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they should read the 36th amendment now , everything is taken into account, thank you, thank you , don’t insist, so let’s move on, then the 66th mother does not insist, 60, i apologize, the 70th mazurasha does not insist, 71 niklyudov does not insist any more, thank you, 72nd - the coppersmith does not insist , 73rd mother, does not insist, 75th babak does not insist, 76th hryshchuk does not insist, 78 radutsky does not insist, 79th radutsky does not insist, 80th medyanik does not insist, 82 ustinova does not insist, 83 radutsky does not insist, 84 radutsky does not insist, 85 medyanyk does not insist, 87 strictly speaking no insists, 88 ustinovo does not insist, 89th gerashchyn and i know, i haven't had time to announce it yet, 89 klimpussensation, i see correctly.
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please, ivanna oristivna. yes, thank you, colleagues , with this amendment we propose, in fact, to define the amount, define, change the definition from 0.3% to 0.2%, the sign of the active substance in these medical preparations, but i would like to draw attention to otherwise, i would like to be real... i would be ready to work out with my colleagues the reservations we have regarding the need for real control over the circulation of these substances that will be used in the production of medicinal products with cannabis, and for us this is a principled position, and we would like the committee to still hear us and not ignore any amendments that are proposed, including ours.
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.practice, since we work precisely to improve the real system. do you insist, ivana orestivna? don't insist. thank you, let's move on. medyanik, does not insist. 91 pavlyuk, does not insist. 93 - kirylenko, ivan hryhorovych, does not insist. 94th - radutsky, does not insist. 95 alexiev does not insist, 96 gerashchenko. don't insist, you insist, but please, please, iryna volodymyrivna, and thank you very much, dear colleagues, we are undoubtedly very surprised by the fact that now, as always, during the discussion of such important, high-profile bills, it takes place in an empty hall, and this is a clear indication of the lack of interest of the people's deputies of ukraine, many of them, to understand what the draft law is about and what exactly the positions it defends, in particular the european one. it is important for us to hear
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the head of the specialized committee that our amendments were professional, constructive , aimed at making the use of cannabis for medical purposes work, but at the same time we put safeguards for illegal drug trafficking again, growing hemp there, you know, for all possible and impossible purposes, then we just don't understand, why did the committee not take into account our professional, professional, correct... amendments, and we will insist that such fuses, regarding a very serious matter, dear iryna volodymyrivna, once again confirm that the majority of amendments from your faction were really professional, most of these amendments that were rejected were taken into account, you know, in the summary amendments of the committee, and some are still under discussion, but i think we will take them into account as well. we rejected all of them, look
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, there are even more of mine rejected than yours, iryna volodymyrivna, thank you, don't insist , iryna volodymyrivna, you insist, then the 96th amendment authored by gerashchenko and colleagues, it was rejected by the committee, please vote for 32, the decision is not accepted, next. 97 - horbenko does not insist, 98 niklyudov does not insists, 99th repina, does not insist, sota medyanik, does not insist, 101 kasai, does not insist, 102 razumkov, dmytro oleksandrovich, we said that you would replace your amendments with the speech to and and then put one amendment on this, how many minutes did we negotiate
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, thank you ruslan oleksiyovych, dear colleagues, well , here the presidents mentioned the entire press conference, i would first of all like to remind the mono majority, you really like to say that you are the president's team, yesterday the president made it clear enough during his final press - conferences noted the number of his team, six, five, six people, so you... a little bit of one-sided love, and i think it's not connected enough to who the president really considers his team, i think the servant factions there are no people there, just like in this hall those whom he really considers part of his team. looking
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at what some colleagues say and do, both in the walls of the parliament, on the air, and in general, one gets the impression that in ukraine... cannabis is already legalized and not only medical, when we hear about the mobilization of women, when you and i hear about the confiscation of citizenship, when you and i hear about vacations instead of mobilization, when our boys and girls are actually fighting at the front for two years, and they are not sitting in warm offices, they are not sitting in the walls of the verkhovna rada, i understand that everyone... should work in his direction, but everyone should also respect each other, unfortunately, this is not observed in our country today. when i'm talking about doing completely pointless things,
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i'm talking about returning checks, i'm talking about allocating additional funds for ministry of foreign affairs. 1.4 billion, which should then go to the target of minefields, and many other things that simply do not fit into a sane head, or maybe it simply does not exist. if the chairman of the committee mentioned here that we lost missiles, we lost airplanes at the beginning of our independence, that is true, i will not argue with him... but let's not go too far into history and address those in this room , unfortunately, there is none, and maybe fortunately there is none. let's better remember those who are in this hall, and who bought 17 eggs, who
