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greetings to all espresso viewers, the news team is ready to talk about the most current events at the moment, i'll start with this: an 81-year-old man died as a result of the russian shelling of kherson. this was reported by the head of the city military administration, roman mrochko. in the morning, muscovites from the temporarily occupied left bank rushed to the central part of the city. fatal accident in lviv region. four people died, among them three soldiers of the state special forces. transport service, which is part of
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the system of the ministry of defense. according to the department the tragedy happened the night before on the kyivchopu highway in the village of smozhe, a four-wheeler and a ford focus car collided. on military numbers beforehand. while the car was overtaking the truck. all who were in the ford were killed. this is a colonel, a lieutenant colonel and soldiers of the state special service of transport and one civilian . they were going on a business trip, they informed the service. enemy drg became active in kharkiv region and sumy region. according to andriy demchenko, the spokesman of the state border service. the enemy advances in small groups, uses camouflage and distracting maneuvers. often leaves behind mine traps. one of the last intelligence groups was exposed in sumy in the sumy region. border guards and territorial defense forces entered the battle. artillery was involved. as a result. successfully
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repelled saboteurs from our territory. to counter sabotage groups , anti-sabotage reserves are being recruited, various tactics are being worked out to allow timely detection and destruction of the enemy. the service uses engineering obstacles, means of control and observation of the terrain, and also aerial reconnaissance. the threat from...versanti is not only to ukrainian soldiers, but also to ordinary citizens, because terrorists can open fire on the first people or vehicles they see. three men tried to illegally cross the border in odesa. they were spotted by employees of the state border service using a drone near the village of gulyanka. the law enforcement officers immediately went to the place and detained the violators. they used the services of an illegal organizer. border crossing schemes.
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instructions on how to move it sent via internet messenger. the guide estimated his help at uah 100 for each fugitive. greetings to katsapam from yarik. such words were written on one of the drones that attacked morozovsk airfield today. photos of the consequences of an attack by unidentified uavs appeared on the internet. on one of them you can see the closure. kisu-34 is dotted with striking elements. according to monitoring publications, if the cockpit was hit, the planes will need serious repairs. the espresso tv channel, together with the public organization baza ua, is collecting funds for quad bikes for evacuation of the wounded and other needs of the 93rd separate mechanized brigade of the kholodny yar armed forces. over difficult conditions, the ukrainian military chooses victory every day. or on
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the battlefield of wounded comrades, with atvs the evacuation will be faster and easier, and therefore its chances of saving the wounded are much greater. our goal is uah 800,000. with your help, we have already collected 477 thousand. any donation is important. you can see all the details on the screen. there will be problems. the head of the kremlin, vladimir putin, threatened finland because of its accession to nato. russian about it. the dictator said during an interview with the propaganda media. he noted that he allegedly does not want to fight with the countries of the alliance, because there are no territorial disputes between them. however, due to the fact that the us lured the finns to itself, they will now have problems. according to putin, russia will be forced to create the leningrad military district on the border with finland and send troops there. let me remind you that in april, finland officially became a member of the defense north atlantic alliance.
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a french diplomat was killed in the gaza strip during the israeli bombardment, as reported by the french ministry of foreign affairs, their employee was killed. them wounded during the shelling of rafah. the house where he was staying was bombed on wednesday evening. about 10 people died there. part of the diplomat's family was previously able to leave gaza for their homeland. paris condemned the attack on civilians and demanded that the israeli authorities shed light on the circumstances of this attack. the united states of america sent a second nuclear submarine to south korea. shock attack. the virginia-class missouri boat had already entered the of the main naval base in the city of pusan. it is armed with long-range tomahawk cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads. the ministry of defense of south
