financial and technical assistance, we simply cannot afford it, because this is what our partners give us, these are the means, and in order to achieve victory , we need forces and means, and the forces are our military personnel who must be mobilized, people who have to defend our country with weapons in their hands, then we need to think and make decisions about how to do it correctly, so that, well, the state has the right to use violence, it is the only one, the only one who has the right officially, that's why here it is... about i like it, i don't like it, it doesn't work out, that is, if a person says i don't i want, i don't like it, then i'm sorry, few people care whether you like it or not, it's a duty, there are other duties, for example, you have to cross the road on a green light, not a red one, but if you want to be red-handed, then you will receive certain certain certain punishments, here we can agree that it is not necessary to put this question in such limits, well, those who agree go, those who don't want to go... i'm not saying, i'm crossing everything out, yes, but

it doesn't work like that, but how should people be forced to do these actions, and in what way it can be not only knu, it can also be , for example, a higher salary, it can be certain social guarantees and so on and so on, that is, many mechanisms, and here we have to discuss all, well, journalists, experts, analysts, all people should discuss how to do it right, and not translate the conversation, legitimately very good, let's not mobilize anything at all, no, this is the first question, the first point. mobilization is needed, everything is full stop, and this is not discussed, there is no need to open any windows ortons here, everything is full stop, put an end, then let's discuss how to do it better, that's all, we will certainly discuss it more than once, thank you very much, oleksiy hetman, a military analyst, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, was on radio liberty. well, we continue the topic of mobilization, the head of the national police of ukraine, ivan vehivskyi opposed the idea of ​​giving policemen the right to self-determination. constantly

handing out summonses without the participation of the military, he said about this in an interview with ukrainian news. i will remind you, the new bill on mobilization provides for the expansion of the powers of local authorities and the national police as well. it is assumed that the national police will be involved in the distribution of subpoenas. we have a lot of our own functionality and we believe that everyone should do their job. we already pick up various moments. why? because the police is the largest law enforcement agency. that's why we substitute. shoulder to other law enforcement structures, if we do not do this, some important areas of work will simply fall away. on the one hand, we document hundreds of criminal offenses among representatives of the tcc and sp, where they receive undue benefit, and thus people do not go to serve. it turns out that we will document on the one hand, and issue subpoenas on the other. therefore, i believe that we have enough work, we already help as much as possible in terms of mobilization, we establish the places of stay. and

vahivsky also commented on calls to send policemen to the front. let me remind you that yulia tymoshenko, the leader of the motherland, made a similar proposal earlier. in particular, for according to vihivskyi, there are 120,000 people in the national staff. he believes that law enforcement agencies are already involved in the security and defense forces, and also take care of the home front. this is a verbatim quote. so, what can be the role of the national police in mobilization processes? we will talk further, ivan joins the broadcast. expert of the ukrainian future institute and former sbu employee. good day. good evening. greetings, greetings, good evening. thank you for inviting me. well , you see, the head of the national assembly says that he is against it that police officers have the right to issue summonses on their own. and why suddenly, why suddenly such a comment? it is supposed that everything had to be agreed, the government bill. and if it is governmental, then it should have agreed with the government, and in particular with the ministry of internal affairs, but the national police says: no.

the police will not issue summonses, wait, there are a lot of things happening here that are not coordinated, well, let's say, conceptually, even on the eve of the war, the bridges should have been mined and blown up, but they were not blown up and the cartridge factory should have been built for many, many things, it was not built during all the times of the russian invasion, that is, there are many such things, and i am really on the side of the national police here and i will explain why, this is not an attempt to somehow fence them... there or there protect, well, let's imagine, okay, many structural units in the staff of the national police, it was correctly stated that the maximum number is 119, this is for the 22nd year, it was established which units will deal with the distribution of summonses or will go to the front, patrol police, anti -narcotics department, internal security, criminal investigation, anti-cybercrime and the rest. and

