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greetings to all viewers of svoboda ranok, my name is kateryna nekrecha, later in this morning's stream we talk about the following topics: the ukrainian military is forced to reduce some operations due to a lack of ammunition along the entire line. front, said general tarnavskyi in a comment reuters agency. however, he emphasized that russian troops also face similar problems. how critical is the situation for the armed forces, why is ammunition not arriving in the required quantity, and what will happen next? in ukraine , there are problems with recruitment to lavzu in order to solve the necessary difficult decisions of the authorities. few of those mobilized through gym raids become good soldiers. the economist writes about it. zaluzhny said that the mobilization in ukraine should be returned to the previous framework. what changes in mobilization
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are planned, and what are desperately needed, we say with a representative of the ministry of defense. 14 hours in the open sea, during the battle for the battle towers , the ukrainian special forces officer conan fell overboard. despite hypothermia, dehydration, and pain, he did not stop and swam continuously to survive. how he managed to survive is the story of a legendary fighter of the main intelligence agency. further on our broadcast. comment, subscribe, share. our videos with your loved ones and friends, this is important for the development of ukrainian-language youtube, and now, under this broadcast, write your comments and thoughts on the topics that we we are talking here. the day before, the russian military carried out 79 shellings of the kherson region and fired almost half a thousand shells at it. oleksandr prokudin, the head of the kherson regional military administration, reports this. in particular, artillery shelled kherson, a 40-year-old man was killed, according to the sources. kudin
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was attacked by a private enterprise in a residential quarter of the city, and the deceased was a security guard of this establishment. the ukrainian general staff reports that in addition to kherson , the nearby chornobayivka was also hit by artillery fire the day before. tim at times, the ukrainian military continues to hold a bridgehead on the left bank of the kherson region, while russian forces have made little progress in the kryknya region. this is what the american institute for the study of war says. analysts of the deep state project write that it is on the left bank of the kherson region. the situation has not changed, the russian forces are trying to knock out the ukrainian military from the krynkiv, but without success, the general staff confirms holding the position on the occupied left bank, the russian ministry of defense writes about the loss of the ukrainian military on this direction due to air and artillery strikes. i noted that the american newspaper new york times recently published an article in which it is written that the ukrainian military, which took part in operations on the left bank, are concerned about the large losses in this direction and too... optimistic forecasts
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of officials. for security reasons, the soldiers, who did not give their names, say that it is impossible to gain a foothold and pay off on the left bank, and many of their comrades died before they could cross to the left bank. through permanent shelling, the military could not take the bodies of the dead from the left bank. this is a suicide mission - quotes one of the interlocutors of the new york times. the general staff did not comment on these statements at the moment, however, as the publication writes, they promised to respond later. natali humanyuk, head of the united coordination press center of the defense forces of southern ukraine, joins our broadcast. mrs. natalya, i welcome you to our broadcast. glory to ukraine, i congratulate you. glory to the heroes, can you tell us what the situation is like in the south, in general, how intense are the attacks of the russian forces? situation remains difficult and tense, due to the fact that the enemy does not give up his plans to put pressure on the civilian population and attack civilian infrastructure. to try to harm
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the defense forces in the advance and in general in maintaining the position on the left bank from time to time carrying out assault actions of the occupation units. troops are measuring the strength of our defense there, our entrenchment, but nevertheless, the positions remain behind us, the fact that the front line is mobile, we have already talked about it more than once, and it cannot be measured by two, three, five or even 10 meters promotion of any force, because these are quite relative indicators, and one must focus on the general situation, general. the attitude is recorded even in a kind of respectful speech of the president, whom no one respects , he devoted enough time to the krinks, although the settlement is very small, compact for the attention of such a large person, this means
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that he is burning, he is very restless for this, and it means, that faith in the fact that they will be able to return... he does not have these positions, despite the fact that russian propaganda throws very large resources into promoting the idea, including in the west, and for the western reader, that things are really bad in ukraine, in fact, the situation is really difficult, but we do not abandon our plans and have an understanding that on at certain stages it will be very hard work indeed. mrs. natalya. you said that the work of the ukrainian military on the left bank of the kherson region is difficult, but this work is progressing, tell us why it is important? firstly, this is a very powerful psychological moment for the temporarily occupied population territories, people have been
