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to everyone who woke up and joined eterespresso. we've been gathering information for you all morning with the front line from noon to midnight. well, today is the day that will end with a poinsettia. yes, and to celebrate, yes, to celebrate in crimea, by the way, they started from the very beginning. according to their local time, it is an hour earlier than the real ukrainian time, something rattled, the windows in the houses were delayed, sevastopol, they do not specify , sevastopol, yes, they say that there was a noise like a rocket, we will see, cheering andruhovych, we should not be disturbed by alarm clocks in the morning , and... and crimean cotton can, there
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there is nothing in the text about this. now i suggest watching one video that moved me and roman this morning already today, it didn’t happen today, it’s footage from the odesa school shelter, apparently somewhere in the middle of the week, during another air raid , the children were lowered into the shelter, and the children, like children they didn't make a fuss, in fact, they didn't crowd, although that was the case, but they started to... sing a christmas repertoire not in ukrainian, but still, let's watch it together, and then we'll move on to our guest. so, odessa children sang last christmas, well, we hope that in the next 56... years there
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, they will learn some kind of carol to sing next year, but no longer in shelters, so that there is no need to hide. our studio already has taras antushevskyi, a religious scholar. director of the religious and information service of ukraine , we welcome you, mr. taras, to our studio , glory to ukraine, glory to you, mr. taras, actually about a certain unification carried out by the leader of russian fascism, putin, and the entire russian people, the whole, because he is all his supports, but they actually did a few things that we couldn't have hoped for, and you as a historian can confirm this, for example, we have never seen that. the political class could reorient all ukrainians so that they all wanted to join nato together. we did not believe in these numbers, only thanks to putin's war, suddenly everyone wanted to join nato, suddenly everyone wanted the european union. that is, he appeared to speak ukrainian. so a
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certain common denominator appeared, but only under external pressure, i mean , it is not known how it will be when the war ends, but whether it is religious. plan, actually a divided nation, part of which has an imperially infected brain completely with orthodoxy, plus the orthodox church of ukraine and the greek catholics, these are the three largest communities, adding here protestants and muslims, will we reach some common religious and spiritual denominator, i tell you i will say that regarding the first one, i would like to clarify, even, so to speak, against the will of the ukrainian political authorities. today will surely be such a special day, because today the joint christmas address of the representatives of the ukrainian leaders is to be released christian churches, that is, before that they
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each wrote separately, they could do something small there, but not in such a way that all of them together, and this time actually all the largest christian churches in ukraine, which are there, will issue a joint appeal and the moscow ordenina. i think not, i think not, uh, let's say this, even now, the other day there was information that the meeting of christian churches of ukraine was being revived, this meeting arose from the time of kuchma, and it was, as it were, let's say yes, with an effort to oppose medvedchuk's state policy in his own in the religious sphere, and now if i understand that there is no such need, but i understand that they have a need simply among themselves, for christian churches to meet and discuss some common interests, and on that ... occasion , they will, in particular, begin with that will issue a joint appeal before christmas. i think that this is also such a unity, but on the other hand, we must understand that the russian peace in ukraine is not only the moscow patriarchate. russian peace in ukraine is actually there, it is present in all the churches that in one way or another came out of