the rest, the rest, who exactly? then it turns out that these units, if they go to the front, or are involved in the distribution of summonses, they will not perform the function of countering drug crime, search. stolen cars, illegal handling of weapons, cybercrimes, the question of who will then perform their function on the ground is a big, big question. no, i'm not, look, i'm not insisting that the policemen distribute now subpoenas, the question is, if such an idea appeared in the draft law, does anyone seriously consider this option? i think no, look, there were a lot of different draft laws, here i am from my experience of cooperation with the verkhovna rada, there were many, here on different... on the reform of the security service of ukraine, on completely different directions, such, you know, space norms, and you could never get to the beginning , who introduced it, but someone introduced it, somehow it appeared and it is not clear who is the father of this norm, who is the mother, what is the purpose, often such norms

are introduced so that later, okay, we we shoot, we have such negotiations, but we shoot this, and then we leave it, that is, it is such an effort to play to the maximum for... in order to get what is necessary for the finals, but once again we can return to the idea of ​​mobilizing representatives of the national the police, well, i quoted yulia tymoshenko with such proposals, it seems that she spoke , well, in principle, you can hear many comments on this topic, what they say, why not the police, they know how to shoot, they are prepared, after all, they are physically more ready for this, than there are, for example, people with the third group of disabilities.

no, it's part of the national police, patrol police, they patrol 24x7, yes , someone likes the job, doesn't like it, but they do their job, escorting cargo so that they cross the border, military cargo, so that they pass without traffic jams, quickly, safely , this is done by the national police, here are all the cargoes, this is the escorting of the delegation in order to ensure their safety, this is done by the national police, or rather, the patrol police, in addition to the patrols, there are operational units that are not running with a gun, with a machine gun, this is one more time, these are people who fight against drug crime, cybercrime, this is a criminal investigation, this is a search for stolen cars, internal security, various departments, the canine

service, there is okay, cord, there is an operationally, operationally sudden action corps , but this is the physical safety of the police officers, operatives who will be detained. drug criminals, they are also armed, can be automatic weapons, and they must be supported during such seizure operations, therefore, and the second most important thing, the head of the police said that our the employees are already at the front, the court is also fighting partially, the people of the unit are also fighting, if you want to use them at the front, then you need to determine who exactly, how he can be used at the front, just say, let 's cut it off. 2,000 and we will send it at the expense of whom and who will provide security in the field, if the level of drug crime and stolen cars suddenly jumps, who will deal with it, yulia tymoshenko will go with her faction to deal with this issue, no, she will continue to sit in

in kyiv, i don't know, we will have to ask her what she is ready to do, the last question, and after all, let's imagine that the verkhovna rada will not change this no... law, draft law for the time being, and everything they will still vote for the national police to be involved in the mobilization as well, i mean, the representatives of the national police handed out summonses, what are the risks here and what could it actually turn into? well, look, i understand what this is for, well, what can be the general idea, it is for the national police to confirm the powers of the representatives of the tsc, so that there is no disputes on the ground so that they leave together, i understand correctly. so that they are escorted, because when a representative of the national police is present, when a car with flashing beacons, it adds more authority, more influence, and then it is assumed that no one will resist, okay, then the question is, if okay, they do this, issue summonses , and

they are not engaged in their main activity, they are then okay, they are removed from the workplace, so they say, ivanov, petrov, sidorov, you are engaged in subpoenas, drop all your cases, everything you do, you deal with subpoenas, well... at the same time, other areas of work, they don't just sag, they just collapse, and then the question is, if there is a surge in crime, and who will the questions be addressed to, well, to the deputies, to julius tymoshenko or the national police, who will decide this, we must think several steps ahead. thank you very much, i think it makes sense to ask yulia tymoshenko about this again, what she meant. thank you very much, ivan stopak, expert of the future institute and former employee of the security service of ukraine. we talked about the prospect of involving the national police in mobilization processes. thank you. in march 2023 during during the visit of the president of the people's republic of china to moscow, vladimir putin told sydzipin that russia intends to fight in