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under occupation for almost two years, and they have no opportunity to receive any other more powerful signal that they will be followed by... and will be released, than the presence of our troops on the left bank, and this is also a very powerful a psychological moment for the occupying troops as well, they are really not in such a difficult situation when they understand the command to go and storm our units, because they realize that there is an extremely strong defense, extremely. but trained and motivated fighters and what they do the occupiers, on their part , cannot in any way be compared with the motivation of our units, we will liberate our territories, also in the promotion
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of russian propaganda, we come across such analytical articles that the occupiers are likely to return to kherson, this is absolute manipulation . and i want everyone to realize that this is clearly a suicide mission, because the right bank and higher gulfs and bridges are all completely destroyed, and the occupiers have no support there. on the left bank, the situation is difficult precisely because that the army of occupation is there in large numbers, indeed there are more of them than us, but we will take motivation. ms. natalya, if we talk about the situation in crimea, and there periodically... the russian security forces or the local authorities of the occupiers declare an attack by drones and report that these attacks have been successfully repelled there, taking into account the weather conditions, taking into account the fact that the russian army has moved into attack actually along the entire front line, could it be that, well, relatively speaking, news about loud strikes on military
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infrastructure on the territory of the peninsula there won't be in the near future, i don't think there won't be such news, because crimea is ukraine and we continue to liberate. territory, and even when civil society was just beginning to understand what a counteroffensive is, we emphasized even then that the first and most powerful part of it is the destruction of the enemy's potential in his deep rear. today, the crimean peninsula is a large military hub where the enemy has concentrated a lot of resources, manpower, weapons, equipment and ammunition, so there will be work on it. thank you to you, ms. natalya, for joining the svoboda ranok broadcast. natali humanyuk, head of the joint coordination pres-center of the defense forces of southern ukraine, and the colonel was a guest of the women of freedom. by the end of this year , the white house plans to announce the last aid package for ukraine, which has money left over from
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existing funding. this was reported by john kirby, the strategic communications coordinator of the us national security council. however, he did not specify what exactly will be in this aid package, as kirby noted. with reference to the words of the financial inspector of the pentagon, michael mccord, the funding of subsequent aid packages will depend on the decision of congress. we still plan to provide ukraine with one relief package at the end of this month , however, when that is completed, as mr. mccourt made clear in his memo to congress today, we will no longer have the authority to supplement the budget and we need congress to act without delay, as we have said, as pankor wrote, i quote: it is in our clear national interests and our assistance is vitally necessary for ukraine to continue its struggle for freedom. i will remind you that, according to reports from the bloomberg agency, the pentagon sent a letter to the dfc congress. that the agency will run out of funds for military aid to ukraine by december 30, unless
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new funding is approved. meanwhile , oleksandr tarnavskyi, commander of the military's operational and strategic group , told reuters in a comment that the ukrainian military on the front line is facing a shortage of artillery shells. this is especially noticeable with post-soviet 122 mm and 152 mm shells, but according to ternavskyi, the reduction of foreign military aid has affected the... on the battlefield, who would say that the aid is not coming, i wouldn't say that, yes, it is coming, it is coming, but in the amount that we currently have this the need, it does not satisfy us completely, therefore we directly redistribute these and other means, accordingly we reschedule there the tasks that we planned to do for ourselves and are more or less voluminous, so to speak, because we have to provide. denis popovych, a military analyst, joined our broadcast. denis, i congratulate you, thank you joined good afternoon, good morning, good
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morning. so we heard from general tarnavskyi that the ukrainian military is forced to reduce some operations due to a lack of ammunition along the entire front line. he stated this, how critical is the situation for the armed forces of ukraine and why is the ammunition not arriving in the required quantity? well, this question is clear and the answer is clear, because today there is no certainty that... before the provision of military-technical assistance from the west, well, first of all, this is meant 152 and 122 projectiles, these are soviet caliber, but yes, we understand that we mostly receive from our partners the nato caliber 155, but one thing leads to another, as they say , that is why there is a shortage, there is a shortage today of everything , that is why the issue rests precisely on helping the west when this issue is resolved, so it is clear that... and it will be easier with ammunition, and the words of mr. ternavskyi, they stem from this
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situation, so now we need to think more about defensive actions than about offensive, because offense requires more, more is more expenditure of ammunition, well, all of them in fact, well, here we approach the question in this way, and what will happen next, how to plan this story in general, well, we heard such two scenarios, let's say from... on the one hand , the westerners write about it the media, that zaluzhny can prepare a counteroffensive for next year, on the other hand, we also hear advice for the ukrainian army to dig in and be in a state of defense next year? well, now, in any case, we must be on the defensive, since we see that the russian federation is attacking, and by all means, in fact, from lemano-kupinsky to tokmaksky, that is, they are everywhere trying to attack and advance, and now the question can only be about... defense, about the construction of fortifications, which, by the way , is also what we are talking about, about the construction of fortifications
