then imagine how many, what a rain of these fakes, destructive messages are flying through telegram channels in particular, and what gives you optimism then? this story seems quite apocalyptic to me, give me a little optimism, as a society, which, let's be honest, is not very accustomed to critical thinking and critical perception of information, how will it survive in times of war? under such, under such a shower of fakes and hostile narratives? well, i think this problem has always been there, before every generation, even in the analog era, and my generation, which did not know all this, there was a tv with three channels and so on, we did not have alternative sources of information at all, but we did not become lost in any philosophical sense of the word, so i do not think that it will give something, it... of course, it will raise

some moods and so on, well, in addition, you need to understand that people who, let's say, do not do this, they do not influence anything, but what can they do influence, well, they can talk among themselves over a glass, for example, about their own, when i see now, when i see completely unconscious people, not idiots, yes, who are now calling to fight against mobilization, to unite in groups and go to strike there... here it must, here the law must work, this law must work, and here we must show determination, so what is this, well, it’s unacceptable , well, it’s elementary, here now the question is whether the country will survive, it’s not even about the state apparatus, we can hate the government, yes, we can hate our local authorities, there are some corrupt people, maybe well, it's not about them, because they're all people they are finite, they have some cadence, they will leave sooner or later, but here the question is:

more global, here the question is whether i will live in my native country, whether my children will live in my native country, that is, this is a more strategic perspective, you have to fight for it, but i understand, i’m just talking about the colossal threat, the threat of these social tensions, which in particular are created by such telegram channels, and this social tension is simply in a war situation, it can be murderous, so for all of us, that in one boat now there is. you see during the war during martial law, during these things, the question is very simple: we want, we are all liberals, that's right, in our hearts we are, well, we are liberal people, we respect each other's freedoms, there, well, everything, there culture there are different, different, our cultural diversity there and so on, there are some preferences, we are very people, we all really treat each other with respect, but we have to understand that there is a question when the country is in such a terrible ... terrible

situation, there is no there should be no hesitation, there is only either-or, and here it must be unanimity, and that is, to react very decisively to all this. how do you , as a person, express your dissatisfaction or criticism of the government in such a way, as, for example, you do not disagree with some actions, but you see corruption somewhere there, you also see how a person can manifest it in such a way, so that... .not not to kill your country so as not to shake the country. well, look, as a military serviceman, i do not deal with such things in principle, but the professor of naukma, oleksiy haran, very correctly said that we must demonstrate unity at all levels, do we want it or not? if we do not demonstrate unity, then there may be a very big crack, and it is my task as a citizen to prevent this crack. then this is my

ethical constitution, i don't blame or criticize anyone, i don't like a lot of things, just like everyone else, but i'm not going to criticize, for example, especially in the army , you can't do that, because the army, it's always being built on discipline, there must always be mutual respect between the commander and his staff, that is, there must be this, whether we like it or not, it must always be vertical, it must to be, because if it is destroyed, it will be anarchy, it will be chaos. and therefore it is the responsibility, it is the responsibility of all people, the second point is that we have to understand that also, i fully share the position of our colleague volodymyr yarmolenko, the president, that, for example, we are in a creative environment, in an intellectual environment, there in our community , we don't have the right to hate each other, but we shouldn't stoop to that, we may not like some positions. to dislike someone there, but to

openly hate him, well, we don't have the right, that's why that we are also destroying unity, this is my philosophy, i adhere to it , clearly... there are independent various experts and so on, they can afford more, yes, maybe this is their purpose to say something, in my case, i adhere to such a philosophy and in general sometimes, how would i explain it to you, i am currently writing a book about non-fiction war, so for me the voices of the military, especially from critical points, from the line there, from scratch there and so on, they are very important, because they show a completely different picture. well, i work here as a documentarian, but from a different perspective on the other hand, i understand that it can be played out by someone as a political situation, and here, too , you have to understand when you can harm the country, especially when you pick up a hostile opinion, you see, there is such a line

