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the idea of ​​a multipolar world , which has been promoted in both moscow and beijing for many years, since the days of boris yeltsin and his chinese counterparts, is now being replaced by the idea of ​​a bipolar world, a world in which the united states of america and the people's republic of china are the main forces, and precisely about a bipolar world was discussed by both chinese politicians and chinese experts when the president of the people's republic of china xizen ping visited. in san francisco and held his summit with the president of the united states of america, joseph biden. only difference is that in this bipolar world, beijing naturally wants to represent the interests of moscow. and interested in russia, with its relations with the west and its war in ukraine and its other efforts , undermining the capabilities of the united states. because a weakened united states is much more likely to agree to chinese terms than. this
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was until now, so in this regard , the allied relations between russia and china cannot be overestimated either. bilt's own edition, which we will certainly remember today, literally in the last one of its last publications notes that russia may try to attack europe in the winter of 24-25, taking advantage of this transition period in the united states, when there will be a moment without a leader, and ... when the united states will not immediately be able to come to the aid of european allies, expeditiously, at least to do it, biltt cites his own intelligence sources, will china stand by the russian federation if putin wants to implement this plan? it won't happen, because it is absolutely obvious that china will not get involved in such adventures, but the real danger of an attack by the russian federation. i don't see it for europe either, this
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is a beautiful forecast, but it will mean an absolutely incredible thing, that the russian political leadership, in conditions where it has not succeeded in restoring its military resources, in conditions where it has lost a huge part of its professional army and military equipment , even before this power is restored, will go to war with the armies. members of nato, whose military potential cannot even be compared with the military potential of the russian federation. what can be a strong russia? she of course has nuclear weapons on a completely different scale than the countries of the european union. however , i will remind you again that there have been no tests of this nuclear weapon for almost three years.
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ten years in order to prepare for the use of nuclear weapons, it is necessary to at least start testing them. to imagine that the head of a nuclear state without testing nuclear weapons will make a decision on its use, well, if we are talking about strategic nuclear weapons, it is difficult to imagine at all, it means not to understand technology of its application. so far, russia is not even... trying to start such tests, the only important point is that putin gave the order to prepare a suitable test site for this, because, as we know, in the soviet union nuclear weapons were tested at test sites that were outside the current administrative boundaries borders and state borders of the russian federation itself. so, this means that if russia...
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launches any strikes on european countries, it will do so with the help of a conventional one weapons, without even creating the danger of exchanging nuclear strikes with european countries, and here is a good question, is the intervention of the american army necessary in this case? we are talking about a war of technologies, of course russia has capabilities. to fight, but it must be remembered that the ukrainian army is literally snatching the latest technologies from the west, and there is still a lot, a lot of things from western arsenals, what has long been in service with the western armed forces, we are given old samples of weapons, even when it comes to it's about the f-16, old man, this one planes for many years. and western armed
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forces, nato forces receive new models, when slovakia or poland gave us old planes, they received new western planes. all this is brand new, there is an interesting thing going on here, that these old western weapons, samples, they are still more effective than the weapons with which the russian federation is currently fighting, so a good question arises: who in europe, then, is the russian army going to fight? today's war, as we see, is a war of technologies, not a war of slogans, the ukrainian armed forces, it to tell the truth, they had in their arsenal until... fairly old soviet weapons, which began to change only after 2013 to effective, but also to a certain extent, antique samples of western weapons. the russian army also
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works and fights with antique weapons in 90 cases. of course, there is a certain part of the latest weapons, let's not ignore it, there is. however, you know that even some of the latest rockets. over the course of six months or a year, russia produces a few pieces, a few units, and therefore happily bombards us with cheap drones. it is effective weapon, but it is difficult to call it, i would say, a huge advance in military technology. well, that's why i have a very bad idea. an attack on europe, besides, the very idea that the united states will not have a leader, which means it will not have a leader? the united states, even if a new president of the united states is elected, in december 90, 2024, there will be a supreme leader, there will be a secretary of defense, there will be a chief of the joint
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committee, the chiefs of staff of the armed forces, and i assure you that no new president of the united states, even if donald trump will be there when he prepares. before making a decision about his presidency , he will not say: you know, let's not respond to russia in any way, but i think that we should all surrender to russia, where have you seen such an american president, yes donald trump , i will remind you, was the first who fired at positions in syria, which for his predecessors were considered inviolable from the point of view of the impossibility of a conflict with the russian federation. what the hell, he's not even president of the united states, he's going to try to somehow harm the american military to perform its duty, it will not be like that, by the way, with regard to donald trump, actually