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seminary of the moscow patriarchate. it is also present in the ocu, it is present in the greek catholics, who can sometimes be thought of in such categories that correspond to the state-church policy of russia there. that is, when there is, and specify what you mean, i mean when there is a priority church, when there is a state policy, which, let's say, somewhere makes a reference point for one, and all the others, you know, like this division, like , everything is for one's own, and the law is for others, yes, that's when people's thinking is at the level of that of the russian world, by the way, a year ago, even during this year, we had such a thing, when there was talk of a calendar reform, that is , how many, how many myths arise. precisely around the calendar reform, also historical questions, how many myths are still spreading in the orthodox environment, which are of russian origin, and they, in fact , were created at the time so that we would move away from understanding our true history, so that we perceive it as it can , and even i
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will tell you this, you know that it is very palpable that there is also in this environment, it is anti-ecumenism, that is reluctance to admit that someone for you can be and has the right to exist, it is also present for the russian world. in general, how much is it possible to brush off all this, to get rid of this russian measure in the heads, i understand that it is necessary to start with education to a large extent and not with enlightenment , not with the education of the faithful, but with the education of the seminarians themselves, priests, as much as possible time passes, what resource is needed, that is, someone has to teach, it is already going on, it has been going on for a long time, there are just such people somewhere, you know, the traditions are very strong. these the old bad guys have taken root quite strongly , it is difficult to fight with them , but the beasts are also necessary, and it is not that, as we say, it is necessary to do it now, it is the same as in the conditions of war, it is necessary to save the historical heritage, because if its if you don't save it now, it won't be there tomorrow, so i understand
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that there is no need for money for something on the cobblestones, but there is, for example, something there for restoration that may disappear tomorrow if it is not restored today, and the same with that, if we will have more ak in mind and... including in the historical and religious terms, there will be trouble, we will continue to spin in that corn and, let's say, it will be like the chinese legend that the knight kills the dragon and becomes himself. so can we already talk about the transition to the new calendar as an accomplished fact in the sense that it was quite painless, because even a year ago people actually said, yes, yes, we should celebrate december 25, but more than half of those who said so in fact, they themselves celebrated just as successfully on january 6 and 7, well, some were so poor that they made two for 12 dishes times, there were stories like that too, this year the alternative... is less, so it is that those who are more difficult to solder, who are not yet ready, have until the 25th year, well, but globally, today
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is the eve of the holidays, tomorrow we celebrate christmas in ukraine, did the transition hurt or was it worth it, if we look again at such data, we can say statistical that in the orthodox church in ukraine there are about 120 parishes left on their calendar in ukraine, in the greek catholic church there is only one and it is newly created in the kharkiv region . well, there are circumstances, that's why it is like that, then it is possible to say that he passed almost painlessly in the greek catholic church, the orthodox church in ukraine is a little worse, but he also passed, because 120 is a small percentage, comparatively, i think to a large extent, and this is my own information that even when they arrived, not everyone approved of it, people there grumbled, priests grumbled, i read more than once that such justifications are not far off, here, but there is another point of difference that... that people were actually more ready than the leadership of the churches for such a decisive step as on me because they were afraid
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they were afraid, and last year there was such a vivid example of the same father ivan rebaruk, known to all of us . years of service, he has been a priest for so many years there , that is, he must know the mood of the people, and he was very surprised that it turned out that it was not the people who did not... everyone was in favor, he says, i did not hear from anyone against, yes? this is, in fact, the footage we are showing now, this is last year's celebration in kryvorivna at the parish, where father ivan rybaruk serves. last year , christmas was celebrated there on december 25, and then a simply fantastic number, 5,000 people, it seems, came from all over ukraine to kryvyi rih. kryvorivnia is a small village with a really small population, and those who came to the liturgy were not so much local as lviv, frankivsk, kyiv.
