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and there is a feeling, mr. oleksiy , that they want to transfer this issue to the military now, and no, well, we are adults, we understand what it is, well, it is not accepted, you see, in turn, everything we told, it is not accepted by a positive society , that's why you need to transfer the negativity onto someone, so that the negativity splashes out. not to the civil power , to the military power, well, to the military, to the army, let's put it this way, well, i can even understand that, well, mr. zaluzhnyi calmly, without any, without pathos, without any historical expressions, just, well, it's not us, this is how we can affect the restriction of certain rights of civilians, what are we here for, we, we are an army, we have to fight, how to call him like this or call him like that, we say, we need a certain number of people to provide our. .. the activity
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of war to ensure our actions with war, how do you do it , well, what are we going to do, well, he, he calmly said about it, that is, well, the fact that someone wants to shift the responsibility for mobilization from the navy to the military, well, i also once it can be understood, because it is a negative reaction of people, but so what well, mr. oleksiy, you are saying that if you ask the british, they will go fight for their country, or is this the effect that we see in warsaw queues abroad? passports, people who are trying to leave ukraine , who are trying to avoid mobilization, all this reaction, in principle, to this bill, is it not a consequence of the communication that took place at the beginning of the war, and moreover, it took place on the airwaves of a single marathon, that all this will be resolved in two or three weeks, according to some mythical zsu, in which we believe, and which was talked about non-stop and repeated, here they have.
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well, it was not necessary, well, this is wrong, at the beginning, when there was a shock, really a shock for all people, no one expected it, well, judging by the way she behaved, what was the situation, the information situation inside the country, well, not everyone, well, no everyone, far from everyone, expected that there would be such a full-scale war, remember, they said something had to be done, everyone went there and laughed hahaha, and what about putin attacking hahaha, i remember it very well, mini bulls they laughed so much, i said, listen to... do te-te-te, and that putin will attack hahaha, i heard it, i personally heard it, so when this invasion began, well, many people did not expect it, and then it was positive news, that is, not even such good news, maybe they are objective, they should be in the city so that people calm down a little, but you don't have to, you know, as they say , stop in time, you have to stop now, now they started saying that no, it's okay, the war will be long, what there were none there for two or three weeks, that is , they heard it, but for a year and a half, well, what... for less
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than a year, these sweet-voiced chants people were constantly blaring and it lulled people so much that they were sure that the army is fighting there now, they are doing well there, they have super weapons, they are now there with leopards, f-16s, rockets, bombs, we are running, we are killing everyone, or blah bahbah-bah, all of us won, hooray, it turned out that they didn't, and this situation was very well received by the people, well, let's put it this way, unexpected, and they don't want to accept it, there's also a law on mobilization that everyone have to serve and that's where what we 're seeing now started, i think it's going to get better, you you know, there is no need to dramatize here , this shock will pass a little, those people who want to escape, well, you know, well, according to statistics, 10-15% in the country, when a full-scale war is going on, go over to half the enemy, not in our country, in any country, these are statistics during the first and second world wars, during any major wars, well, a flow, a flow of problems... there are up to 10%
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of collaborators and traitors in each country, well, these are statistics, here it does not mean that it is a bad country, well they say that there are five or how many percent or 10% of the people there a little mentally ill in any country, this means that the country is mentally ill, well, these are certain statistics, these are certain nuances that we need to understand, so i am sure that everything will be fine in our country with mobilization, we just need to adjust the system so that so that, first of all... people understand that it will be a normal salary, that it will be certain social guarantees, and so on and so forth, that it is worthy, it is worthy to defend the motherland, for this there should be a lot of motivational videos, for this, there must be such and such opinions in society that, well, we cannot allow it i don't want to say it, but i wasn't born for war, a sniper hits me, this can't happen, this should not be encouraged, not accepted by society, and now, on the contrary, a large number of our citizens are on the side of people who are trying to evade , because a
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... he has, that is, this, this means that if there are failures in communication, it must be corrected, this does not mean that it is a disaster, well, listen to mr. lazuzhny, he calmly reacts to these things, yes, yes, there is certain shortcomings, we will correct them. do not panic, because it does not lead to some positive result, everything will be fine, don’t worry, only mr. zaluzhny should be responsible for correcting communication, or in principle it is not, mr. zaluzhny should not be responsible for correcting communication, civil authorities and you, journalists, should be responsible for correcting communication , who should present information in such a way that it is perceived positively by people and encourages people to take up arms, defend their homeland, that it is... it is also an honor, that it is, well, it is simply a military brotherhood there, there are a lot of friends there , there and this in the life of any person who takes up arms, defends his country, a very big goal, a goal, a historical goal appears, this is what we must tell you, mr. oleksiy,
