as for what we saw in bilt , well, you have to understand, on the one hand, bilt is a kind of tabloid, especially serious, nevertheless, if you remember when many politicians and citizens in ukraine were exposed here, well, at least with a smile met the publication in january of the 22nd year in the bulletin of the attack plan of russia. and to ukraine, it turned out that the map there is exactly 90% consistent with reality, the picture is realistic, here the question is, you know, i would tell the boss, they don’t rely on what it is, i would say, come on i have the document from which you took it, because the details are important, what kind of plan is this, what kind of uh... into the document and then i will tell you what

kind of data it is, well, there is no such thing here, well, that's why i only have there is an assumption that, judging by the picture, this, if it is really taken from some russian sources, then it may be a plan of an offensive operation, as a rule, it is a strategic offensive operation, as a rule, it is the first task and the next task, here they are from... but it must be understood that the operation plan is not a war plan, they are somewhat different, i.e it is necessary to first achieve the result of the first task in order to proceed to the implementation of the next task, but i think that the armed forces of ukraine will get in the way. russia to carry out the plan of this

offensive operation obtained by means of a bill or by means of a bill, as they have already prevented the russians from achieving success in more than one offensive operation in these two years. i am very grateful to you for your comment, pavlo lakiychuk, head of security programs of the center for global studies strategy of the 21st century was on rfe/rl. thank you. if. watch us on youtube, like this broadcast, like this one way you support our work, and we move on to the next topic: the long-time creative associate of volodymyr zelenskyi, the founder and general producer of the laughter league, naum barulya, has a business in crimea, which he has already established according to russian laws, and also has russian citizenship, from which in 10 years of war did not refuse. this was found out by our colleagues, journalists of the scheme program. journalists managed to establish that in april 2009 , the russian... migration service issued naum

baruli a russian passport. the producer was then 49 years old. after the start of the war in donbas and the occupation of crimea, barulya returned to ukraine, from moscow, and entered into a partnership with the 95th quarter studio headed by volodymyr zelensky. together they were involved in the production of series for commercial tv channels. barola traveled to occupied crimea up to and including 2019. at the same time , he used a russian passport to enter the peninsula. baru in the crimea. barulya owns business and real estate. he re-registered all his property on the peninsula under russian law, and despite the full-scale war, his restaurant in sudak still operates and pays taxes to budget of russia. interestingly, until 2019 , baroli's crimean business was co-owned by his daughter iryna borzova. and in 2019, she was elected to the verkhovna rada as a deputy from the servant of the people. her husband, that is naum baruli's son-in-law. in 2020, borzov

was appointed head of the vinnytsia region by volodymyr zelenskyi. journalists also discovered that naum berulya, having russian citizenship and a business in the occupation, applied for state funding in ukraine for his new comedy series in the summer of this year, despite the fact that the participation of russian citizens is prohibited terms of the competition. the application for almost uah 32 million from the budget won, but in the end the contract was not concluded. because naum barulya withdrew his application, it happened against the background of the scandal that broke out at the time, i will remind you, many people in ukraine did not support the idea of ​​state financing of films and tv series while the war is going on here. next, we will show you a short excerpt from the nahum barula investigation, and then we will discuss it all in detail. 3 years ago we sat in three years ago we sat in the office of andriy chevurin, andryusha quarter yakovlev, volodya zelenskyi, shefir brothers. shefiri brothers came up with it. laughter league format.

laughter this is ukrainian producer naum barulya, a longtime creative partner and associate of volodymyr zelenskyi. until the 14th year, boruli was closely associated with the russian kvk. and organized the performances of the urf and crimean teams. i spent very good, if not the best, years of my life in moscow. after the revolution of dignity, barulya returned to kyiv and began to cooperate with the 95th quarter headed by the future president. together they created a humorous the laughter league show and a number of ukrainian sitcoms. having won the elections, zelensky brought his creative entourage to power. the daughter of the producer iryna borzova was elected to the verkhovna rada by the servant of the people. thank you for your trust. her husband, naum baruli's son-in-law, was promoted by zelensky to the head of the vinnytsia region. i will not be a cabinet internet governor, i will be in the field, on the road, in the hospital, school and

stadium. as the schemes revealed, this family has a restaurant business left in the occupied crimea. despite the full-scale war, he continues to work. and pay hundreds of thousands of rubles to the budget of the aggressor country, remain in the legal field of the russian federation, developing his own business in the occupation, the ukrainian tv producer is helped by a valid russian passport, which was found in his possession by the journalists of the scheme. how does a ukrainian producer with a russian passport and an active business in crimea manage to continue creating large-scale television shows in ukraine? this is the laughter league. it was necessary to shoot patriotic series. to collect an alarming suitcase, and not an imposing ira, and even claim tens of millions of budget funds hryvnias to finance my creativity, i have known the president for many years, so

