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because, for example, one of the functionaries , the representative of the russian councils, said that the increase in crime among russian children is the fault of the ukrainian authorities, which, i did not even understand how, you know, there, how through games it should influence their urban, and you know , that everything that is wrong, everything, with adolf putin, for example, there is also a problem, yesterday with his military, he said that we... were started by the united states of america, you did not know that, they are probably some kind of green american men came to crimea, in a word, if you want to study antimatter, antilogic, anti-world, please, here are the russian quotation books, in the meantime we will see how the russian peace looks like in the temporarily occupied territories, the deputy chairman is in touch with us. viktor
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dudukalov of the berdyansk district council. mr. viktor, congratulations, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, congratulations. what's funny and funny to hear from berdyansk? we just quoted putin here, and he, the ladies from the state duma. and what do you hear from berdyansk? well, there 's just less and less fun, and what can we say about the cringe and just the mirror that we have today. sure, because you know well, a person sometimes receives a passport from three to five months, when the occupiers say that everyone must get a passport, and they cannot organize the process like this, and a person without a passport cannot live there normally and exist normally, as we know, in addition, this entire contingent that brought, the military contingent that brought not only russian peace, as we say, but also brought islam, as it turned out, but... there are leaders
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more important than the russians, that is, they have them there, we through ourselves they missed the fact that they have the caucasus to decide and more scumbags in many indicators than just russians , well, you know, and this is all unnatural, it does not enter our society, and there are separate ukrainians, separate local residents who hate the occupiers in queues for passports, but take that passport in order to survive, and ... they were not defeated by their forces , despite such a long occupation, that is, if it is possible to clarify in the same way as in the crimea, i apologize, that is, exactly as in the crimea in kadyrovka they suppress something and control it in berdyansk, they also operate there , well, they have different privileges caucasians, chechen-kadyrivians, yes , they have privileges, they are served separately there somewhere, i mean military, some of their logistics, they are... treated separately, they are paid
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attention to separately from the point of view of command respect and so on, that is, they decide there question, i think i recently saw that even in russia, muslims have certain privileges, christians do not, christians do not, there is no reason to be surprised, muslims have taken over russia from the inside, and today they are still smarting on our territory, and that is why the russians somewhere there they are still trying to grab something and show that they are they can do something, and in the case... they actually want to show their power on children, on teenagers, how they try to ask for forgiveness for ukrainian children, to ask for a terrible word, but this is how they actually act in berdyansk, in the temporarily occupied territories of the ukrainian south, the ukrainian regions i think that there really are portraits of soviet and russian people hanging in the schools, and what's more, the national anthem is sung as a matter of course.
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but not every day, well, that's a lot, it depends on the teachers, who are more or less eager to they fit, but they stuck everything possible inside there, well, remember the news at the beginning of the school year, when everyone was forbidden to have even the same different diaries, and they issued centralized diaries with symbols identical to each other, that is, children know, this is a diary the child expressed himself. someone with a car, someone with a football player had, everyone was banned, and please be the same, today they sing the national anthem, today in every class they see portraits of the president of a terrorist country, and we are talking about whether there is propaganda or not no, it's not propaganda, it's just , well, the nuts are twisted so much that the child doesn't even know which way to look anymore, where is the freedom at all, and the russians separately paid attention to children and... teenagers, that's why
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that they realized that they are not at all spoiled by sausage at 220, nor by the famous plombir, nor by soda, they are simply ukrainians, and that is why the russians pay special attention to them... and this propaganda is aimed at children , at teenagers, in them directly according to a separate article takes place according to a separate scenario very serious and what is the possibility that these terrible soviet school uniforms will return, such a complete unification that everyone walked the same way, somewhere there everyone is the same? well, i don't know, i can't make such a prediction, they announced a lot, but they didn't have enough money or intelligence to implement it . return normal to berdyansk, what are we talking about, what kind of school uniform today, that is, they will apply the standards, i think, which will be in fashion, in trend in the territory of their mainland of russia, but everything that happens in our occupied territory is all according to the final
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principle, because the civilian population is number two there, the army is number one there, as it was and remains, mr. viktor, look, i even look at such peculiar statistics from ... the fall of the prosecutor's office, two aunts from berdyansk, collaborators in this, they headed agreed that they would head a russian school and two schools were headed, i see an even more recent message on december 19, that is, yesterday, in the main office of the national police of the zaporizhzhia region reported the suspicion to a local resident of the occupied village of novo vasylivka, berdyansk district. he also held the position of director in the newly created occupation russian school, that is, their appetite of the russian-fascist occupier for ukrainian children is understandable, but why is there such a high level of collaborationism among educators