between constructive criticism and some kind of well , i understand that it's unrealistic to paint an objective reality. or to offer to everyone, but you just have to have this responsibility to yourself so that your criticism does not harm, that is, so that it does not flow somewhere into some kind of destruction and somewhere so that the situation did not change. i will also ask you about russian money, russian propaganda and russian special operations in the west, what they are planning for next year, what funds, maybe you know? so for that, and what will be the areas of work, maybe something new? well, what i know is that the numbers are already, i think, they are already a little outdated, they were the numbers for the 23rd year, but they had a budget for all of their informational active activities, that's how it is

in my opinion they allocated 1.5 billion us dollars for all this, that is, for the work of bots, to the work... of the editors on the whole - i think it is also all in the package completely they are on this process they are on informational positioning on telegram channels this is a separate article there was there in my opinion it was 20 million it is someone from experts mentioned this figure by the way , i think that they will increase this amount for 24 years because it is very important for them now, for example , to understand the usa, so for them the usa is a strategic story, because they understand that if they achieve something in the usa, then, accordingly, it will be easier for them in ukraine, since in our country the usa is the main, well, donor in fact, it takes up 42% of the aid there, so i

think that they will make all the big efforts, and in order for there to be this rollback, how to explain it, so that it is from, they will achieve the effect that, well... there would be a rollback in european countries, especially those that used to be very dependent on russia in terms of energy resources, so cheap when they bought gasoline there, something else, gas, so that there would be a rollback in these societies back to those better times in quotation marks, they say, everything was fine then, but you see, this is all war, well, they are very actively working with it, even in such countries as the czech republic, poland, slovakia, there were even those. our belt of neighbors, by the way, i am very, very pleased, i am impressed by the transformation of the german political system, for example, it seemed that germany was never unexpected, it is so wrong, the germans now really strategically understand that this will be

their main challenge, a geopolitical challenge, even for the post-war period , russia will remain in them now, the germans realized this very clearly, and it is also impressive. can happen yes, i have a feeling that we can for the old europe, or shall we say the old world, which is collapsing, because the whole world is equally collapsing, not only our world is collapsing, but their world is also collapsing, that good old world , can we become such a cause of destruction, such a toxic, stubborn people that does not allow... to return, does not allow to live in the old, familiar world that everyone is used to , that everyone liked, can russian narratives achieve this? i think, they will not achieve it, and now i will break my promise for the third time on this air and tell

a historical fact, how the spanish empire was multiplied by zero, you remember the netherlands, a rebellious little country. and the invincible armada, that is, what we are doing now in the black sea basin with the russian fleet, we are really destroying their invincible armada. and what such a small country of ours is doing to such a huge country like russia is what the guises did, the guise rebellion with the spanish, with the spanish armies, then these giant, it is such a parallel, but a historical one, but i really like it, that is , i actually think that we do not fully know the entire situation of the global processes taking place in russia, complex, well in... all the statistics are all classified, we we know this, social, economic, production, industrial,

but there are simply unprecedented changes taking place in russia, in the russian state, in the russian economy, in russia, in russian society, and i think that there may even be an effect of unexpectedness, that is , this colossus may clay at one point yes to shake, that we may not even expect this and already be in... such despair, such a terrible depression, here suddenly, well, i have such hopes, i remember rosenov, russia languished in three days, well, yes, it showed that the first mobilization, the mobilization of the first world war, showed that the russian, i mean the mobilization, that russia could not withstand this burden, the situation of 1850, the crimean war of 1856, it also showed the horror... russia's unwillingness, especially economically, to fight, then it

was then, it was, in fact, a high-precision weapon, the turks, the french, and the british fought against russia, which had not yet entered industrialization, but the crimean campaign was the defeat of a state that had not entered industrialization, but it was struggling with empires that were already in the prime of that primary industrialization, that is, now highly accurate eyes ... if we have them, if we have the will, then maybe we will solve these problems faster than they are solved now, how do you feel about this, look, we are used to trusting western media, especially as you asked is already an independent attribute, but also there are time and financial times and the new york times. and very often, very often , we take completely seriously, yes, some materials that