we are starting kvn with the hope of this interesting thing. for a long time, naum barulya was the second person in the club of cheerful and smart people. after the russian presenter oleksandr vaslyakov. he worked in moscow for 15 years, eight of which he was the general director of the russian company amik, which produces kvk. in moscow, i spent very good, if not the best, years. after the start of the war in donbas and the occupation of crimea, berulya returned to ukraine and entered into a partnership with the 95th quarter studio, headed by with volodymyr zelenskyi. i met zelenskyi. he and i decided to make this league a joke. volodymyr zelenskyi was one of the founders and a permanent host of the comedians league of laughter tournament close to his nomination for the presidency. kolomoisky sold a private bank.

you can watch the full investigation on radio liberty's youtube channel. olga ivliva, the author of the investigation, is in touch with us. olya, good evening. good afternoon, why did you even pay attention to naum barula, well, many people in ukraine have a russian passport, by the way, many, maybe is trying to get rid of this passport , but he may not succeed, because it is a very long process, we know that barulya is not an official, not an official, maybe someone from our audience does not understand why this is such a socially important topic, why you took it up, well, for a long time we monitored and continue to monitor people's deputies and their connections. with russia, their business in russia, their illegal border crossing and stay on the crimean peninsula after the 14th year, and that's how we came across the case of irina borzova, we investigated her and her fortune, the property of her family, and so we traced her

father naum barula to iryna borzova, her husband, we did not find a passport, for now she has a russian passport, for now... she is a people's deputy from the servant of the people, and her husband is the head of the vinnytsia region, but my father got a passport in 2009 and already after the 14th year he re-registered his business, why is this important, because naom barulya worked in moscow for a long time, he got in touch with oleksandr oslyakov, and he is currently in the ukrainian humorous space. he is gray cardinal, let's say, he is quite an influential person who influences the media space now, and it turns out that he is interesting to us from two sides, on the one hand, he has an influence on the media space, on formation, he makes projects that are watched by millions of

people in ukraine , and on the other hand, his relatives, after mr. zelenskyi, his business partner until 2019, when mr. zelenskyi won the elections, his relatives... got a certain power, or rose in this power, i.e. became either popular deputies or leaders of the whole of the whole region, that's why this person was interesting to us. then two questions: first, did you speak directly with his relatives, with iryna borzova, a people's deputy from the servant of the people, and her husband serhii borzov, who heads the vinnytsia region? yes, after the call to naum barula himself, we called, we also checked with his relatives, the phone, unfortunately, is not from the phone, the phone calls were not answered, but serhiy borzov replied in a message to us that this does not actually concern him, and... he did not give any facts, did not give specific answers

, iryna borzova also did not give specific answers , she corresponded, but all her messages were reduced to the fact that she loves her father, that she is grateful to him for life and so on, that is, specific answers to specific questions about russian passport, regarding business assets, working business and when registering one's property according to... russian laws, actually recognizing the jurisdiction of russia on the occupied ukrainian peninsula, we did not receive a single, not a single answer, and even after the investigation was released we expected but what did naum barulya himself say then, first of all, did he admit that he had a russian passport and did he admit that he had a business in the occupied crimea that pays taxes to the russian budget. yes , when we gathered all the evidence, we had documents from... official russian registers, unofficial ones, we called naomh barul, i

can't say that he didn't comment, he was in dialogue with us, but also actually he didn't that did not answer, regarding the business, he said that he did not control it and he was not interested in it, that is, he doesn't know that the zander currently has a passport, he categorically did not want to answer the question whether he has or not, he did not deny or confirm, one of his arguments was that he currently has... relatives in crimea, who may have problems, but regarding some specific questions regarding property registration, business re-registration, business management, tax payments, unfortunately, mr. naum barulya did not answer during the filming, and after, we also expected some answer , to some reaction, there is none, to what extent, whether it was successful to find out how close he is now with volodymyr zelenskyi, if earlier they were connected by a fairly well-known person. and big business, there are film projects, television projects, so is there anything connecting them now? well, we can definitely

say that he is an ex-business partner, that is , you can open the register and see that they are business partners, but after 2019, when mr. zelenskyi left and became the president, he left his companies, and already ceased to be, but now his children, let's say 90. regarding the production of serials, that is, his mr. zelenskyi's main company cooperates in the production of certain products, so cooperation is certain, now they continue, both mr. barulya and mr. volodymyr zelenskyi, to be co-owners of trademarks, league u, country, country u, league of laughter and so on, and also now mr. zelenskyi has certain... this is indicated in the last declaration published by the president in 2020, that is