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, they are somehow individually pressed or they simply did not clean the soviet wool from schools of the zaporizhzhia region at one time, well, look , today we are talking about sentences and suspicions. about criminal proceedings, that is, what the police informs about. in fact, there are an incredible number of criminal proceedings today, just against educators, maybe the investigative unit worked better, and educators have already been worked on, the procedure for bringing them to justice, if officials and other officials, or those who for some reason do not answer officially at all is more difficult to attract, then it is already more or less clear from the educators what they are for... they apply the standards of the country of the aggressor and so on, besides, i am proud of our berdyan investigation, where i worked at one time, and this our berdyan investigators, who did not leave ukraine, who went to the controlled territory at the time of the occupation, and today they are bringing these educators to justice, but what are we talking about, the school director
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is there today, this does not mean that the educators with triple rows left there , up to 10% of collaboration in the educational sphere, as far as i remember statistically, and today they... asked at least someone to become a school director, i am looking not only at us and in the district in berdyansk, in general in the occupation, well, there really is such a person there no need took the positions of school directors, that in them physics and physical education are one and the same, it may be in their understanding, that's why, you know, well , through the prism of justice, through the prism of the realities that are happening there, so to speak, educators are not top collaborators , but we are talking about bringing them to justice, it is really effective today, that is, they are making a career. those who have relevant pro-russian views and that’s how it’s possible , victor, how long does it take to rewire children, so the younger they are, the cleaner the slate was, that’s just for the sake of it interesting, because we saw how children were interrogated
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in the temporarily occupied territories of donetsk and luhansk regions, and there the occupation has actually been going on for the 10th year, and a whole generation has already appeared there, in which stalin is in their heads. and the second zakharchenkos, here the situation has gone, the second year has passed, yes, it already has some result, that is , the younger generation is subject to reflashing, or not, or is it still not enough time? well, i would define it this way today, that there are already irreversible consequences, they definitely are, but i am not talking about some kind of propaganda and... my time of the children from the ukrainian side, when they were born and grew up, but you know, well , ukrainian slogans , ukrainian culture, and ukrainian songs were more natural to the children, and the occupiers, i think i already said, but the occupiers
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themselves admitted that it was quite difficult to change the shoes of the children, the children it is quite difficult to fix, and today i can say that there are irreversible consequences, but everything could have been... much worse, because it was absolutely natural and real for children to self-identify themselves as ukrainians, and today children feel that, well, that somewhere something is wrong here, that they... this is where they pour this russian propaganda, all this rhetoric and narratives, and they too, well, they feel this deception, in my opinion and according to my assessment, they feel this deception, much worse, when the children's parents from zambayashchik watched in their time, we never paid attention to why people, satellites of satellites have plates, that they watched 24/7, they watched solovyov and shabeeva. and they taught their children, and today, well, accordingly, that russian
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propaganda narrative, and today these children, pro-russian children, who grew up there in the occupied territory in their families, next to those who were ukrainians, and this is much more complicated, their society, they interact inside there, and pro-russian children are in favor today, they are today on horses, because attention is paid to them, they are set as an example, and so on, and accordingly. well, this whole press and propaganda is related to the parents of those children who are constantly monitored, messengers, correspondence, communication in their family, and we understand that today in this propaganda, we don't even know where to untangle, how to untangle that tangle, but i know for sure that today all is not lost, and our territory is awaiting deoccupation, was very determined and you know, it is very seriously did this. attitude towards children
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, young people, we understand who they are hunting, if it is about adults, these are alarming signals from the center of national resistance that they continue to kidnap people, people with a ukrainian position, sometimes it is whole families, and the actual accusation of extremism, well, what else can they accuse, who is primarily being hunted. who is in the greatest danger now? but in general, you know, everyone is in danger, everyone, because there are two extreme cases, and i will give examples, the first extreme is a woman 57 or 58 years old, who will be tried for distrusting the army or some delusional woman of theirs in the criminal code, who is there, who liked, who reposted while in classmates. sovietska reposted some post they didn't like among her classmates. and such a woman will suffer a lot
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there, and she suffers today, and she is held accountable. pro-russians who held certain positions there suffer in the same way, they also end up in the basement and are subjected to torture, which either the fsb supervisors did not arrange, or they stole something somewhere, or they were simply suspected of working for both sides , i don't say anymore. and i am already silent about those who are patriots by default, these are the members of the ato, these are those who went to the maidan in their time, i spoke with a woman who was detained and held twice with her minor son her in the torture chamber, simply because she went to the maidan at the beginning of the occupation, and we all went out at one time, that is, today as adults, the risk group is all 100% who are there, regardless of gender, regardless of age, regardless of from social status , from income, whatever, some are simply detained in order to later ask for a ransom,