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, we have also heard the relevant statements, and what the press writes about valery zaluzhnyi's plans to attack and advance next year, we would all really like that, but does the west have enough information about the preresnoplans that are currently being developed at the general staff and among the entourage of the head of the armed forces of ukraine, in my opinion, this can only be an assumption, only a few people, a very limited circle of people know about the military plans for the next year, well, you see, the german publication welt wrote about it, but my fellow journalists had an opportunity ask zaluzhny himself about this, he said that he cannot say anything about nastya, because the war is not a show, but in your opinion, if we talk about such technical equipment at the level at which ukraine is currently receiving weapons, it is very difficult to do so, we understand through the political specifics, but what... what can ukraine count on here, will a minimum be necessary for defense, is there a chance that there will be
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more weapons in order to have certain offensive actions, because this is the welt publication, it noted about the fact that the ukrainian army has access to 95% of western weapons, that is, as if there is a stockpile, well there is a stockpile, there are stocks, somewhere i have a certain awareness of how many of these stocks are left, i will not bring this to public space, it is nobody’s business necessary, then for defense it is crazy now. there is no possibility, although we are now we see that there is evidence that there is a shortage of ammunition of certain specific nomenclatures, and in order to advance, it is definitely necessary to have much more of it, so... then it is necessary to constantly supply them and constantly restore them, if we say now, that it is possible that the next american aid, the next american package will be the last, we do not say, but john kirby says about this, he announced this yesterday, and everything rests on the help of the west, which may or may not be, well, we believe that that this issue will be resolved positively for us, but we are leaving
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now, from this situation as it is, if you want from this as it is, then we must now think more about defense, and not about the offensive, and in this way try to restrain the russian troops. denis, could there be such a situation that due to the lack of these weapons, for example, we will not have the resources to protect some territories, well, we see the powerful battles that are taking place, the military is telling about it there near avdiyivka, for example. well, a lot depends on how powerful these battles will be, that is, how active russia is the federation will advance. we have to understand that it's not a rosy story there either, that is, if they try. to turn to their north korean neighbors, to north korea, for help, and if they try to look for ammunition everywhere and turn to iran for help, there, too , the question does not really arise, the reserves are still there in full, so it should be turned to there attention, plus they bear losses, the russians, one way or another, are very large, an average of a thousand
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servicemen per oak, we see this call from the general staff, that’s why all this depends on... the extent to which they will continue to actively advance. denis, you see, general tarnavskyi also emphasized that the russian troops also have, well, they face similar problems, with a lack of ammunition, is it possible to compare it at all, what is the margin of safety in russia and its partners? well , he is actually the safety margin of the russian federation. i am just giving a single example, they have the full range of production of these ammunition, 152, 122 of the entire soviet nomenclature, that is, they... have access to the full the technological cycle of manufacturing these munitions, according to some estimates, somewhere around 1.5 million munitions per year they are able to manufacture, repair and restore, and this must be realized at a time when we have limited capabilities from this plan, and we now see, that europe,
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the european union, which promised to provide us with a million ammunitions by march. next year, he is not yet technically able to fulfill this promise, and the same north korea has provided assistance to the russian federation in the form of 500,000 to a million units of ammunition, different assessments on this issue, and this is actually the annual, annual annual rate of production of the russian federation, so everything is serious there, and unfortunately, they have a margin of safety, which they are capable of... in many ways and independently, here we can say about the fact that russia's partners are more stable, and there the military reichs are already working in full swing to provide the enemy of ukraine with the necessary weapons, and north korea has been standing on the military reichs for the entire time of its existence, we know this very well, we understand it very well, there at
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the expense of agriculture for score the civilian sector is provided by the armed forces of north korea. another thing is that according to certain evidence, these ammunitions are not very good there, that there are problems with gunpowder, there are problems with the production of technology in general , and so on, that is, it is impossible there, their quality is such that it is impossible to direct where it will fly, and therefore it is impossible to guarantee that it will hit the target accurately, therefore the russian federation is capable of practicing and must take this into account and compensate for it due to the mass, that is, a large number of shots of these ammunition well, but you and i perfectly understand that if 10 hit the target there, and 90 don't , well, a certain number of all will hit anyway, so it doesn't get much easier, it's a matter of quantity and quality, so thank you denis for your analytics, for that joined, denys popovych, a military analyst, was a guest of svoboda ranok. ukraine is faced with
