during the war , everyone must consolidate and help the state , first of all to get as much as possible more taxes, because taxes are what finance. the armed forces of ukraine, and i am sure that what the international monetary fund demands from us, what the european community demands from the united states, is not something, not something too much, that this is exactly what their businessmen do, just such taxes , actually lower taxes in ukraine than taxes in western europe than taxes in the united states, that is exactly what the united states entrepreneurs pay in europe, and give me at least one reason why ukrainian entrepreneurs should say that they should... pay two times less taxes, or not pay them at all, or so that there are no checks on them and no one controls them at all, i believe that there is no need to bend the stick here and you just need to understand in which situation, in what state is the state and just in the same way to take and do
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the right things for the state from the side of entrepreneurs, including, for a year and a half there were no checks, for a year and a half there was no extra you in my understanding... to business, today we are returning to normal economic model, and everything that the international monetary fund requires, in my opinion , we must fulfill. in general , how do you think business regulation affects our efforts to integrate into the european union, do we have positive decisions this week, does this decision and the signing of this law actually bring us closer in a practical sense? certainly. i'm sure everything the event requires of us, our partners, the people who give us their money, they give their taxpayers' money, and if they give their taxpayers' money, they they don't use it in their own countries , they don't build schools, they build, they don't build roads there, they don't build medical facilities there, they give money for ukraine's fight against
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the aggressor, against the russian federation, if they demand something from us, we must it's to perform, and it's in this situation they don't try to invite us to ask us to perform twice... more, pay two or three times more taxes than their entrepreneurs pay. we actually today, if we pay 5% of the popes, in general, such taxes do not exist in europe, there is not a single tax lower than 15, 20, 25, 30%, that is, all workers, all entrepreneurs, all taxpayers pay much more taxes in europe, in the united states, compared to ukraine, and in in this situation, if they ask us to please do it, please do it, we must do it, but in this situation the state of ukraine must do it honestly, because what are we complaining about today, what today ukrainian businessmen complain, entrepreneurs, criminal cases are started , people are thrown into prisons , hundreds of millions of hryvnias are given bail for people, and sometimes
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billions of hryvnias, when it is illegal, it is illegal in general, but everything that investigators do, everything that prosecutors do, everything that they do judges, this is just nonsense, and certainly europeans... look at it and say, please don't do it, but pay taxes. in the situation in which we will now be, if you will, these changes in european legislation, in ukrainian legislation, which will be associated with european requirements, what should ukraine do in order to prove its, let's say, economic capacity at a time when negotiations with the european union on integration will be held, will there not be problems for certain ukrainian industry, for all of us? i am sure it will not create anything, because today ukrainian industry has paid, pays all taxes and will continue to pay, ukrainian industry today even makes more than it did in the pre-war period, because it is even more of all these taxes, that is, on top of these taxes
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ukrainian industrialists actually pay contributions to the armed forces of ukraine, help the socio-economic life of the regions, the socio-economic life of the state. today, in fact, the tax and generally social contribution or burden of business is much greater than it was before the war. the only situation that definitely, as an economic situation in the country, it is not so good because we do not have access to exports there 100% like before the war, we do not have 100% economic development growth, given the military situation, that is the absolute number of... cooperate with the tax authorities, but which
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in many cases is very, that is, fruitfully related to these laws that we passed today, that were signed by the president, that, as i said, were signed at the request of the international monetary fund and the donor countries, these are insane. to the laws, in no case and in no way will they be able to do something bad there for our efforts to join the european family, the european community, we still have to understand... that if we have a shopping center 1000 km away, and there he divided by 200 fop and they pay 5% tax, instead of paying like big businesses 20% tax, 18% or 22% tax, it's a mess and it shouldn't be allowed, and our western partners, they see it all, and therefore, we need to understand that if we want to be part of the european community, then we must pay the same taxes as the european community and play by the rules of the european community, because you cannot have euros in your pocket and you cannot have european laws, and
