maybe what foods are there, yes, what berries or dried fruits are there that can help prevent diseases, these seasons, increase immunity, let's say so, and still a few words also about medicines. thank you, ms. iryna, well, i'll start with the medicine, that dear friends, our dear viewers, i understand all of us, we are extraordinary, all ukrainians, we each want to help our zahy'. dreamers and defenders, but let's still leave the collection of medicines and the transfer of medicines to doctors and medical workers, who still understand what is better transmit to our guys, because very often everything is transmitted in a row, the guys take everything in a row, and then they come to us, and we already treat the complications that the honorable colleagues talked about, that is, yes, if you transmit the fever ... reducing drugs, buprafen

, paracetamol, or anti-influenza teas , nose drops, some antiseptic throat lozenges, or sore throat pills, there's nothing wrong with that, but if you're going to pass drugs that are immunomodulatory, you shouldn't do that, so that you are not you know, and we don't know what... is being done with this person's chronic diseases, whether it is possible to give him immunomodulating drugs and how they will react to them, so if we give the drugs, then yes , i will cough up the mixture of pills, please throat tablets or sprinkler, please, drops in the nose as well and no more other drugs, antiviral, antibacterial drugs, let's leave it to a specialist. who will

understand whether there is a need for them, whether there is a purpose or not, it is better to really pass on products that contain a large amount of vitamin c or multivitamins, please give me mashed currants, mashed raspberries, viburnum, the kind of things that the guys will use as teas, the same dried fruits. the same, for example, nuts. thank you, ms. oksano. ms. natalya, i want to ask you about this, since we have already spoken, and ms. oksana also spoke, and you said that both covid and flu are circulating in our country at the same time. and is it possible to get sick with the flu and covid at the same time? well, i can't say that these cases are very frequent, but they do exist, since the symptomatology. they are quite

similar, and with any disease , our immunity level immediately drops, so we are prone to other diseases, just as during, say, a viral infection, you can also get a bacterial infection against the background of that decrease immunity, so you need to be very, very clear about the boundaries, understand what is happening to your health, react to the first symptoms and at the very first manifestations immediately. consult a doctor, but if such cases occur at the same time, so that a person is ill with flu and covid at the same time, is it any different at all from the fact that he is ill with only one viral infection or not? the symptoms cannot be said to be much worse or much better, it all depends on the individual person himself, on the state of his immune system, on the state of whether his body has already come into contact with some

strains of influenza or the covid strain, again, from whether she was vaccinated, which, by the way, we haven't talked about yet, but this is very an important factor, that is why it is quite such , let's say, an individual characteristic, well , you have already started, as a matter of fact, to talk about vaccination, i also wanted to ask you, is it not too late, in your opinion, my dear guests, is it not too late to do it vaccination, right now, when we are talking about it already in december, because before we were usually told... that when the virus season started, it should not be done, because there the immunity decreases, or if you have had this shot, at least try for a few days stay at home and avoid contact with other people. you know, vaccination is such a thing that it is never too late to do, it is a necessity that must be done, of course, what we recommend, all doctors recommend to do it in advance, that is, it is... let's say the beginning of

september, october, that is, in order to , so that we have a certain time, at least two weeks, for our antibodies to develop, for us to have a good stable immune system, but if it doesn't work for... some reasons, and the person feels healthy for the moment, has no symptoms, so why not do it vaccination, it is not even a question of why not to do it, but it is necessary to go and do it, whether it is november, whether it is december, or whether it is really the peak of morbidity, but until a person gets sick, vaccination must be done unequivocally, like children, and adults, as well as children, and adults, and pregnant women, i also want to emphasize here, because we are always sure that there are pregnant women somewhere. we refer to some other category, we always say children are adults, but there is also a category of pregnant women, so pregnant women also need to be vaccinated. ms. oxano, are you now for example, there are programs where doctors go to the de-occupied territories and vaccinate there, vaccinate people, and