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covered the purchase of summer jackets at the price of winter jackets, who purchased shells at the beginning of the war, who purchased mines. who did not come to the state , which is fighting for its existence, to those, let's turn , let's not run to the beginning of our history, i think we must first start with ourselves, let's remember how they deceived and lied to the business that was told about that taxes will be reduced until the end of the war, at least plus one year after we win, there will be no audits and... and when the president said that, i wholeheartedly supported him, but unfortunately he didn't keep his promise and when he said yesterday at the press conference that there will be no mobilization of women, my only big wish is that his promise that he won't sign this law will not happen the same , as happened with
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the return of taxes and inspections for ukrainian business, you just have to be responsible for your words and your actions. it was also talked about a lot yesterday, we generally like to talk a lot about it, they don't like to do it. when we talk directly to you about medical cannabis law, it has been in the walls of the parliament for many months, and when our team and other people's deputies in this hall spoke and appealed to the ministry of health with a request that you sign it, simply change your resolution and give people the opportunity to get... medicine even then, here everyone was running around the bed, saying, no, it can’t be done, it can’t be done, because then we won’t be able to open the market, but simply change the regulation, transfer it from one table to another and allow bringing here medicines, they just didn't want to, it's just
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that the law then is not about medicines, not about taking care of our defenders, children who really need them, who are sick with various serious diseases. diseases, and this is a question about money, about production and about the fact that someone in this hall wants to make money from it, and look, now in the hall everyone is happy. most of those parents for this law are simply not there, but where are they all? they so wanted to talk, so wanted to discuss the amendments, they were so unhappy that this law was being considered for a long time, let's just do it again they will show how many people are in the hall, and this is the first day when the verkhovna rada is working, the first, not even the second, not the third, in the hall i think there are about 50 people's deputies, no more, and some none... i don't see a great fighter for the adoption of this law here, if i do
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, please raise your hands, no, if you and i continue to talk about what will happen to our state, well, at this rate, we will simply lose it, lose it, despite the fact that today our boys and girls at the front are doing everything to ensure that it is preserved, so that it remains the state of ukraine. did not become part of russia, but i'm not sure that many in this room really need it, and one more important point, we are today looking at a lot of absolutely incomprehensible, unnecessary on the front, a lot of incomprehensible and unnecessary on the front, instead of to consider demobilization legislation to consider legislation that will reduce the cost of fuel, reduce the cost of... generators and many other things that
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the country needs today, so going back again to the president's press conference, is i am impressed that it might really be worth holding elections, but they just can't do it without you yet, thank you, dear colleagues, let's move on, please, the next amendment, 103 pavlyuk does not insist, er 104th dmitrieva does not insist, 105 knyazhytsky does not insist, he insists, but petrovych, petrovych, petrovych, who will be there, but, vyatrovych, i apologize, vyatrovych, you, you are the second author of this correction, good day, dear colleagues, i support the legalization of cannabis in the use of cannabis for medical purposes , therefore actually voted for this bill in first reading and disappointed with what it has become by second reading, unfortunately, a lot of our important constructive amendments are not taken into account and... one of them is 105, which provides for the creation of a new list number four of table one for cannabis. amendment
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105 seeks to exclude this list. if we are talking about the legalization of the medical use of cannabis, then it should be moved to schedule two. this should be done by the government by amending its own regulation with these tables. for unknown reasons, the government does not do this and we do not today received answers about this from the minister of health. instead, the government itself introduced this bill. in the transitional provisions, he asks that... the verkhovna rada obliges him to transfer cannabis from table one to table two. but leaving cannabis in list one entails risks for doctors who will use cannabis-based medicines for patients, because in table one there are drugs that are prohibited for everything, including medical use. what is the committee's position on the 105th amendment? the position of the editorial committee is rejected, it is not corresponds to the concept of the draft law on introduction. put to a vote, then i
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put amendment 105 to the vote, it was rejected by the committee, authors and colleagues, please vote. for 28, the decision has not been made, dmytro oleksandrovich, yes, we agreed, you will put one amendment, i apologize, please, razumkov, number 800, the amendment and several similar amendments, but i will stop at only one, since we agreed, the amendment refers to the fact that the law enters into force six months from the day following its date publishing, but this edit says that two days after typing. in force to instruct the cabinet of ministers to make changes to the relevant tables of the list of narcotic drugs,
