speed it up, which concerns , for example, the issue of the shortage of ammunition, uh, i also try to monitor what is said, yes , volunteers who work quite so closely with the military, for example, there is such a volunteer serhiy sternenko, and he uh, when there somewhere wrote about a month ago that according to him the situation with the supply of ammunition is really difficult, he, as a person who helps the front with fpv drones, he says that fpv drones can partially cover ... the shortage of ammunition in certain areas, but they should be in the amount in which they have to be used as kamikaze drones, and he says, for example, about the figure that it is necessary to produce, purchase and supply 10,000 fp per day, is this a lifting task for the state? you know what i told my colleagues, i don't know, you will leave it, no, if i am fired after 100 days, i will be able to answer the society for sure.

and to say that we made the plan of the 24th year, and in this plan there is definitely a number for the entire nomenclature, including drones, rebs, rers, that is, for this part only, in the amount that is not even announced, and according to these needs, we are now starting to purchase them. b) to produce them and to work with partners so that they also send, as international technical assistance, so i am absolutely sure of the quantity, and that we will be able to either buy it, or produce it, or bring it as international technical assistance, and that was it the main work that i did not do publicly, and i never voiced it, but the number for sure... we can all voiced

the number voiced by both volunteers and management, we will be able to fulfill. we traveled with the team to the donetsk region in november. we met there with the k-2 unit, this is a battalion, it is commanded by the hero of ukraine kyrylo veres, and in particular they use various drones very effectively, and we asked them what their situation is with drones, and they, on the one hand, really appreciate the efforts of the state in order to increase the number. drones of various categories that are transferred , on the other hand, he says that, for example, 70% of their unit is provided with drones by volunteers, while, as he says, in russia, it all comes from the budget, let me explain, like ours culture can sometimes claim us if they are lucky volunteers, let's look at other questions.

and so we continued for some time, in the 24th year, after we developed a plan, we allocated, if i am not mistaken, 55 billion, this is like the first tranche, because in general these things should be handled by the ministry of defense, but i, as a minister did not stop the transfer of this money from the ministry of defense to the ministry of defense, said to continue, because we have to increase it several times more, because the ministry of defense is now working according to the plan that was approved, to speed up and increase the capacity purchase, production, apart from what we have already approved, as 55 billion. that is, there is hope that, for example, in such a division as k-2, this balance, volunteers of the state, will still change in favor of the state, this is how we started. there are a lot of transitional things

, a lot, and in this regard, our goal is to provide the maximum amount, and we even last time the management asked if you are making an announcement, so much was produced, and why there are questions on the osuvs, otuvs, and we looked at the logistics chick, found a solution together, the management set me... the glavkoma and the vice-prime minister for digital transformation a task to solve this issue, we found a solution, and it is already being shipped. this story, which the president mentioned at his press conference, is about 26,000 ukrainian-made drones that were in storage and could not reach the front. is this what you are talking about? yes, we solved this issue, yes, he really gave me tasks. to the commander-in-chief and minister

fedorov to find a solution as possible, why keep and so on, we looked there, it was done on purpose. but we decided and now they are sent directly to the brigades, and what does it mean deliberately? that is , as i said, when the manufacturer brings it to some point, for example, let's say, this point, he looks at it in complexes and says: we have 100 complexes there, say, so we paid there, for example, we produced 100, 200, thousands there, how can you only have 200, that is, we are like... i say, we decomposed it, looked at it, unified it, the logistics are now being shipped directly to those places where there is a need, that is, in osuvy, in otuvy, in brigades. some figures on the account of ukrainian production, weapons and

ammunition, still sound in the public space, we heard, for example, from the minister of strategic industries, mr. kamyshchyn, that already in december ukraine produces more than... 50,000 fpv drones, and i here i was interested in the moment, how much of these 50,000 has the government purchased now, well, to be clear, in the 24th year, in general , the ministry of defense should deal with the purchase of everything, but for the 24th year, this money was translated in dszzi, which is subordinate to the ministry of digital transformation, this year we hope to transfer this commitment to the ministry of defense, but in order not to stop, since we are working for a common goal,

and dszzi made orders, contracted directly, did it with manufacturers, and the producers have started to work in recent months very huge. tampa, because the transfer of this money, the receipt of this money, the use of this money has been the last months, as you know, and in this regard, we are continuing this now, the first quarter, but i have already set the task to our colleagues, who have this in mind, to find funds in order to increase it several times, that is, we can say that out of 50 thousand ukrainian-made drones , the state... will buy, perhaps even 50 00, there are financial opportunities , well, there is an opportunity for the state to buy thousands of drones from the ukrainian manufacturer, and they have already started to do so, most of them were bought by the state, now , as i said, the money was