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for some reason to say that we will live there for ourselves some kind of personal ukrainian life, this does not happen, so improve the tax legislation, increase the tax culture, the main thing is not to regulate it and not to squeeze business, the golden mean and we will be happy, thank you, konstantin zhivago, investor, entrepreneur, philanthropist was in touch with us , it's time to take a short break. yes but stay with us we'll be back in 5 minutes maybe sooner routines become unreal heavy bags are not for my back pain back pain try dolgit cream dolheit cream relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility, with dolheit cream, whatever you want, i will lift, dolheit is the only yellow cream for joint and back pain , ask at pharmacies, we wish you health and your family pharmacy dolheit cream 150 g with
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decision that touches our hearts: ukraine and moldova got access to negotiations on joining the european union, georgia got candidacy, and president salome zorabishvili says that without ukraine it was not possible i can imagine that bosnia and herzegovina is also taking certain steps towards the european union, which is also important, because these are the balkans again, we will talk about this with you, mr. vitaly and... a historic decision, but there is a long road ahead, of course , what there is a long road ahead, each country that joined the european union has a long road, many countries have not yet come to the end of this long road, if we talk about the countries of the western balkans, because the decision about their prospects and negotiations with it was made many years ago, even 20 years, and only croatia out of all these countries was able to take advantage of this opportunity, now we have a hard time imagining what the... western balkan integration into the european union looks like, but in any case we
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must realize that the candidate itself status is of great importance, because let's imagine the situation that a few years before the war , for many of our neighbors, the question of the european perspective of ukraine did not exist at all, there was an eastern partnership scheme, such a club of post-soviet countries, and i was always against this scheme, therefore that i thought that... this is in general some kind of bullying. let me be forgiven by people who were supporters of this idea. in fact, in one institution, in one boat. belarus, which is a member of the csto of the eurasian union and putin's biggest ally, is the regime lukashenko, armenia, which is a member of the csto of the eurasian union, may not be moscow's biggest ally today, but somehow it is bound by institutional agreements, azerbaijan, which is not bound by any institutional agreements with moscow, but is not
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going to have any constitutional agreements with europe, does not have an association agreement. and countries that signed the association agreement. georgia, moldova and ukraine. the question arises, what are they doing there together, what unites them, apart from the fact that they left the soviet union in 1991, when they have completely different idea about your future. there is nothing in common between the ideas of present-day ukraine and present-day belarus. there is nothing between the ideas of present-day georgia and present-day azerbaijan. together, georgia wants to be a member of nato of the european union, azerbaijan maintains neutrality and special relations with turkey. these are different political and development vectors. and that was one idea, then, so there was the idea of these association agreements. then a new idea came up, invented by emmanuel macron, he is generally a great master of inventing such designs,
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european political community. do you remember? yes, there should be a european political community, and it should be. bigger than the european union, the european union, and the forms of this european political community are already taking place, it is working, and therefore in this situation, of course, ukraine could always say: listen, but you are already connected with us by so many ties, eastern partnership, we cooperate with you, cooperate, association agreement, you fulfill it, fulfill it, european political community, it's called neighborhood policy, different approaches. neighborhood politics, and we say, we don't want to be your neighbors, you know, between a neighbor and a lover, there is a big difference, and between a neighbor and a wife, there is an even bigger difference, and that's why when you're sorry, i want to marry you, not to live in a neighboring apartment, you understand the difference, as a neighbor i will bring you everything, tangerines, oranges,
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champagne, cake, just don't worry, no, i need a marriage... so this is our relationship with the european union, with the european union, and we were basically told, this is what they said, well choice, we can consider our marriage contract, you will not be neighbors anymore, the country with which we are considering a marriage contract, this is a big difference, huh, and this is the historicism of this decision, then, of course, if you do not really want to get married, then you have been considering this marriage contract for a long time, but it is completely different than when you said no marriage. no, we will remain without you forever. there is another feature that distinguishes us from other countries, which we are also talking about in the context of this decision. this is what we have freedom and a certain equality now in the conditions of war, in the context of our economy, the european union. one of the reasons why