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the problems of replenishing the defense forces, and the authorities will be forced to make difficult decisions, writes britain. journalists point out that the situation with new recruits in the armed forces is difficult, so the military resort to raids in trade centers and gyms, instead the ministry of defense is working on a new mobilization strategy. the economist, referring to the spokesman of the ministry of defense and larion pavlyuk, writes that many citizens do not perceive the war as threatening as it was at the beginning of a full-scale invasion, which is why there is a problem with mobilization. also, the economist writes that the government has been doing this throughout the war. calls for mobilization from the military, in particular, president zelensky is in no hurry to lower the age from which mobilization is allowed, or does not want to make mobilization tougher. to improve they want to improve the situation with new recruits with the help of recruiting, so that future soldiers can choose a place of service and a position that matches their skills, however, as the economist writes, this will not be able to insure
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new recruits from being transferred to assault units, so the authorities can expect difficult decisions. meanwhile, general zaluzhnyi, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, says that it is too early to evaluate the recruitment process, instead, mobilization should not be intensified, but returned to the previous framework. about this for... said in an exclusive comment to the ukrainian rbc, it is still a little too early to evaluate recruiting, a little too early, and as for mobilization issues, well, it is not something that needs to be strengthened, but returned within the limits to the limits as they worked before, because now it is, let's say, a problem those guys who are fighting on the front line, someone has to replace them, someone has to help them, also to the question about how the release of the regional military committees affected mobilization, zaluzhna answered: "they were professionals, they knew how to do it, and their no". such a statement is submitted by rbc of ukraine after communicating with the general.
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general budanov, the head of the main intelligence department of ukraine, is also skeptical of recruiting. according to him, the approximate number of the defense forces in total is 1,100,000 people, and it is impossible to cover this figure, says budanov, only by recruiting, and it is impossible to refuse mobilization. according to him... there are certain reasons why people do not want to join the armed forces of ukraine, among them is the lack of feeling that this is your war. it was a quote. hilarion pavlyuk, head of the press department, joins our broadcast information of the ministry of defense of ukraine, hilarion, i welcome you to our broadcast, thank you for joining. i congratulate you. tell me whether the ministry of defense currently has an understanding of how mobilization should work in ukraine so that there is no shortage of military personnel. what are your institution's recommendations and is there a plan. for the next year, by and large, look , er, the mobilization must work effectively, for that you do not need changes in some
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mobilization system itself, for that you need, on the one hand, more effective control over how the mobilization is carried out, on the other hand it is extremely necessary to convey to the citizens, in particular with your help, with the help of independent media, that this is their constitution. the duty to defend the country, i already heard in the introduction to our interview that there is generally a misunderstanding of what mobilization and recruitment are and they mix it up, or think that recruitment should be instead of mobilization, here it is important to realize, see, recruiting is a way to... improve the service for citizens who are ready to join the armed forces of ukraine, but the appearance of recruiting and the efforts we are directing to there was an opportunity for those who
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want to join the armed forces, to choose a specialty, to go to a certain specialty , this does not mean that no one has to defend the country anymore, what i hear now, what those who draw conclusions from public statements, it sounds as if we will introduce recruiting, okay, so now only those who want will go to fight. everyone else will not go, and now everyone will be able to go to some specialties that are not related to combat operations, and let someone else fight, here it is extremely important to understand that it is everyone's duty to protect the country, a constitutional duty, and conscription is not designed to prevent anyone from joining the military, conscription is designed to ensure that those who want to join the military get. better conditions, a clearer path, the possibility of choice , this does not mean that we will not mobilize, it does not mean that everyone else does not have this obligation, that is, these are two
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processes that run in parallel, did zaluzhne say that it is too early to draw conclusions from how recruiting works, but he said that it is necessary to return to the previous framework, he was talking about mobilization, or can you explain what the commander-in-chief meant, what is the framework, is it... about the number of mobilized, is it about how the mobilization procedure should take place? it's not a very grateful task to explain what the other person wanted to say, i think what was meant was that we actually have everything from the point of view of the mobilization mechanism, we don't need to reinvent the wheel, we need to work on ensuring that the mobilization is carried out qualitatively and work on it. so that we can control this process better, you will understand that it is extremely important that we know.