maybe even now there is a program where vaccination is carried out among the military, do you know about such programs? well, madam... we carry out vaccinations, it is not a program, it is all done by those organizations that provide medical assistance, both to the civilian population and to the military, and that is when volunteer organizations have the opportunity to either purchase vaccines themselves, or for example , these are vaccines given to us by public organizations, then we vaccinate, yes, we are volunteer... well, i, as a member of one of the volunteer medical organizations, we vaccinate whenever possible, both children and adults, including flu vaccines . you also think that now is not too late to get vaccinated and get vaccinated, maybe against the flu. absolutely, given

that we don't have such an upsurge in the incidence of influenza at the moment, it's just the most important thing that the person who... is going to get vaccinated, that he is healthy and that he does not come into contact a person who has acute respiratory symptoms , if contact has occurred, then you need to wait two or three days, that is, get vaccinated, but be healthy, how else can we prevent all these seasonal diseases, is it possible to somehow prepare already, as i understand it, we won't have time to prepare, if it were summer, we could be there for... our bodies, but already, what can we do, mr. volodymyr, in fact, it's a healthy lifestyle, it's proper nutrition, a minimum of any provoking factors , and the most important thing is that people

understood that at the moment, as soon as they see any symptoms, they should be eliminated little by little, that is, a day or two... antipyretic drugs, perhaps nasal drops, lozenges, if it does not go away, immediately contact specialists, but there are such questions , these are people who have chronic diseases, these are chronic sinusitis, chronic otitis, chronic tonsillitis, chronic bronchitis, these are people who should understand that they should limit as much as possible. contacts with those people who got sick, that is, if a person works at work and he knows perfectly well that she is sick, that she has certain periodic diseases, that is, at this moment it is advisable to wear a mask, if a person perfectly understands that she has chronic tonsillitis, which is difficult

to treat, which is constantly getting worse, she should come for an examination and receive preventive treatment at least twice a year. the practice of any chronic diseases is the moment when a person was not sick. in fact, it is difficult to say who among us will get sick now, whether it is a completely healthy person who leads a healthy lifestyle or a person who has chronic diseases, but prevention, health, healthy lifestyle, vaccination, treatment of chronic diseases, at least. their moment to prevent them from developing, if necessary, then these chronic diseases, for example, polyposis of the nose, or there are problems with chronic middle motility, or problems with the larynx, if they are necessary, then they must be operated on, so that the person can recover for that, that is, the more we will

realize that we can eliminate some of our problems, the less we will try to get sick, the most important thing is how we... in my opinion, for prevention, this is one more point, which can be singled out at the moment, this is all and ... such a moment that we are under great stress. unfortunately, people are stressed these days, and as my colleague said before, this is the biggest factor in the fact that a person starts to get sick. and i still have such an applied question for you, as for a narcologist, do you remember that at the beginning, when the coronavirus infection first started, everyone started buying, i won't name which one. for the nose, nasal ointments and saline solutions, they were literally disassembled in pharmacies,

there was nothing, does it help how prevention at all or not, and this is just a myth, i understood, the question of any saline solution, this is a valid question, why, because washing the nasal mucosa, that we partially wash away the virus, and especially the winter period ... if around of all diseases , if we use the correct soy solution, that is, the factory solution, and it will be very good to wash the nasal mucosa from time to time, that is , to eliminate the pathogen of bacteria or viruses, this is the first point, and the second point is the moisturizing of the mucous membrane, you should remember that we are now in rooms with centralized or individual heating, respectively , we have air, and this hydration, especially for children, is very important. as for the ointment