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this is in addition to the fact that it is a new style, but in this case i remember that the conversations before christmas, with different leaders at different times, from lubomir, huzar and so on, and all the time they told me, no, the church here is already ready, so people are not ready, but it turned out to be the opposite, yes, that is. means that there are some stereotyped thinking between church hierarchs and parishioners, i.e. some of them have a worse opinion than there really is, what, what, there is no intra-church sociology, dialogue, well, as far as i know, sociology is done from time to time , but qualitative sociology is very expensive, it is rare for the church to afford its own research, but what is most important in that situation is that once again we have to thank uncle volodya, ugh, who pushed this process very... well, because we remember that a few years ago, when it was talked about, how
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i laugh, that my father and i went every year before the new year, before christmas, to talk about the calendar, we said the same thing, that we must, must, must, here, then there was such an opinion that the orthodox spcu and the greek catholics should transfer together, they seemed to look at each other, no one took the first step, but they also told spets that as many people as possible should be transferred from the moscow patriarchate. and they will probably react negatively to the calendar, it turned out that almost all of them do now parishes, even those that come from moscow also pass without problems, but let's talk about what we call orthodoxy of the brain, how to treat it step by step, what i mean, if you even look at the most informed part of society , that is, journalists and editors , who are in principle always in the flow of news, from year to year we heard this nonsense from all the radio and television channels that here... now there will be a catholic christmas, then an orthodox one, and each of these dangerous intellectuals could google it and
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to see that the orthodox world, with the exception of a few, literally, countries, also celebrates it, and someone who is at least interested could google the history, that even in katsapland, i am not talking about the old ukraine, it was celebrated exactly when 24 the two calendars were of the same type, when twice, that is, they also had a julian calendar in secular church life, i will say... another thing is that in ukraine for several dozen years, almost a hundred or more than a hundred parishes of the moscow patriarchate serve according to the new calendar, but these are romanian parishes bukovyny, ugh, that's it. in this case , we are talking about the most informed, and now we are dealing with those people who continue to be carriers of idiocy, idiocy you remember, and for example, pray for the king, a strato-tolerian, like his emperor there, to place big boards for their money, for example,
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somewhere in the deep roads of the poltava region, i saw it with my own eyes, and it continued until the invasion itself, i don't know what to do now. this year has passed so quickly, but all the idiocy that the moscow priests planted, they were very easily picked up by the ukrainians believers, i think you know, let's put it this way, that i once observed that even far from always priests were behind it, politicians were behind it very often, yes, first of all, that for some of the politicians who have had business -interests in russia are connected, for them it was an attempt to enter this environment, that is , it was a long-known scheme that they had to invest here in... something related to the moscow patriarchate, in return they received some preferences, there were letters, i remember, 20 years ago such letters from time to time for some time it was published that you will give us cheaper oil there, and we will help you build a temple there, and those politicians, they speculated about it, and you know, i will tell you this, that really sometimes i go to our old news, look, i see it all as, for example , they voted there, someone else, who
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worked for whom, was once involved in the election process, saw even in the lviv region for whom, who how in the churches, what kind of campaigning was going on? but he will tell about that, and they continued, those people remained, they repainted nicely, they there were all of them, look, yes, novinsky , who drove these fighting orthodox grandmothers to all kinds of actions, ran away, yes, he, but his people are here, they are working, his people caught him, and you know, such an interesting story on telegram channels , they did a study, it was found that one of the leaders of such aggressive propaganda of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine is such an organization miriani, which until recently, in the 21st year, with the support, including to... to the office of the president, they did a lot and many things could, so its leader seems to have already left, but the wife of the leader of this organization, who is also involved in various propaganda, seems to be a musician herself, she has a business that has won several tens of millions in tenders this year, including now in odesa, and you know where they started, from some
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drobytskyi wow, it’s brilliant, it’s a year, east and west are together, yes... a few days ago , the results were fresh, we had two studies in parallel, one from kmis, the other from the razumkov center, the results are actually quite similar, 42% of ukrainians now identify themselves with pso, yes, and 6% declared that they belong to the uoc-mp, this is, well, in fact, twice, that is, in the 21st year , 13% declared this, now two years have passed, after the full-scale invasion of 6%, также. a lot, wait, wait, wait , everything is not so simple here, the survey was not conducted in the occupied territories, of course, but in principle, my personal opinion, to my mind, to my eye, it looks like six, i don’t believe it, i think that it is significantly and significantly more, what is your vision, i once worked briefly in one long ago