are not accurate, yes, that are not always objective, how do you feel about such a colossal influence further, these publications, in fact, more attention is transferred, it by the way, this applies not only to the media, it also applies to politics. forget,

addicted to their ideas, they are all addicted to their ideas, this moment must not and they are realists, and then they were realists, and now, but they are realists, who that all western media, if they have such a vision, for example, they see readiness, they see the process will develop. yes, their analysts say that everything will be very good, yes, yes, yes, they accordingly create this media vision and information, the situation will change, they will already write about it, this is not, this does not mean that they are doing it insincerely, you you understand, this does not mean that they are doing it with some kind of deception, although there are articles that are fueled by russia, as well as such publications, that is also there, but i just think that here the specificity is that they all come from... the current situation, the current situation is such that no one fully calculates russia, russia,

which i did not calculate before, russia yes, here i am looking, their military does not calculate that there will be more, that is, this too , this is an opponent whose logic of further actions cannot be calculated, but why, it is irrational in its own way, it is irrational in its basis, it is illogical, that is, it has some irrational logic of its own. what is the logic of some of their actions, but it is not amenable to our analysis, we did not calculate that kakhovska hes can be blown up, although the experts said there, well, they are hypothetical. what would happen if, for example , the kakhovskaya hpp were to be disrupted, what would be flooded there, what economic losses would there be, and so on, but no one seriously considered this as a scenario for the development of war, and the same story can to be with everything, the use of chemical weapons there by russia, yes, it is currently using them locally, somewhere there, in

separate areas of the front, well, there are such facts, whether it can resort to massive things before... sove application, it is unknown, it is also unknown what will happen with nuclear weapons, for example, well , it is really an irrational enemy, it can strike not necessarily even on ukrainian territory, the late prigozhin once said that it seems to me that they even they can go around somewhere and on their territory to accuse us, ukrainians, he had some kind of wit, there was a short interview with him on youtube, and that means he is an opponent. from whom you can expect anything, this moment must be taken into account, that is, here this moment of the description of various scenarios, it should be as large as possible, act according to the conditions of various scenarios, these things are very necessary, but this is such a big analytical work, i will ask you about one of the scenarios, because here i am the topic, this war is forever, so this

war is for a long time, this one of... according to the analysts of the counter-disinformation center, a protracted war, an eternal war is one of the narratives of russia, but at the same time there is a lot of reality in this, there are many arguments in favor of this, they say that ukrainian military, and i don't know to you, and to me, that this war is forever a terribly destructive, terribly destructive place. " how do you feel about it, because it seems to me that this is actually the message, go to a lifelong war, it just wears people out, yes, it demotivates, wears out, instead of mobilizing, how to work with this narrative, how to tell people the truth , but not to throw them into such an abyss

of despair, it's a very difficult challenge, it's really difficult, because people i..." i hear this complaint a lot from different people, and i won't say that these people are there on purpose they say, well, it’s really such a naked human emotion, a doctor can say it there , a doctor can say it there, anyone can say it, well, first of all, how do people look, my life is finite, so i’m 50 or 60 now years, i still have 10 or 15 or 20 years left there, well, each one is different. and many people want to leave, but here we have to do it then, well, it should be, first of all, to prepare some kind of state strategy on how to live in society in conditions of war, if it was with the light in some end, well, this one one moment, but the effect of development being, well, i

can't explain it now at work, that is, so that people have... an accessible element of development, that is, as individuals, that is, we mean the social sphere, career growth there and so on, in the conditions of war , it's just a new reality, we don't know when this war will end, well, let's be honest, we don't know when it will end , it can die down, it can die down, but tomorrow putin can announce, for example, that we won this war and everything will freeze, well for example, he will continue to carry out mobilizations, further... he will accumulate troops, missiles there and so on and so on, that is, this war can last a really long time with such waves, we do not know this, because we have an irrational opponent, but society it is necessary to prepare social programs, some others, so that people in conditions, well, in israel, rockets fly over israel constantly, but people are engaged in business,