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trump before the elections and trump in the event of a hypothetical victory in the elections, these will be two fundamentally different positions, can we hope that.. the states will be able, once again, in reality, to make donald trump a president who will stand up for the national interests of the states, in which we would very much like to believe, we are still included, and we, as a sovereign state, you know, i remember i already have three donalds four donald trumps, the first donald trump, i remember during the election campaign, when he was competing against hillary clinton. the second donald trump, i remember in the first 2.5-3 years of his presidency, when he coordinated his decisions with a rather careful professional team of his staff, this is
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the second donald trump, i would say the second and a half, because he had to get rid of certain people on his team for the first time weeks after he became president of the united states. then there was the third donald trump, who, after all, created a completely different environment, and he had a completely different vision of how he could conduct himself in politics, both externally and internally, and that led to the storming of the capitol, and now we see the fourth donald trump, the donald trump of the campaign and the lawsuits. if this donald trump gets the republican nomination and wins the presidential election. we will see a fifth donald trump, and this donald trump will one way or another depend on the people he surrounds himself with, at least in the first period of his presidency, because we must understand that trump himself, as an impulsive and not systematic person, very much
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depends on those who ensure the functioning of the state machine in making decisions, and this is also an important point. many say, this donald trump the fifth will resemble the third, because he will not reckon with the republican establishment, because he will surround himself with the most radical people. people from the republican party, but these people, if it even comes to that, also, when they come to the offices in the white house, they will be connected in one way or another with the responsibility that anyone who appears in such offices always has, and they will know the fate of donald trump's associates who recklessly followed all his whims and are now spending months in .. trials and get convictions, they will still know that the presidency of donald
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trump will end, even if you imagine the most improbable scenario, simply because we are talking about a person who is quite old, when donald trump becomes, we are talking a lot about joseph biden's age, yes, but when donald trump becomes president of the united states, he will be 78 or 79 years old, how old will he be, he is now s... yes, as i recall, you have to check, let's check, so as not to misinform our viewers because i always have trouble with numbers and this is a huge one, he, he's 77 years old right now, right, so he'll be 78 next year when he's running for office and he'll be 78. years old when he becomes president of the united states, he
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will be 79 in a few months, that is, in fact, this is a 79-year-old president of the united states, that is, when he ends his term, he will be 83 years old, not as much as joseph biden is now, you know, a few years older, and the question is whether such a person will be even with all. her weight and capabilities, even if it is possible to subdue the entire state machine, to bog down for a second term for 83 years, i have serious doubts, most likely, even if donald trump wins the presidential election next year, it will be physiologically his last term, unless he dies in office, people occasionally die at 81 or 82 or 83, and that's not a ... right outcome, especially when we're talking about someone who 's under constant stress at that age, yeah
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i may wish donald trump, like joseph biden, a long and healthy life, but people after 80 tend to die more often than they do in their 50s or 40s or 60s. so every donald trump staffer will know that in four years he will have to deal with. with america, let's say so, with american justice, and have the experience of predecessors. this is not russia, where the people surrounding vladimir putin can confidently believe that they still have 15 years ahead of them, relatively speaking, and if they keep the power of the federal security service of russia after putin's death, then in general infinity, no, this is electoral democracy, so here too you have to think about what is real. donald trump can, even with the help of the most radical representatives of the republican party. ugh. well,
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let's get back to work a little, in particular journalists this week, the bilt published some statements by our head of the ministry of defense, defense minister ustem rustem umerov, and attributed to him things that he did not actually say. in my opinion, absolutely. a normal statement from the mouth of the minister of defense, who is also of crimean tatar origin , that crimea and its liberation is a strategic goal for us, and ukraine is moving towards it in one way or another, for some reason crowned with an absolutely specific date and period of 2024 . it was so scandalous that the spokesman of the ministry of defense ilarian pavlyuk had to deny the information that it was about some specific dates, in your opinion, mr. vitaly, why are they again
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trying, i don't know, consciously or unconsciously, to fit us to some deadlines, even if we ourselves already refuse to set them for ourselves? i have another question, why give an interview to tabloids, i am still a supporter of information hygiene, there are solid publications, ugh, which of course would very much like clickable headlines, but which are forced to come. content of what the interlocutor tells them, and there is tabloids, and everyone knows it well in the west, if you have a desire to create some sensational mother. something so incredible, if you are a member of the royal family, prince haiby, you can talk to the sunday times or bild, but if you are the president of ukraine or the minister of defense of ukraine, you have other information tasks, this is a question for the people from the press service of the president of ukraine or from the press services of the ministry of defense of ukraine, why do they think that an interview for a tabloid may