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so i cannot define a certain category , i repeat, absolutely everyone is in danger there, and the last thing, in short, mr. viktor, what do you hear from berdyansk port at one time it was quite active, how is the situation there now, but no changes, you know, like the occupiers , at the beginning of the occupation, in the very first days of the occupation, they drove anti-aircraft defense there and all that, and well... and we understood that they would go to the port to pay attention separately, that is what happened, and they use it in their logistics, the railway cannot cope with the grain that they loot and take away, the railway cannot cope with scrap metal either, that is why the port is a transshipment logistics point, as of today i was informed there that an incredible amount of scrap metal goes right through the port, they began to activate it... these processes are taken out by sea, ammunition is brought in, they also use the civilian workers who
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remained there, despite the fact that they were reduced very seriously at the time , and there in the port too, the partisans believed that now the soviet union would deepen and expand it here, but in fact it turned out that it was, they laid the ukrainian flag at the entrance of their time at the beginning of the occupation processes, so that through it everyone passed under their feet so that it was there, and then you... so that the occupiers reduced all the personnel even worse, and today there are military personnel, it is a military facility, it is used for military purposes, for the purpose of military logistics. well, everything that is branching out inside the port is all connected exclusively with the war, and otherwise it is in tatters, all these mechanisms that could be taken to steal, these wagons that were left for scrapping or left whole were dismantled exported, everything, that is, well, the port today is such remnants,
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yes, mr. viktor, but literally in one word , a tobacconist and ee... balitsky and toronto television published correspondence that the two of them organized last year the theft of a signboard of ukrainian grain . to work with schemes, not to introduce them, i didn't see it, in short, but i will say that nothing happens there without the knowledge of the management and without their consent, moreover, everything is there, well, there is vertical. listen to it with a professional ear, then tell us about it next time. victor dudukalov, deputy chairman of the berdyansk district council, was in touch with us, but we continue to collect information from the south, we continue, we will talk about mariupol with petro andryushchenko, stay with us,
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adviser to the mayor of mariupol, as we already announced in our communication. we welcome you, mr. peter, to our atelier. i congratulate you, glory to ukraine. we just spoke with viktor dudukalov from berdyansk, and actually the situation there is sad, actually, because the russians are also trying to occupy not only physically, but also mentally. the city, how is mariupol holding up, yes and whether it is holding up at all, well , it is holding up as much as possible, given that the dynamics on the way out is maintained, but we are also observing a certain dynamics on the way in, unfortunately, completely, if at all summing up the results of the year , then we have approximately minus 40, well, from 30 to 40 thousand in real numbers, this is a reduced amount population in mariupol is ukrainian. part left, part is holding on, part , unfortunately, is no longer with us, but if we take into account what is holding on and the mental pressure, in particular on the ukrainians, on the mariupol people, then
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of course it gets worse and worse, unfortunately, because well apply a bunch of factors, if you take the influence of propaganda and the influence of persuasion, let's say so, yes, the main thing here is that they are used, they use children, and it really works very effectively, unfortunately, because... because children have become not just a subject, they also became an object of propaganda, that is, they are not simply reforged from ukrainians to russians, but they then drag all these narratives home, this is such a rather painful topic in fact, but on the other hand, you know, not without good news , we recently received regular papers from our insiders regarding education, which is about education in the occupied territory, in particular mariupol in the mariupol district. so here are the conversations, avagh talks, which they implement as the main means of influencing children, and they have to attend them in free time from studying, something somehow
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there is a very low turnout, fewer and fewer ukrainian children attend it, and pushelin even issues a circular accordingly that it is necessary to strengthen and ensure one hundred percent attendance, as it was a year ago, so it says, i think , as the best... that, in principle , our occupied territories are holding, even in spite of such a great psychological impact, well, let's hope that it will continue to be so, but really, the russians are constantly inventing something in order to do the life of our ukrainians, well, firstly, it is more difficult, and secondly, to give them less and less a choice between preserving the ukrainian identity or choosing the russian one. peter, look, according to the same patterns, they are operating in berdyansk and mariupol, but before that, we still remember all these stories right in the school