, it is not recommended to use the ointment if it is fat-based, because it disrupts the mucocellular clearance for when the epithelium is cleaned, when the mucus is expelled from the nose, it is disrupted, and therefore any ointments are preferable in that situation. it is only to use water- based sprays. mrs. natalya, perhaps you have something to add? it was very rightly said about the account just salt solutions, i wanted to emphasize this too, and also as a therapist i would like to add such a seemingly banal thing that i actually try to convey to my patients every day, this is the consumption of a sufficient amount of fluid, it is necessary every day regardless. from the state of health, health, ill health, but such a banal method as using a sufficient amount of redin,

still gives us a fairly stable immunity, i emphasize that the daily norm for a healthy person is 30 ml per kilogram of body weight, this is in good physical condition well-being and health, respectively, during the disease and the norm should increase, and sometimes i even joke with my patients, saying that now it will probably be for... the most difficult method of treatment is named, it is to consume a sufficient amount of liquid, because we do not consider , the doctor told us to drink a pill, we drank it, because it is prescribed for us once, twice or three times a day, and we forget the liquid all the time, so i really want to emphasize that drinking enough liquid is already the first step to recovery, or so that we prevented some inspiratory disease, so maintenance of hydration is mandatory, and as we always say, simple rules. they save lives, and water is our best ally,

both in diseases and even in order not to get sick, so today we have given you all the tips that we can, but they are really simple in order to not get sick, feel your business, rest, your rest must be 6 to 8 hours, a must, try not to stress, even now during the war, take... the right amount of vitamins, let's say so, it is enough for your body , for an adult and also for a child, and of course, do not take, do not abuse the medicine yourself, and as soon as you feel the first signs of the disease, it is still better to consult a doctor in order to establish the correct diagnosis, and i want to thank our guests who were in touch with us today, this is the infectious disease doctor oksana vygovska, ms. oksano, thank you for the... advice, thank you, ms. iryna, thank you, dear viewers, i want to

thank the guests in our studio, natalya peh, therapist, doctor of functional diagnostics, thank you very much, thank you , thank you, audience, thank you, and thank you, mr. volodymyr, volodymyr gurak, doctor otolargo, thank you, it was a program about health, and i, iryna koval, take care yourself, because simple rules save lives. first on the throat or.

good afternoon, an informational marathon is underway on the espresso tv channel. vasyl zima, oksana vysochenska, we will work for you for the next few hours, and in the meantime, we will join in our conversation, ask questions of our guests, learn about all the most important things is happening in our country. we encourage you to support the collection, which we are conducting jointly with the charity fund man and the right to collect for battery stations, these are the ones you see on the screen, they are solar... and are intended for the dnipropetrovsk separate brigade of tro of the armed forces of ukraine. you can save the qr code and card number somewhere, take a picture , so that every time you have the opportunity, ideally even every day, to join the collection, we remember that our safety, our comfort, our ability to work,

preparing for the holidays, after all, going to bed peacefully at night, it's all thanks to the boyfriend. on the front lines, and the least we can do for them is to thank them with such donations. well, actually, we will start the conversation, and we will have literally 10-15 minutes before the news, but we will have time to talk with our guest ivan yakubets, a military expert, ex-commander of the airborne assault troops of ukraine. if mr. ivan is in touch with us, then good, good day to you, mr. ivan, not yet, not yet in touch. mr. ivan will be with us in a moment will join, in the meantime i will inform you that in kherson oblast on... unfortunately, there are consequences of russian attacks, six civilians were injured, also in kirovohrad oblast it is already known that air defense forces were working, rockets were shot down over kropyvnytskyi and oleksandriyskyi districts, he reported this manager ova rajkovich, but unfortunately, the debris damaged the roofs of houses, fences and cars, fortunately there is no information about the victims at the moment. well, let's add ivan

