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on weekdays from 20 to 22 for espresso. sikorskyi, the new head of the polish foreign ministry, arrived in kyiv, and this is his first visit abroad in his new position, as a minister. let's see what they will talk about, we remember that we have a really important matter, yes, the border, and we hope that this visit will be able to. to move it from its place, we also have a new guest for our viewers, whom we immediately congratulate on energy day, because he is our former minister of fuel and energy, now the chairman of the board of the union of the all-ukrainian energy assembly ivan plachkov, mr. ivan, congratulations on the holiday, er, congratulations, congratulations, good health to everyone, thank you, thank you, i also congratulate all my colleagues, energy workers, who today make everything possible and impossible, they are real heroes.

they are fantastic professionals, they are organized, they are responsible and provide the country with heat, electricity, no matter what, they, they are doing a great, great thing, heroic, i would say, is there an occasion now, is there a reason to celebrate, i talking about whether our energy system is so now provided, reliably protected, so that both energy workers and ordinary ukrainians can calmly wait for some possible cold, frost and generally this winter darkness? eh , well, look, eh, we need to celebrate , well, you know how to celebrate, celebrate during the war, we already celebrate many holidays, according to the situation, well, we need a holiday and a holiday... if we were to congratulate the energy workers, what about

today's situation, well, well well, it's very difficult, the energy industry entered the heating season without the necessary... margin of safety, if in pre-war times it was at the level of 30%, now we have 5-10%, we remember the result of the last autumn-winter maximum was damaged, destroyed, even at least 30, i think even about 40% of the infrastructure, but a lot was restored, everything that could be restored was impossible, ensured a balance , well, even today we work in conditions where, if there were such shelling, rocket attacks, there is also damage at power plants, along networks, but the energy industry prepared, and if earlier some damage was eliminated there for a week, or maybe more, now it is eliminated for by

times, there is a maximum of 24 hours, so, well, if the energy workers were working, working, i think they would do... everything to make the system work, and we hope for the main factor, and the main factor today is air defense, the protection of our energy objects, and we can already see that it is significantly strengthened, the objects are protected, and we will, if we will, we will live, we will live on, we will survive this winter, we will endure if there are any... problems, we know how to behave , we have generators, uh, backup, systems, for heating, for morning break and so on, so we live in a time of war, cruelly, for every citizen

there are some algorithms, already developed habits or even some individual preparation, and for the country we saw such a situation now, but when it got a little colder, well, it was in the area mine 6 - -8° the peak consumption of electricity began in the evening and we were informed about a temporary shortage of electricity, then it was replaced by transfers from europe. to what extent it can save us, if, for example, we only had a shortage due to frost, well too many devices were turned on by the population, as much as they were not asked for, and what if some destructive missile attacks were added to that. how much can this european import save us? look, we work together in the united energy system in such a way in the european space, we remember that on the eve of the war, ukraine distanced itself from the russian

russian-belarusian energy system and we joined the european so-called nsoe, and this gives us the opportunity to ensure... reliability things are energetic and if necessary, we can import a certain one the amount of electricity, how much, well, we can somewhere up to 2-2 megawatts, now it's a lot, it 's a lot, it will fill two nuclear power units, and now it's being carried out as technical technical assistance and that's it. provided for in parallel work agreements, but i know that a relevant decision has been made, and such commercial contracts for the flow of european electricity are currently being prepared

. and we know that ukrenergo a few days ago... became as a full member of the nssh, this is, as it were, the final completion of the collective work that we created to integrate the ukrainian system into the european one, and if possible, we export electricity to european countries, this is also help and financial assistance for our energy industry, that is, this is a matter that we started back in the 90s? and it is completed, and this is a strategic matter for ukraine, this is an incredible projection, and this is an incredible achievement for ukraine. mr. ivan, it's great that we can actually join this large european energy system

use what it gives us, do we also have some obligations in the energy sector in connection with this and in connection with our course towards the eu in general? we really have, we should have, it has been working since the 19th year , the electricity market according to the modern european algorithm. we have to maintain the technical level, the technical condition of our equipment is very high, which corresponds to the european ones, so that we do not deteriorate the reliability of the european energy systems, and our, we, we, we correspond to this, despite, i want to pay attention, despite the fact that we are at war, can you imagine the difficult conditions in which energy workers work? and yet they provide this high european

