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tv   [untitled]    December 21, 2023 2:30am-3:01am EET

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you need proof drugs, buy them immediately, for this you have a decree and two marijuana drugs are legalized. second, and very important, if you want to make some cannabis-based drugs for our patients, there are no problems. you are creating a state-owned, state -owned enterprise that is closed, under control, calculate exactly how much medicine you need to produce from marijuana, exactly for... sick people in ukraine, and you can grow only this amount under state control in laboratory conditions, make a drug in laboratory conditions and free of charge, under the full control of the state , to give free of charge to the sick who need it, but no, they did not accept our amendments, which will now be put to a vote, because they do not like medical drugs from cannabis. needed
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, and they need to give the government the opportunity to sell licenses to the drug mafia for bribes, the drug mafia to earn billions from this together with our law enforcement officers, and as a result to create a wild market for marijuana drugs in ukraine, well, self-winding, smoke it somewhere, swallow it, and just our ukrainian nation during the war bring to a state of collapse. that's what they have, and they also predicted that it will be possible to manufacture in pharmacies, you can simply load raw materials into pharmacies, make self-winding machines in pharmacies and then distribute them to people, such happiness has come to ukraine. dear friends, i want to remind you that the parliament, this parliament in ukraine is hated, you know that the deputies of this parliament are cursed in the country, that they say that when they return... from the front
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they will shoot everyone here, they say that they hate every deputy of this this convocation, do you know why? because you pass laws against the people, against freedom, you pass laws against democracy, you pass laws that destroy the sovereignty of our people, you pass laws that destroy the health of the nation, you take away people's businesses. "you are carrying out orders to destroy ukraine, and that is why this parliament in the country is hated with fierce hatred. i know that today, right now, maybe 25 people are left in this hall, and what i say will not hear, well, in principle, those 300, which for funds, for kickbacks, or for intimidation from the president's administration will vote for this terrible law to turn the country into a drug house." yes, there are none, they will then
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come stupidly, mindlessly push the button and give the country another tool to destroy our nation, but those who realize, those who know, those who count, don't give a single vote for this crime, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, dear colleagues, we have an air raid in kyiv, that's why i announce a break in the meeting. they are worried when the next meeting will be, it will be after the air alert is over, so until the next meetings, we will continue, thank you.
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please invite the deputies to the hall, not all of them are reliable here, and it is noteworthy that there are two heads of the committee, as we see it. so to speak, they give an example, one euro-integration, euro-atlantic, and motor-fisherman.
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we continue our plenary session that was held. interrupted by treacherous air alert, so we stopped, yes 144 don't insist, 145 don't insist, 146 don't insist, 147 don't insist, 148 they insist, 149 they don't insist, 150 they don't insist, 151 they don't insist, oleksii 152, the medic doesn't insist, maksym viktorovych 153rd. vasylyovych, i’m sorry, well, yes , sovsu does not insist, tymoshenko was, yes, artur volodymyrovych, 156, please, thank you,
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oleksandr serhiyovych, dear ms. olya, i would like to continue the discussion with the committee, look, one of the points that also cause anxiety among many people regarding this draft law, here... it is actually assumed that the organization and principles of sowing, growing processing, and this is the key story in this law, should be determined by a separate, as yet unknown, law. how is it proposed to organize this procedure, is this law already ready, is it being developed, in which committee will it be considered, in yours or in the committee on agrarian policy, and in general, what is its fate now , thank you law enforcement, please answer, and see, according to 154th 150, yes, and, and, the 156th amendment, it is similar to the 151st amendment, which proposes not to make changes to the definition of table one, but in concept of the draft law, we supplement the list of
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medicinal products that can be used in medical practice with a new list of four. why do we do this, in order to settle the opportunity used. the use of medicinal products based on medical cannabis, but still limit the possibility of using plants in medical practice, because we would like medicinal products to be made from plants, and not, as they say, we smoked it in fact, this is the construction, it was invented for that very reason, and you will bet on the vote, won't you, okay? 157 deviation do not insist 158 ​​do not insist 159 mazurashov do not insist 160 razumkov does not insist ok 161 pavlyuk does not insist 162 dmitrieva does not insist 164
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dmitrieva does not insist 165 dmitrieva does not insist 166 sovsuna insists 167 tymoshenko was 160. 8 does not insist, 169 does not insist , 170 no insists, 171 does not insist, 172 does not insist, 173 does not insist, 174 does not insist, 175 does not insist, 176 does not insist, 77 does not insist, 178 does not insist, 179 does not insist, 180 does not insist, 171 was, 182 does not insist, 183 was, 184. does not insist, 185 does not insist, 176 does not insist, 177 does not insist, 188 does not insist, 190, 189 does not insist, 190 does not insist, 191 does not insist, 192 does not insist, 123 does not insist,
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124 not insist, 195 not insist, 196 insist , not insist, 198 not insist , 199 not insist, 200 not insist, 201 not insist, 202 not insist, 203, not insist 204 na insist 205 insist 206 not insist 207 insist 2009 not insist 209 please friz da iryna or artur volodymyrovych who is artur volodymovych, please, thank you, oleksandr serhiyovych, mrs. olya, look, i thank you for yours. explanation on this amendment, but there the question was generally according to the law, i would like to repeat it, that you see, in what concerns the organization and principles of sowing, growing , processing, well, plants, it should be determined by a separate law, which is still unknown. tell me, please, whether there is already work on this law and where it
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will end up in your committee, in the committee on agrarian policy, or maybe law enforcement, we simply do not know whether there are already any opinions from about this and whether this issue was considered at... during the discussion of this law, thank you. look, i did not fully understand why you think that these issues are not settled here, in fact, in this text we will take them into account. in fact, all the processes that will apply to both sowing and growing, production and even sale of medicinal products in pharmacies, therefore , these issues are already regulated in the law, or i did not fully understand your question, you do not ask, yes, no, okay, yes 210 do not insist, 211. please freezer 211.