ukraine for at least 5 years. this was reported by the japanese publication nikeei with reference to its own sources. with his statement, according to the interlocutors of the publication, putin tried to assure china that a protracted war is beneficial to russia, and that in the end moscow will emerge victorious from it. this remark was also a warning to xi not to change his pro-russian position. at least that's what the publication's sources believe. however, the leadership of china is unlikely to trust. putin's statement about the intention to wage war for 5 years, the article says. what this all means, we will now talk further, volodymyr ogryzko, head of the russian research center and minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, 2007-9 joins our broadcast . good evening. greetings, authorities, good health. and russia's long war against ukraine, is it now beneficial to china? well, you see, ma'am, i think that any information that we analyze, we need to do it three times verify. here, what often happens in our information sphere,

one source is taken and some conclusions are drawn from it, and the conclusions are already so strategic that simply no matter where, i think, it is not quite professional, we have to come to the point that look at all these publications more than calmly, check the sources of information, because well, one source can be one source, it can be specifically... a disinformation campaign in order to throw up this or that information, in order to start discussing and searching for it on her any answers there. in a word, this does not only apply to the japanese edition, it also applies to americans and europeans, so i would treat all these reports more than calmly, i would take them into account, but i would not draw any such far-reaching conclusions from them, why , because well... it is necessary to analyze not one newspaper article here, but a whole

block of questions, problems, and only after that this, that or some other information can be either a supplement or a certain denial of the main conclusions, so i think that putin's statements , relative there, five years is an absolute absurdity, because economically... russia will not last 5 years of such a war, this is already known to everyone, including those who are at the head of the economic bloc of the russian government, they are already ringing all the bells, they are already saying that we really can't last that long, russian economists who fled to the west and who have, well, at least the opportunity to say objective things, generally say that if what is happening continues. strengthening of us economic sanctions, the russian oil and gas complex will collapse already in the 24th

next year and those revenues that the same putin dreams of will be half as much as compared to this year, and so on and so forth, that is , i think we really need to look at the trend, but what about china, what are the current trends, well, look, a year has passed and the ukrainian authorities, well, at least that's how they communicated, they tried to do a lot to... in order to somehow sway china to the side of kyiv, and a special representative was invited, and a summit was held in jeddah, but it looks like this i don't know that china is not ready to condemn russia anyway as much as i am ready to support, but i am definitely not ready to condemn, and even i think that the meeting between xi and joe biden in san francisco did not really change this direction there, it was so popular, here one must always understand the realism of certain tasks, well, china cannot move. an ally in a critic of russia, well, well, well, not from any side, well, if

someone thinks that this is realistic, then he is just a dreamer who does not understand how it all works, well, china is an ideological ally, of russia, no matter what anyone says, their cooperation is based on one on a totalitarian basis, this is the leaven with which everything actually begins, well, why did someone decide that we can interrupt with something... the fact that china needs russia as a second, of course, smaller, dependent, well, such a partner that can be managed to certain measures, because economic dependence implies political dependence, and so on and so forth. well, what can we oppose to this, so that china suddenly changes its mind and says: no, you know, well , for us ukraine is much more important than russia, with which we are, so to speak, held by strategic interests, so i would not i did not over-exaggerate the topic, on the contrary, i would look for

opportunities to finance ukraine, which may not be narrowed. neither the usa, nor the european union, either there is not a full agreement, or with a delay and so on, do you see signs of a change in strategy, and there is still a hint of continuation, and in this connection, we must necessarily think about negotiations between ukraine and russia, well, i understand that the improvement of ukraine's position is meant to start negotiations with russia, that's absolutely correct, absolutely correct, but let's look at it again to this publication. not as a separate publication, but let's remember that there have been several such publications over the past few weeks, and why does this happen, but suddenly there is nothing, nothing, and then suddenly you have a dozen or a half of such publications, well, it doesn't happen like that , these are signs that this is a manipulative information drop, this

means that this is a special operation, this is what is called a military ... in ipso language, and this drop is, well, controlled, directed and conducted from one center, i think that we not even out of three, but once we can imagine what center we are talking about, is it moscow, why? because before that, and indeed we have already seen this and this is also confirmed, putin rejects the idea of ​​negotiations, and this is the information support of this idea, that's all. therefore , again, i think that we should really look at all these things systematically, analyze them systematically, and then we very quickly come to the same conclusions, this is a variant of russian speciation, albeit in the information sphere, that's all . and we cannot assume that in the powerful offices of washington or are they really telling brussels about it? no