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thank you, thank you, thank you, well we in fact, only intermediaries, i do not mean you personally, well, i mean yours, well, listen, we understand, also understand what you are talking about, and who else should join this communication, not only tell what we are already winning, we have to go on a break already, oleksiy hetman was with us, a military man expert, let's continue the topic of mobilization, mobilization of the new legislation, but now there is a short pause, usual affairs become unreal, heavy sums. not for my sore back, for back pain, try dolgit cream. long-acting cream relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility. with the cream dolgit, whatever you want, i will lift. dolgit - the only yellow cream for joint and back pain. wow, went for a walk, water. ordinary water
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well, dear friends, we return, we continue our conversation, volodymyr tsibulko, a political scientist, joins us, there is already, mr. volodymyr, we welcome you to our air, congratulations, christ is born, we praise him, sir volodymyr, we wanted to talk about valeriy zaluzhny's briefing and everything that started to happen after it... in the media space and on social networks, in particular, and what concerns valery zaluzhny, did you watch this briefing, what was your impression of it, in force out of professional necessity looked twice, like a drop of living water after zelensky's breeching, absolutely clear, confident. language is responsible, the most important thing is the readiness to take
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responsibility for every action, for every step, for every fighter. this is just very statesmanlike and a meaningful position, it is not constrained, so to speak, by the duty of er, electoral contests, it is guided by it, well it is... zaluzhny is guided by the principle of statesmanship, it is important for him that the army works, the state works, and this is very it is important, this is precisely the case that, in principle, very, i would say , made a part of the society nervous, and what later spread in social networks and the subsequent actions of the authorities, they, to be honest... absolutely resonate with the position of the military, and so it appears that the civil authorities
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wants to intimidate ukrainians, and the military wants to reassure ukrainians. this very briefing, where, in fact, general zaluzhny had to answer questions related to mobilization, did he act in the correct role for himself, why did he have to act in such a role, in your opinion? i think its forced so why? because the authorities felt that after this hysteria with the law on mobilization, er, such circumstances were being created that their plan was to impose more responsibility on the military and with their own hands, this is the first, second, er, that's how it looked, that this is a forced briefing, as the diligent general avoided. any kind of publicity, and here it seems to me that this briefing calmed
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the country, it gave the country some understanding that, well , in addition to the hysteria of politicians, there is a backbone in the state, there are responsible managers, and apparently there is a vision of the approaches for the next year, this is very important, because uh... well, let's say, the idea of mobilizing half a million looked almost like a joke about the fact that we have losses of half a million on the fronts, that is , how carelessly it was done when general zaluzhnyi explained the need for such a number of the military, and he spread it on the shelves systematically, then it became clear that, first of all, this is not evidence of huge losses on... on the contrary, it is the need to transfer the troops to a completely new technological level, and
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specialists are needed. nor is it about the fact that a certain number of people must be sent to the fronts immediately. it is about the fact that troops need to be replenished for the purpose of more frequent rotations of troops from the front line, er... but he directly spoke about this, that if we want to replace more often from the front line, so that people can rest, it means that we need a little more troops, and... denied that we need 400 or 5,000 there, said that he did not mention this number anywhere, nevertheless, even after this briefing, he still appeared the comment of finance minister marchenko, who , it seems to me, sarcastically turned to zaluzhny with a request to then find him money for the mobilization and maintenance of half a million more recruits, but how could you also
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comment on this moment, marchenko is such a ... comical creature, well, in the organs there is no executive power non-comic creatures, cases we remember when he was in charge of anti-corruption bodies and informed partners that the fight against corruption had reached the highest level since independence, which looked really strange, why, why is he not in charge of finances, he is in charge of corruption, strange indeed, now that he is being sarcastic. so to speak, this same plot turns to the development of zelenskyi’s statement at the press conference about the mobilization of half a million people, that it will cost the country half a trillion hryvnias, that is, it is some kind of scheme that the political the leadership pumps in order to create
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the illusion that ukrainians are poor, because the troops eat them. to be honest, i could not imagine greater savagery on the part of the executive power, it is their task to look for money, not the military, if the military will fight and look for money, then why do we need the executive power at all, as one of our familiar journalist colleagues said, that i have never seen such a thing, that the military did not want to take power, but the government tried with all its might to transfer the power to them, turning them into a junta, well, the topic of the junta is things it's like that, people really want effective government and they see the most effective system precisely in the military, that's why a lot of people say, let the hard worker be our father, let him, that is, people want simple and quick solutions, in fact, any arrogance will push us away from