transferred only recently and we are already starting to work, that is , there are, for example, 200 plus types of drones there there are... several hundred manufacturers, and until now most of these manufacturers have not worked in such a number, and we have started to test it, now we get, sometimes we look at the policy, how to do it, we look at how to doctrinally solve the issue of application, why, because each a drone has either a tactical level, we are working on an operational, tactical... level and an operational-strategic level, that is, there are drones that are like fpv, there are bombers, there are naval drones, that is, hundreds of them, and we are looking at where to apply it more effective and how to apply, how to use, how, how

train people, operators so that they use it effectively, that is, we take a comprehensive approach. but i can say for sure that this is a question of drones, rebs, rerams, which was problematic, we have already started to solve it, and we will scale it up, both quantitatively and qualitatively, it will be solved, the president announced a million fpv drones for the 24th year, and you yourself say that drone manufacturers, for example, in the amount of 50 00 fpv per month, they faced certain ... challenges, how to ensure this qualitative and quantitative leap to reach a million fividrons next year? i think that the fact that we, for example, have reduced a very huge bureaucracy, should continue, why?

because the new equipment that is put into service must be put into service quickly in times of war, and we work with the ministry of digital, we work with... together with the team of the ministry of defense, the general staff, in order to speed up these bureaucratic things, and i can definitely say, that we will exceed this figure quantitatively. you recently celebrated 100 days as minister of defense, and this is of course an opportunity to talk about the results, partly about them and talked, but i'm still curious, in what condition did you get this ministry after your predecessor, what challenges might you have faced when you came to this position? in order not to go to individuals, i can say as an institution, that is, it is not that... such a depressurized institution, whose

work was often done by other ministries, that is, drones , the ministry of statistics, logistics, the ministry of infrastructure, procurement, all people, including volunteers, my task, after i leave my position, to leave the system, to fix the processes, and to have... one strategically responsible department , it should not be a procurement agency, under no circumstances, this is also a russian narrative, it is a strategic institution that makes strategic planning together with all components, and in this component the ministry of defense is the armed forces of ukraine, the main intelligence department is located , the state service of special transport is located. and this ministry in time of war should coordinate security and defense forces,

you came and started to change this procurement structure, against the background of scandals related to which was followed by your predecessor, oleksiy ryeznikov, the state operator of the rear agency was recently presented, as i understand it, this is such a key structure in this system, which should change itself. will be for purchases of everything that is not related to weapons, but if the question remains, to what extent was it really possible to remove this risk that purchases for the military will be abused? there are a lot of questions, and a lot of problems, we're squeezing all these people out of the old practices, and you're going to hear a lot of things that we're doing, you're going to hear... a lot of accusations are directed at us because we are squeezing these people, but the main thing is that you

remember, we separated, we created a procurement policy department and said that the need or the ability, that is, from the mentality, the worldview of the needs, we must to the worldview of the ability to transition , to make a procurement policy, to launch... separate agencies for lethal procurement, that is , the armament of military equipment and non-lethal, which we have now launched, there is a transition period there, and in this transition period there will always be questions about how it happens, or with change personnel, or a change of managers , commanders, that is, what was left to me as a legacy, or when i received it, but... there are a lot of issues, and we change these issues in procurement, the main thing is that we are not afraid to take

responsibility, look to the nato standard, to involve our american, european partners to help us, and we want to open up if we receive international technical assistance and we see how it comes, from whom, we also proposed that we will be very open. to a certain contour so that they also look over our direct contacts, contracts concluded with the government, for how much and so on, and they helped us rebuild internal risk management, compliance and procedures, and in this regard we have already done a lot, it is not enough, it is not enough, but it is a requirement, a challenge too society that was. it is clear, unfortunately, procurement has been constantly politicized