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as a state about our citizens , military obligations, where they are, so that they update data on time, and so on, and so on, this is all a process that needs to be worked on, and according to the mechanism for this , there is no need to invent some fundamentally new one, recruiting, of course, it is still too early to evaluate, it is too early to evaluate, because we need , i think, at least three months for us to work, then we can then see how we were during those three months, see how the process of scaling the recruiting approaches is going and see what will be next period but again, recruiting will not replace mobilization, because recruiting is a service for those who are ready to join the armed forces, thank you for explaining this, and i would like to clarify, you say that it takes at least three months to analyze, currently there are already some estimates, there are how many people applied through recruiting, for example, to what extent it was, how much
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ukrainians responded to it. look, now at the first stage we see that there is feedback, there are applications, now we need to see, after this first stage, how, how it will go, how it is, that is, evaluate globally give an evaluation very difficult, because we are connecting more counterparties with whom we work, this process is only accelerating, now there is a certain optimism, in order to see how it works in reality, we need to see how much. conditionally, of those people who are interested in how many of them will actually reach the vlk, well, how many of them will later prove to be suitable and end up in the army, so it takes time, and which positions at the front are not critically closed, well, conditionally speaking, which you plan to recruit through recruiting, for example, previous ones do you have such plans, and which positions need to be covered in the armed forces due to mobilization? i always joke when people ask me what kind
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of questions they are. i imagine a russian intelligence agent who has now woken up, grabbed a pen and is waiting for me to give him a list of specialties that are critically lacking in the military, of course i will not do this, and i hope that none of the official representatives of the armed forces or the ministry of defense will not tell you what specialties are critically needed, well, without a name, maybe specifics, but is there work in that sense, or it is carried out, and when there is an order to professional military educational institutions, for example, and whether there is, let’s say , such work, whether there is such a certain scheme and whether there is a certain understanding in the ministry of defense, how many people are needed, don’t say this, but roughly at least in this direction, look, it's not just some stable understanding, it's a process that goes on constantly and these needs are constantly being updated, that is, of course, under the realities of war, it's constantly being done. these changes and
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in higher educational institutions know who it is necessary to train now first of all, who more, how has this need changed, so what can be said that now in connection with the specifics of this war, more specialties are definitely needed, which are related to the western sciences, computer technologies, e- eh , cybernetics, including, well, of course, we need specialists in air defense, artillery and so on, so... all this reflects the realities we have at the front, this dialogue between the armed forces and educational institutions is going on constantly. ilar, i will return, ah, well, i will return to general zaluzhnyi, to the commander-in-chief, he also noted that in the context of the effectiveness of the mobilization, that the military commissars who were dismissed performed their duties professionally and said that returning to the previous framework, does
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this mean that the newly appointed... military commissars are not coping with that, and how qualitatively this mobilization should look, because ukrainians today see a lot of videos on social networks, how people are just standing there in the middle of the street, or in gyms or in shopping centers, being grabbed by military commissars and tsk, that is, there is such a moment here , the question is whether it will continue unfold in such a format, and will your appeals, which you say are the duty of every citizen of ukraine, work? not to defend their country, will it be possible to have some kind of information campaign, or how do you plan to do this communication with the population, and again, here is the question of the military committees, if the soldiers say that the previous ones did better, will there be any change here? eh, let's ask the first question, i don't want to comment on the words of the commander-in-chief and explain
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