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what is happening on the border with poland is the normal regime for us now, as it has been created for the country. can it be canceled after the war? well, after the war, we will also talk about this, it is not known when and it is not known how, but can this condition actually play such, such an evil joke with us, and it is precisely because of the presence of this condition that we will take longer than other countries to step into full status in the eu member? i don't think so, everyone is fine understand that this is a benefit that exists only for wartime, but in addition, we must remember, what is the state of our economy, what distinguishes us? from other countries, not only that restrictions were lifted for us, but also that our economy was destroyed, and georgian and moldovan ones were not, this is still also a difference, well, they themselves do a good job in some aspects of destroying their own economics, as we have done it, it is true, but in any case we understand that better restrictions without war than
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no restrictions, ugh and war, so i i don't think it's just... a significant problem, i think the significant problems will be based in the very pace of victory, how fast it will be, and there's another important problem that we have to talk about, that's the problem of territorial integrity, that's a fundamental problem, and this is a question that no one can answer, because it is possible to hold negotiations, it is possible to fulfill all the requirements of the european union flawlessly, and then stop at the moment, what with territorial integrity, is the european union ready, it applies not only us, this applies to moldova and georgia as well. accepting countries that do not control their entire territory, which you accept in the international outward borders, but they do not control their territories in the international outward borders, is a huge
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problem, because there is no answer to it, and here too, you know, it is necessary will read the list of points of the european union for negotiations to begin with, there is always another point there, which is the most interesting. and this point is different for serbia, let's say, it is the normalization of relations with kosovo. serbia in principle conducted negotiations with the european union quite well. she was one of the leaders of european integration when it comes to economic legislation. but then the europeans said: listen, what about the normalization of relations with kosovo? and the leadership of serbia replied: "listen, let's finish our negotiations, then we will deal with this point." to which bluesel said: "listen, what's the point? if you don't solve the problem." point, what is the point of spending taxpayers' money on negotiations with mava, this is a serious and painstaking job, so let's get to the situation with kosovo to some extent and then we continue
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the negotiations, we will not close chapter by chapter, we see how it is doing great, and serbia stopped, not because it was a bad negotiator, but because it stopped because the serbian leadership cannot recognize the sovereignty of kosovo, there is no appropriate mood for this in society. and the language is there, excuse me, i will immediately ask about the recognition of the sovereignty of kosovo or normalization, because normalization is also a very vague concept, well, i think that normalization is still assumes that serbia should agree to the fact that kosovo can join international organizations and so on and so forth, there can be a whole story here, but serbia says that it will never agree to the fact that kosovo will become a member of the organization of the of the united nations, well, it is not for serbia to decide here, there is russia and china, which can block from kosovo, even if serbia agrees to this. but the members of the european union may have another question. let's imagine that you do not recognize kosovo, but normalize relations with it, but do not recognize it as a state, and we see
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kosovo also european families. ugh. that is, what this means is that your acceptance into the european union automatically blocks the european integration of kosovo. it cannot be so. we won't let you take that chance. that is, we can only accept you together. and in order for it to be. yes, we have to resolve the issue of recognition of kosovo, and if not, then we have to get a guarantee from you that you will not block the admission of kosovo if we admit you to kosovo, and these are all issues that there is absolutely no solution, huh, and we understand that no guarantees that serbia wanted to give to the european union, they will not work either, because serbia already had the guarantees of the president of cyprus, who, when cyprus was admitted to the european union, promised that cyprus would fulfill . the so-called anna plan , which called for referendums on reunification to be held in the greek-turkish parts of the island, and when cyprus was accepted into
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the european union, he fulfilled this promise, the president has already changed, and the president who was elected was in favor of the greeks are for a referendum cypriots voted against reunification ostro and they supported this new president, they... got to vote against, on the turkish part they voted for reunification, which is now controlled by the self-proclaimed turkish republic of northern cyprus, on the greek part they voted against, and the european union certainly looked like it was spat on, and to repeat it at least once with something, i do not think that european politicians have the desire, although a very long time has passed, so here i also have a big question, we always we are focusing on the negotiations, on the laws that we should or should not adopt, i think... that we will adopt all the laws that are necessary for european integration, this is definitely the visa-free experience, how much our legislators did not forgive certain laws that