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not lead to a scandal. tableaus are a thing that exists because of clickability. the headline, the minister of defense of ukraine hopes for the liberation of crimea, is of no interest to anyone. headline defense minister of ukraine promises to liberate crimea in 2024, interesting for everyone. headline: the minister of defense of ukraine believes that it is necessary to mobilize all citizens of ukraine of draft age, well, not mobilization, let's put it this way - to ask the question about the possibility of updating the databases there, well, it doesn't matter, you won't write it in the publication either, it's of no interest to anyone in the west, the headline, the minister of defense of ukraine will call people from abroad, and i just think what sanctions will be applied against them if they do not come, of course a huge number of people in germany will read it, because it is about their neighbors, it is true, ugh, but it is
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a western tabloid, what is the difference between a western one? bloit from ukrainian, ukrainian will never in his life, if he will invent such a thing, set up a video conversation, and you will then beg them for video conversations through all possible tools, write to them, ask them to prove it, to show you the audio, to show them you videos, and our ukrainian ones tabloids, as a rule, do not do this, but they solidly tell you that they have... a source that you said this, that they have a record in the editorial office, a western tabloid cannot afford such a thing , such ukrainian luxury, and therefore bilt , on the one hand, printed all this, and on the other hand, provided a video interview with the minister of defense of ukraine, there is the audio track itself, there is
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a german translation, it can be cleaned from the german translation. if you apply certain technologies there, and listen to this english-language conversation and see what the journalist says bilt asked the minister of defense of ukraine three times about ukrainian men who are in germany, and the minister of defense of ukraine told him three times that there should be the same approach to all citizens of ukraine of conscription age, true, ugh. there is another question, and what is happening to us ourselves, khrystyna, why do the ukrainian media simply reprint the minister's interview from the headlines when there is a video recording, when i saw all this, the first thing i did, because i also wanted to comment on it, this 25 sat down
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i listened for a few minutes, i can't say that i'm a great ... expert in german, it wasn't so easy to hear english there, i didn't have access to tools, where, where, deharmonizing this interview, i asked a colleague to she listened to that conversation, and to make sure if i was right or wrong, that's all, after that i made sure that... what was printed in bil and what the defense minister said are different streams of information , and that's why i don't think that we are being influenced by anyone, the tabloid is not influencing anyone at all, the tabloid we need profits, we need advertising, that's normal, in general we can't understand that this is a business, and there is a concept of reputation in dievelt or diezite or
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frankfurtemay. understanding build's reputation is different, no one is going to bring a claim to build with a title like that because they 'll say that's how they interpreted the words, but at the end of the day they gave you the material, so yeah, they're nothing, nothing has been hidden from you, you can interpret differently, you have freedom of interpretation, because you have the completeness of information, if you do not have 25 minutes, then trust us. if you have 25 minutes, trust yourself, we did everything depending on us, but of course fractorg or develt, they will never in their life afford this, so next time... let our honorable minister of defense give an interview to some other german publication, and let the president of ukraine next time talk not to the sunday
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times, but to some serious british publication, which will not also distort some important theses, ugh, which he taught, the same happened recently, in great britain many serious publications with a reputation, and so in every western country. but if you want something like that, i would say bright, with a parenthesis from a previous life, then of course you need to talk to bilda, everything will be as you like, well, mr. vitaly, about the results of the president's communication with journalists, in particular, not only foreign ones, but also in ukrainian, a large press conference was held. for many, she was remembered for certain theses about the vision of the president regarding mobilization and some familiarities, and what
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accents would you put? i believe that the president has been quite carefully prepared to speak to a western audience, because right now maybe the number one issue for the president is getting help from the west, we've already talked to you about these problems that have arisen in... in connection with the allocation of money to the united states congress states, we already understand that by the end of this year there will be no allocation of money, and with the problems that have arisen in connection with the allocation of money by the european union, we already understand that the european union will have to deal with this issue to return at an extraordinary summit in early february, and therefore conversations with western journalists, an appeal to western public opinion was quite seriously worked out by the president's office and... perhaps by the president himself, from this point of view the importance of communication with ukrainian society, as it has been happening since february
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2022, took a back seat. i want to remind you that since february 2022 , the president of ukraine has been giving exclusive interviews exclusively to foreign journalists, essentially. the only person he talked to of ukrainian journalists for the entire time of this war, was known. rules broger , who really has serious achievements in this genre, but who has never engaged in political journalism and analytical journalism, necessary to talk to the president of a country that is going through the most difficult period of its recent history, but this is the choice of the president himself and the choice of his office, if on the issue of communication western society was chosen, and not ukrainian society, this indicates that in the office of the president himself... believes that ukraine is not so much a subject as an object of politics, and that it is through communication with the west that success in the war with russia can be achieved, but i believe that