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korea said. they noted that the strengthening of their naval fleet is connected with the growing risks of missile launches and other military threats from the dprk. so seol plans to continue to strengthen. cooperation with the states, as well as to strengthen the combined defense posture of the allies. and to other events, against the background of destruction and looting by the russians occupiers of a number of ukrainian museums, a deeper understanding of our cultural heritage is especially valuable. thus, a large-scale exhibition project was opened in the capital for the anniversary of the artist hanna sobachko shostak. more about anna , a master of bright and individual self-expression. her creativity and event in our material. 140 years ago , the outstanding ukrainian artist hanna sobachko-shostyk was born. today, her works can be seen on scarves, stamps and even embroidered shirts. however, if it were not for a lucky incident in
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the distant 1910 about the talent of a woman, perhaps no one would know. anna, like her products, was unique and became a ukrainian innovator. of art, she was the first to start painting fantastic flowers, not having plants as models, not having as models, well , botanical reality, her flowers were fantastic, but also fantastic were the principles according to which she arranged them, as well as the fact that she is the first among non-professionals artists, and she did not have a professional education, she began to use color, painted in the best... traditions of folk ornaments , wove strange flowers into fairy-tale plots, signed every one of her paintings, in memory of sobachko shostak's work, on her 140th anniversary , the national museum of ukrainian folk decorative art opened a large-scale
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project of eyes of flowers, the artist's compositions were combined with embroideries, ceramic products, and graphic sketches. there are artists here , our contemporaries who... whom we tried to continue, that is, what was started by our ancient ancestors, what was visualized by the dog six and what we are trying to carry into the future. the exhibition and educational project begins with an exhibition of more than fifty works ms. hanna a grandiose program is also planned, excursions, lectures, book presentations, as well as a thematic concert of the bach amateur choir, the eyes of flowers show a wide range of motifs, well known and interpreted by the outstanding ukrainian artist, this is the first time that not a gallery display of the work of anna sobachka shostok is presented, but shown the origins from where that creativity was born, that is, it is not only some genetic code that was
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embedded in it, but it is what was in the peoples, in folk creativity, and what she saw. hanna sobachko the sixth. became a unique phenomenon not only in the history of ukrainian, but also of world culture. her works were exhibited at more than 40 exhibitions in ukraine and abroad, starting from 1913. ghana's creativity is full of the dynamics of freedom and remains a discovery both for our contemporaries and for the creators of the new and unofficial art of the 20th century. we have in the person of hanna sobachko a six, a phenomenon, a phenomenon, women. who, one might say, was even ahead of her time, because it seems to me that she should be understood as the first avant-garde woman, the first ukrainian avant-garde woman. uniquely creative anna sobachko's shostak is preserved in the collection of the national museum of ukrainian
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folk decorative art. since december 15, most of the works are exhibited at the exhibition and educational project eyes of flowers. you can touch the art of an outstanding ukrainian artist. until march 31 , 2024. kateryna galko, yulia belska, espresso tv channel. the next news release at 15. see you soon. greetings, you are on espresso, my name is khrystyna yatskiv, and i am very grateful to my colleagues who help us organize this. interview, which, i hope, you will be able to view with interest in the near future, we are writing
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this conversation in december 2023, and i am happy to welcome a guest of our updated studio, this is tetyana chornovol, journalist, politician, military, now, tanya, congratulations, i am very happy to see , congratulations, and i am so happy to be here, because i remembered, i was here for the last time before the war, i did my last broadcast, i know. actually wanted to start, because this is a very revealing story, about who said what, who thought, who was ready? february 5 , 2023, this is your last author program on espresso, which referred to the tank columns that will go to kyiv, yes, yes, yes, i was already in military uniform then, and they laughed at me, although in fact i was already then preparing positions for the sogna near kiev, that is, when i was doing this program , i drove just in the direction of ivankov and was looking for a place... i will place a sugna, that is, there were two, two, two birds with one stone.