receive quality education, raise children and so on and so on, that is, we have to... prepare , so that society lives in such economic conditions and that there would be some dividends so that people could realize themselves here. now it seems to me that it is necessary, well, it is necessary to talk with some economists , with such communities, who would develop such strategies so that society develops, that is , this human factor, so that it develops, not only war, not only mobilization, but so that mothers felt protected, so that they are implemented, so that there is business there and so on, so that some educational programs work, but it is possible and utopia, i do not know this, it it's hard for me to say. hey, here we are on the eve of the new year, many people say that there is no mood, there is no mood for the new year, everyone is waiting for the 24th year with horror, everyone says

that maybe it will be the hardest year in our history, and plus we we know that we are at such an emotional point, as you rightly said, that you have such a feeling of defeat, this is due to various objective reasons, as well as imposed, projected reasons. what do you think will allow society to get out of this emotional bottom, that is, what would have to happen, yes, how return to some state of more or less normality? er, look, the first world war, again i'm sorry, that it must be, i once studied at the history faculty and i am constantly drawn to history, we literally have 20 seconds, 20 seconds eh. here you have to understand very intelligently when the the critical limit when society can, god forbid , the french did not start something, the french

resisted in the first world war, because they spared their soldiers, they kept them in the trenches, that is, they carried out a reasonable mobilization, and their economy did not collapse , in france, in germany, a revolution began that destroyed everything... in russia, a revolution began that destroyed everything, the french saved as much as they could, saved people, and the enemy himself, in fact, crashed against their strategic defense, so perhaps this will be the key, we need to stand and wait for the moment when the resource-rich state of russia can simply get off the hook, and what it captured can return to us. in another unexpected way, like crimea and other occupied territories, maybe this is such a way, this is such a historical remark of mine, as the french did

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we are looking for 11-year-old georgy tarasyev from donetsk region. the boy disappeared in june 2023 in the volnovatsky district in the village of velyka novosilka. this area is very close to the line

front, but... during the occupation, the village where the boy lived was not there, so it is difficult to even guess where george could have gone. there has been no news about the boy for more than six months, and i really hope that with your help the child will be found. attention to the photo: george looks about 11 years old, he is thin and has light blond hair. if suddenly anyone has seen the boy or knows where he might be, call us immediately on the hotline. looking for magnolia children by short number 11630. calls from any of the ukrainian mobile operator free of charge, or write to the chatbot of the children's search service in telegram. any information is important. i also want to tell about the disappearance of 15-year-old valeria polizhai. the girl is also from donetsk region and also from voznesensky district. valeriya lived in the village of urozhayne,

which was freed from occupation. during the summer counteroffensive. it was in the summer of 2023 that it became known about the disappearance of the girl, but there is still no news about her. therefore, i am asking for your help. try to remember valeria's face if you suddenly see her somewhere similar girl, immediately call us on the hotline of the child tracing service at the short number 11630. calls from ukrainian mobile operators are free. i have told you only two stories of missing children. in total, since the beginning of the war, we have received more than 200 requests for help in tracing. fortunately, the vast majority of boys and girls have already been found, but the fate of many remains unknown, especially in the temporarily occupied territories, where the work of the police is practically paralyzed, from where it is impossible to leave and there are problems with communication.

in some places, people who cannot... from looking for their own children, do not even know what to do and where to turn. if you suddenly find yourself in a similar situation and have no idea how to act, call the short number 11630 or write to the chatbot of the children's search service in telegram. here you will be provided with all the necessary advice. in addition, everyone who sees me now can already help in the search for missing children. take just a minute of your time and go to the site. child tracing service magnolia. here you can view all the photos of the missing. perhaps you will recognize someone and eventually help find them. and now regarding the territories controlled by ukraine and a more or less peaceful life. unfortunately, children also disappear here. as the experience of the children's search service shows, the vast majority of them are teenagers who often just run away. we talked.