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the european union and from nato for 20 years, so we need to be very careful about these. their wishes, because they can sometimes come true, and then in the kremlin applaud, by the way, one, if, i will say very briefly about what you know, once said a ukrainian prominent historian yaroslav hrytsak about the fact that in our country every president always continued to do what he did before he became president, that is, relatively speaking, yushchenko continued to be a banker to a certain extent, and the banking system was fantastic... it was, let's say yes, it was repaired and made during his presidency, this is actually his success, but there yanukovych continued to be a thief there and there, in terms of concepts, he tried to build a conceptual ukraine, kuchma was the director of the red soviet union and so on, well but zelensky, accordingly, he remains
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an actor, tries a little to switch to another genre, not so comic, let's say, and tries to play a role. cherchel in this case, but it seems good to me, said yevhen naystetyk, who wrote yesterday, it seems, or the day before yesterday, that we all want zelensky to make some kind of adult speech, that is, to address himself as adults , to the ukrainians, to tell ukraine something like: "i have nothing to offer, but blood, toil, tears and sweat." i have nothing to offer you but blood, sweat and tears, but he rightly says that sir winston churchill was a veteran of several wars by the time he made his famous speech in parliament, he was a prisoner from which he had escaped , he was the commander of the actual fleet that lost
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a huge huge battle with the big ones, during the first world war, ie. and they believed him, the question is that which was very well formulated, in fact, i think , pekar, valeriy formulated well, what is in the question of mobilization, and which ones are to be blown away now we have to work hard, the authorities need to answer two, two points that the military cannot answer, this is a question of correct management in all this. and on the other hand, it is a question of justice, so that this mobilization is perceived as fair, how to do it, mr. andriy, the fact is that many in ukraine for... the law on mobilization and the topic of mobilization perceived , perceived as a repressive mechanism, that is, it is not the need for the state to protect the country, and
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this was perceived as a repressive mechanism and as a mechanism for fighting competitors, economic, political, so when we mention the fact that a year ago zelensky was promoted as winston churchill, he... for six months no one has promoted this topic, not even mentioning it, they are afraid to offend, because winston churchill is well, let's say, an aristocrat at least until the 20th generation, i didn't see these aristocratic bloods in zelensky, but there is another point, at least he could learn to behave like, well, the president of the whole country, and not... some kind of favorite a caste of zelenskyi fans who do not need a political result for the country, they just are
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well, they are enjoying the fact that zelensky is still on the screen, that's all, there is a difference, that 's why, firstly, now there is information, well, people compare it with the russian laws on mobilization, and they find a lot in common there, secondly, the human rights commissioner talked about what novelties were introduced in violation of the constitution of ukraine, that is, when all of zelensky’s entourage and analysts are stupidly ripping off russian bills, then you start to mention putin’s idea that everything around russia should be managed according to russian rules, here a special investigation should be conducted as to why... through the cabinet of ministers, the ukrainians were handed a law that was torn from the russian law, well, lesya, you still had a question, i know, i think we won't
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have time to simply discuss it , because there is such a comprehensive topic, the name and surname of maryana bezu bezul, i don't know whether palodimir will react very briefly, because we have a minute left, but some kind of wave just flew over the hard-working man named maryana it is possible to be endless. react in the question, well, in the mode of answers yes or no, my answer is simple: maryana zaluzhnya, no, zaluzhnya, oh, maryana bezugla , forgive me, what, what did i say, this, this is what kind of virus should be filled with this bezuzna to fill the space, so that they blurt like that, well, there was something in her about the fact that no one wants her, and i myself am the signature, i first. said and hung up like a computer, do you think that this, that it was, this is how it affects the people of maryana bezul, people are hanging, but maybe we somehow smeared the destruction as a whole, no, no, no, stop, stop,
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mr. volodymyr, thank you, to you, volodymyr tsybulko, a political scientist was with us, dear friends, we're going to take a break now, we still have one more hour ahead of us, so we'll remember mariana a lot, and especially not her, but what she does there and everything that happens on her page, and actually happens after ... valery zaluzhny's briefing, so active and interesting, but about all this later, stay with us and i remind you, please note that here we only have 13, hryvnias collected, not in order, attention, incredible novelty from unpack tv, super warm and very comfortable boots alaska style, perfect fit, water repellent material and a feeling of warmth even in 30-degree frost, boots. alaska stay have a universal design and practical black color, so they will suit both men and women! sizes range from 36 to 46, so get two pairs at once, for you and your
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