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so, consider that today we have not an investigation, but intelligence. i will start by saying that the west has been warning the ukrainian authorities for a long time that it is necessary to be ready for putin's attack on kyiv, after all, what putin needs is not so much a lightning attack, but a lightning victory. from the suburbs of kyiv, russian troops will no longer escape without civilian casualties, which means that on the territory of vyshgorod there is a lot of water... the kremlin can persuade the ukrainian authorities to capitulate on all issues. only the risk of disgrace can stop the kremlin leader. it is no longer a secret that the russian federation is sending troops to belarus. drops all the way from the far east. a platform with a hurricane got into the frame. along with hurricanes in the river, we can see and russian t-80 tanks. if there is a lightning breakthrough, enemy tanks will be the first to go. putin's plans for... krig here along the nearest road from the belarusian border to kyiv are unlikely, for putin, an attack on kyiv here
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has every chance of being tied up in the ukrainian defense, but putin is playing games, preparing right here, russian tanks and systems have already arrived in moser salvo fire. i don't know how you feel about your fulfilled journalistic and already military duty in connection with this program, did you have the feeling that you got through or vice versa? you know, actually then do this program. it was very difficult, why is it difficult, because at that time i was convinced that we were not ready for the defense of kyiv at all, absolutely not ready, but i could not put it in the program, that is, imagine, well, i obviously, i was simply convinced that tanks will go that way to kyiv, they will just go, to say that i was there, saw that nothing was being done for defense, that means that everyone will simply give up, and that is why , to be honest, it was very difficult for me to prepare that program, i tried to find at least some advantages, i somehow pulled them out there, at least some yes. but, but you said that, you said that some fortifications there are minimal and defense lines
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are still being prepared, no, no, no, i didn't even say that, i remember, and that 's exactly what we weren't talking about, that's what we were talking about i didn’t go, i tried to say there that the ukrainians would defend, well, the ukrainians defended, it didn’t stop the tank columns, yes, in principle, thanking you, i’ll tell you, the 72nd brigade, it ’s just such luck that on that moment, it's in principle. was a very big mistake, there were two mistakes by putin, made at the beginning of the war, yes, he was preparing this blitzkrieg, and he in principle, well, when i went there, then i was preparing the broadcast, i saw that it was absolutely real, it was an imminent attack on kyiv through the chernobyl zone, but putin made the following two mistakes: first, he mobilized the ukrainian army, that is, starting the war in the 14th year, it began in the 14th year, even if it was not as intense as it has been for the last almost two years, but the ukrainian army was gradually built up, it... a whole galaxy of elite military men, who in in the 14th year, they just graduated
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from military schools, and from the 14th year in their own they had nothing but war in their lives, and we lived a peaceful life here in kyiv, and they, from the 14th year, these graduates of military schools, were in the ato, and by the time of the 22nd year, they were already such rexes, in fact, very, very great professionals, this is a well-rounded ukrainian army, and it was they who protected kyiv, and the terror defense, and the rise of the entire society, but it should be noted that the people of kyiv... well, putin understood that they could not protect, why, but because not far from the south the white church, yes , there is an attack from the north, when there are more there were no other brigades around kyiv then, by the way, which i could not tell about in my reports, but i already knew about it, because all the other brigades that were based around kyiv, these are the well-known zhytomyr and novograd-volynska, they are on at that moment were in the ato, and it is even interesting that before the invasion, the national guard, which was in the chernobyl zone
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, was sent to srilan, which is interesting, yes, that is, there were no military forces around kyiv at that time ... until kyiv, well i, probably, because of the instability of the russian army, probably because of the numerous. mistakes, probably because of what they had , in fact, they were not used to making such marches, they spent the night, which is called dyvanki, only then decided to move on, and this was their big mistake. well, what exactly will the columns of tanks be, because let's recall, in one of his interviews, commander gorbudanov said that these columns were actually a diversionary maneuver,
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the main thing would have to happen precisely at the airfields where the russian military was supposed to land and disembark . i did n't even have one, well, it was a column of tanks - it was the main one strike force that was supposed to enter kyiv and occupy the capital, people in kyiv would have seen that it is better to go out to these tanks with bread and salt, that would be the end of the war, they would have pulled out their advisory calculations, and yes, they would have already held a parade parade in kyiv. i will tell you, my acquaintance stungist, he shot an armored column near kharkov, when he came to see who they were fighting there, it turned out that it was a umon with shields and dobinks, there were not even weapons, that is, so that you understand, they were going to kyiv, well, actually, well, to kyiv, then to kharkiv, and somewhere else parade, but at that moment, after all, tank columns were the main psychological influence on ukraine simply capitulating, capitulating to the east, as for the landing forces, the landing forces here rather played the role of disorganization, and they, by the way, played their role ,