standard, well, what other obligations, well, we must integrate not only technically, but also financially, the only problem we have today is very large debts on the energy market, they are somewhere around 70 -80 billion, and i believe that the government and the ministry, respectively. structures, they must definitely deal with this problem in the near future, in order for us to solve these debt problems obligations so that we can work according to high standards with european companies, energy companies, especially in the process of importing and exporting electricity there and, accordingly , calculating for this electricity and... we still have one minute left, mr. ivan, tell me, what should and

can be the end of this occupation of the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, we understand that they tried, tried, tried, but somehow they did not manage to integrate this electricity system into their russian system, what will happen to it? look, integrating it is very, well, difficult, it takes a lot of time, a lot of er... funds, an incredible amount of work has to be done, i think it will be impossible in the near future, secondly, the situation there is very difficult and threatening, i would say, because she is not monitored there because the magat mission is doing incredibly important work, but she is not allowed into all the facilities for her to monitor. overall situation, there is a very high big problem with personnel, because russian personnel do not want

to go to work, and this is understandable at the zapool nuclear plant, a lot our personnel have left, and there is a problem with the personnel who will ensure the safety of today's operation, even though it is stopped, but the systems are working with... mr. ivan, thank you for the clarification, ivan plachkov, minister fuel of the energy industry of ukraine from

1999 to 2005 to the 6th year, in a word, a person knows what he is telling you. i hope our next guest is the same. yes, we hope bohdan dolin, an aviation expert and manager of the aviation sector, joins our conversation. congratulations, sir bohdan congratulations. mr. bohdan, let's start right away, hooray, everyone has been driven to the pits. we will fly together, who is not afraid? yes, because i read a lot of messages about the fact that no, no, no, it is better to drive from the same kyiv to poland and eat something there, but somehow people write like that, although they wrote about the restoration of air traffic from the beginning, that everyone is very much waiting for this, sir , who will fly, which company, yes, look, if we talk about the restoration of airspace, we must understand that in the event of the opening

of airspace by ukraine, then ukrainian air carriers will be the first to fly, because it is easiest and fastest for them to resume operational activities, so in order for european air carriers to fly as well, they must make efforts so that the european aviation safety agency lifts the ban on flights to ukraine and allows them to perform such flights , but look, in addition to that... there is even a well-prepared, for example, staff, there is a serviceable plane, as far as i understand, these flights are international, there is something called fear that is very important. who wants to insure flights during hostilities, even if we have there, well, twice as powerful anti-aircraft defenses as there are around kyiv, in general? yes, look, there are different experiences related to insurance in the world, today 95% of market insurance is concentrated in london, this is

how it happened historically after the second world war, and in principle, just after the second world war, in different countries there were . certain models of insurance, in principle you don't need to go far, we see that civilian planes also fly in algeria, fly and in israel and in other countries where there are certain military risks, in principle there are certain proven insurance mechanisms, but on the other hand, we understand that, of course , where the risks are high, the cost of such insurance will be significantly higher, and it is clear that this will be directly included in the cost of air transportation, that is, those flights that cost hundreds of dollars can cost twice as much, sometimes even more expensive, precisely because of the high military risks. in addition, we even remember that several years ago, one of the ukrainian airlines lost a plane in africa, precisely in connection with hostilities, and in principle, these planes, they flew, had appropriate insurances, that is, this mechanism exists in the world, another question is how much such insurance will

cost and is there a flow of passengers who will be willing to fly at that price of tickets , which... will, uh, tell me, please, such a thing, let's move, let's go from civil aviation to military, what, what we've been shouting about for a year, about the f-16s that we have been asking for, and finally hoping for, are about to fly to us, but now here is a fresh trailer about the fact that there will be planes, but they will have to be slightly changed, improved, modernized, how complicated these processes will be, how much time they can still take up finances, and accordingly, how much they can postpone the use of this aviation in the ukrainian sky? yes, look, here the issue is still also complex, because different planes have different flight hours, on the one hand, on the other hand, we understand that they can have a completely different technical condition, that is, as expensive as possible will require much larger amounts of investment time, restoration of their necessary condition and airworthiness, which

will probably require a minimum amount of intervention, at the same time, we still have to understand that... uh, new modern uh today, no one promises, that is, we will still receive those planes that, for one reason or another, countries have decided to either write off or, in principle, withdraw from their operation due to the fact that their maintenance and further operation is or too expensive, or economically not very expedient, or in principle they are already somewhat outdated from their point of view, they want to switch to more modern expensive and efficient equipment, so, unfortunately, we will have to... work with what will be, and it is clear that in order to bring what will be to some kind of normal state from the point of view of the effective use of these aircraft on the battlefield, both time and additional funds will be necessary. but you yourself said how important the service itself is, in this case, how much are these personnel ready to serve