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allowing the use of cannabis-based medicines, so as not to play around with the fact that something will be developed while we are doing it, so that we really enable our citizens who need medical cannabis-based medicines to get them quickly , not delaying it for six months as proposed in this bill, so i'm very hopeful, well...not hopeful yet, in hall of 50 people's deputies, but i would very much like such correct amendments to be adopted, i do not understand why the committee rejected them. thank you. and now we will find out the position of the committee. dmytro oleksandrovich, you are very right. this amendment, but i'm just asking you to read amendment 795, which is included in the consolidated committee amendment. 800 amendment of the authorship of the intellectual collection, please, mykhailo borisovych, i put this amendment as requested by dmytro oleksandrovich, you have passed
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all your amendments, as we agreed, the last one let's just take it into account, i put 800 amendment to take into account the authorship of the people's deputy. razumkov and colleagues, please vote for 37, decision, decision not taken, 106a sovsu does not insist, 108 ustinov does not insist, 110 mazurasha does not insist, 111. kasai does not insist, 114 pavlovsky does not insist, 116 kirylenko ivan hryhorovych does not insist, 117 marikovsky does not insist, then 118
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does not insist, 119 does not insist, 120 ivchenko does not insist. 121 ivchenko does not insist, 122 does not insist, 123 does not insist, 124th does not insists, 125, gerasimov, who will be? pavlenko, please, please, give 125, 126, 127 and 128, and these are four, they just relate to one subject, i will not put them to a vote. but 3 minutes , please, please, 3 minutes instead of your amendments, yes, yes, yes, thank you, dear colleagues, very important issues are being discussed now, and i would like our viewers who will be watching us tonight , or when there will be a rada channel broadcast,
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drew attention to the things that colleagues emphasize when speaking about it... bill, because it says something that you will not be told, simply describing how good it is to legalize cannabis in our country, because cannabis as a medicine is absolutely important and necessary, but we must remember that the essence of the matter depends on how it will be regulated when it enters into force, colleagues talked about this a little, how will the supply of these drugs be ensured, when will we actually be able to get all these drugs? in response to colleagues' questions, we heard that in principle everyone is very optimistic, but you know, the criterion of truth is always practice, and so if this bill is not changed now, i'm very afraid that the predictions that we're hearing about how easy it will be to get
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the drugs to... for those who really need them, how the wounded will be able to get there in a timely manner therapy, how cancer patients will be able to get relief from their condition and so on , so that it does not happen that everything will remain predictions, as we have already seen many times, examples of the mining business were given here, other examples of things that do not happen as expected , so what should happen with... now in the hall - this is the approval of those amendments that would really remove the main risks of the existing draft law, which would allow us to be sure that the production will be under control, also that, on the other hand , these medicines will be available for the sick, for the wounded, and that we will definitely not
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remember this day as a day of promises , given, as a day of optimism that was expressed, and then as a day of, you know, such informational materials that are for everything good against everything bad, and then this would not happen, and another request to the chairman of the committee, not to this draft law, on the future, if the edits are taken into account, then i think that it is possible to write editorially taken into account there, well, the truth is, it would make the work much faster, thank you. thank you, we don't bet, good , yes, it was 128, yes, yes, good, seventh, seventh, yes, 120. until the 128th it was yes yes 129 do not insist 130 do not insist 1319
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please artur volodymovich grasyv thank you oleksandr serhiyevich let's continue our discussion with the head of the committee because the archives do not burn as they say, so we will leave this conversation in the analog of history, see one remark that was real - that the term this usage contains an insufficiently precise formation and, roughly speaking, here, for example , yes, how many times does the term often and so on, and so on and so on, and because of this, there may be, let's say, different interpretations of this term law enforcement agencies, and this is exactly what can be used, and for and against those who will be engaged in this industry, but i would like to hear from mr. mykhailo, about recreational use, and about ... the wording that you used in the law, yes, to what extent it is checked and how you, let's say, have already programmed it there they discussed solving the problems
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that it can cause, what problems it can lead to, thank you, thank you, dear artur volodymyrovych, we have only one definition: the recreational use of cannabis is prohibited in ukraine, and this law proves it once again, one time, 10 times, anything without a doctor's prescription, everything... forbidden period, don't insist, uh, yes 130, don't insist, 131 don't insist, 132 don't insist, 133 don't insist, 134 don't insist, 135 don't insists, 136 do not insist, 137 do not insist, 138 myvchenko kabachenko, no, uh, 139, we don't insist on something, 140, i have to voice them all 141 medannik doesn't insist, 142 dmitrieva doesn't insist, yulia volodymyrivna, please 143 and there's another 10