, he indicated drive production, now we will see about this in a fresh declaration, we are waiting for it and will see certain connections or their absence, and that's what, what it turns out that naum barulya, he actually has russian citizenship, has a business in the occupation, and while he's here he's still trying to... some state budget money, in particular you note that he applied for state funding in ukraine for his new comedy series, and am i correct in my understanding that if at that time against the background of a completely different project, it seems the project of yuri gorbunov, when they wanted to shoot the series ingulets, a big scandal arose against the background of this, and society said, well, stop financing series with budget money, the money is needed at the front for the war, that is, if that scandal had not broken out, then if i understand correctly that naum barulya tsi... who could predictably make films with state money, absolutely, we were also very surprised by this, because a person with

a russian passport, an active business in occupied crimea, applied for budget money, the fact that the scandal with ingulets actually influenced him on his decision to leave, to refuse the application, is confirmed by the facts, that is, we have mr. baruli's application to the state enterprise, which is dated the next day after publication. tender and disclosure estimate for the series ingulets, i.e. when the tender for ingulets was published, people saw what a large amount of more than uah 30 million was spent on the filming of ukrainian. series, and this outraged society, and mr. naum barulya refused the next day, we also have this letter of refusal, plus, in some strange way, mr. naum barulya won this competition first of all, because the conditions of the competition were clearly written, and there it was forbidden to participate a russian, a citizen of ukraine with a russian, yes, with a russian

passport, or a legal entity connected to the aggressor country, but despite this for some reason state. the company approved the application of drive production led by naum borula and recognized them as the winner, how they pass any checks, how they communicate, examine some documents, it is still not clear, so there were two points here, first, how he won this competition, and the second he refused precisely after the scandal, and it is not known whether he would have refused if this scandal had not happened, it is obvious that an open question remains, of course we are ready to provide... the opportunity to answer in the president's office, or whether volodymyr zelenskyi knew that his business partner has russian citizenship, business in the occupied crimea, and at the same time claims state financing at the expense of ukrainian taxpayers, this seems to me a very interesting and socially important issue. thank you very, very much, olya ivlieva, a journalist of radio liberty's schema program, and you can find her material on youtube under

the title russian trace in the laughter league. zelenskyi's long-time associate turned out to be a russian citizen with a business in crimea. thank you that's it for us, i urge you to subscribe to radio liberty's website, put it up like this broadcast and see you on monday. there was an accident, nina galamasiuk, your mother. are there other relatives?

and if there are no cigarettes, then what will you smoke, he says, well, if there are no cigarettes, then the village council will smoke, how much time do you need, you need 10 days, 10 days, that's what you should do, i didn't come here for that , to look at the old farts who collect pine cones in the forest, what will be your waka-roman, vacanci, vacanciro. you can pray to god, i ask you to drink, and tomorrow you have flown to your sunny italy, mykola,

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we will talk about new technologies that are being developed to protect our soldiers, the first block will be about how to deal with fpv drones, which are a progressive threat on the battlefield, and now it is in ukraine that new countermeasures are being developed that are not yet available in any armies of the world, by the way, this is confirmed by the conclusions of the military and experts from the usa and europe, what exactly is cool and new is being done in ukraine, we will talk about this as much as possible, and the second part of the program will be devoted to: technologies and a solution to protect our soldiers from enemy bullets and debris, mines and projectiles. how to make sure that our soldiers are equipped with the best armor'. vests, what are the possibilities and limitations here, about all this in a conversation with the heads of our leading domestic enterprises. my name is serhii sguryts, the director of the information and consulting company

defense express, which, together with the espresso channel, is now seeking to highlight the most relevant trends in the life of our armed forces and the defense-industrial complex. and now to yaroslav kalinin is involved in us, he is the director of the infozakhist nvc companies, in my opinion, this is one of the most technological ukrainian companies. of research and production companies, which is currently working in the field of radio-technical intelligence, and has recently been moving in the direction of radio-electronic warfare, including countering unmanned systems of various purposes, mr. yaroslav, i welcome you to the air of the spresso channel, i am glad to see and hear, if you see me, good afternoon, i see, i hear, you just came back from washington a few days ago, there is such a thing going on there the international... the ioc 2023 symposium, as i understand it, is such a top level for companies, government officials, entrepreneurs who want