yakupets, a military expert, ex-commander of the mobile assault troops of ukraine. mr. ivan, i congratulate you. congratulations you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, well , let's start, probably with a conversation, well, in general , let's discuss the situation on the front line in the most hot areas, although, probably , there are no areas that are not hot at all, but regarding the situation near kherson, i would like to ask your opinion expert, first of all, the opinion of an experienced person, regarding this attack, which led to the destruction of three enemy su-34 aircraft, because you already know, such a... conspiracy begins, since people do not understand everything, no, well, not everything, as they say, in they are on the agenda, regarding information , they begin to say, and it must have been an f-16 that flew in and shot down these planes, well, because petri can’t somehow put three targets at once with one battery, and various thoughts on this topic begin, let’s try a little to clarify the situation so that

there are no unnecessary conspiratorial thoughts, i think it is a patriot after all, the patriot attitude has come out, sat down. camouflaged firing positions, came as close as possible to the contact line to the dnipro, and thus during bombardments by su-34 guided bombs, they destroyed, this is exactly such an option, it is the most profitable. as for the f-16, we don't have them yet, but there was a message that the first batch, a small one, was being prepared. well, i read today about what is already coming. will enter ukraine, again, i think that this information will definitely not spread, because we know how the enemy is trying to strike, and there were attacks on ivano-frankivsk region, where the pilots were training, attacks are constantly going on staro kostyantyniv, where there is an airfield , it's not a secret, it's, well, that is we understand that it is obvious that if they will work in the ukrainian skies, it will definitely not be disseminated to and told where they

are located and where they are coming from, we will learn from the russian public about... the results of their work, yes, because we we will be silent, and they will shout that this is definitely something new, that for the f-16, as it was in the end and previous times, for example, with missiles, and american ones, but let's face it, the air defense forces conducted a successful operation, the introduction of active air defense actions, this is the means that they used now and it is very effective. but it certainly puts at risk those anti-aircraft defense forces that are deployed so close to the enemy's front line, very careful camouflage, a whole operation of insertion is required here. enemies and even their own on their own territory in oman in order to take such a missile complex as close as possible to the contact line and

strike the line from which guided bombs or missiles are usually launched by these planes, so that it is very good and, but a risky operation, and you need to understand that uh, how to say, let's say this, they received the punishment very well, three planes at once is a serious thing, mr. ivan, as we have already mentioned, that in fact the offensive of the russians, somehow simultaneously now intensified, their attacks, assault actions along the entire front line, in fact, we cannot single out any such, any one hot spot, because both avdiyivka, and maryenka, and about ugledar, more and more often bakhmud, kupyansk speak of themselves, we are that we understand whether simultaneously starting so many active actions at many points the front lines, are they willing to continue these actions for a long time,

that is, i am asking whether it can end, whether they have enough reserves to be so active for, for example, several months and lay, lay lay their, yes , as it was near avdiivka since october, well if... in order to get a clear message on this matter, we need to take and listen to budanov, he has recently stopped doing anything after problems with his wife , it means giving initiative data from our intelligence, previously they were more or less periodic, he must know what reserves they have, so how much they will have and so on, this is his job, the head of intelligence, well, figuratively speaking, the head of intelligence. of the armed forces of ukraine , as for whether there is enough or not enough , it is difficult for us to say with you, it would be difficult, but taking into account the fact that they are really attacking in

five or six directions at the same time, it shows that they have enough, as they count for this period of certain reserves in order to conduct assault actions, it means that it is not deep who nature, tactical nature, in these directions. why do they do that? they do so because they, they understand that if you conduct such actions in one or two such directions, then we will transfer our unit units from the parts of the front that have not been attacked by them and strengthen, in order to prevent this from happening, they advance on the entire front line, in as many directions as possible, besides, i think, they read our telegram channels very carefully, watch our news, they watch them better. than you and i study them and, and there are already a lot of calculations about the fact that demobilization should be done , rotation should be done, replenishment should be done,

nobody wants us, 600 people flee across the border a day on the basis of fake certificates, as a rule, and the like, that's why they understand that our prez has had problems with the formation of reserves, that's how... in this way, they confidently put pressure on many directions , the main factor is to prevent us from maneuvering our connected units from non- attacked directions, and for that for each the question of achieving this in those directions where they promised their fuhrer that they would be captured, that is, avdiivka, first of all, avdiivka, now there is marinka, under threat, not under threat. but well, practically marinka is already under them, eh, the avdiivka is definitely a very difficult situation, you have to understand it,