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company, which was also engaged in sociology, we did, among other things, a general ukrainian survey about the denomination itself. and then there was such a thing that at that time they showed a result in donetsk region that belongs more to the kyiv patriarchate than to the moscow patriarchate. there was an incorrectly formed question. for example, the question when you are asked whether you belong to the moscow patriarchate, and you stubbornly beat your chest and say no, because you do not want to belong to the moscow patriarchate, because you believe that its church, the uoc itself, that it is no longer the moscow patriarchate. and you say: "no, i don't belong to it, you say, i belong to the kyiv metropolis, the difference here is which kyiv metropolis, which church, plus the fact that the ocu also calls itself a document." uoc, yes, and some part of people still think that they are uoc, kyiv metropolis, yes , in a word, confusion , there is a little confusion, and here we still need to take into account, first of all, a lot of people left from the east of ukraine and from the south , yes, they moved, for example, here to western ukraine, yes, they moved for za border to europe, now several dozen parishes of the uocmp have been established in europe, and many saints
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, and many priests who were here, and in particular those who showed their loyalty. that is, in those cases, well, there are not so many of them, but if the parish moves, the priest firmly stands against it with some group there, and he loses the church, but he shows his loyalty, let’s say, he can be directed to a good bread parish to the west, well, these are statistics, sociology is one thing, but there is a literal presence, that is, today we had zaporizhzhia is on the ropes, and before that we were told that the same eyes are putinophiles, the uoc mp, you know. from this point of view, what should we do, they have taken root, they had two bases, one yes, well, it is already more or less returning to ukraine, i have the kochka
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lavra, but in ternopil they are sitting there like in a bastion, there even behind in soviet times , no one was able to expose them with a report, such things were done there, which even now have not been dreamed of, but they were not able to be exposed with a report, but one more thing is that even in their environment certain changes are taking place, in particular the same hafangels, especially after the shelling of this... cathedral , they say that it has changed significantly, no one transfers, especially there to the ocu, there are isolated cases in the region, however, it holds a strong region, i know this, because i have been there more than once, but for example, he changed his views somewhat, instead, in zaporizhzhia, the same luka, who was well to the bone, what is called a cotton wool, he is not even a cotton wool, he is an aggressive cotton wool, so there are a lot of priests around him, now again there was information about the priest's wife, who worked for the occupiers. they are nowhere shared, they still exist and they continue to work, there is such information that one of their main information channels will be closed, this is the union of orthodox journalists, but it
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is currently open, that is, there is a decision of the state national commission, but there is no reason to close it yet, and where the orthodox journalist pikhovshchik himself, it is unknown not to know, that is , i did not voice him, he was not the one who worked for nezach, who was engaged in such things, there are them, there are enough of them, there are some of them. of them, you know which telethon they are on, so there are those that were still around until recently worked in the right direction , that is, in fact they, their number may not be the same in percentage as it is mobilized, i would even say that once, if we talked earlier about the elections, that no electorate is so mobilized as the electorate of the moscow patriarchate , that is, as father said that it is necessary, it means that it is necessary, everything is not discussed, this is how it is done, and this was felt even in the 19th year at the elections to... the parliament at local elections in the lavra, this very pochaiv lavra, after the green party was in second place, and now more than once the representatives of the moscow patriarchate
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are so aggressively pro -moscow, they say, well, we, volodymyr oleksandrovich, we voted for you, why are you setting us up like that, but we see certain steps from the side authorities, that they are trying to eliminate them, to reduce them, but far from it, now even those on which there is a whole list of open cases. in fact, they are not even under arrest, but only under night arrest, all citizens should be under night arrest, because the curfew, so what kind of arrest is this, or, for example, their public activity, despite the fact that they should be silent, and now i even watched, all their propagandists are actively working, and precisely due to the fact that they work , even a small number of people can be aggressive and anti-state, even in lviv, where the transition of the community was carried out in such a way that the community ended up... behind the walls of the temple and as a result, who knows who is leading it now, in which direction they are directed , ugh, well , 30 seconds remain, and i'm short the question is how many communities have moved from