the f16, it will be on our territory or somewhere near the border, but... from the side of nato countries, do our specialists learn as quickly and productively as pilots? yes, look, if we talk about the maintenance of the aircraft, it is absolutely correct to say that there, if a certain group of pilots is needed for one aircraft, it is usually two or three pilots, that is that they can work in shifts, then of course, that staff , which serves this aircraft on the ground can consist of dozens of people per in different directions, that is, these are people who carry out technical inspections, who carry out repairs. who carry out refueling, or , for example, work on diagnostics and e-e maintenance with these or other onboard systems of the aircraft, but at the same time, the training program for these people, in principle, is also difficult and long, but everything after all, training a combat pilot with practical skills is more difficult than, for example, training the same

foreign service personnel, which in principle can take from several weeks to several months, and of course, if we are talking about personnel, the so-called maintenance. maintenance, then much more time will be needed here, it is from several months to six months, sometimes even several years. at the same time, it is still necessary to understand that there are different types of so-called technical maintenance, different categories of it, and probably easy forms of technical maintenance there language category ab will be performed on the territory of ukraine, and more complex forms, for example, forms c or d , in principle can be performed in other countries, because no having a large fleet of aircraft or not having enough experience and time of operation of such... it is simply impractical to build this entire technical maintenance complex there, because it is expensive, it requires special equipment, and therefore, of course, some operational things. will certainly be done on the territory of ukraine, because the planes will be used here and based here, so it will still be necessary to have this personnel who will be located on the territory of ukraine, it is clear that foreign

personnel, at least this is not discussed, and it is unlikely that he will be able to carry out such work at ukrainian military facilities with correspondingly those smartly, mr. bohdan, we have literally one more minute, i have a humanitarian question for you, we are for... wait, we are happy to read the morning reports about the next boeing or another plane that did not make it from vladivostok and made an urgent emergency landing, we know about the degradation of their aviation, but how long will they have the opportunity to land such and such in such emergency situations, how much will they spoil our mood when they finally start to fall, because we know who a good russian is, we want to see... the results of these look, look, it is clear that aviation, sanctions on the ground against russian aviation, when it will start, the plane will crash, and

since it is one of the safest types of air transport in the world, on the other hand, the russian aviation fleet even before the beginning of the war was one of the youngest in principle in asia, that is, we are talking about 10-11 years, it is actually a very young fleet from the point of view of aviation, the average age of which was so we have to understand that after all... margin of safety, it remains quite high, at the same time, it cannot be said that on some particular day or particular moment there will be directly drastic changes, the planes will start to fall one by one, this process is still so slightly stretched in time, we see that with on the one hand, part of the fleet has already been decommissioned, out of 900 ships, there are a little less than 800 left today, of the remaining 800, up to a third are periodically on the ground, half of those on the ground today have become victims ... aviation of cannibalism, the number of aviation incidents , it is increasing, and over the last year it has increased at least one and a half times, at the beginning of the full-scale invasion last year , it has increased twice, that is, we see that

these degradation processes are irreversible, they are happening in russian aviation, from another parties to say that at some point there these planes will start to break down, unfortunately it is not necessary, at the same time, in connection with these two breakdowns, the number of available planes will be constantly reduced and there will be such a shortage of planes that everything... will already feel in at the end of the 25th year, when the planes that will be there will absolutely not be enough to cover all domestic russian needs for air transportation, thank you for such a thorough analysis, explanation of the situation, bohdan dolin, this is an aviation expert and manager of the aviation sector, was with us, aviation, civil and military matters, he explained, we did not have time to talk about one matter, but the wall street journal wrote about it. that the murder of yevhen patrushev, oh, i'm sorry, beauty, he also flew correctly, he flew correctly, that

mykola patrushev organized the murder of this entire air adventure, so i talked a little. this is what the wall street journal is saying today, it is being said, it is said that it warned putin that betting on prigozhin and mercenaries in the war with ukraine gives prigozhin very, very much influence. creates a threat to the kremlin , creates a threat to putin, accordingly, it is not good for prigozhin to continue this whole rebellion, all his actions, well, you will have to read the whole, the whole, the whole article, we don't have time now, but it's just ridiculous, that's why that when the first meeting of the chekists was held in the kremlin, and then the main chekist volodya, well, he was looking at this patrushev, also a chekist, a kegibist, yes, he is there. put it in the portkeys, he stuttered there, you understand, that is, to imagine that patroshev himself would have done such a thing without putin's team, well, the all street journal does not write about it, but actually, and we just know their schedules,

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