, we can assume that the seagull useful idiots are also talking about it, which is very far from real... things and estimates, and if we are talking about the eu, well, the information that there will be help, it is no longer even discussed without relative to whether there is orban or not orban, one way or another they are talking about a minimum of 20, a maximum of 50 billion euros that will be allocated to ukraine, and in the near future, maybe even in january, well, february most likely, what as far as the usa is concerned, no matter what anyone says there... but it prevails the majority of republicans are adequate , there are those who perfectly understand what the loss of ukraine means, so there is a group absolutely, well, i don’t want to say undiplomatic words, let’s put it this way, there are few adequate republicans, trumpists who don’t care about everything, but this is just a scumbag and she will not be decisive, it can

influence some decisions, but it cannot dictate its conditions, so again, january... or rather, its second half will be the time when ukraine will receive 61 billion in aid, that is, in sum, it is already quite a serious matter, and if we add to this the fact that now the g7 is starting to really look for the possibility of not freezing, but confiscating russian sovereign assets, well, that means that the puzzle is being put together, and then the situation becomes completely different, and i think that this is how we should analyze this situation'. as of today, and do not think that individual publications in american or european or japanese or any other publications are the opinion of pro-government political bodies, these are the opinions of individual possible canned goods, these are the opinions of individual possible useful idiots, these are the opinions of possible

journalists who are not able to analyze systematically, but simply grab some individual fact from it. even inflate the whole state policy, i am like that, at least, i understand it like that, well, nevertheless, then, if that is so, then you have very optimistic forecasts for the next year, i would say so, thank you very much, thank you, volodymyr ogrysko, head of the russian research center, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, was on radio liberty in 2007-9, thank you, and that's it, ukrainians celebrated twice this year. negotiations on joining the european union began on christmas day, air defense forces for the first time shot down a kinzhal hypersonic missile over kyiv. the winter and spring of this year were remembered for the battle for bakhmut, which attracted attention. of the whole world, what was the year 2023 like for ukraine on the battlefield, in the rear and on the international arena? let's remember together in the next article. we do not

know for sure what the new 23rd year will bring us, but we are ready for anything. god give us strength, god give us strength, to be in peace, to be in peace.

for the land, for the people, this is not the 17th year. there is such a thing as mp to ukrainian orthodox church.

this is how this year was, including through the eyes of radio liberty journalists in the chat under this broadcast. you can write which event in 2023 was the most significant and important for you. i will put an end to this. svoboda live will be back on the air

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where, come on, chris, congratulations, i see three noticeable changes in russian propaganda that happened during the year 2023, the first, completely disappeared, disappeared from the fire

red lines, that's about... they talked, talked, talked, and suddenly they even forgot that such words were somewhere. second, russian propaganda has temporarily, i believe, moved away from some kind of, you know, nuclear blackmail. it's not that individual subjects, like salaviv and his company, didn't mention it, but the kind of general, as it used to be on the russian tv channel, when literally every day and everyone in everyone. on the air they talked about some there, we will conduct nuclear tests, where to shoot nuclear weapons missiles, but now it must be said that there is no such thing, but at the moment, well , the cries about a blow to the head on the ukrainian infrastructure have radically decreased, if literally the whole of the 22nd year and the beginning of the 23rd talked about it very much, now they somehow so less calls for mass destruction

of ukrainian cities. well, in principle , these are some of them, perhaps noticeable, perhaps demonstrative, perhaps.