their armies and their states, well, to have a digital edge, you had a talk there that was dedicated to the development and trends of the use of fpv drones in the ukrainian-russian war, and after your speech you were actually greeted with such... applause, and i would like, of course, first to inquire what made our american and european colleagues so interested, but first in more detail about myself west, why it is so important and why was the presence of ukrainian enterprises and companies important there? well, about the event - it's a very thematic, well, thematic event, which is primarily dedicated to radio-electronics. that is, these are all global companies, primarily western ones, that are engaged in this direction, they present

their new products, tell stories and have the opportunity to communicate with end consumers from the united states and nato countries, so this event is, in fact, such a key annual summary of development. industry, well then we can move on to your speech, because i think that it is not for nothing that europeans and americans welcomed your speech, what trends in the use of fpv drones in the ukrainian-russian war did you talk about, what directions of countermeasures, these are the general things that can be to tell our viewers, well, without unnecessary detail, which can be harmful. well, in fact, i... did not discover any new things for our consumer, for the average average ukrainian, for us fpv is something everyday, already

understood, and what i actually did, i told about the tactics of use in general about this type of weaponry in general, because... currently , western countries, well, in my opinion, from the same communication with specialized companies, users, i saw that they do not perceive it as a type of weaponry at all, as something that should be paid attention to, that is, there is still a classic doctrine, if a drone, then there should be a wingspan of at least 10 m, otherwise it is not considered a drone, and fpv are such small toys, well, they are like something frivolous, i showed the scale , who have now acquired this technology, and showed progression from the point of view of radio

-electronic intelligence and radio-electronic warfare, and especially in the context of the fact that this is actually a security challenge for western countries, because for those present it was such a novelty that, in principle, it is possible to assemble a tool that in... our enemy has every day it becomes more and more skillful from the point of view of protection and immunity to the slave, to collect it from ready-made goods from aliexpress or from somewhere else and after that to apply this tool against the critical infrastructure of the same advanced countries, and they due to the fact that there is a lag technology, in fact, is currently quite vulnerable to this particular one. technologies in the context of terrorist attacks, this caused such a fleeting interest in this topic, because many underestimated the danger.

well, that is, we can actually talk about the fact that they have not yet adapted the experience of the ukrainian-russian war to their reality and believe that this war is taking place somewhere far away and that the technological trends that we have do not affect them, that’s fine for me kind of weird actually, but other than what you were talking about epidrones, as i understand, you have also outlined the directions of countering these types of weapons, taking into account the competences of your company, which concern. intelligence and from recent means, what did you say, what are the current trends of your company's solutions that are the most effective and rational in the fight against these fividrons? well, in order not to reveal our capabilities, i covered it from the side of the rep means that are in the russian federation, and i did not

spread so much about our new products. but showed that, in general , both the russians and we already have a deeper understanding problems of fpv, and in general the suppression of communication channels of drones, which on unknown frequencies, on non-standard solutions, some kind is used, and this, well, on specific examples gave, let's say, food for thought for... others, as representatives of commercial, industrial sector , because they do not have ready-made solutions for such , let's say, security challenges, such a thing as cop not rap is something that exists only in us and in the russians, and western industrial companies to effectively, effectively, i repeat, effectively , they did not demonstrate anything in this direction, eh at this exhibition, at least for that reason... i showed

in general the solutions that the russians have and briefly outlined individual solutions that are created in our startups, including the one that is created in our company, and were there any offers after this event, the wishes of representatives of american or european companies to use your experience, your achievements, in order to start some joint initiatives for creation there. of countermeasures against half-drone already at european or american capacities there were such proposals or infiltrations of such suggestions? well, in fact, last week in washington, too, such a global event was held between the industries of the united states and the industries of ukraine, and the exhibition, as a continuation of this event , made it possible to talk about those

things more objectively. which we started talking about localization, about building capacity and capacities, because we are talking about tens of thousands of means that need to be supplied to our army now, and so that such means can be produced, uh, there is the same problem as with shells , that western productions and industrial capacity is not ready for such volumes of products e. plus the price tag does not correspond to the realities of application, etc., etc., so it was very fruitful a series of meetings, which, i hope, will soon be publicly illuminated, the results of which will soon be publicly illuminated, but so or otherwise, the results of the infozakhist company in the fight against drones are already so indirectly known, first of all there were publications where

it was claimed that the work of your company forced the russians to abandon certain types of drones, because your the countermeasures were effective enough , is it possible to outline in general terms, well , the direction of the countermeasure, the approaches to the countermeasure so that, well, again, not to say too much, you who are already trying to spin me into providing this type of information, look... there are unique developments , which are there, talking with representatives of other large companies, i understand that these developments are only in ukraine, not only in our company, in other ukrainian companies, their effectiveness and in general the approach, how to solve this problem up to this point, maybe there were some theoretical works of scientific and no practical content.