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thank you very much, mr. chairman, from 211 to 231, please replace it with 3 minutes, please, 3 minutes fries, the beginning, yes, thank you very much, first of all i also wanted to emphasize that the european solidarity faction has consistently advocated the need for the introduction of clear and understandable. rules for society regarding the need to introduce medical cannabis into circulation. i emphasize once again: european solidarity for rules for the regulation of medical cannabis, but we emphasize that in the form in which the draft law is currently presented, not a single amendment made by the representatives of the european solidarity was not taken into account, i believe that this is, you know, a kind of know-how that was invented during this convention, when the representatives from the opposition faction, their
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legislative initiatives or their amendments are not taken into account at all in the bills, so all our proposals that were aimed at improving the draft law, which we had adopted after the first reading, are considered such that they would still be ... which were reviewed by the committee and taken into account, especially those related to the first circulation, the second - control, the third - transparent and clear, accessible to all the rules that will function and that are implemented by the state, and in addition, we believe that certain regulations and inconsistencies of the articles in the specified edition contain legal ones. certainty, which may in turn carry corruption risks. we cannot
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take the risk with you when we pass a bill that is sensitive enough and relevant enough and weighty for everyone who 100% expects qualitative changes from the parliament, a bill that will not contain, er, what will not meet expectations. both patients and their family members and players in this market, in view of this, we turn to the specialized committee with a proposal to return to the review of those amendments that were relevant and that contain substantive and conceptual changes to the said edition, so that they were taken into account and adopted in... the detailed consideration of this draft law. thank you. thank you,
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maryna vasylivna. please. yes, we are moving on. it was our 200 19th. ugh. by 231. uhu. so. 220 does not insist, 221 does not insists 222 does not insist. 223 does not insist, 224 does not insist. 225 does not insist. 228 does not insist, 226 does not insist, 228 does not insist , 230 does not insist, 231 does not insist, 232 does not insist , 233 does not insist, 234 does not insist, 235 does not insist, 236 does not 237 does not insist, 238 does not insist, 239 does not insist insists, 240 mother does not insist. 241 medak does not insist 242 does not insist 243 does not insist 2445 insists 246
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insists 247 insists 248 insists 249 insists 250 insists 251 does not insist 200 252 artur volodymyrovych please thank you oleksandr serhiyovych e see, regarding this draft law , there is one more important point that i would like ukrainians to know today, to be honest, the key goal is the key goal for cannabis-based drugs to be distributed, well , roughly speaking, like ordinary medicinal drugs. drugs with narcotic content, such as morphine, and their use and sale were simplified, this is a key story in order to make it more accessible to patients, but for this, frankly, a law is not needed, it could be decided on the basis of the decisions of the cabinet of ministers of ukraine, and to be honest, i have the impression that the cabinet of ministers simply transferred this to
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the verkhovna rada in order to shift responsibility, i would like to hear the reaction of the specialized committee at this very moment, whether it was possible to solve it at the cabin level, or indeed , the adoption of the law of ukraine by the verkhovna rada was necessary. thank you. please. i, first of all, want to say that i am very grateful to all the deputies who submitted amendments, because in fact, and before the previous speech, i want to note that some of the amendments you raised were partially taken into account in the consolidated amendment of the committee. that is, we collected all the constructions that were acceptable for this draft law and took them into account in the committee amendment, including this european solidarity amendment. more than 200 amendments have been taken into account either in part or in full, so it cannot be said that no amendment has been taken into account. many deputies made this draft law better, and we are actually very grateful
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for that, and we are still working on adopting some of the amendments, that's why. well, this is very important to understand, regarding the resolution, well, i want to do it again to emphasize that almost two years ago , the cabinet resolution was already adopted, which allowed the use of only a few medicines, and even these medicines, which were allowed by the cabinet of ministers, have not yet entered ukraine, why, somewhere. not insisting 265 not insisting 266 not insisting
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less i'm heard the less we all have. then problems 302 does not insist, 303 does not insist, 304 does not insist, 306 does not insist, 307 does not insist, 308 does not insist, 309 does not insists, 310 doesn't insist, 311 doesn't insist, 312 doesn't insist, 313 doesn't insist, 314 doesn't insist, 315, please ivana vorostivna klinpuzh censadze, will you bet, and could i take 3 minutes instead of 315 and 33? yes, of course, let's go, please, and thank you, and look, dear colleagues, in fact, we consistently, voting from the first reading for this bill, we strive to find a way to help all those in need in our country to take advantage of
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the opportunity to have access as effectively as possible . to to you to those medicines that will help them ease their physical or psychological condition, and we understand how critical it is, critical is the need to really ensure this at the state level. we also understand that in the form in which this bill is currently proposed to be adopted, it, unfortunately, does not provide real serious state control over the use of medical cannabis, but... we offer precisely the elements of certainty in the regulation of the circulation of cannabis and we propose amendments that reduce the scope of discretion of authorized authorities. of this discretion, which today the law gives to different people authorities, and because it is obvious that we would count on the fact that we can achieve