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the role was fulfilled, not even by the fact that a certain number of landing forces landed there, which were opposed there at this same gostomil airport. somewhere else, in the fact that we were all looking for this landing party everywhere, you will remember the first, first days of the war, when , unfortunately, there were a lot of so-called friendly of fire, due to the fact that this information was spread, the landing force is being landed everywhere, the aggressor, the russian soldiers are being caught everywhere, it was, it was a very serious psychological step, by the way, when i first heard about all this, i was like, oh, this will start now, and by the way, well, as it turned out, again... i was right, i understood that this information was purely for psychological effect, made so that ukrainians would start fighting each other, because these airborne groups , believe me, there was much less than information about them, well just a hundred times less, huh, in the same program you emphasized how important it is now for our defense to build up, pull up all the tails, you emphasized that if we are talking
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about anti-tank, about anti-tank weapons, about the same hips, then it is necessary that the launchers in number ... corresponded to the missiles that were made, and many, many other points , there was a little more than two weeks left before a large-scale war, i'm not asking if they made it, if they heard you, but two years of a large-scale invasion and a lot of new challenges, manifested themselves in very different ways technologies that we didn't bet on, or didn't bet enough on before the invasion did we did, but unfortunately two years of... that these technologies were buried, uh, played a very bad joke on us, and again, during eight years before the large-scale invasion, fighting in the anti-terrorist operations of the united forces, we were building both the army and our own defense in parallel
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. that similar processes take place now that the war has become very intense. but we are still ready to reformat and respond promptly to her a little earlier , i will recall the previous periods a little , because for me it all hurts a lot, i worked in the security and defense committee, i declare to you with absolute responsibility that if at the time of 22- th year we would have had a divisional ptuniv, the aggression of the russian federation simply would not have happened, it simply would not have happened, because because chornomorsky, let's say it like this, was in putin's plans to sharpen. several first shots at the beginning of the war, about which we practically do not know, but they, they were, by the way, they stopped the amphibious landing, because the russians did not know at the time how many neptunes we had, when they saw these shots, they
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were scared, although this there were all our neptunes, yes , then they saved them from the warehouses, finished that neptune that fried the cruiser moscow, yes, that is, in fact, even with those few missiles, there were not even ten of them, so that they could be interpreted as neptune missiles, which by some miracle the enthusiasts actually made, because the state buried this missile. program for two years after the victory of the green government, then with these dozens of neptunes we actually stopped the encirclement, the encirclement of kyiv, yes, that is, the landing of troops in the odesa area, i want to note this, yes, i want to note that there were other programs, air defense programs, which were covered , it was always considered that it is not important to us, now, now i am convinced, the whole society of ukraine believes that there is nothing more important than air defense, at the moment, by the way, in the 22nd year we would already have... our air defense in cooperation with turkey, because such an agreement on joint air defense, production joint air defense was signed in the 19th year, but then it all fell apart. turkey made
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air defense without our participation. and, by the way, she was interested in our participation, because we had the pavargad chemical plant and rocket fuel, right? well, that is, i made a small retreat. next, regarding the development of weapons, i understand that you wanted to say that the nature of war is changing, and in some types of weapons, which are extremely relevant, russia is beginning to overtake us, yes. that is, it means drones, it means kamikaze drones, it it is meant that they have always overtaken us, this is all the various installations of rep. yes, there is a very big problem with this, in fact, we are holding on now only because ukraine, although delayed with the production of fpv drones, we have far fewer of them than in russia, but we have no less professional pilots, because again, enthusiasts . pulled themselves together, each drone for them was prepared specifically for a tank, yes, they didn’t fly just like that, now we have the picture that the russians are throwing drones against one infantryman, for example,
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one drone, although ours still regret it, it ’s for a tank, and it’s for an infantry fighting vehicle, it ’s for infantry, so that there are at least 10 personnel, they just throw in the number right away, the only thing i say , what saves us is a low level of professionalism . thank god, how could they afford their weapons, but all this gives us such an impression only time, well, that is, they will learn, and time, time, the point is that you always have to move new technologies, for example, i personally have now switched to drones, and i am already late, and... unfortunately, i i clearly understood that i needed to master this technology, but in the summer we got a little confused , we had two installations working, i only had 10 fighters to service them, and
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it was constantly postponed, postponed, postponed, by the way, now i have mastered this direction, and i see that i have already missed the moment, that is, the goals, for example, on that in the direction where i am currently fighting, they have already retreated 15 km by 15 km, i want them, they appear only for work, that is, the tank leaves what... it does not shoot at such a range, that is, it drives in, fires back and returns is hiding 15 km away, that is, now i need my own 24x7 intelligence to find targets already on fpv, i faced the following problem, that is, yes, i put the work in pv, by the way, then i had a problem with bk, i don’t have explosion, my kamikaze drones did not explode during the first flight, i already do it myself bk, okay, i have already mastered it, and now it has appeared, my god, and now i still need my own intelligence, and... i say, 24/7, there are problems with this, there is, of course, a problem with this, that the one always has to win, who implements new technologies , the one who lags behind loses, yes, because all new, new