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the pro-ukrainian society, especially when it comes to the society of in which one way or another the mobilization of military personnel takes place, which one way or another has to live in anticipation of the continuation of the war, and the president himself cannot say in which year or in which decade this war. will finish, you also need to have serious communication, and you also need to be aware of what the issues are important from the point of view of maintaining public trust, and which issues reduce trust in the authorities and thus the effectiveness of the solidarity of the authorities and society in the conditions of this war to the next difficult stage, which we are moving to, the president did not answer clearly about the government of national unity, although it is absolutely obvious, that the creation in... of national unity is a request of ukrainian society and, by the way, a request of our western friends, who all the time say: if you cannot hold elections, the only guarantee
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of your legitimacy is the government of the national unity, this is the alphabet of politics, the one who does not want to learn the alphabet of his own politics, sooner or later begins to learn the alphabet of someone else's politics, the president should be aware of the great credit of trust in ukrainian society today that the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine has and... i am not discussing the issue effectiveness or ineffectiveness of a specific person, because i am not a military expert, i believe that the question of effectiveness or ineffectiveness is precisely the question of the ukrainian president, who appoints the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine. as volodymyr zelensky himself said about this. olek, if the president realizes that the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine currently has much more credit of trust in society than he does, he benefits from this credit of trust of the commander-in-chief . for the good of the state, and not to perceive this credit of trust as some kind of political, it is an electoral threat in conditions when the elections
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of the president of ukraine may take place after... long and difficult years, i am not talking about the fact that in order to hold such elections , it is necessary to have the subject itself, the state, which must endure in struggle with the russian federation, which has set itself the goal of liquidating this state as a political organism, this is also a serious mistake in this communication with our compatriots, which took place during this press conference, and that's all, and this is my second conclusion, and my third conclusion , something is happening to ukrainian journalism itself. ugh, colleagues, not all, but many, it seems to me, have contracted the disease of egocentrism from the authorities, i heard not so much a question as an answer, i believe that only clear, concrete and tough, tough the question can give an opportunity to get the same answer if you are engaged in a presentation during a press conference
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of a politician, any. professional , not professional, experienced, inexperienced, with a big mega, with a smaller mega, you get in return exactly such a set of self-presentation of this politician, and politicians are always grateful to journalists for the opportunity to conduct this session of self-presentation, so i think that everyone needs to press prepare carefully for the conference, prepare for the president of ukraine, prepare for his staff, prepare ukrainian... journalists and that the press conference cannot be focused solely on the needs that exist in communication with the west. the press conference of the president of ukraine should be connected with communication with ukrainian society. and this is also an important moment and an important lesson, but we are learning from this war, and since none of us knows when this war will end, we
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will, unfortunately, be learning for a long time. their mistakes. so. and you noted in one of the comments on this topic that there is no professional journalism without society, which does not respect professionals. we are also beginning to learn what actually says and respect for professionals. yes, because by and large , respect for professionals is the trust that our society places on our military today. it trusts our military. precisely because it hopes that professional skills in war will allow us to withstand the fight against the russian federation, that our military will be better professionals than the russian generals and officers whom vladimir putin has assigned the task of destroying the ukrainian state and buying, and thanks to the professionalism of the ukrainian military, we managed to survive in the most difficult periods of this war, which means
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professionalism. you can start to respect when your own survival depends on it, the survival of your family and the survival of your country, and not all of that haha. thank you, mr. vitaly, that we had the opportunity to hold this saturday political club, albeit in this format, and i would like to remind you that it is worth joining such conversations and programs, every saturday we will continue to work for you, vitaly portnikov and khrystyna. as well as distinguished guests, which will talk about the most important topics of the current week. thank you for joining us in discussing these important topics. then our colleagues continue the broadcast of spress.
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the results of the year from president zelensky, the us congress is on vacation, when to wait for help, ukraine and poland agreed on unblocking the border. about this and much more in today's issue. greetings, iryna koval is in the studio, and this is the news, the results of the week on the espresso tv channel. the counterattack in the south did not achieve its goals, however, in the past year there were victories, about which another two hours in a row, the president told journalists at the final press conference. how our soldiers continue to hold the defense, despite the fact that most of them have been fighting for 22 long months. the security service is actively engaged in the postponement of the war, which is closer to the kremlin.

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