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minutes, mykhailo borisovych, carry out sanitary measures, please the most sanitary, you mean the applicants, 10 minutes tymoshenko, and hon. friends, i want to remind the verkhovna rada that, in principle, our country has a constitution. according to the constitution, we have no right to consider any matter in this chamber unless 226 plus deputies are present in the chamber. i claim that we are just with ours the team counted all the deputies who are now in this hall and counted. as many as 71 deputies and every 5-7 minutes there are 10 deputies less. now we are practically
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shooting this hall from the podium together with my words. there is no constitutional number of deputies in the hall that meets the requirements of the constitution in order to make amendments. just in case, i know the answer, dear friends, and you know it, but i, just in case... just in case, i will turn to oleksandr serhiyevich and ask him to simply make one honest, fair, banal procedure, put to vote now who is present in the hall and count the people, just check the presence now, and i very much ask you to do this, if we are really a parliament, if we are an honest parliamentary team, and if we are not... misleading the ukrainian people. oleksandr serhiyevich, please confirm how many people are in the hall now. it should be done simply as a registration. be
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a weasel, you can, i will ask you a question. this is a right, the right of the head, which is not an obligation. we have already been through this several times. so at the moment i will not use this right, but i will use another right and duty of the chairman and call on the people's deputies to come to the hall urgently. to carry out my constitutional duty and increase our really such a number, i am not sure whether it is 70, i do not know, but to return to the performance of my parliamentary duties, thank you, yulia volodymyrivna, add another minute, please, i absolutely am, dear friends, i am sure that now there are no more than 71 people, because while we were talking, another dozen deputies came out, that is, in fact, the hall was empty. and what we are now filming, video, we will report to the constitutional court about the invalidity of voting for these amendments and about the invalidity.
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then as a consequence of the adoption of the law on the so-called medical cannabis in quotation marks, and i completely understood oleksandr serhiyevich that he did not put it now to confirm the registration of deputies for voting, i absolutely understand, because he has an empty hall in front of his eyes, and if he now puts it on voting, the presence of deputies in the hall, then he needs to take the next constitutional step, that is to stop... stop this one nonsense, because this is not a meeting of the verkhovna rada, and this is not a plenary session, and to announce that there are no deputies in the hall, and further amendments cannot be voted on, but given that oleksandr serhiyevich did not do this, it means that any further , any votes in this room are unconstitutional, which is why i'm going to try to make
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a simple announcement now. our position, as we see today, the use of medical cannabis in ukraine, after that our faction, realizing that what is happening in the hall now is not a vote, it is a deception of the country, it is profanation, we will certainly leave the hall, but at the same time i would like to announce our position, but first, the most important thing is that we, as a parliament, must demand from the government. if indeed cannabis preparations, medical cannabis are effective, as some factions prove, then immediately, according to the resolution signed by shmyhal in the 21st year, please buy the preparations if you really want to treat patients who need these medical cannabis preparations . dear friends, i also want
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to inform you that our... team has contacted three manufacturers of these drugs in the world, there are only three of them, there are only two legalized drugs in the world. we contacted these manufacturers. first of all, it is an absolute lie that these drugs cost $900, they will cost in bulk, depending on the name of the drug , from $20 to $25 per package. that is, they do not buy this drug because they do not plan to treat it. cancer patients with pain syndrome, or perhaps military personnel with pain syndrome, are not planned to be treated, and please tell me how any bureaucrat, official, deputy can say from this podium what is in the budget there are not enough funds to buy drugs, to treat our wounded or cancer patients, this is absurd, that's right, they don't want to buy, and this law is only about the drug mafia, about its
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rule in ukraine. about the legalization of the drug mafia, about billions of revenues and not in hryvnias, and about who was paid outside this hall, outside this hall, and in this hall, who was paid for turning ukraine into a drug den so that, in fact, as the minister of health says that 6 million ukrainians need marijuana, we have it at the meeting of the faction, he said, friends, great britain writes out from 100 to 150 prescriptions a year by doctors' councils per year, and we have 6 million, they plan to resemble marijuana. tell me, please, where are the capacious ones, damn it, where can you feel them and who has them in this country? dear friends, we have proposed a very clear and clear concept: first, we need
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proof-of-concept drugs. buy them immediately, you have a regulation for this, and two marijuana drugs are legalized. the second, very important thing: if you want to make some cannabis-based drugs for our patients, there are no problems, you are creating a state-owned, state-owned enterprise that is closed, under control, calculate exactly how much it is necessary to produce marijuana medicines exactly for patients in ukraine, and those. you can grow only this amount under state control in laboratory conditions, make a drug in laboratory conditions and give free of charge under full state control to patients who need it, but no, our amendments, which will now be put to a vote...

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