, unfortunately, there are a lot of old practices that do not correspond to today, and they must change, that is, we have done a lot, but not enough, and the most risky thing is that the transition period is not over yet, and people , who were responsible for procurement under the previous minister, they for... now remained in the structure of the ministry of defense, we, except for one deputy, made such a rotation, as you saw, the deputy minister, the deputy minister, and the first deputy remained, responsible more for the military component, he is not responsible for purchases, therefore, in this regard , we have done the upper level reboot and now it is the responsibility of my new deputies to reboot the entire vertical, i.e. horizontally, we

have done the reboot, now the closest ones weeks their task or a month in... will be a reboot of these verticals and they have already started to do, i believe they are doing it slowly, it should be fast, clear, uncompromising, but understand because the risk management that they are showing, requires going very holistically, but i believe that we can do even more, you have the opportunity to be independent in personnel policy, don't you? such that, for example, someone from the president's office is recommended to you, i will say that according to the law, the supreme commander-in-chief approves the deputies and holo heads of departments, according to the law, but until now i have only received all the support from the president, who joins,

who helps, and i am very. that he finds time to help, that is , we complete all tasks, work every day, but even in changes and reforms, his demand is very clear, no compromise, the main kpi, which is good for ukraine, good for me too, nothing more he does not require, the last question so that we can return to him with you in a year. what are your plans for the 24th? that institution has been resermatized, a lot politicized, very unresponsive to some challenges, we must stop, we must be a single integrated system that works for results, we must have all the capabilities

to achieve our strategic goal of the borders of 91. for the 24th year, we will do everything, and we will achieve all the military goals we have set for ourselves. minister, thank you for this conversation. thank you for the interview. we start from kherson. the russian military shelled the city, in particular the railway station, where more than a hundred people were waiting for the evacuation train. about this said the head of kherson. as a result of the shelling, a police lieutenant who was helping to evacuate people from the station was killed, two policemen and two civilians received shrapnel wounds. natalya gumenyuk, head of the joint coordination press center of the defense forces of southern ukraine, is joining our broadcast. madam natalya, good evening, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, congratulations. ms. natalya,

what do you know about the shelling of kherson and... what do you personally associate with such an attack on civilians, an attack on civilians in front-line territories by the enemy is carried out constantly , so it is hardly appropriate to tie it to any specific event here, the enemy continues systemic terror and tries to exert maximum pressure by all means available to him, having no real success on the line of battle , trying to... exert pressure on civilians, inflict maximum maximum damage of the front-line region, including impressive objects of critical infrastructure, in particular the railway station - this is also an object of transport infrastructure that is very important for the residents of kherson oblast, because really provides connections with other territories

of ukraine. the fact that the enemy attacks the railway station is not the first time. the case, in particular, in kherson, including damage to the rolling stock of one of the trains, the evacuation of people who tried to leave, who were waiting for the arrival of the corresponding train, was already organized, so here in cooperation with the mykolaiv direction , the process is ensured, the very fact that the enemy is stepping up, says that they will look for similar... ways of pressure, and we also see the activity of tactical aviation, launches of guided aerial bombs have already been recorded , although the behavior of the planes , so to speak, is quite specific, they try to find another launch point and try to escape from there very quickly, by the way, after the landfall, after the downfall of the landfall, they

did not for some time dropped guided aerial bombs in the south, indeed, since december 22, when the planes were shot down, we did not observe the activity of tactical aviation, we talked about the fact that the enemy. will study the tactics of new actions for himself and is obviously starting them now trial, and what kind of tactics is this? what changed they are trying to find other launch sites for their planes where they can fly in, trying not to get hit, but since they already have such a sad experience, it is obvious that they will be very careful in these places. so in the future, hey, ms. natalya, we want to hear your comment on one more event: the armed forces of ukraine sank the russian amphibious assault ship

novocherkassk. the commander of the air force of the armed forces of ukraine, mykola oleschuk, announced this in his telegram channel. the ship is ukrainian tactical aircraft attacked at night with cruise missiles in the feodosii area. novocherkask was able to transport various types of armored vehicles, including tanks, as written on the defense express military portal. they add: novocherkask could transport shaheds. tell me, please, has there been, uh, any detailed information, what could have been on the lining and how, in your opinion, has the situation in the black sea changed in general after this event? it is obvious that the enemy is trying to convince us that everything is fine with the shaheds. because no delayed another drone attack, and air alert signals are still being sounded in many regions, including the southern

regions, where combat work is taking place against drones of the shachet type launched, again from the southern direction, and what was actually in the armor of a large airborne the ship has not been identified yet, i think that when... there is confirmed information, it will be released, but the fact remains , we are seeing some activity from the enemy ship group now, they are again they deployed it to five units, taking it out to sea, including one of the large landing ships, but it was brought to the base point, now there are four of them left, this is the usual patrolling and exposing the surface situation with missile carriers, the enemy is not taking any risks, so far they are holding them . base points, in addition, the weather is not yet very favorable, the storm has not subsided, there may still be an increase in the sea disturbance, now we can confirm that the enemy