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hit directly their chastity, they still accepted everything, did not go anywhere, and now they will not go anywhere either, but there are issues that we cannot change by ourselves, i mean the issue of territorial integrity, well, if the negotiations end, at this moment ukraine will not will control completely his whole border, may there be a question? huh, and by the way, the president of moldova has a sanda, you know, she already talked about two-stage integration, but i don't understand what she is talking about in terms of reality, she says that it is necessary to integrate first the territory of moldova that is controlled by a legitimate government in chisinau, already at the second stage of integrating transnistria and that the integration of moldova into the european union will be a signpost for transnistrians, who will see how good it is, what advantages it has, maybe it will be a signpost for transnistrians, i think that even many from transnistria. which are still left there, because the number of people there is constantly decreasing, as you know, on the territory of the self-proclaimed republic of moldova, they will simply move to moldova,
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and some will not even go to moldova. and to other countries of the european union, they will already be citizens of the european union, why should they live in this teraspol or in bandera, if they are young people, you know, who are thinking about some perspective, they have been moving to russia all the time with russian passports, well, if possible will not go to russia, but relatively speaking, to poland or to great britain, well, no longer to great britain, i’m sorry, to ireland, let’s say, where citizens of the baltic countries moved en masse at one time, well, these people will also move, but how can they move together with the territory, when territory ... is controlled by the russian army, it's not a question of integration, it's a question of strength, and the same applies to our territories, but on the other hand, if the european union says, you know, no, we can't solve anything, neither for you, neither for moldova nor georgia, until you restore your territorial integrity, it means that the key to this situation, i would say, is in the hands of putin, not brussels, yes, and that's why i think that you need to take non-standard solutions, that's
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important. non-standard solutions, and what they will be, i do not know, but this is an absolutely unusual integration process, which the european union has never faced, and for the western balkans, and for ukraine and for georgia, for moldova, on the other hand, you can imagine to ourselves, when we talk about georgia, if georgia is admitted to the european union, for the first time in its history, the european union will have... an enclave, uh, which will be virtually isolated from other european union member states, this has never happened, well there are islands, well yes, but this is a mainland situation, a state that does not fully control its a territory that has an occupied territory, together with this, is disconnected from the rest of the european union, completely, well,
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at least fortunately has a border with one nato member country. but another geopolitical situation arises, armenia, which is located between a nato country, turkey and georgia, which is also can become a nato country, itself a member of the csto. and in the eurasian economic union. how will it all work? you see, these are trade routes, we always forget, they cannot be like that now through georgia, there is a road to armenia, trade routes from russia. if georgia becomes this road will no longer exist in this form, and if we imagine that georgia has become a member of the european union, and sanctions against russia continue, that is why the georgian border is closed for russia, how to close all other borders now is unclear, the next issue, which is also very important, is the issue of all these... settled
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territorial problems that i spoke about. the next issue is the issue of serbia and kosovo. kosovo is still not recognized as a prominent part of the member states of the european union. and at the same time, the european union demands from serbia the normalization of relations with kosovo. maybe it is necessary to start at least with the legitimization of the status of kosovo, with some clear decision? collective, you have in mind. collective for the european union, yes. we all recognize kosovo. we are going to take him to the european one union or not? then imagine the european union, if it will finally look like a perfect structure after all these integration processes. albanians, yes, live in three countries at once in four. albania, serbia's border with kosovo, kosovo, and north macedonia. these are four different countries, but people
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in essence. hungarians actually united in one political space: ukraine, hungary, slovakia and romania. there are no more differences between the hungarian communities, by the way, this is what orbán used to say when he spoke about the european integration of ukraine, that this would be the end of the trianon. all hungarians will live in the same space. on the one hand, this is quite an interesting moment, on the other hand, it is a challenge for all these states, because you understand that the hungarians. which will be in one european space, the center of this european space for all hungarians will be not ukraine, not kyiv and not bratislava, but budapest with all the results, even with the distribution of these hungarian passports known to everyone. romanians, two romanian states will be in the european union, romanians who live in ukraine and who live in other countries of the european union. it unites european peoples, but actually creates.
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