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challenges are constantly opening up, of course, i am in communication with many groups, i will not tell you, but the old-fashioned way does not work, yes, it is always necessary to be ahead, always ahead, although again it's a swing, i'm talking about 5 km, yes now i can fly 15, it would seem an advantage, yes, but the hips are not afraid. rebu, what does that mean? and this means that some more time will pass, some more time will pass, the enemy will place powerful rebs, for example, on the same tanks, which will feel completely protected by the dpf, they will again come forward to me, and i will wait for them with a knee, that is, for these qualitatively, for these swings, you must always be ready, as far as the hip is concerned, and i have such a great consolation, for now, to thank the ministry of defense, for next year. enough thigh rockets have been ordered, here i am for you i will say, well, this number is really sufficient, because in this current year it was a disaster, it was simply a disaster, it was one rocket per
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month per thigh. one a month, yes, yes, yes, and you understand, again , let fpv seize the initiative now, but at the beginning of the year they haven't yet, ugh, and you have no idea how much i missed these missiles when the attack was eight armor units, and by the way, well, it's rare that you get such moments, it's true, the cold only shoots what it sees, and here i get into attack, eight units of armor are going, i have two rockets, i take off from another troop, which is in position, and it is standing far away, it took only two hours to get there, they drive there to my position, remove the rocket from the position, give me a ride, i have in the direction where it became grainy, let's say this , another armor is approaching, i shoot another one with this missile, it is not a problem to make further ranges, for example, these missiles are at 6 km, now there are five of them, yes, by six, this is not a problem, these are the same installations, it’s just that the missiles need more, yes, the warhead,
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a little harder what's the difference, they're still too heavy, too heavy to just run around the field with them, they still get hitched, you see, and that's how it was necessary for these 6 km, how many roads i watched, which i just couldn't reach, on which i just drove there in stacks, for example arta , yes, take it and shoot, and there is something like a kilometer, i just can’t get one more time per kilometer, again, now that time is gone, yes, that is, when i was on these roads on which they drove like that on visibility 6 km from the mouth, now they have already been knocked out by fp from these roads, time is running out. i don't really need this 6 km rocket anymore, that is, we have to be constantly mobile, yes, when we are now fulfilling last year's order, this year it will no longer work as efficiently, so of course there is a problem in this, but you know everything, i will tell you, as a person who is constantly at the front, i am here on the 23rd, by the way, not far from here in solomyansk , the military signed a contract, just
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a block away from you, right? i left, and i left, and in principle i do not, well, actually do not get out of the front, now we basically do not there is a problem even with weapons, we have a problem with the fact that our personnel are not valued, this is currently the biggest problem of the ukrainian army, in one of your interviews you said how important it is to specialize, you said it specifically in the context of women war, but i think it's relevant to anyone who mobilizes, it's very important to have... to have some sort of weapon, yes, the more weapons you have, the more you can be effective, and actually we already have in the military a lot of shots, well, well, i can say about myself, yes, i shoot from stugna, i shoot from a corsair i shoot, i calculate with lng , i shoot capoartillery, i fly on fpv, yes , well, that is such a resume, which is a good resume, believe me, in two years, we have quite a lot of people like me in the army, but... more , what about me,
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or petra, or vasyl with such a track record, berka comes and we are simply thrown into a trench with one machine gun, without, for example, any protection there, just like cannon fodder, the personnel are not valued , unfortunately, it even got to such a point that a certain unit of weapons came to the understanding, but at the beginning of the war, to things, we lost a lot of weapons, yes, but now we have the opposite problem, we have a unit of some kind of weapon that is valued more than in... the calculation that serves it. now, i often encounter in the army that, well , you don’t know what kind of games are going on, but let’s take away, for example, their weapons from this brigade, give them to that brigade, and simply send the calculation to the infantry , well, moreover, these calculations are professional, there is no one in that brigade at all, no one knows how to shoot that weapon, that is, you have to spend resources there, to prepare new calculations while they shoot, well, i don’t know there 5 00 shells
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to become... really professionals , what kind of money is that if one shell is $200, yes, they will not hit from the first 500 of these shells, you understand yes, until they learn , here it’s just in some, i don’t know, i don’t know what kind of attitude it is to the cadres, and we’re just putting these people in the trenches right now, who already know how to hit the enemy with, well, let’s not say from the first, from the second projectile, what is the problem and why such solutions are necessary, probably, i hope that it is not some special intention, but simply because there is no other kind. yes, no, we do not underestimate the number of dumb populations, it is a common human problem, i will tell you, what does dumb mean in principle, yes , dumb is not a person who has a low intelligence, it is not a bad person, it can be a good person with a high intellect, but which by its actions causes losses for itself and for those around it, well, unfortunately, in principle, we now have such a situation in the country for a long time, that we have...

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