is trying to make a good mine with a bad game, that is, by returning to combat duty ship grouping, to pretend that everything is in order, but here the question is whether we are ready, well, for their, for such... their attempt to show that everything is in order, well, let's say, to show that not everything is in them in the order that we have the resources for this, we have creative ideas, and there are opportunities and capacities for their implementation, but realizing that this work should be as effective as possible, of course they are not announced, they are carried out, and then reported , but the hope that the black sea... submarine fleet will expand is, of course, it has become, it i was very, very happy to hear such a phrase, mrs. natalya, thank you, natalya humanyuk,

head of the united coordination press center of the defense forces of southern ukraine. well , then we will analyze the situation on the fronts and , in particular, in the black sea, since they started talking about it, we invited denis popovovich, a military observer, the editor-in-chief of the apostrophe publication, to the conversation. mr. denys, we welcome you to the broadcast of marathon, we just talked about the impressions of the amphibious assault ship novocherkassk, and they reacted to it even in the west, in particular, the minister of defense velika britain's grand shep has said that russia has lost 20% of its black sea fleet in the last four months, i think he already counted novocherkassk, he wrote about... on his social network x: in your opinion, how does this latest event change the situation in the black sea? well, first of all, what is the

novocherkassk ship? a large active ship. to restore it at the moment, judging by the photos that we now have and have seen, in my opinion, there is no possibility, and therefore it is not a recoverable loss, since ships of this class are not being built in the russian federation, that is, as far as i can understand, this ship was built during the existence of the soviet soviet camp in poland on upper gdansk, now it is impossible to restore it and the russian federation will not build or receive such a ship of this class. that is, the first thing that should be noted is that the capabilities of the russian army, the black sea fleet of the russian federation to land something on the coast, something, and therefore, in fact, all plans, if they still exist , to land landings there in odesa or elsewhere, are now becoming more and more illusory, they are not actually done now, and with the destruction of this ship

they will actually be transformed. as they say on the dino, this is the first question, and the second question, this ship, it is used for logistics, that is , it was transporting something on board, some say that it is the shahed, there are other versions from the russians, they sound like they were there caliber missiles, aerial bombs were adjusted there, he even brought them there, which means to crimea, there are different versions about what he transported there, but it was built in, built in the logistics system russian federation, i'm sorry, we just have kherson on the line right now, there was a shelling of the zalezhny railway station, please stay with us, we'll get back to the conversation now, but we have to find out operational information about kherson. oleksandr telekonnikov, head of the press office of the kherson regional military administration , joins us. mr. oleksandr, what is known about the consequences of the shelling of the railway station in kherson so far? congratulations, well, i would like to say that as a result of massive attacks, almost the entire

coast of the kherson region was destroyed. currently known about 20 injured people, among them four , unfortunately, died, just one person died, this is a 28-year-old lieutenant from kirovohrad region, who died at the railway station, two more people, his colleagues were injured, and two more passengers and another person was nearby. scouts were wounded, but a message... from ukrzaliznytsia that all 140 passengers who were on their way to this train, he planned to leave kherson at 6:36 p.m., and at 6:30 p.m. the russians hit the railway station, as a result of such coordinated actions, it was possible without sacrificing passengers to lower to

shelter, and then... to bring him to mykolaiv with our efforts, together with ukrainian railways and our departments, we organized buses and sent people to mykolaiv, but that is, they are already in mykolaiv, there is still a gesture, yes , they are already in mykolaiv, everything is fine, but in mykilsk, two people died as a result of today's shelling, one person from tyazhyn, they hit chornobayivka very hard, again it is not known yet. weapons, four people were injured, one is in a critical condition, and one woman and three men were injured, both in kherson and in people of antoniivtsi, they were thrown from the bath in beryslav again , a man was injured by a traumatic amputation, it is very difficult today, today is a day, difficult, unfortunately, and the evening in the kherson region, mr. oleksandr, natali hommeniuk, just on our air said that they have resumed attacks by kabami, where were they recorded today? so we

also recorded, they were flying towards the coast of the kherson region, so far the guided air bombs, i will clarify, because i said briefly, yes, yes, yes, these are guided air bombs, and tomorrow it will be in ours, in our report we know where exactly, but so far there are no reports of destruction or casualties, mr. oleksandr, thank you for the information, oleksandr telokonnikov, head of the press office of the kherson regional military administration. well, mr. denys , we are in touch, let me remind you of denys popovych, military columnist, editor-in-chief of the apostrophe publication, look, in the south in the last few days, four su planes have been shot down, this night an amphibious assault ship was destroyed, nevertheless, here is the situation in kherson, such situations continue, has been restored.