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a review of our decision by a committee by a specialized committee in order to really come to a decision that will give people the opportunity to use these medical drugs as soon as possible and at the same time not. .. will not create the conditions for, well, such a bacchanalia with the use of these medical drugs in ukraine, and that is why we hope and really appeal to the committee again, i understand that you went there with some, well, such a creative solution as you consolidated the amendments and you think that we should also agree that our amendments were taken into account in some consolidated committee amendments, but we can't... we can agree with that, there are critical things that we will continue to insist on and we hope, that common sense will really prevail, and we in this hall, when finally
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, perhaps, the necessary number of deputies will gather, we will be able to make a decision that the state and the people so need, but apart from that, we are also concerned about the history that the government today admits that even under the conditions approval according to the law, we will not... have our medical drugs in the next, at least three years, and this will definitely not be a solution to the issue and problem, but which one is needed already today. thank you, you will remind me of ivan orstivna's numbers, there are 315, 315, 333, 361, 382 and 347. ugh. thank you. yes 316 300 don't insist 317 was 318 don't insist
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insist 391 don't insist 392 don't insist 393 don't insist 394 don't insist 395 don't insist 396 don't insist 397 don't insist 398 don't insist 399 don't insist 400 don't insist 401 don't insist 401 don't insist 401 404 your exit what's up thanks alexander sergeyevich see another question ms. oli, according to this law, the amendments that we passed earlier related to this, but then mr. mykhailo was at the podium, i would like to discuss this with you, you used the term drug in a certain way, and here in the drug you are there, which contains substances, and or and or and or? plants, but the question is that if you include, introduced in the definition of the drug, the term substances, active, etc., yes, it cannot contain plants, and we
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have discussed this very often in discussions with... that this can lead to negative consequences , again, when the law enforcement agencies try to put pressure on those who will really help patients, the question is very simple: is it correct from your point of view that both active substances and plants are called simultaneously defined drugs, thank you, please answer this biological quest, but first of all i want to say what kind of... project was discussed for three months with all factions and also with the cabinet of ministers and with the national police , we probably had six meetings in order to spell out the terms in a clear way, that is why we believe that as it is written today in this bill, it will make it possible to use only
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plant-based drugs for treatment. from medical cannabis, not the plants themselves, so far it is written in draft law, no, no-no, no, if , if you look at how we wrote it in the table, in the tables, yes, then we have a list number four, yes, we are talking about medicinal products, and what concerns the finding plants, in the first list, it is from them that the drug should be produced, and then it already becomes... yes 403 do not insist, 404 no 405 do not insist, 406 do not insist, 407 do not insist, 408 do not insist, 409 do not insist, 410 do not insist, 411 do not insist, 412 do not insist, 413 insist, 414 insist, 415 insist, 416 insist, 417
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insist. 417 insists, 419 insists, 420 insists, and 416 niklyudov, please excuse me, oleksandr sergeyevich, thank you very much, i have 416, 430, 439, 480, 487, 5401, 562, 659, 664, 844, 8053 , 11, please give me 3 minutes, i want, give me 5 minutes. yes, three, three, three is enough for me, sister of talent, you know, please, three minutes, i didn't bother at first, not even a minute will be enough, i will not chase pr there, yes, i want to say that this bill really should have been discussed in society, as in europe , they have been talking about it for a long time, and we were there, and when colleagues visit countries, they see that it
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has been regulated there for a long time. we are currently having quite strong discussions, i want to agree that if the cabinet of ministers, the honorable speaker, mrs. stefanichna, makes a report, i think it would not be superfluous for them to be present here and also express their position, since they are preparing 770 resolution, which even now is such... yes, uh, the main such book, one might say, for qualification, without it, the investigator cannot qualify, but nothing, without those definitions there, without that mass of dry-cleaners guilty of recalculation , which is there and so on, so i think that all this approach, which is in the draft law, it is described, that the circulation of cannabis is regulated only in
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medical industrial activities, they should... talk about it, what are the risks for society, for young people, how should the state regulate it, of course, there are many questions, but i think the main question is the fight against criminal gangs that distribute hard narcotics, it the main thing, and of course, if i'm even here talked to specialists about it, they say that law enforcement is important from the point of view of... strengthening our defense capability, because i didn't know that cannabis could be used to produce gunpowder, so, of course, from that point of view, i already i look at this draft law in a different way and think that it would be really timely for the industrial purposes and for the medical purposes mentioned, provided that all these...

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