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yard, when fires were burning, that is, the russian-fascist occupiers, taking the example of their ally, adolf hitler, they burned books, in general, here are the statistics from your city council: 180,000 ukrainian books, and four libraries were destroyed, instead we let's watch and there is no such thing as an empty place, 9 tons of russian textbooks, i don’t know if this is a lot or a little, that is, this is what happened, you yourself said that a large number of pro-ukrainian people left mariupol, and those who are now in those in textbooks they learn how to sew, because moscow children, they are directly the carrier. precisely because of the fact that in those textbooks, that is, it is easy to make any kind of putin youth, pioneers, komsomol members, that is, this is their mentality, they like it, but
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what about in the process of re-stitching, even if parents-in-law were in-laws' moods, how mariupol children cross-stitch, willingly or not, or just like there was once a bolt, that here is a red tie, and then he writes bad words on lenin's portrait in the textbooks. well, the bad words on the portrait of lenin in the textbooks are written exactly, in fact, they are stitched together very, very difficult. the fact is that, well, it’s clear that some are re-stitched faster, some are re-stitched longer, some are not re-stitched at all, there is a lot here, really everything depends first of all on the family, but well, there is something to compare with, there is not much time yet passed, and it is not even a question of what the russians did to mariupol, it is very difficult for children to assess who, what, as well as the psychological tra... with which no one works, in fact it is difficult, but there are things that remember children are struggling, and it's not about books, and it's not even about textbooks, well, let 's face it, the main thing that... works
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with our ukrainian children, after all, it's the internet segment and gadgets and the free world , other things are added here, i.e. how our children could spend their free time during the time of ukraine, what they could buy, how they could to dress up, what was in the shops and so on, yes, what was in the cinema, eh, was there a cinema at all, or was there no cinema, and all these things, they are much more important, sorry for the books, but with these things in mariupol, well full doc. and that is why children compare not what is written in the textbooks published by ukraine, or what the russians are trying to organize these trainings, they compare their feelings and compare their knowledge, and compare what is happening in the media content itself, here we definitely win in fact, how long will it take, given all the blocking, well, i understood this question, how quickly de-occupation will come, but really, these are very complicated
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processes, but no... well, not all is lost, as they say, yes, if you have a plan, in principle , it will be very easy to return the children, much easier , than it seems now , taking into account that tons of this waste paper are being dumped there, it is not only about textbooks there, the main thing, apart from textbooks, they are being dragged, well , very revealingly, they are being dragged books with humanitarian aid, but recently they once again brought a bunch of books, russian books , what for they are drawn to russian books by pushkin , lermantov, tolstoy, dostoyevsky, and all the rest, well, excuse me, i think that punishing crimes is definitely not something that will bring children back to school age, to russian literature, and in principle and how they themselves say that a good russian dostoevsky is our spiritual teacher of russian fascism, and by the way, we have two minutes left, that basically in such a symbol of mariupol az akhmetov says
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that... such that nothing can be restored there and muscovites say that they want to create an industrial concern there, machine-building, something is happening there now, well, it’s probably the dam of azovstal azovsh, well, let’s say it this way, it’s final, and this is with azovmash, yes, that is, they want it there, yes, but the situation is the same, azovstal has been destroyed in a shunt, nothing with you can’t do it, demining it for another year in fact, that’s why all these promises have somehow already gone, that’s why... before that, the russians promised, now they promise about zavmash, zavmash, the same story is actually impossible to do and not even because of hostilities, but due to the fact that azovmash was managed by all of these a pro-russian bastard, and during his leadership there for the last 10 years, during the post-may revolution of dignity, he managed to loot it to such an extent that there was nothing left there except the walls, so to say that something can be restored there, there is nothing there to restore in principle, that is
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, you will not restore azovstal and aza... until, not even in spite of combat operations, it is destroyed, right? yes, yes, it was destroyed despite the fighting, it was headed there by the late, such an oligarch savchuk, who killed a significant number of his zovmash stole at one time, they placed part of it in france, part of it they placed in moscow, and all these survivors who formed the actual russian world starting from the 14th year, they are all survivors of this partial war, and even to this day, well, if the beginning of the full moon. after the invasion, they were formally his leaders and they robbed him, they still owe the people there so much wages that it is simply terrifying, that's why all this chatter, well, just another chatter for those who are just trying to believe in something, and for the pro-russian stratum population and other occupied territories, that something is happening here, everything is clear, thank you, mr. peter, petro andryushchenko, adviser to the mayor of mariupol,
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was in touch with us about... about the destruction in the city and the fact that now , a total russification, radinization, i would say, or principles that are also returning and being planted there from the soviet union, is characteristic of all temporarily occupied territories. now is the time for news, kateryna shiropoyas is ready to share information about the most important and most interesting at the moment, which need to know kateryna, you have a word. greetings, colleagues, in a moment i will tell you about the consequences of the night attacks on ukraine and about the training of ukrainians... on f-16 fighters. the information day on the espresso tv channel continues. on the air of news. kateryna shiropoyas works in the studio.

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