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the mp to the ocu this year and how many still remain in the bosom of that church, the absolute majority remains in the bosom, that is, somewhere in the range of a thousand communities have moved, and this is simple, even in some cases it was simply announced about the transition, there 700, 800, and the latter. in the past few months, the transitions have significantly decreased, and in fact, the process of reformatting the documents is underway, we may know a more accurate figure over time, so, in conclusion, we must say, so yes, according to the new style, we are caroling from december 24 to the 31st, and on the 31st you can already be generous, and on january 1 you can already sow, everything is very simple, with us was taras antoshevskyi, a religious scholar, historian, director of the religious information service of ukraine, we... with roman for a short time, for a few hours with you we say goodbye, but we will not leave you alone, our colleagues will continue the broadcast, a lot of interesting and important things have been prepared, and now we offer you to view
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the material, christmas, of course, a decorated house, delicious meals, the whole family at the table, this is actually one of the best christmases them traditions, and this year the orthodox church of ukraine switched to the new julian calendar, because of this the date of the celebration of the nativity of christ has shifted, celebrates... today, tomorrow, we celebrate december 25, not january 7, as we used to do before, but the traditions and the dinner with the first sunrise remain unchanged stars my colleagues from the white church calculated how much such a holiday would cost financially. let's watch together. christmas is one of the most important holidays for ukrainians. believers traditionally go to church, gather on the eve of christmas eve the whole family for a table housewives usually prepare 12 fasting dishes, and you can enjoy a piece of meat already in the morning. this year, many compatriots are planning to celebrate christmas
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on december 25 according to the new julian calendar, so they are buying food little by little, but there are also those who are used to january 7 . and raisins are bought for kuti, i will add some more to you, and you will celebrate on the 25th or the seventh, the 25th, you will celebrate the 25th of what, the seventh, i will be the seventh. at the head of the table, of course, kutia, if you cook it yourself from wheat, with nuts, poppy seeds and honey, it will cost almost 160 uah for a large plate for the whole family, as the sellers claim, the prices have risen this year, except for raisins, which are very scarce in ukraine now , i called the company yesterday, they don't let trucks through, and they don't deliver much, the price has increased, well, i'm trading at the old price, because i still have old goods, i can still sell like this
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, we'll see. there will be a new plant, there will already be a second price, there is a demand for dried fruits, unlike other ingredients in the corner - he emphasizes serhiy, but i assume that the main flow of people will be the day before the holiday, in general zero, not even there, girls, it happens that he will pay for the rent, there are such jobs now that it is better not to stand at all, in general, the holiday is poppy, cereals are bought to do, i used to sell poppy seeds in bags, now this is a bag, i don't know if i will sell it or not? traditionally , pickles and sauerkraut should be on the table, barrel cucumbers now cost uah 60, grandma's delicious cabbage is mostly sold for uah 30 per half-liter jar, among the obligatory dishes is lean borscht with beans, cabbage rolls and vinaigrette. prices for products have changed somewhat, a kilogram of beets
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costs nine. hryvnias, a head of white cabbage from 20 hryvnias, potatoes from 27 hryvnias per kilogram, price tags for carrots and onions are from 10 to 15 hryvnias, greens, parsley or dill - 20 hryvnias per bunch, but meat for the christmas and new year holidays it won't be cheap, if there was money, they would take everything, but there isn't , how much does it cost, for example, lard 140, 80, 120, 80 uah, rib 170, 160, shoulder blade, hay , butt 200 uah. housewives cook dumplings with with different fillings. for the dough, you will need flour, a kilogram of which costs 20 hryvnias on average. eggs - uah 60 per dozen. among the drinks, the main one is uzvar. fish dishes should also be on the festive table.
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there are a lot of ticklings on the market, and there is also a fathead. 50 hryvnias each and carp 100 hryvnias, and for carp they ask for 130 hryvnias per kilogram. in addition, for dinner, you can bake apples, donuts, make pancakes, potatoes or buckwheat or pea porridge. according to the economist lidia horoshkova. in ukraine , there will indeed be a slight increase in the price of products 8-12%. but such a trend is followed every year before the holidays. we should be with you, i think that it is balanced. 8-12% , on the one hand it is unpleasant, on the other hand, it indicates that we are preparing for the holidays, so this is a normal process, and the war does not prevent us from preparing for the holidays, but the increase in prices, unfortunately, a trend that is observed, but it fits into those inflationary expectations that were formed at the beginning of the movement to date. in general, the christmas table in 2023 will cost
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ukrainians 970 hryvnias calculated in institute of agrarian economy. lyubov gerashchenko, oleksandr kuga, espresso, bila tserkva. it's 10 o'clock on the clock, it's time to find out what is happening in ukraine and the world at this time, khrystyna parobiy is working in the studio. at night, the russians attacked the central part of kherson, a married couple died. another man was found dead under the rubble of the house. a 54-year-old man from khersonets was also injured and contused, he said.
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