and eh, no matter how much we would like it, but the option of leaving the avdiivka, it is quite so serious, and you have to prepare for it, he should be, as they say, option b. if it still fails to get the throat of our appendix. who entered their territory, then so we will need to leave viten and not leave the troops surrounded there. moreover, we know which heroic brigades stay and fight all this time, the ukrainian army probably already has a similar experience, let's remember when the second minsk was signed, ukrainian troops were just leaving debaltsevo at night, how did they manage to do it? well, in principle, it was successful, i wasn't there, that's why, but from what was told from what we immediately interrupted, nothing was successful there. it was during debaltsev's time, thousands of units were thrown there military equipment, thousands, you understand, there was no success, you will have to

answer for debaltsevich. here, but in any case, now i understand from avdiivka, this is the logistics corridor that remains, yesterday we talked about it with serhii zagorets, somewhere about 8 km, well, i don’t, the enemy can probably shoot through, but in any in this case , it is up to me, and by the way, who is it up to the political leadership of the state or the military leadership in this situation? in my opinion, this is a purely military matter, not a view of my conviction, and there are no politicians here have rights to get involved in this issue, because they already intervened when the battles for severodonetsk and lisichansk were going on, do you remember when bezugla intervened in severodonetsk and delayed the withdrawal of our troops for several days, several hundred of our soldiers and officers died from this lady , who tried to restrain the enemy there with her emotions, and to our leadership, who was in command there , well, let's say this, proved to the brains

so that they did not surrender severdonetsk, did not leave it, that is why this is such a serious matter, and our politicians don't care it is necessary, yes, certain political ones, so, let's say so, we will have losses, you will not do anything, but it will not cost lives and problems with life, the health of our soldiers who can be involved in the environment, well understand yes. this is a purely military matter, this is a tactical zone, a tactical zone of the defense of the armed forces of ukraine, well, you can say operationally-tactically, it is already the maximum in general, and ukraine and the armed forces of ukraine will not suffer from its loss, except for some image issues, so it is necessary to be smart, you have to be pragmatic, realistic and nothing else

don’t create anything around this... about the fact that everything is gone, everything is gone, we left it in the lake, nothing terrible will happen, just like what happened with the abandonment of bakhmut, mr. ivan, we have literally two minutes left, and i also want to talk about kyiv to ask, we are already used to it, and we are satisfied with it, of course, that there are quite a lot of different air defense systems in ukraine, more and more often, many are shot down, but the shaheds continue to fly to kyiv, and not to the suburbs, but to different districts of kyiv . why does this happen, why is the capital still not secured, we understand that despite what is there the front line, all the same, their huge goal remains kyiv? this happens because it is a war, and a war is a system of actions and incidents of a different nature, which are not in most cases systematic or regular,

because the weather, the human factor, and capabilities, the presence of weapons, missiles intervene here... , and other factors affect this issue, so you should not think that all of kyiv was closed like, let's say, like a wallet, and no one will penetrate here, nothing like that, there will still be cases when there will be an enemy to penetrate, why, because the more massively he strikes, that is, the more missiles attack kyiv at the same time, the more... the more likely it is that one of them will break through into the territory of the city of kyiv, and here one must understand that this is war, and that - firstly, secondly, shahedami used to take part in, repulse strikes, including anti-aircraft missile complexes, and this is too expensive for us, mainly now they are trying to shoot down shahedim with small arms or cheetahs of such installations, and our

anti-flood defense is quite effective working on this. we have to say goodbye briefly, because iryna koval has a selection of the most important and freshest information at the moment, so let's listen and watch together. thank you oksana, i will tell you about the most important events in a moment, just wait.